Reduce power of garage supplies

[RustyNail 1,538]

And here's a real story that might give you a clue as to what I value in a player's attitude in battle:

 

 

 

On 2 December last year, the Basque athlete Ivan Fernandez Anaya participated in a cross-country race in Bourlanta in Navarre.

He was in second place, well away from the front Abel Mutai, who won the bronze medal in 3000 stipl meters at the London Olympics last summer.

But entering the final straight, the Basque athlete saw Kenyan runner - sure winner of the race - like losing a sense of space, and stop running 10 meters before the thread, thinking that he had already passed the line!

The Fernandez Anaya reached him and instead of him overtake and finish that first stopped on the spot and with various meanings directed the Mutai to the line and helped him finish first.

Immediately after, the Anaya, who is an athlete with a great future (already champion Spain to 5 km, in the category of young people) said:

"Even if someone tells me that winning this match would secure a position with the Spanish team in the European Championships, I will not do it. My action to help my buffled teammate was spontaneous, and my moral satisfaction from it is far greater than any medal. for me, especially with what is happening today in society, politics, etc., each one looks only his own interests, I think to care about your fellow man, has a particular value. "

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Here's a thought:

 

A lot of people want Repair Kit nerfed, and I totally understand why. The thing is a piece of extremely hard crap to fight against, as it not only recharges the user's health entirely, but also provides them with two seconds of invincibility. Paired with Double Armor and you get the infamous DARK combo, the bane of many a Firebird or Freeze's existence.

 

As it is right now, RK heals 200 hitpoints per second for two seconds, or 400 hit points, which is enough to max out pretty much any hull. In fact, you won't even have a maximum of 400 hitpoints unless you get a massive hull like Mammoth M3 or Titan M4. It's overkill for lighter hulls unless you can 1-shot them, but with a DARK combo that's practically impossble.

 

Here's my suggestion: Instead of healing 200 hitpoints per second, make the Repair Kit heal 100% of a tanker's health over the course of 2 seconds. This way, the people who use Repair Kit responsibly can still have full functionality, while people who spam DARK combos when bumping into anyone in an alleyway will find themselves slightly underpowered.

 

And of course, if you get damaged while using a Repair Kit, it won't heal that extra damage. If your maximum is 200 hitpoints, and you're at 150, using a Repair Kit will heal you 200 hitpoints, but if you take 50 points of damage while the Repair Kit is active, you'll be down to 150 again.

 

That's just a suggestion. I highly doubt Tanki will actually listen to me, since it's been shown that they don't listen to any actual people and instead listen to their bank accounts, but hey, it's nice to think about...

this wont effect anything

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

And here's a real story that might give you a clue as to what I value in a player's attitude in battle:

good story......

 

And?

Players like me dont do that? M4 full supplies and all? If a player beat me but lagged out and lost his score i would gladly give my return to him (crystals)

 

 

 

On 2 December last year, the Basque athlete Ivan Fernandez Anaya participated in a cross-country race in Bourlanta in Navarre.He was in second place, well away from the front Abel Mutai, who won the bronze medal in 3000 stipl meters at the London Olympics last summer.But entering the final straight, the Basque athlete saw Kenyan runner - sure winner of the race - like losing a sense of space, and stop running 10 meters before the thread, thinking that he had already passed the line!The Fernandez Anaya reached him and instead of him overtake and finish that first stopped on the spot and with various meanings directed the Mutai to the line and helped him finish first.Immediately after, the Anaya, who is an athlete with a great future (already champion Spain to 5 km, in the category of young people) said:"Even if someone tells me that winning this match would secure a position with the Spanish team in the European Championships, I will not do it. My action to help my buffled teammate was spontaneous, and my moral satisfaction from it is far greater than any medal. for me, especially with what is happening today in society, politics, etc., each one looks only his own interests, I think to care about your fellow man, has a particular value. "

[RustyNail 1,538]

 

And?

Players like me dont do that? M4 full supplies and all? If a player beat me but lagged out and lost his score i would gladly give my return to him (crystals)

 

 

That was not written for you. It was written in contradiction to some players' extreme focus in winning, despite all else..

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

p.s. I kinda wonder for your attitude, if I understand correctly. You say that you don't support this topic because "we"  didn't support your kick2 topic? Despite that I have visited and supported it and gave many likes to your postings (while you on the contrary did not show up here) without taking into consideration that it was an onesided support, I still support it because it seems fair to me. Even if we came to disagree on other things and even cancel the in-game friendship, I still would support something that would seem right to me.

