Reduce power of garage supplies

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

Operator, i still havent forgiven your backstabbing in the drugging video.

Look, I made a conscious choice to waste crystals on supplies.

If you want to be a prick about it, maybe I WILL change sides, this is friggn' ridiculous.

Well, i am going to be a prick if you continue being a hypocrite.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Well, i am going to be a prick if you continue being a hypocrite.

A hypocrite?

How? I can say I hate a movie and go watch it, that's not hypocrisy.

If I say I WON'T watch it then go watch it it's hypocrisy.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Unfortunately, that falls beyond both my control and care.

I'd like to see a more effective system of kicking mults, but this is my main area of discussion and where I've spent most of my time.

I don't see Rusty as highly anymore, and I don't want to have a side in this crap.

My opinion remains that supplies are a tool that can be used any way anyone wants, and that currently an unstable madman is flailing it at the weak.

I could care less if any of these ideas are implemented, I just come here because my opinion is heard to a more welcome and humble community of anti-supply fanatics. I'm no rebel, and we're no army, but we're a minor community. You can continue blaspheming everyone here and their cause, but just know, I do not want supplies changed in such drastic ways.

All I come here for is to be listened to without being ridiculed by children (Or in your case, grown men.) and their inability to feel emotions beyond primal instinct to argue and call names.

You're really good at doing the things you don't want others to do - I think this is hypocritical, wouldn't you agree? I don't call people names. If I point someone out as a hypocrite, then this is not name-calling, it's just factual. It's a real word - look it up, It has a proper meaning and everything!

[r_R.I.P.A0 441]

Most of them say druggers are loser.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Most of who?

The losers?

[41tkbat 52]

Playing should be fun for every player involved. And when playing the best should win and not the one with most drugs. I own 2 companies and make a lot of money so i could buy loads of drugs to "win" Druggers dont respect everybody having fun and they obviously dont want the best to win.

 

When you ask druggers to stop drugging or just make a remark about it most druggers start calling you names or start being rude in other ways. That says enough about the mentallity and caracter of most druggers. Also druggers are less skilled coz they rely on drugs too much.

 

AND: 2 years ago at any given time there would be at least 200 k players online. A lot of players left coz the drugging got a lot worse about 18 months ago. Now even in the weekend there are not even 100 k players online. Drugs and druggers destroy tanki.

 

And about tanki existing coz people buying crystals to buy drugs: they have a pretty stupid businessmodel coz they chase their customers away. It is very easy to change some things so druggers can drug without anoying others and and so that others dont leave.

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

Well, since this topic has really gone downhill im going to make a last ditch effort to save this before it gets closed for the same reason Secret Love was.

 

Drugs in the lower ranks are hard to get, if you drug as much as the crystal buyers do you wont be able to buy good equipment and end up a birg with only m1s. Yes, the pro pass exists but not many people even buy it before they get XP/BP equipment. So dont just say something like "buy pro pass go to ru1 drug free battle" because that proves you are just an *****. After you get to a higher rank the drugging becomes less of an issue, more people drug but you can afford drugs easier. If you save up for XP/BP equipment it really shouldnt be a problem provided you like XP/BP. Once you are a gissimo you are pretty much free to buy as many drugs as you like, you can see people with thousands, even tens of thousands of drugs unused.

 

 

There, now please be more like AbsoluteZero and provide a real argument instead of just trolling.

[karlmfao 33]

I get fed enough drugs to not even care, but I hate drugging. It is possible to win without the use of them, but I do agree a nerf on tge first three should be in order. The problem with this is parkour. So here is my resolution. If the gamemode is parkour, then the drugs are at full strentgh, if not tgey get to be the weakened version

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

when playing the best should win and not the one with most drugs.

Why?

 

Druggers dont respect everybody having fun and they obviously dont want the best to win.

Please can you give details on how you know this? What surveys/polls did you carry out to arrive at this conclusion?

 

When you ask druggers to stop drugging or just make a remark about it most druggers start calling you names or start being rude in other ways. That says enough about the mentallity and caracter of most druggers.

Do you think asking players to stop using supplies would work in a game where supplies are allowed to be used? Do you think everyone will say, "Everyone stop! 41kbat says no more supplies... we must do as he wants"?

 

When you say, "that says enough about the mentallity and caracter of most druggers", what does exactly? You've presented no evidence for your accusation and saying it does not make it true.

 

AND: 2 years ago at any given time there would be at least 200 k players online. A lot of players left coz the drugging got a lot worse about 18 months ago. Now even in the weekend there are not even 100 k players online. Drugs and druggers destroy tanki.

Spring and Summer has traditionally been a quiet time for tanki and 2 years ago, it was never as high as 200k. It did jump up around Halloween time to just over 120k and Christmas time 2014 saw figures of just under 140k. How do I know this? Because unlike some around here, I fact check things first instead of making it up as I go along.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And about tanki existing coz people buying crystals to buy drugs: they have a pretty stupid businessmodel coz they chase their customers away. It is very easy to change some things so druggers can drug without anoying others and and so that others dont leave.

