Reduce power of garage supplies

[TG159 734]

Just an update ... we have 4.600 comments and 70.000 views

Cut them in half if you like!

 

And I don't see any opposition to our arguments that make sense, not the other way round!

Views mean nothing bro.

Cut comments in half or even more then that's how many supporters u have.

[oOo_B.L.L.O.A.D_oOo 642]

Simple you dont want drugs? Play a Pro Battle without drugs XD

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Simple you dont want drugs? Play a Pro Battle without drugs XD

TL;DR.

[TG159 734]

Simple you dont want drugs? Play a Pro Battle without drugs XD

king

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

Simple you dont want drugs? Play a Pro Battle without drugs XD

How to play Tanki without drugs (Pro battles) :)

[racer22_online 206]

There is a problem with Pro Battles - in that the sheer number of combinations (999 flags, 999 mins. etc) and all between, mean finding an acceptable  battle is much harder.

If the Pro Pass was free - the majority of battles would be with Pro Pass and would be zero drugs and maybe have only air drops.

 

Part of the reason for this is over 50% of tankers prefer hornet or wasp and constant enemy use of DD is very hard on hornet and wasp.

 

The standard mode battle choices are well chosen - particularly the15 minute limit - making it much easier to leave for an appointment etc.

Hence,Tanki would need to constantly adjust the price of the pro pass to keep the number of pro pass battles at about 30% of the total in each rank.

I agree a price per rank is the best way to do this.

 

Most of us are not even anti-druggers - I like using a few mines (max 3 per 15 minutes) and to use health packs at gold box time.

 

Even in Pro mode it's not possible to choose to have drugs at a 'lower rate' say 10 per tanker per 15 minutes.

 

and I do think the losing side should be allowed to use more drugs than the leading side - because often the losing side has weaker players who need the extra help.

 

The problem we see in the game is that the winning side may use as much as twice as many drugs as the losing side - this is immoral and not a fair game.  For a game to be fun - it must NOT be biased in favour of the 'juvenile or adult minds' who would seek to abuse any sense of fair play.

 

Look what happens to druggers in the Olympics or any sport where 'doping performance enhancers' have been banned.  They are banned for a reason.

 

I do like to use a few supplies - say 10 per tank per 15 minutes - because it's interesting to see how each of us would make use of them. (Even Free to Play can afford this much).  At present a Mammy Vulcan Gismo M8 combo can use DD permanently - have you seen what this does to a Wasp or Hornet = rolls over and over (= no game). 

 

Lower supplies use and with equality per side means no-one need be called a drugger any more and we get a fairer game.   Surely Tanki now has enough money so they can afford to give us what we want?  If Tanki really is addicted to sales of supplies kits, please admit as much so we can move on and talk more about how Tanki can earn revenue in other ways just like the other games companies do (there should be no excuse to spoil a good game in name of profit) and stop teaching kids that drug addiction and greed are an acceptable business practice.

 

Tanki have effectively refused to show us how many drugs each tanker has used on the scoreboard in case this 'embarrasses' the buyers, (they should be named and shamed).

[TG159 734]

Good for you^

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

I've kind of stopped checking this topic now since it's mostly just TG arguing back and forth against other people, and it's just stupid. I just decided to spare myself the frustration and facepalming. I'm still going to check once in a while but not as often. By this point, druggers aren't going to change their attitudes and the devs aren't going to do anything about drugs so I guess I give up and I'm just going to cry in the corner in every normal battle.. Good luck guys~

[personia 4,036]

Last words on Supplies

 

 

 

 

Ever since I first saw someone squealing that I’m a “dirty drugger noob”, I’ve been fighting tooth and nail with the non-druggers about whether it is profitable or moral to mash the number buttons and use supplies. Mathematics and sob stories have been thrown around like hand grenades, feelings have been trampled upon, and hours have been wasted as two completely opposite worldviews, mine saying "work hard to be rewarded", and the other saying "give me what I'm entitled to", have tried to crush each other.