I've not mentioned or referred to kick2 at all.

[RustyNail 1,538]

I've not mentioned or referred to kick2 at all.

Sorry then, my mistake. What were you referring to?

[TG159 734]

Apply the same logic to coccaine.

That's where u confuse people with brains.

Ya, anyone can use coccaine but it's bad for u, android it's unfair to the person using them xD.

 

 

I don't understand ur metaphor. Drugs in Tanki is nothing like coccaine.

 

It's more like anyone can drink water so it's not unfair if u choose not to.

 

 

Logic dead

[omrot 2,327]

That's where u confuse people with brains.

Ya, anyone can use coccaine but it's bad for u, android it's unfair to the person using them xD.

 

 

I don't understand ur metaphor. Drugs in Tanki is nothing like coccaine.

 

It's more like anyone can drink water so it's not unfair if u choose not to.

 

 

Logic dead

I would probably compare Tanki drugs to Adrenaline drug. Some athletes use it before a race which "overpowers" them. It's illegal but some do use it. 

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Sorry then, my mistake. What were you referring to?

Well in my first reply I linked to it.

 

 

You know I've tried to suggest ways in the past to try and get tanki devs to reduce the advantage druggers have over non-druggers

 

 

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

I would probably compare Tanki drugs to Adrenaline drug. Some athletes use it before a race which "overpowers" them. It's illegal but some do use it. 

I believe that most sports are contaminated with performance enhancing drugs.  Some are over the counter off the high street sort of thing.  Other types are very sophisticated produced by drug companies with masking.  The greater the outrage by some athletes makes me think that they may be involved..  Some sports are poorly policed.  Just look at Rugby.  Athletes adopt anything that will give them and edge, legal and illegal. Moral or other wise.  Their is so much at stake, with incredible wealth and fame on offer.  Without mentioning the particular national states,the country that is wagging its finger the most at its opponent, was one of the heaviest abusers of drugs over the years.  That country has never been sanctioned and is very self righteous

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[RustyNail 1,538]

Well in my first reply I linked to it.

 

 

But I did support that too... long ago.

 

 

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=275554&p=4872606

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

But I did support that too... long ago.

 

 

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=275554&p=4872606

 

Yes, and I already said you liked the idea. You're not reading properly.

 

 

 Propose one something fair and real and I'll support it but up to now the only one that came close was mine and there was little support from the people here for it when Hazel was riding roughshod over it. You may have liked the idea but there wasn't many coming to its defense.

 

What I said was, while Hazel was bashing it, not many came to the ideas defense.

[TG159 734]

I would probably compare Tanki drugs to Adrenaline drug. Some athletes use it before a race which "overpowers" them. It's illegal but some do use it.

 

But in this case it's legal

[omrot 2,327]

But in this case it's legal

But it isn't a moral thing to do, illegal nor legal. The athletes who use those are usually selfish people who have no concern towards others and will do anything to win. Sounds a lot like the drugging community of Tanki

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

What might be legal today might be the illegal tomorrow.  A very famous tennis and fashion star has found that out.  It will cost her dearly.  Instead of retiring super rich, she will retire only super rich  :o  :rolleyes:

[Dawn.of.Legend 1,432]

That " I drug = I win. I don't drug = I lose. " actually this is for me, like I don't only use drugs to win a battle but I actually use them to keep a nice constant D/L. :lol:

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

A Premium sign on a player is pretty much a warning for a heavy drugger because if someone buys a premium, he will usually buy tons of drugs too

Only in rare occassions this isn 't true. When you fight one you can assume he will play the RK card.

 

Premium paint is imo made for low to medium ranks. Especially in low ranks this paint beats everything.

In medium ranks it 's very good because you may lack a superb "one turret" protection, but the overall protection is worth it.

 

In highranks it 's usable, but I much rather have just one micro-upgraded around 150% paint against 3 or 4 specific turrets.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

That " I drug = I win. I don't drug = I lose. " actually this is for me, like I don't only use drugs to win a battle but I actually use them to keep a nice constant D/L. :lol:

yesterday i played serpuhov.i played it with drugs..... one game we dominated. One game was a 0-0 for the first 10 minutes and then i capped 3 flags in 4 minutes...

then i joined a game at its first minute and i committed to not drug---- i was hammer wasp alone vs mammoth thunder and a railgun hornet both drugging. The score was 0-0 then 1-1 then 2-2. Then other druggers joined my team and enemy team but i stayed drug less and my team won and i was leader.

i did not find it as though i had more skill. I just played like normal (m4 wasp and hammer helped + fully mued clay)

