Reduce power of garage supplies

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

 

 

 

 

Replace "son" by Wasp or Hornet and we 're talking

[omrot 2,327]

I know that many of these guys can/could also put up a hell of a fight in a supplyless Pro Battle.

Then why don't they?

 

If they have enough skills to play drugless why do they keep matching my stereotype that most druggers are selfish, disrespectful, power-hungry tankers?

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Then why don't they?

 

If they have enough skills to play drugless why do they keep matching my stereotype that most druggers are selfish, disrespectful, power-hungry tankers?

this is where you are wrong. You think drugs are a disability. Why would a man degrade down to crutches if he can walk fine..... or even run and skip. However the real situation is a man who knows how to run and skip and enters himself into a bicyling race with his bought or gifted bicycle.... because it gives a different tecture to his life

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

And you for somereason cant afford or dont know how to ride a bicycle and complain because the other man is faster than you

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

Then why don't they? Simply because they have the free will of playing in either a PRO battle with no supplies, or a plain Pub match with supplies. Wouldn't matter really, M4's pack a punch; drugging or not. Personally I think limiting (and when I say limiting; I mean that's like ALL you're concerned about and that's all you do)  yourself down to a FORMATTED battle is ridiculously stupid anyhow; this is an argument I have against XP/BP players. Not to get off topic, but fact that you set rules and specified equipment to a battle just imprisons the person and blocks him/her from discovering themselves and their potential.

 

If they have enough skills to play drugless why do they keep matching my stereotype that most druggers are selfish, disrespectful, power-hungry tankers? They can 'match' your stereotype all day, but it doesn't prove much of anything about the player face-to-face. Just like if someone were to accuse me of being a seriously heavy drugger who treats everyone nasty. Do you converse with me? Do you play battles with me to really understand how I play? If the answer is no, you really can't pin anything on me.  And look I don't mean to be rude or anything, but you can't tell me that MOST druggers are 'selfish, disrespectful, power-hungry tankers'. Honestly you don't even have the experience to make this analogy. Someone like Brubook or Rusty; I can understand. They actually went through the ranks. You're still fresh. All you seem to be doing is following the crowd, which will lead you nowhere.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Who says they dont? Lots in this thread seem to think players who drug can only play drugging battles, Thats not the case. I play xp/bp regular

i wanted to remind my serpuhov battle where i didnt drug but others did yet i was first and i won just i didnt know if its common.

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

Then why don't they?

 

If they have enough skills to play drugless why do they keep matching my stereotype that most druggers are selfish, disrespectful, power-hungry tankers?

Most of them for a very good reason.

 

The same reason why I hardly fight in Pro Battles except XP/BP.

 

There aren 't many Pro battles, better word would be "rare" and the few ones that do exist are

mostly dominated by long-time Generalissimo 's with M4 equipment and the best

fully mued paints available.

 

So there you have it. I wish it would be different because I do enjoy the balanced

gameplay you can find in Pro battle Format XP/BP...that is if you don 't count in the mults, take-overs...

but though Rail is nice I much rather play with Smoky.

 

With Smoky/Hornet I have to face fully mued Smoky paints and the high DPS turrets

and heavier M4 combo 's that often rule in Pro Battles.

The numbers of hits I have to make in comparison to a Firebird M4, Hammer M4 etc. makes a good 

score virtually impossible. Especially with a low-armour hull.

 

Concluding: I rather play DD-Smoky/Hornet in the wide variety of Maps and battles that are

available in regular battles.

[omrot 2,327]

 

Then why don't they? Simply because they have the free will of playing in either a PRO battle with no supplies, or a plain Pub match with supplies. Wouldn't matter really, M4's pack a punch; drugging or not. Personally I think limiting (and when I say limiting; I mean that's like ALL you're concerned about and that's all you do)  yourself down to a FORMATTED battle is ridiculously stupid anyhow; this is an argument I have against XP/BP players. Not to get off topic, but fact that you set rules and specified equipment to a battle just imprisons the person and blocks him/her from discovering themselves and their potential.

 

If they have enough skills to play drugless why do they keep matching my stereotype that most druggers are selfish, disrespectful, power-hungry tankers? They can 'match' your stereotype all day, but it doesn't prove much of anything about the player face-to-face. Just like if someone were to accuse me of being a seriously heavy drugger who treats everyone nasty. Do you converse with me? Do you play battles with me to really understand how I play? If the answer is no, you really can't pin anything on me.  And look I don't mean to be rude or anything, but you can't tell me that MOST druggers are 'selfish, disrespectful, power-hungry tankers'. Honestly you don't even have the experience to make this analogy. Someone like Brubook or Rusty; I can understand. They actually went through the ranks. You're still fresh. All you seem to be doing is following the crowd, which will lead you nowhere.

 

I concluded this stereotype from personal experience. I do not know how it is in the higher ranks but most of the druggers I have seen are selfish, disrespectful and certainly power-hungry

[r_Event1 605]

Damn, this becomes topic made players hate others - without knowing them closer.  :mellow: 
But to be true - best druggers are those who can go from drug battles to xp/bp or non-format. 
About skill thing - i wouldnt say that druggers are non-skilled - they are smart and they are like any other format players, but trained in their specific thing.  :ph34r:

Arekelyen - go to Arab drugging clans, they are looking for other drugging clans and there you will meet real no-life drugging players. 

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

I concluded this stereotype from personal experience. I do not know how it is in the higher ranks but most of the druggers I have seen are selfish, disrespectful and certainly power-hungry

Made more sense for you to say that in the first place. :P

[deadmanrising 715]

I don't know how many hours - if ever - he does parkour, but having played with him I can tell you he's a typical drugger alright.

