Reduce power of garage supplies

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Could we have a pro battle setting, that reduces drugs to 30% of their power?

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

One way of curtailing some of it, is to have all members of Clans tagged. .  Only allow 2 members of a Clan in any one game.   Only allow 2 players from the same IP address play in any one game.  Together that would cut out much of the gang culture.  Its just a pity that communications have improved so much on this platform and that the friends system ever came out.  

The players Rusty has been moaning about are not a clan. They are a small group of friends. 4 or 5 at most play together at any one time but typically 2 or 3.

 

So you're asking tanki to get rid of clans and by extension friends and you dare to say "what a joke" in response to my carefully considered post. No wonder you guys have not got very far with this. All hot air and no substance.

I was referring to @ELIZABETH1122 's post.

And yes, Tanki can do something about Clan take-overs if they want to, as they

recently did with the update in which 2 or more tankers playing from the same IP

will be highlighted with a special color for the game’s moderators.

It won 't stop multing, but it 's a good update nevertheless.

 

Be assured, you could in "a two clan members per battle" still do your petty take-overs with

your other friends who are not in a Clan.

 

And I 'm not asking to get rid off Clans at all, you are simply making that up.

quote: "my carefully considered post" :D

Tanki without Clans is no Tanki.

 

Lastly don 't think I got much illussions about Tanki changing the game to

more balance and fairplay.

I do agree with you on one thing: it really feels good to blow some hot air!

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

The players Rusty has been moaning about are not a clan. They are a small group of friends. 4 or 5 at most play together at any one time but typically 2 or 3.

 

So you're asking tanki to get rid of clans and by extension friends and you dare to say "what a joke" in response to my carefully considered post. No wonder you guys have not got very far with this. All hot air and no substance.

The numbers of players participating in this sort of thing are way more that what you seem to be suggesting.  It is very organised, players that one is up against just disappear over a short period of time and are replaced by a maxed out drugged up group.  They go all at once and pester somewhere else.  This has been going on for quite some time  .  I was away for over a year and this sort of thing was happening then. They employ various tactics from planting mults to loading their side with supercharged  replacements.  A team that originally built up quite a respectable score over more than half the game see it disappear and be totally eclipsed within minutes.  One does not see this sort of thing in normal game play.

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

I was referring to @ELIZABETH1122 's post.

And yes, Tanki can do something about Clan take-overs if they want to, as they

recently did with the update in which 2 or more tankers playing from the same IP

will be highlighted with a special color for the game’s moderators.

It won 't stop multing, but it 's a good update nevertheless.

 

Be assured, you could in "a two clan members per battle" still do your petty take-overs with

your other friends who are not in a Clan.

 

And I 'm not asking to get rid off Clans at all, you are simply making that up.

quote: "my carefully considered post" :D

Tanki without Clans is no Tanki.

 

Lastly don 't think I got much illussions about Tanki changing the game to

more balance and fairplay.

I do agree with you on one thing: it really feels good to blow some hot air!

I only suggested two as a starting point, it could be one per side for instance.  It should not need marshaling by moderators is aught to be quite possible to program it in. 

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

Some do not see that speed boost is in the same league as what the rest of the drug cabinet holds.  In fact it is equally as as powerful.  Some combinations only have short range of fire.  For some closing the gap or increasing it is all important!  Just focusing on some drugs can be very divisive.  Nothing should be changed without a great deal of thought and experimentation.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

I agree with the nerfing of Repair Kits, they're the exact same level of annoyance as fighting a Gym leader and them using a super potion. Only this time you can't just continue blasting them with Psybeam.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Some do not see that speed boost is in the same league as what the rest of the drug cabinet holds.  In fact it is equally as as powerful.  Some combinations only have short range of fire.  For some closing the gap or increasing it is all important!  Just focusing on some drugs can be very divisive.  Nothing should be changed without a great deal of thought and experimentation.

Not a lot of us consider them "supplies".

Or at least I don't, they're just a little boost like drugs in general should be.

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

Not a lot of us consider them "supplies".

Or at least I don't, they're just a little boost like drugs in general should be.

So, its established that we are addicts but what we are really taking about here, is the size of the fix!   :wub:  :ph34r:  :D

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

Some do not see that speed boost is in the same league as what the rest of the drug cabinet holds.  In fact it is equally as as powerful.  Some combinations only have short range of fire.  For some closing the gap or increasing it is all important!  Just focusing on some drugs can be very divisive.  Nothing should be changed without a great deal of thought and experimentation.

Depends on the combo, a Viking/Isida on speed is very powerful.

 

That 's why I don 't advocate against the 2345 supplies, would be happy with a nerf on them:

but I think supplies can add more depth to the game.

So I really don 't want to see them removed.

 

My beef is only with the repair kits. 

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Yes, DA and DD don't do a damn thing against a Vulcan if you can't get too me.

But Repairing is just cowardly. If you're THAT scared of dying, go back to War Thunder.

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

My beef is only with the repair kits. 

Ya know what...recently I reread how much the RK heals your tank and I was...baffled to be honest. My Mammy has the HP of a base M3 Mammoth (not to mention the rest of the M3 stats it has) and I'm like, "Wait...400 HP over a span of 2 seconds?" Tbh a Repair kit shouldn't restore the same amount of HP depending on the hull you pick...a heavy like Mammoth M3+ or Titan M3+, or M3+ Dictator even... I can PROBABLY understand the 200 HP a second, although the HP restoration should probably be cut in half and the amount of time it takes should be doubled or tripled. But the rest of the hulls in the game...200 HP restoration a second is absurd.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

So using the "arcade game" argument as to why nobody survives long...