[Dawn.of.Legend 1,432]

yesterday i played serpuhov.i played it with drugs..... one game we dominated. One game was a 0-0 for the first 10 minutes and then i capped 3 flags in 4 minutes...

then i joined a game at its first minute and i committed to not drug---- i was hammer wasp alone vs mammoth thunder and a railgun hornet both drugging. The score was 0-0 then 1-1 then 2-2. Then other druggers joined my team and enemy team but i stayed drug less and my team won and i was leader.

i did not find it as though i had more skill. I just played like normal (m4 wasp and hammer helped + fully mued clay)

But your D/L wouldn't be that good. Besides you have Mued, so shush ._.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

I dont get premium because i have all the XTs i want, i dont need cry, i dont need xp, and the paints picasso clay and lumber fully mued is almost the equivalent of premium paint 50%

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

But your D/L wouldn't be that good. Besides you have Mued, so shush ._.

mu or not i am still a player. And most generallismos have mu and most players are generallismo.

My dl was the same as the railguns

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Psst i know how to use drops like a pro too so i was hardly ever without drops

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

yesterday i played serpuhov.i played it with drugs..... one game we dominated. One game was a 0-0 for the first 10 minutes and then i capped 3 flags in 4 minutes...

then i joined a game at its first minute and i committed to not drug---- i was hammer wasp alone vs mammoth thunder and a railgun hornet both drugging. The score was 0-0 then 1-1 then 2-2. Then other druggers joined my team and enemy team but i stayed drug less and my team won and i was leader.

i did not find it as though i had more skill. I just played like normal (m4 wasp and hammer helped + fully mued clay)

Hammer is one of those weapons that works fine even without DD.

And on top of that you had everything fully mued M4 and Clay with 50% against your first opponents Rail and Thunder.

 

Yesterday I had a Pro Battle in Kungur without supplies.

I started with Smoky and even though my opponent weren 't all using Smoky paints, it just wouldn 't work this time.

 

Many Hammers around who did very well and on my alt. Smok-Ti-Thun I also have a Hammer M4.

Don 't play it much, because I largely prefer Smoky: don 't like to be busy with Hammer 's "clip-strategy"

 

Though in this battle I changed to Hammer as well...easy-peasy...only changing into a more close-range style and that

Hammer M4 just went loose.

 

Smoky is not like that. You just need to many shots in that case to bring your enemies down.

Smoky really soars on DD. You decrease the number of shots dramatically, saving precious time.

Overkill only happens with crits, so you don 't waste too many damage on one opponent etc.

 

Weapons with a high DPS like Hammer simply work well without DD.

 

So I don 't think the case in your post is a good example that all battles can go well without supplies.

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

15 percent is better than nothing!

Eh, to be very honest with you Elizabeth...a 15% protection paint vs M3-4 is virtually 0%. Trust me (or not) when I say that. I'll give you an example of myself. I have Irbis, which is supposed to give me 16% protection against Ricochet. If I were to come up against an M3+ Ricochet (Let's not include if he/she is using DD), that protection is damn near negated. He's going to beat me just about every time. Unless I'm using a heavily armored hull (that's default in my situation); but even then, it still makes me back out of the gunfight.

 

I'll give you another example; Urban. It's supposed to give you 20% against Isida (I choose the Isida protection because the Ricochet and Firebird protection that Urban provides is useless and would seem like I'm cheating you to make examples out of them. 5% is garbage and really may as well not even be there). And you might THINK that this is some fairly good protection, but you'd be dead wrong, as I have been on several occasions. I butt heads with an M3+ Isida (Again we're not including the use of DD to keep this as fair as possible), it still melts me down to nothing.

 

Honestly I think the fact that the Premium paint is 15% and not eligible for Micro-Upgrades keeps it balanced in some way. For the upcoming novice tankers and so on. For ranks like Brigadier all the way up to Gen? There's no use for it whatsoever, regardless if it's just 15%. The fact that M4's deliver such immensely powerful blows, the paint can't handle the power. You need at least 30-50% to see an actual benefit to a paint.

 

This is all just from my experience and my own honest opinion. If you agree, whatever. If not, whatever. I really just choose to be in the middle of both sides. Cheers.

 

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

If your one on one, skill levels negated against a much stronger tank the unless the 15% take you over that threshold then 15% will not suffice.  Tanki is not always like that.  That 15% might enable just enough time to take hiding action and go on to take another kill.  Isida is a special tank and one can not equate direct comparison with an other Tank because of self healing properties.  I know because Isida is one of my turrets.