Reduce power of garage supplies

[RustyNail 1,538]

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Pro Mode needs a large critical mass of players to make it more popular - and Tanki has done nothing to encourage players to use it.

Without suitable Pro Mode battles to choose from many users will not buy a pass.

 

BlackWasp777 will go down in history for getting the Go Pro club going - and great to have omrot and crew  keeping it going. 

 

If everyone in this forum thread agrees that we need to have battle options with reduced drugging then they should all sign into the Go Pro club and help start Go Pro battles.

(I have to repeat - I'm not against drugging to the optimum - I can drug with the best when I choose to (however, only when I'm on the weaker side) - I do like to see fair play - over use of drugs by the leading side is not fair play.)

 

At present it's hard to get everyone together at the same times for Go Pro.

I would like to get to the point that every hour on the hour we try to start (or find) a Go Pro battle.

If we get this - then more users will justify buying a Pro Mode pass.

 

The good news is that RU2 has been much better of late for some good Go Pro type matches - however, this is mostly for Commanders or Gismos.

This is important, because the higher rank levels have much higher levels of drugging (we have 'lost' the majority of non-druggers by this stage).

Such a shame that Tanki will not allow us to identify the non-druggers from the druggers - ideally by a count of the total drugs used on the scoreboard - especially in DM.  And health pack users in DM should be shot.

 

In Go Pro, I do prefer to have air drops switched on because I need my nitro fix! 

However, I accept the leading team tends to gain more of an advantage from air drops and so for the time being I'm prepared to accept plain vanilla.

If we get more Go Pro users then we can have more battle variety.

 

Note in Go Pro, we can swap players around to try and balance teams, we can also put on less protective paint to handicap yourself if your tank is too OP.

 

Don't know about Go Pro? - search the forum for 'Go Pro'.

Good points! :)

If I may add, except drops on (pretty much for the same reason like yours) also we could avoid spawn killing in case one team is weaker and loses all ground. Of course, in such a case next round will re arrange the teams so that they are more balanced.. If you all agree.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/Robro/

 

Ive played 1 day (total of like 5 hours). Earned 3500 cry in one day.....

However its premium because newcomers get premium for like 1 week +3 hours (3 hour mission) so make that 1750 cry.

I have Encountered 2 DRUGGERS however they didnt affect me.... we won anyway.

I didnt drug.

the 2 healths were press mistakes when I tried TAB.

I didnt buy cry.

Premium free for 7 days.

Ill update when im Wo1 and recall my experiences.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/Robro/

 

Ive played 1 day (total of like 5 hours). Earned 3500 cry in one day.....

However its premium because newcomers get premium for like 1 week +3 hours (3 hour mission) so make that 1750 cry.

I have Encountered 2 DRUGGERS however they didnt affect me.... we won anyway.

I didnt drug.

the 2 healths were press mistakes when I tried TAB.

I didnt buy cry.

Premium free for 7 days.

Ill update when im Wo1 and recall my experiences.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

thx so much

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/Robro/

 

Ive played 1 day (total of like 5 hours). Earned 3500 cry in one day.....

However its premium because newcomers get premium for like 1 week +3 hours (3 hour mission) so make that 1750 cry.

I have Encountered 2 DRUGGERS however they didnt affect me.... we won anyway.

I didnt drug.

the 2 healths were press mistakes when I tried TAB.

I didnt buy cry.

Premium free for 7 days.

Ill update when im Wo1 and recall my experiences.

What are you trying to proof?

That a player with all the experience and skills like you have,

can play without drugs when playing against newbies?

 

Wow, really impresses me! <_<

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

So.... which is it?

Druggers dont have skill ita just 12345?

or

druggers do have skill?

I wasnt playing so pro, I wasnt in such a lead...

when I created TO_wasprail, and i created it just for the purpose of being OP, i was in such a lead and i didnt even have to drug because the boxes were present and i didnt really need them. This time around i purposely didnt OP anyone. My purpose was to blend in

i used hunter smoky most of the time and then isida for a while then shaft.