Why the hell are THEY able to survive longer and completely dominate?

O: Is it because they're using BS?

No, clearly the game's balanced. The mods have to be right, no matter how much they're paid in supplies to keep quiet.

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

So using the "arcade game" argument as to why nobody survives long...

Why the hell are THEY able to survive longer and completely dominate?

O: Is it because they're using BS?

No, clearly the game's balanced. The mods have to be right, no matter how much they're paid in supplies to keep quiet.

And remind me again plz: which supply happens to be the most expensive?

Which doesn 't withhold the DARK combo 's from using them like candy though...

 

(btw. not all mods think that the game is balanced)

[Benefactor 6,888]

But Repairing is just cowardly. If you're THAT scared of dying, go back to War Thunder.

Or camping.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

150 crystals isn't expensive. .-.

I earn more than that in my typical battle, but the point is: If the game is marketed as an arcade-style game doesn't it make less sense for people to cheat death?

I have no idea what kind of arcade games are around now, but the ones I've played always punished players for messing up. Here they offer them complete revival. Because they put in another quarter.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Or camping.

True, but camping was one of the topics in the Vlog today.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

something wrong with using DA and RK?

No, please go out for your lobotomy now.

[TG159 734]

150 crystals isn't expensive. .-.

I earn more than that in my typical battle, but the point is: If the game is marketed as an arcade-style game doesn't it make less sense for people to cheat death?

I have no idea what kind of arcade games are around now, but the ones I've played always punished players for messing up. Here they offer them complete revival. Because they put in another quarter.

its not cheating death, its an arcade game.

ANYONE CAN USE IT SO ITS NOT UNFAIR.

[TG159 734]

No, please go out for your lobotomy now.

so then what r u crying about?

[TG159 734]

Or camping.

camping is an aspect in tanki. a team can do way better with 1 or 2 campers depending on team size. its not being cowardly.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

its not cheating death, its an arcade game.

ANYONE CAN USE IT SO ITS NOT UNFAIR.

 

 

so then what r u crying about?

Let me once again welcome you to our topic.

If you can't remember the answer to what you asked earlier, I recommend seeing a doctor.

[Benefactor 6,888]

150 crystals isn't expensive. .-.

I earn more than that in my typical battle, but the point is: If the game is marketed as an arcade-style game doesn't it make less sense for people to cheat death?

I have no idea what kind of arcade games are around now, but the ones I've played always punished players for messing up. Here they offer them complete revival. Because they put in another quarter.

Yeah, I have that old school mentality - three deaths and game over. Just recently I have been getting used to the idea of respawning after the third death. I used to have a D/L of 3.84 because I camped a LOT, now it has gone down to 3.15 in two months only because I have been playing more aggressive since then. Using drugs has actually began to bore me at the same time, unless I am running with the flag. Other than that, why would I?

 

I ran into a player (Twins-M1) in Polygon CP who kept DD'ing after every respawn. I asked why he kept doing that. He said "I have over 400 of them, what else am I going to do with them?" I just replied "ok". So I hunted him down, and either repaired or DD'd right in his face during the firefight. He stopped after I did that to him for about 3 or 4 times.

[Benefactor 6,888]

camping is an aspect in tanki. a team can do way better with 1 or 2 campers depending on team size. its not being cowardly.

Never said anything about being cowardly. Camping is a safe way to play. I used to play that way a lot. I still do sometimes when I just want to chill and chat.

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

150 crystals isn't expensive. .-.

Compared to the rest of the supplies, I hate buying RK the most. 150 is ******ed. I just can't do it sometimes.

[RustyNail 1,538]

So your solution is to take away the advantage of individual players in a team. You want an equal battlefield.  Tell me, why would people pay for this game then if there is never any advantage to be had?

 

How difficult would it be for tanki to develop an algorithm that ensures power balance across all games on all servers? Nobody would ever be allowed to join a battle due to ineligibility and they certainly wouldn't be able to play with similar strength friends unless everything balanced.

 

You've really not considered it properly have you? Up to now you've just moaned a lot and not provided any sensible or practical solutions. Propose one something fair and real and I'll support it but up to now the only one that came close was mine and there was little support from the people here for it when Hazel was riding roughshod over it. You may have liked the idea but there wasn't many coming to its defense. 

 

It's not a matter of black / white but of a wide range of grays... Speaking of how much advantage should a buyer have.

 

Several proposals have been made by us, without any respond from Alternativa. Including gradual weakness of supplies due to combined use, or increase of cooling period of supplies plus nerfing the repair kit, or removing the supplies kits and replacing them with facilities such as personalized profiles, cosmetics etc, that do not consist power in battlefield.

But you should know that already, so why are you implying that all we do is moaning without practicality?

 

Last but not least, it's not my job to get solutions really, it's the dev's job to do that. My job is to say "here there is a problem". I have already done more than I had to in regard to drugging issue.

 

 

p.s. I kinda wonder for your attitude, if I understand correctly. You say that you don't support this topic because "we"  didn't support your kick2 topic? Despite that I have visited and supported it and gave many likes to your postings (while you on the contrary did not show up here) without taking into consideration that it was an onesided support, I still support it because it seems fair to me. Even if we came to disagree on other things and even cancel the in-game friendship, I still would support something that would seem right to me.