Reduce power of garage supplies

[Mr.Ace 1,116]

What is the purpose of all this argument lets make it a clear cut

I being a non buyer , drug , why?

i started playing this game a long time ago , when i had a low rank i never noticed drugs drugs drugs as people didnt drug that much on lower rank if we buy 10 repair kits for 1500 at that rank they could buy a whole m0 turret or hull climbing stairs warrant officers drug but i don't think any one but those who are already experienced and are playing on alts which have WO rank BUY DRUGS they only use drugs they collect from missions or pickups or sometimes buy a low quantity when you reach rank major or above u now realize that drugs are unfair but you always have a PRO pass

i buy drugs to compete with buyers on winning side who have full time drugs on, you see many people saying "drugger noob" 'buyer" " stop drugging " and some even abuse well such arguments are taken as Crying just because you cant face someone who is stronger than you , you make such arguments well there is a wise saying that you should not run away from problems but face them " if u dont like drugs play PRO battle and just stop these things , you need to be strong and the best way is " skills n drugs " well i suggest dont collect a whole bunch of equipment just focus on a few turrets/hulls and micro-upgrade them and buy drugs. PRO battle pass costs only 5000 crystals and if u think thats expensive for low ranks , u dont see much druggers on low ranks too , less people play pro battles well go play in RU1 ,RU2 or RU3 you will find a lot of pro battles especially in RU1

[BSG-62 512]

What is the purpose of all this argument lets make it a clear cut

I being a non buyer , drug , why?

i started playing this game a long time ago , when i had a low rank i never noticed drugs drugs drugs as people didnt drug that much on lower rank if we buy 10 repair kits for 1500 at that rank they could buy a whole m0 turret or hull climbing stairs warrant officers drug but i don't think any one but those who are already experienced and are playing on alts which have WO rank BUY DRUGS they only use drugs they collect from missions or pickups or sometimes buy a low quantity when you reach rank major or above u now realize that drugs are unfair but you always have a PRO pass

i buy drugs to compete with buyers on winning side who have full time drugs on, you see many people saying "drugger noob" 'buyer" " stop drugging " and some even abuse well such arguments are taken as Crying just because you cant face someone who is stronger than you , you make such arguments well there is a wise saying that you should not run away from problems but face them " if u dont like drugs play PRO battle and just stop these things , you need to be strong and the best way is " skills n drugs " well i suggest dont collect a whole bunch of equipment just focus on a few turrets/hulls and micro-upgrade them and buy drugs. PRO battle pass costs only 5000 crystals and if u think thats expensive for low ranks , u dont see much druggers on low ranks too , less people play pro battles well go play in RU1 ,RU2 or RU3 you will find a lot of pro battles especially in RU1

Low ranks don't use drugs????? Dude, read my comments. Read AlphaNinja's comments. Read TheOperator219s.

 

Why do you think so many people around my level are quiting? I used to have quite a few friends around Warrant Officer and Lieutenant to Captain. You wanna know what happened? They all quit. Why? Simple. People are using drugs to point that a normal battle is one owned by drugs and where non-druggers are just cannon fodder. Non-druggers may as well just mult, we make no difference on the battlefield because of all the drugging. They are not just alts of others. 

 

Buy PRO battle pass? Goddammit, how many times have we said this? The majority of PRO battles are XP/BP or parkour or are 999 flags/kills and are undiverse in terms of maps and full battles are few and far between. 

 

Next point: 'Stop crying just because someone is stronger than you.' A cyclist is riding as fast as he/she can. Then someone uses some drugs (definitely not talking about anyone in particular) goes by and wins because they are using drugs.

Your tank is 460% stronger, factoring RK. You use that to your advantage, ok, fine. Take away that persons drugs. Fight without them. Are you still as strong? No. Maybe you're still strong but certainly not as strong. Maybe the opponent (non-drugger) is stronger. People are just basing their whole gameplay around drugs and that massive advantage. 

 

Face the problem? We are facing the problem. Right here. Right now. That is why this topic is here. 

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Low ranks don't use drugs????? Dude, read my comments. Read AlphaNinja's comments. Read TheOperator219s.