In addition, when i started tanki, in august 2014, i used shaft and i was a pro as i was yeterday. I got good results back then

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

So.... which is it?

Druggers dont have skill ita just 12345?

or

druggers do have skill?

I wasnt playing so pro, I wasnt in such a lead...

when I created TO_wasprail, and i created it just for the purpose of being OP, i was in such a lead and i didnt even have to drug because the boxes were present and i didnt really need them. This time around i purposely didnt OP anyone. My purpose was to blend in

i used hunter smoky most of the time and then isida for a while then shaft.

In addition, when i started tanki, in august 2014, i used shaft and i was a pro as i was yeterday. I got good results back then

You simply avoid or deny to answer the only fact that matters in this case: you have build up a lot of skills through experience,

I assume you are pro in using the camera view, have great driving skills because you used light hulls all your

Tanki carreer and I could go on and on naming all the advantages you have compared to players that have just started.

 

Like most Tankers I also had my fair share of alt accounts to collect experience in other turrets etc: to the disbenefit of those

starting players to be honest.

Newbies simply don 't stand a chance against a high rank player 's experience: no matter if they drug and you don 't.

Half of the time they don 't even know where you are, because they still have to learn how to use the cameraview.

 

Killing newbies without drugs just takes a bit more time and that 's all.

 

Don 't worry though, enough Tankers who will believe in your view on this matter.

So just go on and proof them and yourself that you 're right. :D

[basenji7 1,199]

So I don't feel like drugging with supplies you earned from daily missions or that were bought with crystals (which technically really isn't a good idea) should be considered unfair since other players have also had the chance to earn supplies from missions or buy supply kits rather than spending their crystals on turrets or MUs. 

 

But I do feel that drugging with bought drugs lends an unfair advantage

And btw I don't drug at all you can check my profile I used supplies a few times when I needed to and a few more times accidentally but never drugging and I have a few hundred of each supply from daily missions. If I went into a battle and drugged right now with my freely earned supplies and dominated it shouldn't be considered unfair because they would also have supplies earned from missions and they could drug back if they wanted to or they would already have used up their supplies. Fiscally, I would most likely not earn back the crystals they are worth (50 or 150) but since I got them for free why shouldn't I be allowed to use them?

 

However buyers have a much larger supply of drugs than other players so it would be unfair since they can drug every time so it is unfair. 

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Looking at those profiles on page 251...the Supply is strong with these ones :o

 

These ones on page 251?

 

2000mc (135,5/hour)  http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/2000mc/

AKIFYASEEN (56,8 - 69,3/hour)  http://ratings.tankionline.com/en/user/AKIFYASEEN/

Putting aside the fact that 2000mc's drug rate was wildly exaggerated, it seems you can drug with the best of them.

 

 

 

And my garage is good enough to have a good chance against every single fighter, but no one is a match

against a coordinated heavy M4 group full on supplies.

 

...

 

It has nothing to do with victory and success:

to me these mob-players are the same like those doped cycle teams:

they also "beat" everyone, what a "great" accomplishment!

 

So your beef is not with drugs per se, because your drug rate is up there with the best of them. It's higher than mine and that of akifyaseen, someone you scoffed at for high supply usage and you're also on a par with 2000mc, the infamous and notorious, evil drugger who everyone loves to hate. 

 

I get it now, you're saying you have a problem with players like you who have friends!

Maybe we should do away with the friends system. While we're at it, we should stop players who played together in the last battle from playing together in the next to ensure you don't get upset.

 

 

My beef is only with the repair kits.

That's why you use them more than anyone I guess. 54 per hr is extremely impressive.

 

 

Reading all this:

 

An idea for a third Top 100 player list in Ratings...heaviest drugger of the week!

 

An achievement to be really proud off! :unsure:

Is this something you're going for then? I'm sure you would make the cut with your prolific drug use.

 

 

Players who from recruit on, always stayed in a zombie-like pursuit mode.

 

Mostly equipped with a medium hull, a close-range till semi-medium range turret

and lots, lots of supplies.

 

 

 

 

Welcome to the zombie club mate!