 

Looking back on it all with the eyes of a man whose priorities have just been straightened out, I can now see two very important facts that I missed in my quest to make the case for drugging:

 

1.) Non-druggers frequently attempt to guilt-trip people into not using the power-ups freely offered to them by parading a bunch of underpowered players around and crying that they don’t have a chance against the mythical Mammoth Vulcan bully. When that impossibly absurd spectacle fails to proselytize the masses, a more convincing argument is pulled out of the toolbox: the drugger’s shrinking crystal wallet. The argument states that a player will expend an amount of supplies in battle that is equal to a higher crystal value than what he will earn from the battlefund, i.e. he’s shooting himself in the foot.

 

While this may be true in a lot of cases, the person making this statement fails to notice the one fundamental error that I have subconsciously been aware of but never figured out how to express in words: the fact that victory over a battlefield full of opponents is more fun than getting a high battlefund. As I have said before, the most fun I have had playing Tanki was when I used a hundred repair kits, won a massive, nail-biting Deathmatch by a landslide, and gained a handful of crystals. On the flip side, I have on multiple occasions slogged through a horribly boring battle and gained ten thousand crystals.

 

In summary, the reason to play Tanki is not to get crystals. The reason to play is to have fun. Supplies enhance the good time I and the majority of the game’s players enjoy. “BUT STRATUS OR WHATEVER YOUR NAME REALLY IS, IT’S NOT FUN TO BE THE ONE GETTING HAMMERED BY DRUGGERS! CAN’T YOU THINK OF ANYONE BESIDES YOURSELF?!”

 

Yes I can, and I laugh when I do. “IT’S NOT FUN TO BE THE ONE GETTING HAMMERED BY DRUGGERS” can be boiled down to “it’s not fun to lose.”

 

Congratulations genius. Welcome to real life. Now quit bawling and go win something.

 

Okay, that was fact number one, and my, what a fact it was. Ready for number two?

 

2.) Even after I have made profoundly victorious cases such as the one above, there are, and always shall be, a cluster of tankers who will never let go of their little pet hatred. Depressing but true; some people just seem to enjoy living that way. And those are the people I want to address right now.

 

I used to think that all non-druggers wanted to do was completely banish supplies from the game. My little mental image of your kind depicted a frumpy old hermit who was so passionate about completely eliminating the word “supply” from all human languages that he tattooed “Down with the Drugs” across his forehead. That was an unfortunate misunderstanding on my part, which has been dispelled after taking the time to study your ideals further. Now I know the truth.

 

You are a frumpy old hermit who is so passionate about doing anything necessary to bring the average Tanki player down to your pit of frequent defeat that you create topics and flame endlessly with appeals to Tankionline to at least severely limit the public’s ability to use supplies.

 

While you have a right to make such appeals, I must warn you that you are, and never will, make any progress. Tanki’s spokespeople have repeatedly said that they’re done nerfing the drugs.

 

Know what that means? It means that, no matter what, you will forever be haunted by that little green wrench that flashes above your enemy’s tank just before he brutally annihilates you. I say this not to discourage you, but to encourage you to broaden your thinking, and maybe be more open to the idea that supplies aren’t the boogieman you swear them to be.

 

 

To be honest, soc3's points are pretty good.

 

 

Just an update ... we have 4.600 comments and 70.000 views

Cut them in half if you like!

 

And I don't see any opposition to our arguments that make sense, not the other way round!

 

Woo hoo! Party!

 

Well yes, but you're a biased opinion.

 

 

Also, I just want to say that since around about two pages ago, this whole topic has gone back down into the pits of pointless crying. Get outta the pit, people! Stop smelling those sweaty armpits and start washing them!

[HAPPSHOT 2,029]

WELL DONE MATE, TANKS LIKE US NEED TANKERS LIKE U!!!!

BATTLE SHOULD ONLY BE WON BY SKILL NOT DRUGS

[viratno2 146]

^^^^^^

Decrease font size please.

Hopefully developers are changing the economy in Tanki X. BTW, just a few requests: 

1) Stop giving PRO passes as solutions, it is basically a hackneyed phrase and is too expensive, period.

2) Now lets stop arguing and lets start contributing some ideas, we may get a few practical ones.