 

Why do you think so many people around my level are quiting? I used to have quite a few friends around Warrant Officer and Lieutenant to Captain. You wanna know what happened? They all quit. Why? Simple. People are using drugs to point that a normal battle is one owned by drugs and where non-druggers are just cannon fodder. Non-druggers may as well just mult, we make no difference on the battlefield because of all the drugging. They are not just alts of others. 

 

Buy PRO battle pass? Goddammit, how many times have we said this? The majority of PRO battles are XP/BP or parkour or are 999 flags/kills and are undiverse in terms of maps and full battles are few and far between. 

 

Next point: 'Stop crying just because someone is stronger than you.' A cyclist is riding as fast as he/she can. Then someone uses some drugs (definitely not talking about anyone in particular) goes by and wins because they are using drugs.

Your tank is 460% stronger, factoring RK. You use that to your advantage, ok, fine. Take away that persons drugs. Fight without them. Are you still as strong? No. Maybe you're still strong but certainly not as strong. Maybe the opponent (non-drugger) is stronger. People are just basing their whole gameplay around drugs and that massive advantage. 

 

Face the problem? We are facing the problem. Right here. Right now. That is why this topic is here. 

You do know that your excuse for not going pro is lousy. If "most tankers want drugless battles" then go create appealing pro battles.

i do not find many druggers your level who arnt alts....

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

Not all games that require pro passes are XP at all.  Create your own games.  Become more active in recruiting players to play pro games, deactivate drugs.  I do not use Railgun at all but have played games that require pro passes, that came by default with crystal purchase.  

 

I believe, that the most vociferous opponents against drugging, are from those that do no pay or want to pay hard cash.  Their are a few others that might pay, that either believe that it is unethical or something but mainly that hey have made the hard choice of acquiring equipment.  Others made a choice that drugs are more beneficial.  The only thing with drugging is that it is not permanent, it is very brief and expensive.  Equipment and MU buyers on the other hand have permanency in their superiority and object if someone might take them out or survive by not investing in capital equipment.

 

Some fortunate players, can invest in both drugs and equipment.  I guess that Tanki is very happy that their are those who choose to invest hard cash into their game and that every one else should also be happy as well.  That is because no investment would mean no Tanki.  I will repeat what I have said in an earlier post that I am not too concerned either way, to drug or not to drug but that is how I see this argument.

[deadmanrising 715]

If Tanki gave us a vote and asked: Do you think the Repair Kit should be nerfed? (Say max 2 per 15 minutes.)

over 80% would say yes.

 

Racer, I don't like when people assume evidence.

Get Tanki to ask this question when u login without the ability to play without answering, then give us %.

The repair kit was already nerfed, its also three times as more expensive than the other supplies, in the past before that update the repair kit lasted for well over 5 seconds

[omrot 2,327]

You do know that your excuse for not going pro is lousy. If "most tankers want drugless battles" then go create appealing pro battles.

i do not find many druggers your level who arnt alts....

At my rank I'd rather save my crystals for m2s instead of wasting them on a 5,000 crystal pass (this is a lot of money for us low rankers). Even if I did buy a pro pass, there are only 2 games and both are in Sandbox + they are always full. For your idea of the whole non-drugging community to create no-drugs battle, most non druggers aren't on the forum and don't even know there is a no-drugs community.

[deadmanrising 715]

Low ranks don't use drugs????? Dude, read my comments. Read AlphaNinja's comments. Read TheOperator219s.

 

Why do you think so many people around my level are quiting? I used to have quite a few friends around Warrant Officer and Lieutenant to Captain. You wanna know what happened? They all quit. Why? Simple. People are using drugs to point that a normal battle is one owned by drugs and where non-druggers are just cannon fodder. Non-druggers may as well just mult, we make no difference on the battlefield because of all the drugging. They are not just alts of others. 

 

Buy PRO battle pass? Goddammit, how many times have we said this? The majority of PRO battles are XP/BP or parkour or are 999 flags/kills and are undiverse in terms of maps and full battles are few and far between. 

 

Next point: 'Stop crying just because someone is stronger than you.' A cyclist is riding as fast as he/she can. Then someone uses some drugs (definitely not talking about anyone in particular) goes by and wins because they are using drugs.

Your tank is 460% stronger, factoring RK. You use that to your advantage, ok, fine. Take away that persons drugs. Fight without them. Are you still as strong? No. Maybe you're still strong but certainly not as strong. Maybe the opponent (non-drugger) is stronger. People are just basing their whole gameplay around drugs and that massive advantage. 