 

 

edit:

rk/hr is 1.7 not 54 - other columns still correct

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

I would like to get rid o,f the friends system, clan players of more than 2 in a game people sharing the same IP address.  These are a far greater threat than a couple or more unconnected drug/supply users.

[basenji7 1,199]

 

 

 
These ones on page 251?
 
Putting aside the fact that 2000mc's drug rate was wildly exaggerated, it seems you can drug with the best of them.
 


 
 
So your beef is not with drugs per se, because your drug rate is up there with the best of them. It's higher than mine and that of akifyaseen, someone you scoffed at for high supply usage and you're also on a par with 2000mc, the infamous and notorious, evil drugger who everyone loves to hate. 
 
I get it now, you're saying you have a problem with players like you who have friends!
Maybe we should do away with the friends system. While we're at it, we should stop players who played together in the last battle from playing together in the next to ensure you don't get upset.
 
 
That's why you use them more than anyone I guess. 54 per hr is extremely impressive.
 
 
Is this something you're going for then? I'm sure you would make the cut with your prolific drug use.
 
 

 

 
Welcome to the zombie club mate!

 

 

 

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Your repair kit rates are off. Lord-of-the-Snipers has 151/87 =  1.74 RK/Hour, yours is like 8216/390 = 21, 2000mc has a repair kit rate of 12707/674 = 18.9 so your repair kit rate is higher than 2000mc and around 12 times his

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

You simply avoid or deny to answer the only fact that matters in this case: you have build up a lot of skills through experience,

I assume you are pro in using the camera view, have great driving skills because you used light hulls all your

Tanki carreer and I could go on and on naming all the advantages you have compared to players that have just started.

 

Like most Tankers I also had my fair share of alt accounts to collect experience in other turrets etc: to the disbenefit of those

starting players to be honest.

Newbies simply don 't stand a chance against a high rank player 's experience: no matter if they drug and you don 't.

Half of the time they don 't even know where you are, because they still have to learn how to use the cameraview.

 

Killing newbies without drugs just takes a bit more time and that 's all.

 

Don 't worry though, enough Tankers who will believe in your view on this matter.

So just go on and proof them and yourself that you 're right. :D

i didnt use camera angles.

i used hunter and it was slow as h3ll

What other advantages did i purposely not use?

Aim? Maybe a slight advantage but not when using isida or shaft.

attacking tactics? Yes, i used tactics... just like i did the second i ever joined tanki. The thing is, with such slow hulls tactics are harder to find. The higher the upgrade the easier it is to be pro. Every M[n] (m1 m2 m3 m3.5+) has more to offer.

Despite being an m4 tanker its not easy to use m0. Its easier to use m4 or m3 or m2 or m1. Tactics u learn with higher M[n] dont apply to m0 or m1.

I will say that in the barda TDM when i was using the railgun i was using my exoerience of the map. I was hunter rail and i was red and i camped on the blue side where the flag would be and next to the health box and a double armor to drop down too incase the enemy teamed to get rid of me. I had the entire veiw of enemy respawn places and their exits. I was just shooting and shooting. Earned about 500 xp. 6 to 8 xp per shot.

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

 

 

These ones on page 251?

 

Putting aside the fact that 2000mc's drug rate was wildly exaggerated, it seems you can drug with the best of them.

 

 

 

 

So your beef is not with drugs per se, because your drug rate is up there with the best of them. It's higher than mine and that of akifyaseen, someone you scoffed at for high supply usage and you're also on a par with 2000mc, the infamous and notorious, evil drugger who everyone loves to hate. 

 

I get it now, you're saying you have a problem with players like you who have friends!

Maybe we should do away with the friends system. While we're at it, we should stop players who played together in the last battle from playing together in the next to ensure you don't get upset.

 

 

That's why you use them more than anyone I guess. 54 per hr is extremely impressive.

 

 

Is this something you're going for then? I'm sure you would make the cut with your prolific drug use.

 

 

 

 

 

Welcome to the zombie club mate!

 

 

First if your read more closely than you already knew that I consider myself a drugger.