Make your suggestions then. They will listen.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Well, since this topic has really gone downhill im going to make a last ditch effort to save this before it gets closed for the same reason Secret Love was.

 

Drugs in the lower ranks are hard to get, if you drug as much as the crystal buyers do you wont be able to buy good equipment and end up a birg with only m1s. Yes, the pro pass exists but not many people even buy it before they get XP/BP equipment. So dont just say something like "buy pro pass go to ru1 drug free battle" because that proves you are just an *****. After you get to a higher rank the drugging becomes less of an issue, more people drug but you can afford drugs easier. If you save up for XP/BP equipment it really shouldnt be a problem provided you like XP/BP. Once you are a gissimo you are pretty much free to buy as many drugs as you like, you can see people with thousands, even tens of thousands of drugs unused.

 

 

There, now please be more like AbsoluteZero and provide a real argument instead of just trolling.

you are the troll.

Thats all i have to say.

if drugging is the majority the its not a problem. If you dont like it........ here it is...... "get pro pass" there is nothing wrong with pro pass, its price is slightly spikey but thats about it.

decide to save that 60k a year? Then GET FRIENDS!!! Tanki has incrediblly awesome players and very friendly ones. Hook with players you do like, invite friends.. dislike that drugger whos making ur team run? Invite ur friends and over power him

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

^

Accept the challenge to assassin that drugger. It may not reward cry or xp.. initially, but you will get better at it and eventually you will be a pro

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

More freebees - I've had more free Double Armors, over (1,600), in the last couple of days than Rusty has used, (1,162), since Ratings came out. There really is no excuse for saving these up and not using them. They're free, courtesy of Tanki Online! 

 

Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face. 

 

[lukey0 27,543]

AbsoluteZero is owning all who appose! :LOL:

 

I 110% agree with you though, we are almost given too many supplies, there are no excuses of not drugging.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

AbsoluteZero is owning all who appose! :lol:

 

I 110% agree with you though, we are almost given too many supplies, there are no excuses of not drugging.

haha, thanks - but I do agree there is more that can be done to stop mindless, needless drugging. Every time I press 2, 3, 4 or 5, I am mindful that each press is costing me 10 crystals. (worked out from 80% discount tanki gives us for a 1500 supply bundle). And every time I press 1, that costs me 30 crystals. So I have to balance my drugging with my rewards.

 

If I do it right, I should earn enough crystals to buy me another 1500 supplies kit and that way they become self-sustaining. If I can have some left over for other things too then that would be great.

 

Currently, on average I press the keys 1, 2 and 3, every 2 minutes 38 seconds.

So doing the math, a 1500 supplies kit should last me on average 3,950 minutes of play.

Or to put it in terms of 15 minute games, 263 battles.

 

In order for me to make 105,000 crystals to buy the next kit, I need to average 399 crystals reward per game.

Some battles will yield more and some will be less than 399 but knowing this as a general rule of thumb helps me manage my supply use. Gold boxes (5 this week), free crystals and supplies from missions and chains, assist me in renewing the bundle and I find my overall crystals are still growing.

 

I have an excellent garage and an attacking style of play which means I spend my supplies very quickly, (263 battles). I like to break down drugging defenses so my team wins and gets the greater rewards. But if my garage wasn't so strong, I'd use my supplies more sensibly and make my bundle really work for me. I would hang back a bit, use my surroundings for cover, pick players off and let others do most of the dirty work. This means I could buy the next supplies bundle AND that shiny m3 kit that's on offer in the shop window.

 

Drugs are here to stay and we can either embrace them or condemn them.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Wonderfull speeches y'all.

so true.

I think its as solid as a quark (or string if you beleive that theiry... i do but its just a theory) (quarks are an undividable basic elementary particle) what the pro druggers say (while im a drugger i hardly play and when i do play i lag 999 ping yet still manage to play).

I used example quark because its not made of smaller things and cant be split. Its also elementary.

Anybody who is still against us is an ion. A system that is unbalanced

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Wonderfull speeches y'all.

Thanks. I gave this topic an example of mindful drugging, ie my own usage. Here is a prime example of mindless drugging.

 

 

 

 

 

It takes great effort to waste supplies at such a rate, 207 per hour, costing on average 747 crystals per 15 minute battle. No way does he get this much in return and totally unsustainable. But they're his to waste and if he wants to pay the wages of several staff members then that's his choice  :D

 

My suggestion would help in this situation but I can understand tanki's reluctance to do anything about it because it pays wages and this player keeps people in jobs. It also helps support the development of the game so we can all play.

 

You should all send this guy a gift and thank him for his commitment and support.

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

^But if one have the money, why not? I don't really nitpick when it comes to entertainment. It's my money & it's how I choose to spend it...

[Official-Kofi 29]

Well, since this topic has really gone downhill im going to make a last ditch effort to save this before it gets closed for the same reason Secret Love was.