 

Face the problem? We are facing the problem. Right here. Right now. That is why this topic is here. 

Actually there aren't much new people joining the game at the moment, there are many lower rankers who are actually veterans, so there aren't many new players to challenge them, but i agree the amount of druggers now and the way the game environment is is much worse compared to a few years back, but im hoping it will all get fixed in unity

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

It is very true that a large proportion of lower ranks are veterans using other accounts.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

At my rank I'd rather save my crystals for m2s instead of wasting them on a 5,000 crystal pass (this is a lot of money for us low rankers). Even if I did buy a pro pass, there are only 2 games and both are in Sandbox + they are always full. For your idea of the whole non-drugging community to create no-drugs battle, most non druggers aren't on the forum and don't even know there is a no-drugs community.

so druggers find solutions inorder to play their style and none druggers complain instead of listening to advise.

my guy your rank doesnt need to drug and gets about 30- 50k per month.

[omrot 2,327]

but im hoping it will all get fixed in unity

Tanki has no reason to fix the problem in Tanki X. If anything, they'll only make it worse

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

Tanki has no reason to fix the problem in Tanki X. If anything, they'll only make it worse

It's most likely they'll make it "worse". I see successful business models in the world of Video Games. I'll just give you an example real quick: Activision and Call of Duty. In November of 2014, they had released a new game: Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare. And in this game there was a new feature called Supply Drops. (I provided a link if you'd like to read about them) You could either earn them in matches; or pay for them. And in these Supply Drops you had a CHANCE (Gambling basically, if you bought them. Earning them in matches is easy) earn Basic-Elite (or Legendary) items to customize your character, and Variants of the weapons already in the game. These variants had either increased/decreased stats of the original weapon already in the game. So if one gun did 15 Damage (not counting other stats), one of it's Variants would do 17 (and other increased/decreased stats). Just an example.

 

Anyway, these Supply Drops earned Activision LOADS of money; ticking the community off because of the outrageous prices for a considerably low number of Supply Drops (I mean really, are you going to pay 80 USD for 41 Supply Drops?!)...but Activision kept shoving stuff in through the developers of AW; causing some serious hate towards them, even though Activision is the one responsible for this nonsense.

 

Now we have Black Ops III that came out this past November; and at first all looked good. Until Activision pulled this Supply Drop trick on us again. They added Melee weapons to incite people to buy SD's (I mean come on man, I'd love to run around knocking people's lights out with a Wrench or Brass Knuckles, wouldn't you?), and to Activision it wasn't good enough. So they added in some very nice customization items for the characters...that still didn't do it for Activision. NOW they've added in MORE weapons, further giving the community a headache and blaming TreyArch (The devs of Black Ops III) and yet nobody sees that Activision is FORCING them to push this stuff out. And they don't even earn a DIME from all the money that's being raked in.

 

I swear to you, I've seen where people just drop HUNDREDS to get an awesome weapon or something else from an SD, and they don't get it. They drop more money. Nothing. And again. Still not what they want. And it keeps going. Let alone the fact there's so much STUFF in these SDs that the chance for you to get something cool is VERY low! (The wrench had 1% or less of a chance to drop, seriously?!)

 

The business model is the same here in Tanki. You have these expensive equipment/supply kits that incite some to spend money to get it. And as long as people continue to buy; the business model will remain, no matter how much you scream and cry. All they're seeing is dollar signs.

 

And that's really the sum of it. A business model that doesn't fail is going to continue going downhill for the players (That don't indulge the business model); uphill for those above the devs. Money = Power. Power changes everything.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

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i love tanki.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Hahaha.....

Skill less?!!! Do you call esport starseries ultimate most epic players skill less????? ADVOKATEE drugs!!!!!!

I think

[r_Event1 605]

Well i think this topic is going over and over again with same argues and protests...

[Le_Mans_Racer_FTW 10]

Hahaha.....

Skill less?!!! Do you call esport starseries ultimate most epic players skill less????? ADVOKATEE drugs!!!!!!

I think

Sorry, but exactly who are you replying to? 

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Sorry, but exactly who are you replying to?

 

the general players of low rank who say so

 

The gen

[omrot 2,327]

Hahaha.....

