Reduce power of garage supplies

[TG159 734]

Double Armor, Repair Kit.

AKA cheating death. .-.

That sounds adventurous, adventerous is fun. I play Tanki for fun.

Don't make me point out the connection.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Right, devote your wallet and bank account, or simply your playstyle to the game, and you can have as much stale fun as you want. :3

[Kid95 67]

Funny how everyone here still refers to me as a drugger...

1. Funny thing is, maybe at ur rank not mine. I took a 1 week study and every drugger I encountered (over 30 drugs per hour) I took note if they had a certain level of skill, well past turning turret, my conclusion for the rank general was 17.3% do not turn their turret, and 23% did not have skill. Idk about ur rank, this is the conclusion I came too. Keep in mind a 1 month study would be way more accurate, I just don't have the time.

 

2. See #1. I say this is more for premium, as they get 50% so if they have been using it for a few months they CAN be noob for their rank. (Not crying)

 

3. Next study on this. Maybe. But druggers waste their crystals on drugs so I would think they have less for equipment. Different, however, story for buyers, what's a dark combo?

 

4. I'd say 35% yup, my rank maybe 30%.

 

5. Haters yes. Noobs no.

 

6. I don't understand, many druggers don't chat at my rank becuz if discrimination. When they do they defend themselves, with Grammer similar to mine I would say.

 

7. First part yah, usually when younger kids it's true. Older mature people tend to help the team out lots when drugging.dont judge what kind of person they are over Internet.

 

I'm allowed to use my voice :)

 

Just giving my POV, no need to argue against any of these, we both made our points and we can leave it at that. (But still, what's a dark combo O.O?)

I mean no disrespect in case it looks like I'm being rude (sorry but some people get way too sensitive these days), but here's my reply:

1. Even at our ranks, I still see guys with Twins and Firebird spraying their stuff without turning their turret. I'm 2 ranks lower than you TG159, and I've seen higher ranks do what I just mentioned. I'm not sure what kind of study you planned, but it was a fail.

2. Since you mentioned the word "more" I will MOSTLY agree with you on that.

3. I've seen a bunch of instances where 3 or 4 fully drugged tanks made their way into my base, and fewer instances where these noobs failed miserably (so satisfying to watch your team take them apart while you stick around as the final wall in case of a mistake)

4. I got no idea on this hehe

5. Haters yes. Noobs yes. Unskilled yes.

6. TG159 is almost completely right on this one, but have seen a few samples type some weird stuff like they were aliens trying to figure out our language.

7. It's also true that a majority of these kinds of druggers are either children, or lonely people without a life. The remaining start drugging when their enemies start messing around, but they keep a limit as to how much they drug. That's maturity.

 

DARK - DOUBLE ARMOR+REPAIR KIT. 

[TG159 734]

I mean no disrespect in case it looks like I'm being rude (sorry but some people get way too sensitive these days), but here's my reply:

1. Even at our ranks, I still see guys with Twins and Firebird spraying their stuff without turning their turret. I'm 2 ranks lower than you TG159, and I've seen higher ranks do what I just mentioned. I'm not sure what kind of study you planned, but it was a fail.

2. Since you mentioned the word "more" I will MOSTLY agree with you on that.

3. I've seen a bunch of instances where 3 or 4 fully drugged tanks made their way into my base, and fewer instances where these noobs failed miserably (so satisfying to watch your team take them apart while you stick around as the final wall in case of a mistake)

4. I got no idea on this hehe

5. Haters yes. Noobs yes. Unskilled yes.

6. TG159 is almost completely right on this one, but have seen a few samples type some weird stuff like they were aliens trying to figure out our language.

7. It's also true that a majority of these kinds of druggers are either children, or lonely people without a life. The remaining start drugging when their enemies start messing around, but they keep a limit as to how much they drug. That's maturity.

 

DARK - DOUBLE ARMOR+REPAIR KIT.