 

Drugs in the lower ranks are hard to get, if you drug as much as the crystal buyers do you wont be able to buy good equipment and end up a birg with only m1s. Yes, the pro pass exists but not many people even buy it before they get XP/BP equipment. So dont just say something like "buy pro pass go to ru1 drug free battle" because that proves you are just an *****. After you get to a higher rank the drugging becomes less of an issue, more people drug but you can afford drugs easier. If you save up for XP/BP equipment it really shouldnt be a problem provided you like XP/BP. Once you are a gissimo you are pretty much free to buy as many drugs as you like, you can see people with thousands, even tens of thousands of drugs unused.

 

 

There, now please be more like AbsoluteZero and provide a real argument instead of just trolling.

Finally someone that speaks english

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

^But if one have the money, why not? I don't really nitpick when it comes to entertainment. It's my money & it's how I choose to spend it...

agreed!

 

The point I'm trying to make is one of sustainability. I've not calculated where the line is before drug rates become mindless but I'm guessing nobody can sustain a 750 crystal average return from a 15 minute battle. My best guess is about 600 crystals average, 650 tops. So if you spend more than that on average, i'd put you in the mindless drugger zone.

 

And I think this is what needs addressing and we need to put our heads together to come up with a solution for excess, needless supply use. While I disagree with a lot of the suggestions this topic has produced and the reasons for them, I do think something still needs to be done.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Finally someone that speaks english

English*

 

I thought I've been doing ok so far. I get squiggly lines under my words if I get them wrong!  :wacko: 

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Hmmm.

from 1 - 10.

How would you rate my posts language wise?

I fear im really blind to language mistakes

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

agreed!

 

The point I'm trying to make is one of sustainability. I've not calculated where the line is before drug rates become mindless but I'm guessing nobody can sustain a 750 crystal average return from a 15 minute battle. My best guess is about 600 crystals average, 650 tops. So if you spend more than that on average, i'd put you in the mindless drugger zone.

 

And I think this is what needs addressing and we need to put our heads together to come up with a solution for excess, needless supply use. While I disagree with a lot of the suggestions this topic has produced and the reasons for them, I do think something still needs to be done.

But with Premium, your earning is 2x, which means your leverage is more...

[AlphaNinjaGirl 537]

if drugging is the majority the its not a problem.

So, your point is what? If you're trying to push this point by stating how many druggers there are in discussion on this topic, I'm going to say that it's the other way around -- you druggers flocked to this topic to purposely try to prove that there are more druggers than non-druggers, which is not only immature but also probably false...

 

Also you forgot to capitalize the "if" and to add the apostrophe on your "it's". ;)

 

"get pro pass" there is nothing wrong with pro pass, its price is slightly spikey but thats about it.

Again with the "get PRO pass" argument. I can't speak for everyone, but the problem that I have with this argument isn't the price (honestly 5K isn't really that bad if you're a decent player), it's the fact that I HAVE to pay any sum of crystals per month to play in skill-based battles, rather than roided-out slugfests.

 

Forcing players through a money gate (regardless of cost) to get to the decent battles is the equivalent of Tanki taking a dog-sized bowel movement on their free-to-play community, and by that I mean the bowel movement is the size of a dog (sorry, that metaphor got away from me).

 

I think its as solid as a quark... what the pro druggers say

Anybody who is still against us is an ion. A system that is unbalanced

While I applaud your faith in your opinions, they're still opinions -- you view the situation from the side of the druggers, who mostly say (not all, but most) "I have plenty of money -- I shall use it to dominate the poor and helpless in an effort to make lesser men weak!" which (in my opinion) is not only selfish and unkind, but also ruins the game for a lot of players.

 

Point is this -- opinions and facts are literally antonyms, and when someone tries to state their opinion as fact, I assume their intelligence status to equal that of someone who would overturn a ship full of orphans simply because he doesn't want sharks to go hungry (again that metaphor, but you get the point).

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

you are the troll.

Thats all i have to say.

if drugging is the majority the its not a problem. If you dont like it........ here it is...... "get pro pass" there is nothing wrong with pro pass, its price is slightly spikey but thats about it.

decide to save that 60k a year? Then GET FRIENDS!!! Tanki has incrediblly awesome players and very friendly ones. Hook with players you do like, invite friends.. dislike that drugger whos making ur team run? Invite ur friends and over power him

"I have an idea! Lets reply to a post and then just ignore everything someone says to it and call the person a troll!" I never said the pro pass was overpriced. I think you should just learn english. And about friends overpowering druggers, tanki has a system that only lets people join the side with less players. All inviting friends will do is replace your team that ragequit.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

But with Premium, your earning is 2x, which means your leverage is more...

Don't misunderstand the point I'm making.  Anyone can buy crystals or premium passes and players can do that if they so wish as it's there money - you won't find any complaints from me there. Perhaps I wasn't quite clear. On the last few pages I've been trying to make the argument on how someone, at my rank at least, can in theory sustain a certain level of drugging without buying.  I used my own usage as an example of how to sustain a certain level and shown another example which would be unsustainable.