3) Maybe a second summary is needed, the topic has more ideas now.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

I've already stated my idea for limiting the use to one at a time, and making Mines unusable if you have any active.

Pre-composed counter arguments:

"this will ruin ctf u nub! >:c"

No it won't, it'll make better driving and skillful dodging a requirement.

 

"mines r teh only thing that lets me escape D:"

Sucks to be you, maybe if you had learned to drive or deflect shots...?

 

"Drugs are here to stay, every tanker can use them as much as they like. (Or whatever the copy-pasted mod reply is. .-.)"

See our sum-up, or actually read what we say. :3

[TG159 734]

I've already stated my idea for limiting the use to one at a time, and making Mines unusable if you have any active.

Pre-composed counter arguments:

"this will ruin ctf u nub! >:c"

No it won't, it'll make better driving and skillful dodging a requirement.

 

"mines r teh only thing that lets me escape D:"

Sucks to be you, maybe if you had learned to drive or deflect shots...?

 

"Drugs are here to stay, every tanker can use them as much as they like. (Or whatever the copy-pasted mod reply is. .-.)"

See our sum-up, or actually read what we say. :3

if there are more miens u ned more skill to dodge more mines.

DEV's wont nerf drugs, and certainly wont remove them.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

if there are more miens u ned more skill to dodge more mines.

DEV's wont nerf drugs, and certainly wont remove them.

"Drugs are here to stay, every tanker can use them as much as they like. (Or whatever the copy-pasted mod reply is. .-.)"

See our sum-up, or actually read what we say. :3

[TG159 734]

 

"Drugs are here to stay, every tanker can use them as much as they like. (Or whatever the copy-pasted mod reply is. .-.)"

See our sum-up, or actually read what we say. :3

 

DEV's wont nerf drugs, and certainly wont remove them.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Can we get someone to get rid of him? He's not contributing and we're not getting anywhere, he's just flaming.

[TG159 734]

Can we get someone to get rid of him? He's not contributing and we're not getting anywhere, he's just flaming.

I'm making a point, you can cry talk all u want here, nothing will be done.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Then what are you here for?

We're discussing and you're kicking a dead horse. .-.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

While TG is away, I'll go ahead and make a "TG flaming and using the same terrible counter-argument list".

"Stop crying"

Stop reinforcing the same principle that we're consistently going against.

 

"You guys are noobs! Every time I've stalked you in the bushes doing go-knows-what, I've seen the worst of you!"

One, stop stalking people... Two, we're noobs in the same sense an unarmed human is weak to a giant with an inflated ego and a tactical nuke launcher.

 

"Drugs are here to stay/ Yadda yadda yadda"

Look, Mod posterboy, if you actually READ our topic you might get somewhere.

 

"buy teh por bettla pass"

Just use the above counter-argument.

 

Should any of these be said, uttered, or implied by TG, feel free to copy-paste them where needed to show we can pull the same thing.

 

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[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

"buy teh por bettla pass"

This.

#Operator2k16

#Quoteoftheyear2k16

[The-Operator219 1,929]

I mean, honestly, he's said the same crap for a few pages now.

He's unwilling to give up and we're here to stay, so what's going to stop it? Divine intervention. He's going to be banned or the topic closed, either way a mod will intervene unless one side loses it's grip.

[bossman161 276]

Considered Saving supplies. Good idea?

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Considered Saving supplies. Good idea?

TL;DR, good idea?

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

Once I get M3 Isida, M3 FIrebird, and some paints, I'm gonna save up for drug kits so I can teach those nubs a lesson. Until then, I'm just going to cry in the corner of every non-pro battle I'm in.

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

Once I get M3 Isida, M3 FIrebird, and some paints, I'm gonna save up for drug kits so I can teach those nubs a lesson. Until then, I'm just going to cry in the corner of every non-pro battle I'm in.

That's pretty much all you can do..."out-drug" another drugger, lol. Then you have the guys that just press the wrong buttons...Like someone trying to use DP when attacking multiple tanks using DA. Not to mention when you activate either one; Repair is available. Although drugging in excess is wrong; there's a time, and way, to use them. Not every second of a match and as soon as you spawn...