Reduce power of garage supplies

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Well.

Alphaninjagirl and railguniz4noobs

The posts you make are way too full if inacurate assumptions. Its just wat top hard to respond to such a writing style. You guys write like a biased journalist and its sickening. Always saying you are pro, good, fair, balanced.

Well ill be damned if I wasn't either.

Have you ever considered this?:

You say drugging requires no to little skill.

you say none drugging requires skill

I ask whats the difference?

 

Did you know that drop box only battles can be unbalanced? Yes.

Starladder battles, like dailycups, weekend cup, ranking cup .etc, were won if one team controlled the drops. And once the enemy has controlled the drops the team cant win. In drug battles both sides can drug but in drops only, once a situation that I described happens then the team cant fight back as they have no supplies to counter with. That is an unbalanced game. While drug battles everyone can drug.

 

To remove drops and supplies totally?

supplies contribute to game play. Without supplies the gameplay becomes flat.

The things players need to deal with while in drug and drop enabled:

Faster

More armored

More powerfull

 

If that is what you call unbalanced then why do you buy m1 or m2 or m3.

The health:

This adds armor.

 

Drugging gameplay requires anyplayer wether buyer or not to be in danger of 1 shot. Of extremely heavy armor. Superspeed hulls. The trouble of having to steer at higher speeds. Getting flipped more. Going over mines.

Those are aspects none drug battles dont have. What do none drug battles have? Steady damage over time. You know how much damage you will receive/give (in drug battles this changes)

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

that they are incapable of presenting their view in a calm, orderly fashion, which leads to insults, pointless memes, and lots of trolls. Which is sad. :(

I've done nothing but present my arguments in an orderly fashion, backed up with real facts and figures using real data from this game that anyone can check. Humorous memes when used in disagreement to make an on-topic point are fine and can be funny. Using them simply just to troll is another matter.

 

Do you want to see pointless memes? Check out my topic, kick2 - click here and scroll down.

Go see @RustyNail trolling the most liked topic in the EN forum with animated gifs that have no relevance whatsoever. He's done this because he cannot refute my arguments here. @AlphaNinjaGirl, do you have anything to say about Rusty's behaviour or will you condone it?

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

First of all we all are here discuss how to make drugging less so STOP THIS FLAME WAR

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Go on then. Discuss!

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

First of all we all are here discuss how to make drugging less so STOP THIS FLAME WAR

I am certainly not here to make drugging less.

[RustyNail 1,538]

I've done nothing but present my arguments in an orderly fashion, backed up with real facts and figures using real data from this game that anyone can check. Humorous memes when used in disagreement to make an on-topic point are fine and can be funny. Using them simply just to troll is another matter.

 

Do you want to see pointless memes? Check out my topic, kick2 - click here and scroll down.

Go see @RustyNail trolling the most liked topic in the EN forum with animated gifs that have no relevance whatsoever. He's done this because he cannot refute my arguments here. @AlphaNinjaGirl, do you have anything to say about Rusty's behaviour or will you condone it?

 

And we come at last to the core of it. :)

After a dozen pages of absolutezero's friends releasing a meme war in this topic, creating a mesh and deteriorating the topic's theme, I went and posted 1+1 memes (one of them the same with another one they had used) at his precious little topic. Whoa! How could I do this! Once is a crime, but a dozen is nothing, if of course they come from his friends.

 

Also. He says, "the most liked" topic in regard to his topic. Based on the number of likes he has received. When of course, there wasn't really opposite side to state the opinion, only questions and wondering about the calculations. Yet, this topic never got an approval from Tanki, in fact for pages he whined why  they kept ignoring him.

 

But this topic, in regard to drugging, IS THE MOST POPULAR topic (non themed) in this section of the forum.  :P  This is why, I believe, he got so engaged in destroying it and kept coming here to bomb us with falsified evidence (and logic) and trolling friends.

Just a matter of jealousy.

 

The truth is I waited for this response of his so that I can stop following this silly matter and free my eyes from really dump and incompetent replies in regard to a technical issue of unbalanced battle environment that most of the trolls do not understand.

 

Anyway, this topic tends to be obsolete, since Tanki introduced the week bonuses and is actually making steps in restoring (kind of) the imbalance*. Not in a way I would like, but still its doing it. Nowadays a free player can get more free supplies (except repair kits) than was possible two months ago and thus can somehow fight back the drugging players. Superficially an improvement. Yet, the real issue is the monetization and the distribution of power, so still there are collateral issues. But that's not for this topic.