I am completely hooked on DP and mines are also a huge part of my playstyle.

To a lot lesser extend I use DA and N2O.

The only supply I do buy is DP. (with the battle funds/Daily Rewards)

Would cost me only 10 crystals per piece with a 80% supplykit,

but I stubbornly refuse to buy these kits.

 

You just forgot to take notice of a quite important fact. I hardly use repairkits.

Not on this account and not on my alt. @Smok-Ti-Thun

 

And you made a big mistake in your RK/Hour calculation. <_<

 

It 's 151 RK divided by 87 hours and that is actually 1.7 Repairkit per Hour.

Where do you get that 54.092 RK/Hour from???!

(on my alt. it 's even less: 240 RK divided by 184.3 is 1.3 Repairkit per Hour)

 

It would adorn you if you admit that huge mistake our at least edit your

post because half of it doesn 't make any sense anymore after that

completely wrong calculation.

 

Next I 'm playing mostly with lighter, less armoured hulls which are very vulnerable.

Even more so in DM 's which is by far my favourite gamemode.

So I 'm even convinced that I wouldn 't do as well as I 'm doing now

without using supplies, in particular DP 's.

 

Read my posts on the Forum: I always admit I am a drugger.

 

The big difference is that I am not a repairkit cheater. That how I look at that drug.

If you damage me enough and I can 't find a dropped repairkit soon:

you will most likely win the fight. As it should be.

 

When I started playing Tanki I was a non-drugger, and Tanki should

make the game drug-free for more starting ranks than they have now.

 

At high ranks fighting in regular battles without any supplies is a personal choice.

The majority does use them, so if you don 't want to suffer you have to

find a middle ground that works for you. 

I won 't give the stupid go play Pro Battles advice, because the only working

alternative in Pro Battles is XP/BP.

Go to RU2 and find other Pro battles...good luck!

 

My personal ideal solution regarding drugs?

Keep all supplies but get rid of the repairkit completely.

Next nerf supplies 2,3 and 5 to 50% of their current strength: druggers problem solved. -_-

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

i didnt use camera angles. etc..

 

Already wished you success besides explaining my position on the matter.

Good luck!

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

A self hating drugger? O.o^

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

A self hating drugger? O.o^

Can you even imagine the pain I 'm in... :D

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

And you made a big mistake in your RK/Hour calculation. <_<

 

It 's 151 RK divided by 87 hours and that is actually 1.7 Repairkit per Hour.

Where do you get that 54.092 RK/Hour from???!

(on my alt. it 's even less: 240 RK divided by 184.3 is 1.3 Repairkit per Hour)

 

Yes, you are right, 1.7 it is. Which makes your 2,3,4,5 EVEN MORE IMPRESSIVE!

 

It would adorn you if you admit that huge mistake our at least edit your

post because half of it doesn 't make any sense anymore after that

completely wrong calculation.

It doesn't change the fact you're a bigger drugger than most and all the other columns are correct. I threw that one in there last minute, it doesn't alter the outcome, I should have double checked it. It does still make sense. Don't try wriggle out of it. 

 

Read my posts on the Forum: I always admit I am a drugger.

So quit banging on about other druggers and stop trying to give a false impression that you're not one in many of your posts. It's very hypocritical. You're worse than me for drugging and I think I use far too many! Us druggers should stay together mate.

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

 

 

 
These ones on page 251?
 
Putting aside the fact that 2000mc's drug rate was wildly exaggerated, it seems you can drug with the best of them.
 


 
 
So your beef is not with drugs per se, because your drug rate is up there with the best of them. It's higher than mine and that of akifyaseen, someone you scoffed at for high supply usage and you're also on a par with 2000mc, the infamous and notorious, evil drugger who everyone loves to hate. 
 
I get it now, you're saying you have a problem with players like you who have friends!
Maybe we should do away with the friends system. While we're at it, we should stop players who played together in the last battle from playing together in the next to ensure you don't get upset.
 
 
That's why you use them more than anyone I guess. 54 per hr  :D  :D  :D  is extremely impressive.
 