Skill less?!!! Do you call esport starseries ultimate most epic players skill less????? ADVOKATEE drugs!!!!!!

I think

Drugging (not including drug wars) takes no skill as your tank is basically 2 times better than everyone else, 4 times if you constantly use repairs and 8 times if you use a dark combo (Mammoth+Vulcan/Thunder)

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

Drugging (not including drug wars) takes no skill as your tank is basically 2 times better than everyone else, 4 times if you constantly use repairs and 8 times if you use a dark combo (Mammoth+Vulcan/Thunder)

Are you promoting Drugs?   :angry:  :huh:  :rolleyes:

[omrot 2,327]

Are you promoting Drugs?   :angry:  :huh:  :rolleyes:

I am just showing how drugging takes no skill and the reason why we created the statement 'drugger=noob'

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

I am just showing how drugging takes no skill and the reason why we created the statement 'drugger=noob'

and that suggests your so total complete knowledge of the world. Ill go tell the star series champions they mean s#i¥ to you

[Dragon-Judgement 1,529]

I am just showing how drugging takes no skill and the reason why we created the statement 'drugger=noob'

Should be an Analogy, since it's not necessarily proven that "Drugger = Noob". Lol. You wish to tell me that someone with 5+ years experience in this game; knows the turrets, paints and hulls like the back of his/her hand is a 'Noob' by the press of a few buttons? I mean really, I've seen a lot of absurd people/comments throughout this thread. But you? You're probably the cherry on top of the ice cream. No offense to you, but seriously, get yourself straightened out.

 

EDIT: I can understand if someone's been in this game for a few months; beasted their way up through the ranks with supplies and buying (Like a lot of clowns do), then you ask them about their knowledge in the game and they don't know scrap, then fine...call them what you wish.

 

 

 

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Good job

[omrot 2,327]

and that suggests your so total complete knowledge of the world. Ill go tell the star series champions they mean s#i¥ to you

What I'm saying is that in a drug battle (or a normal battle that turned into a drug war) it does take skill to know how and when to drug since everyone is pretty much equal, but in a normal battle, a heavy drugger who pretty much got the stats of 8 tanks, has no skill. If he does have skills, he certainly doesn't show them too much

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Alright, so most warrant officers are just vets, right?

So by extension, most RECRUITS are vets, right?

 

This applies to me too, because I deal with professional-level bullcrap I have to either compete against lower-ranked players or-.

 

hahahahahahhaahhaha baby noob skrub u cant fight ppl at ur rank? noob!

 

Well, unnamed voice in my head, yes.

If I can't fight people my rank how do you expect me to progress? Easy, I can't.

The wall of vets at that rank is so thick and I run into them so much, I can't progress. .-.

 

Now I'm still a noob, but imagine a recruit facing a generalissimo...

So by extension, this just becomes a loop: Recruits fight Generalissimos and either A, Quit. Or B, Power through and make it to Warrant Officer and find...big surprise...MORE generalissimos. Assuming they haven't just given up, they either: A, suck up and begin using supplies to compensate for the large gap in skill. Or B, restart because they think they've done something wrong. But now you have Warrant Officers fighting recruits. Not AS bad, mind you, but there's still the large skill gap.

 

 

 

I still have no clue how they bring in new recruits.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Alright, so most warrant officers are just vets, right?

So by extension, most RECRUITS are vets, right?

 

This applies to me too, because I deal with professional-level bullcrap I have to either compete against lower-ranked players or-.

 

hahahahahahhaahhaha baby noob skrub u cant fight ppl at ur rank? noob!

 

Well, unnamed voice in my head, yes.

If I can't fight people my rank how do you expect me to progress? Easy, I can't.

The wall of vets at that rank is so thick and I run into them so much, I can't progress. .-.

 

Now I'm still a noob, but imagine a recruit facing a generalissimo...

So by extension, this just becomes a loop: Recruits fight Generalissimos and either A, Quit. Or B, Power through and make it to Warrant Officer and find...big surprise...MORE generalissimos. Assuming they haven't just given up, they either: A, suck up and begin using supplies to compensate for the large gap in skill. Or B, restart because they think they've done something wrong. But now you have Warrant Officers fighting recruits. Not AS bad, mind you, but there's still the large skill gap.

 

 

 

I still have no clue how they bring in new recruits.

WOT has no seperation between ranks...they are just fine