Also, just from my opponents' lists, I can tell you he's not even the tenth worst drugger in line. I ve' played against other, worse.

But one thing they all have in common, is they care only for their precious little self and no other. I guess too much addicted to FPS games... they fail to remember that all the other moving objects in the map are humans that share a game. I can't say I respect that attitude. -_-

I don't think many players take other players feeling into consideration in a game like tanki, i mean tanki is a type of war game, you don't really care if your opponents are getting tossed left or right as long as you get the thrill of victory, maybe a game like league of legends where you play fairly and not dirty

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

 

Arekelyen - go to Arab drugging clans, they are looking for other drugging clans and there you will meet real no-life drugging players.

where to find?

[LadyYuna 122]

I don't know if you're kidding, but you can find clans here in the Forum..

Or go to collect some experience on Ru 1, 2, 3. After that you can see the difference between you and a drugger :)

[r_Event1 605]

Arekelyen - go to Arab drugging clans, they are looking for other drugging clans and there you will meet real no-life drugging players.

where to find?

Do you know how to use clan section? Here then here or here and many are here  :ph34r:  :ph34r:

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

I don't know if you're kidding, but you can find clans here in the Forum..

Or go to collect some experience on Ru 1, 2, 3. After that you can see the difference between you and a drugger :)

ok... ill try both. This weekend ill do RU exclusivly

and in an hour ill be scrolling through clans

[r_Event1 605]

If you need any specific help for clans you are welcome to ask. I know about them much and can help you decide - help your understand which will take you. 

 

ok... ill try both. This weekend ill do RU exclusivly
and in an hour ill be scrolling through clans

[deadmanrising 715]

ok... ill try both. This weekend ill do RU exclusivly

and in an hour ill be scrolling through clans

Some of the battles in RU are not bad compared to those i've seen in EN

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

? ^

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

Sorry for the offtopic but first I'd like to thank you :) and second - contrary to the popular belief, my colleagues and me aren't here to ban, maim and torture anyone and everyone who disagree with us. This game is a hobby to us all and there is no reason for anyone to spoil the experience by abusing their powers. It's kinda... immature :)

Haha I'm sure there's a kind of "ban aura" you guys give off because of the stereotypes created by players that make them kind of scared to speak to mods and disagree with them. Clearly you are defying that stereotype and proving it to be false. Well done ;)

[racer22_online 206]

What I mean by silly arguments are personal attacks that do not seem to gain very much, other than  to vent hot air.

 

What I mean by fascist behaviour is the natural tendency in most of is to enjoy pulverising the opposition.

 

My 'grown up' test is to ask if you continue to drug when your team is winning or do you hold back to give the other side a sporting chance?

 

In fact we could list a whole lot of 'decent behaviours' that I would call 'chivalry' on the battlefield.  This is what makes us different from most robots and most animals.

 

For many of us sport is not just about winning - it's more about how we behave (most of us recognise 'fair play' when we see it.)

Win or lose I prefer a high stress, tooth and claw battle in preference to a one sided whitewash no matter which side I'm on.

 

The conclusion we reach all the time is that we should all get to choose which type of battle we like.

The simple split on this is what we see in Tanki eSports and what we see in HardStyle.

 

Pro Mode should give us this choice - but Tanki have failed to make it popular enough for us to use day to day.

If it was free over 80% of battles would be Pro Mode.  But Tanki would lose revenue from Sales of Supplies Kits so they will not do this.

 

Taking air drops away from the leading side (or the top 25% in DM) - would be easy to implement, force the leaders to work harder, and not hurt Supplies Kit sales.

 

In the meantime to try and get better balanced battles we have the 'Go Pro Club'.

and druggers should have the 'Druggers Haven'.

Ideally we would all be free to make use of either - but Tanki have shown no interest in helping us, hence, we have to DIY.

 

Once thing for sure, those of us who make it to Gismo in the current setup are one tough set of people.  Tanki takes no prisoners.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Really? I thought sport was about the game, not the outcome.

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

Really? I thought sport was about the game, not the outcome.

Apparently according to him there's no difference.

[viratno2 146]

OK then, after all the flaming, arguments, friendly mod appearance and the controversy on Brubrook, lets see what problems we are currently facing and what kind of point are we making on drugs:

 

1)Drugging has created a harsh environment for non buyers and also for small time buyers.

2) We encounter immature behavior and provocation by (not all) buyers and druggers.

3) The PRO pass is close to worthless for playing a non drugging match and a drug war  due to the sheer abundance of XP/BP, Parkour and  also  because many PRO battles are played by high ranks/ generalissimos, and thus low ranks most of the time can't play PRO battles. The cost of the PRO pass is too much for lower ranks.

4) We also encounter many group raids that swoop on the battle fund and fly away with it, leaving the petty remains for the losing team.

5) Individual heavy druggers violently change the tide of the match (not pointing any fingers in this whole para) 

6) Drugging, most of the time, is also combined with Premium Accounts and Kits, thus eradicating any chance a non drugger or a light drugger can have against a heavy drugger raid.

[TG159 734]

Really? I thought sport was about the game, not the outcome.

Agreed.

And drugging makes the game more fun for u xD

[TG159 734]

If Tanki gave us a vote and asked: Do you think the Repair Kit should be nerfed? (Say max 2 per 15 minutes.)

over 80% would say yes.

 

Racer, I don't like when people assume evidence.

Get Tanki to ask this question when u login without the ability to play without answering, then give us %.