 

You have no say for 5 because ur on no supplies team xD

Operator said me and some other nug say ur haters and noobs. I agreed I consider u haters but disagreed with calling u noobs. (Never played with u guys so idk)

 

For 1. Try it yourself. Go into noise and most of the druggers are actually turning their turrets, just the ones that do not, stand out cuz they don't. And they are noob.

[TG159 734]

Right, devote your wallet and bank account, or simply your playstyle to the game, and you can have as much stale fun as you want. :3

Exactly

Better life

Or better Tanki life

XD

[The-Operator219 1,929]

I'd say "hater" is an appropriate term, but I prefer "non-lobotomized person".

[TG159 734]

And operator, for the druggers not using wasp+twins.

Ummm, u kinda made mistake with wasp.

Wasp users basically have to be druggers to cap against a Vulcan..

[The-Operator219 1,929]

I was just using that as an example of  a "noobish" combo. I don't think I've fought any of those past the rank of Warrant Officer.

[TG159 734]

I was just using that as an example of a "noobish" combo. I don't think I've fought any of those past the rank of Warrant Officer.

I have a friend rank marshal who is OP with that combo. Ya it's extremely rare but it's more for pros than wasp hammer.

 

Off topic - what's with the number 101?

Like, seriously.

101 funniest jokes book.

101 Dalmatians

Etc.

Etc.

Etcetera

Etcetera

Like wth

[The-Operator219 1,929]

In American university course numbering systems, the number 101 is often used for an introductory course at a beginner's level in a department's subject area. This common numbering system was designed to make transfer between colleges easier. In theory, any numbered course in one academic institution should bring a student to the same standard as a similarly numbered course at other institutions.[4]

 

Based on this usage, the term "101" has been extended to mean an introductory level of learning or a collection of introductory materials to a topic.

 

I don't know, maybe it's just an easy top-of-your-head number?

[TG159 734]

In American university course numbering systems, the number 101 is often used for an introductory course at a beginner's level in a department's subject area. This common numbering system was designed to make transfer between colleges easier. In theory, any numbered course in one academic institution should bring a student to the same standard as a similarly numbered course at other institutions.[4]

 

Based on this usage, the term "101" has been extended to mean an introductory level of learning or a collection of introductory materials to a topic.

 

I don't know, maybe it's just an easy top-of-your-head number?

Also it could be like more thnpan 100, just like 99cents is under 100(1 dollar) and often making people think it's cheaper than it is.

 

"Damn, that dog gave birth to over 100 dogs!"

C what I mean xD

[TG159 734]

Ok, one question.

Why do you guys directly relate druggers to their real life?

Drugging doesn't make them a bad person in real life...

[personia 4,036]

Personia:

 

Yo wrote this:

 

Pushing buttons is part of the game, and that ain't gonna change. Get over it. The thing is (as has been said infinite times before), drugs can be used skillfully. It is a skill to run up to an enemy with flame and at the last minute equip DD and destroy him. It is not skill to constantly run around with drugs on when there are two people in a Serpuhov battle, k?

 

I disagree, Building up your tank is a skill. Pushing buttons never is. Babies can push a button. Think you are missing the point. Druggers allways find excuses to justify their behaviour. But i never have heard a suitable excuse to justify drugging in any way.

Would you call pushing the quote button a skill?

 

Look, it is a skill, because it is the use of something at a specifically crucial time to make yourself stronger. As I said, people who run around on constant DD or DA with RK on the wait are nubs, no questions asked. But people who use drugs are not noobs. 

 

Also, building up your tank is no skill. At all. You do that as a drugger, so does that mean that druggers are skilled? It is not the building of the tank that makes a tanker skilled, but the use of that tank. A man is not a sniper just because he builds a rifle. Equally, a tanker is no pro just because they have pro equipment. Otherwise, what you're saying is that buyers are skilled. Case rested.

 

Finally, you have never heard a suitable excuse? You make it sound like one of the seven deadly sins! Drugging might be annoying, but that's as far as it can go. It is not wrong, nor is it bad, nor is it a sin, evil or bad for people. It is just annoying.