 
Is this something you're going for then? I'm sure you would make the cut with your prolific drug use.
 
 

 

 
Welcome to the zombie club mate!

 

 

 

How to make a good story out of this mess?? :P

 

 

 

 

 

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

 

 

 

 

How to make a good story out of this mess?? :P

 

 

 

 

 

Not a mess at all drugger mate. Still trying to give false impressions I see.

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

 

Yes, you are right, 1.7 it is. Which makes your 2,3,4,5 EVEN MORE IMPRESSIVE!

 

 

So quit banging on about other druggers and stop trying to give a false impression that you're not one in many of your posts. It's very hypocritical. You're worse than me for drugging and I think I use far too many! Us druggers should stay together mate.

Correction again: you keep making mistakes isn 't it? It only makes my 3 even more impressive: true that!

First button I push mostly.

My DA use is almost a third of my DP use.

 

Funny that a seasoned player like you doesn 't see the difference between someone who pushes the

repairkit button like you all the time: completely restoring full health...

Maybe that 's why it is the most expensive drug??? Because it 's by far the strongest one??? Who knows??? :P

 

...against a player who only has a limited fighting-time in comparison because I only have ONE life between

the respawns.

You have often two lives or more, even more helped a lot by your sturdy Viking.

Quite a difference isn 't it?

 

Other difference between you and me that I would applaud a huge nerf in supplies.

So in that way I 'm still on the non-druggers side, but in the real world, specifically at high ranks you have

to even the odds somehow, have peace with loosing a lot, or if you can 't have peace with the current situation: suffer.

 

You 're worse than me for drugging: yeah right, dream on! :D

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

You 're worse than me for drugging: yeah right, dream on! :D

Haha! The numbers prove your worse. You're the big dreamer here.

 

 

Other difference between you and me that I would applaud a huge nerf in supplies.

So in that way I 'm still on the non-druggers side,

My track record for non-drug use speaks for itself. I have gave suggestions to tweak it so as not to give druggers like you the advantages you currently enjoy. You're not on the non-druggers side at all. If you were, you'd be like blackwasp and refrain from using them. At least he doesn't pretend to be something he's not in his posts.

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

Not a mess at all drugger mate. Still trying to give false impressions I see.

You impressed me and still do with Kick 2.

 

You 're really less impressive on this topic, my drugger mate! :)

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

You impressed me and still do with Kick 2.

 

You 're really less impressive on this topic, my drugger mate! :)

Drugger mates together. Let's go team up in a DM and you can teach me how to use DD's like you.

With enough practice, I could be like you one day. :wub:

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

GO GO GO GO!!!!!!

1 VS 1 showdown in forum battle. Todays contestants are..... the 0 kelvins oooooh and the shafts prooooo

the question here is:

what use is a sniper when absolutezero is involved...nothing moves in 0 kelvins

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

Haha! The numbers prove your worse. You're the big dreamer here.

 

 

My track record for non-drug use speaks for itself. I have gave suggestions to tweak it so as not to give druggers like you the advantages you currently enjoy. You're not on the non-druggers side at all. If you were, you'd be like blackwasp and refrain from using them. At least he doesn't pretend to be something he's not in his posts.

Sad that you didn 't answer my statement that a repairkit is a totally different story than a DP.

You only take the total number and divide that.

 

Let 's take the extreme: a guy who only use speed and mines, against your 12345 use.

You both happen to use just as much supplies per hour: so he is exactly the same drugger as you are?

 

He is a drugger allright, but there 's a difference. Not my problem if you can 't see that or admit that.

 

And explain to me where I pretend to be a non-drugger? Please show me that post(s).

I don 't put "I am a drugger also" in every post if that 's what you mean.

No need to do so nowadays also: just look at the profile.

 

And I don 't see why a drugger like myself can 't dream of a lot more balanced Tanki where

drugs are still in play, but only slightly enhance your equipment.

Instead of turning them into an almost invulnerable super"hero".

 

If you think that 's hypocrite: fair enough and idc.