 

And with that point, I make my final case: It is your choice how annoying you find druggers. If you decide to quit because 'everybody in Tanki except for you is a drugger', then they have indeed beaten you, and you have indeed lost. If you play smart and play like AlphaNinjaGirl does (makes up smart ways to beat a drugger), then you win. And you will make it to gene and then you will be able to MU all your M3's to M4's and then buy all the paints, and then finally you can buy drugs and become the drugger that you have always longed to be. So it's all your choice really. Because the drugs aren't going away.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Replace "annoying" with "worthy of me bursting a blood vessel out of pure, unbridled rage" and you're spot on. :3

[The-Operator219 1,929]

And another thing: Much like XP/BP and normal battles, drugging is a playstyle. It shouldn't be considered "noobish" or "weak", instead it should be respected. No matter how many of it's participants have had "intimate relations" with Queen Gapulus. :3

However, it still doesn't excuse the fact that if you choose not to follow it, you're pretty much boned unless you're either really tolerant or willing to pay to MU your equipment. So it's a playstyle they force on us.

My personal feelings are that supplies should be used for small boosts, like powerups, and not all at once while leaving a trail of mines behind you. If they're used strategically, they can be a great asset and a great power, but if you look at the images we've seen of full tiaras and DARK combos, that's not the case. Since the devs haven't done a thing beyond making them only useable at certain times, but left them on the ground, there's still no way to avoid being crushed. Maybe it's a part of F2P in general, but I don't think it should be like this.

That's why I and the other people here think they should be further restricted or nerfed, so that it's better for everyone and it takes even more skill to actually use them effectively.

Just my thoughts on it, Gute Naught, have a nice life, and keep your barrels smokin'.

~The-Operator of the Galagan Hive

[Brubook 1,161]

Ok, one question.

Why do you guys directly relate druggers to their real life?

Drugging doesn't make them a bad person in real life...

Not correct.

Drugging is a kind of shortcut to a target. That is a state of mind, a driving "principle". Who takes shortcuts to get to a target in life, without having proper training and learning, without putting his/her effort on it, is not a good person. It is like cheating, even if in a "legal" form.

Druggers want/are used to have things easy, usually paying for that. Do you really think this is a good thing?

Drugging here is just weird, but the person behind that keyboard is the one that wants "everything and now". And that is bad, that is why societies regress. People pretend everything without doing or giving anything!

[Brubook 1,161]

Would you call pushing the quote button a skill?

 

Look, it is a skill, because it is the use of something at a specifically crucial time to make yourself stronger. As I said, people who run around on constant DD or DA with RK on the wait are nubs, no questions asked. But people who use drugs are not noobs. 

 

Also, building up your tank is no skill. At all. You do that as a drugger, so does that mean that druggers are skilled? It is not the building of the tank that makes a tanker skilled, but the use of that tank. A man is not a sniper just because he builds a rifle. Equally, a tanker is no pro just because they have pro equipment. Otherwise, what you're saying is that buyers are skilled. Case rested.

 

Finally, you have never heard a suitable excuse? You make it sound like one of the seven deadly sins! Drugging might be annoying, but that's as far as it can go. It is not wrong, nor is it bad, nor is it a sin, evil or bad for people. It is just annoying.

 

And with that point, I make my final case: It is your choice how annoying you find druggers. If you decide to quit because 'everybody in Tanki except for you is a drugger', then they have indeed beaten you, and you have indeed lost. If you play smart and play like AlphaNinjaGirl does (makes up smart ways to beat a drugger), then you win. And you will make it to gene and then you will be able to MU all your M3's to M4's and then buy all the paints, and then finally you can buy drugs and become the drugger that you have always longed to be. So it's all your choice really. Because the drugs aren't going away.

 

If people who use drugs are not noobs, why do they need twice power/resistance to win? It is exactly like racing with a MOTO3 vs a MOTOGP ... do you really think that the MOTOGP one needs particular skills to beat the MOTO3 one? Really?

 

Building your tank/combo requires more skills than drug. At least you have to think what is more suitable for your game style and what you think you can be better with. As, let's remember, you cannot have a full garage without buying ... if you aren't a 5mil XP gismo!

 

You consider drugs annoying. I think it is wrong and bad and even worse. But let's say "annoying". So you say that you like to be annoying to other people. Do you like that? Do you feel ok with it?

 

You can play as smart as you like, but if the drugger is not a real mult, you cannot beat 3-4 heavy druggers even with a team of 8. So the point is not being smart or skilled (apart that you should be at least 4 times more skilled than the drugger, you and your team mates), because there is no chance to win against an average player (in skills terms) that drugs constantly. Hence when drugging you win, so ... pay to buy your victory ... pay power!

 

Tanki claims to be a free-to-play game, not a free-to-loose and pay-to-win game!

[Brubook 1,161]

And operator, for the druggers not using wasp+twins.

Ummm, u kinda made mistake with wasp.

Wasp users basically have to be druggers to cap against a Vulcan..

 

If you have a wasp you chosen speed. Why you should have the speed of a twins and the resistance of a viking all in once?

 

Why Tanki set up a list of tanks with advantages and disadvantages? Why should you change all that system just pressing a button?

 

Why can't you buy a wasp with a resistance of a mammoth for example? Why can't you buy a waspoth?

 

Why can't firebird have infinite shooting? Why smoky hasn't the twins fire rate?

 

So ... why you should be able to change everything by pressing a drug?

[Opex-Rah 5,382]

waspoth

[FRITZECAT2014 33]

Is here any ideas suggested ????

I really hope you joke. This is written in bold and in color from the first page !

[Benefactor 6,888]

is here any ideas suggested? i mostly saw arguments

Suggest one.

[AlphaNinjaGirl 537]

Ok, one question.

Why do you guys directly relate druggers to their real life?

Drugging doesn't make them a bad person in real life...

Well most druggers (and note I said most, not all) tend to think they're better than your average "clean" player, simply based on their K/D, whatever equipment they have, how many drugs they've used, etc., when they haven't actually put forth any effort at getting better, they've simply used drugs. This is the behavioral pattern of a person who is lazy, cheap, and will use anything to stomp on his fellow man and raise himself up.

 

Personally I think that's kind of pricky.

 

(Also, just a side note, you've "liked" two posts where people say they're quitting the game due to drugs. To be brutally honest, I think you're an asswipe.)

 

Look, it is a skill, because it is the use of something at a specifically crucial time to make yourself stronger.

So, let me get this straight... in your book, using something at a crucial time to make yourself stronger is skill, aight?

 

Let's say there's some Twins/Viking who just drove by a wall without checking his blind spot, and I happen to be in that blind spot. Before he knows it, he's being toasted from behind by a non-drugged Firebird. Anyone with a brain would agree that this was a skilled ambush -- I waited in position, he didn't check his blind spot, and I took him down.

 

But if the Twins/Viking uses a DARK combo and blows me up, he negates my skill with his drugs. And according to you, that's skill on his part? That's not skill, it's bullcrap -- I deserved to win that exchange, and he (quite frankly) pussied out of the death he deserved and simultaneously attained a kill he didn't deserve.

 

Bottom line: Drugs replace skill. It doesn't matter how good you actually are at the game; drugs suck, and if you're a drugger you suck for using them.

 

diamond.dog has a 5.00+ K/D, so is he skilled?

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

diamond.dog has a 5.00+ K/D, so is he skilled?

Look how many supplies that slob has used for his rank...What the hell? Is this a dream?! Mind you, that's AFTER the achievements page was released...I think?

If you looked at my page...I don't even have 2000 of each supply used...But 4-5k? He must be splurging..

[Batmode_ON 60]

Ok, one question.

Why do you guys directly relate druggers to their real life?

Drugging doesn't make them a bad person in real life...

Its no different from someone who does not dryg but spends their whole time playing tanki, that makes them worse

[Benefactor 6,888]

Ok, one question.

Why do you guys directly relate druggers to their real life?

Drugging doesn't make them a bad person in real life...

It could be looked at this way: someone who uses every available resource legally to achieve their goal.