 

Having said that, I am leaving this topic and won't ever return so if you want to say something to me don't bother to post here, send it in a message (except from the known trolls that I ignore).

I wish you all enjoy the game and to those that spend hours searching for data to hurt my reputation, well, get a life! :P

 

 

*it's doing what I have said it would do right after the SCD was presented, and that is turning us all into druggers. That's the way Tanki wants it and it's their right to do so. What will this do to the players' base, time will tell.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

As I have thought....

he has been kicked from this topic by our comments.... he realized he lost.

all and great.

[viratno2 146]

Well, since this topic has lost both of its main starters and also many auxiliary supporters, and is now overrun by the druggers defending themselves, I guess now is a suitable time to close it. This topic has served its purpose and its time to take it out lol.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Tankionline:

 

Tanki Online Europe Ltd, represented by Konrad Abela on behalf of Asteria Management Ltd. and Karpovich Aleksandr Vladimirovich, a company duly registered under the laws of Malta on the 22nd March, 2013 bearing registration number C 59774, and having its registered address at 60/2 Melita Street, Valletta VLT 1122 (hereinafter referred to as “Tanki Online” or “Company”)

As written in the EULA

http://tankionline.com/en/eula/

 

 

Tankionline is a company.

This company funds its workers and it founders based on its player's purchasing of crystals.

(I dont know where this is written but it certainly is the logical thing. Do you see ads? Do you see investment opportunities in tankionline advertised?

Do you know of any entity funding them?)

 

There are 2 things to purchase in tankionline.

"Premium"

"Crystals"

 

“Paid Service” shall mean any purchase of Crystals and/or Premium Account used for any in-Game and/or Internet Site additional services or possibilities on terms of the simple non-exclusive and revocable license, in extent and on conditions provided by the Company.-""-

-""- “Payment’’ shall mean the fees paid by the User to Payment Agents to avail himself of the Paid Services requested, which order and amount shall be determined and regulated by the Paid Services Purchase Instruction.-""-

As written in EULA

 

 

Tankionline needs these funds to run tankionline and they allow themselves extra profit. They are a company.

 

 

 

Comment "hector has heavy hulls" if you saw this[ (to check if you are opening the spoliers)

 

 

With concern to drugging and the claim that it creates inbalance, unfair battles, and makes buyers too OP:

 

Tanki's biggest income is created by buying drugs (a claim that has been repeated alot... is it true?) A good business plan is a business that sells an item thats drains. A product that the customer will like and buy again once it has drained ( The gillette King business strategy https://hbr.org/2010/09/gillettes-strange-history-with

can tell you a bit about that.)

However to remain a good and balanced free to play they need to have the same product available for free or a free way to get around them (not in the case of premium. but premium does make up for the lack of drugs bought) So tanki hands out lots of free drugs and prices drugs at a decent price so incase the free player wants more he can get more at the cost of a certain amount of crystals.

 

Tanki online has been very smart; Instead of making each drug 10 crystals, they made each one expensive, promoting kits... how is this smart?

Its smart because it helps balance the game across the ranks. Lower ranks earn less crystals so buyers have a bigger par between them and free players. Therefore the kits offer less for a smaller discount making buying drugs less efficient and therefore creating less drugger buyers in the lower ranks. In addition it helps encourage players to spend their crystals on equipment.

 

Tankionline has provided a solution for players who want battles with out buyers having and advantage. Spending 5000 crystals for an option like that is reasonable and its up to the players to use this system as tankionline wont promote such a system because its not in their business strategy.

 

Allthough tankers who buy crystals have advantages in the amount of crystals they can purchase, they still aren't overlyadvantaged in their drugging capabilities.

A drugger can use a maximum of 3 drugs per minute on average. Ofc u can use 5 within 45 seconds but that means to stay out of enemies way and wait for cooldowns (surviving an attack longer than 30 seconds. before having to use health is a challenge in a drug war). 3 drugs per minute in a 15 minute battle is 45 drugs a battle. Using 4 per minute with the generalissino kit equals 50 cry per minute. Thats 750 crystals a battle using 4 drugs. 662 crystals for 3 per minute. (1700 drugs for 105000 means...105000÷1700+1700+1700+1700+1700(3) = 8.8235294118 for all except health which costs 26.4705882353. Most druggers dont use drugs at this rate . But even if they earn enough to cover it. Most druggers spend 35 cry per minute.

The free drugs that tankers receive is plenty enough so that they only need to use a few hundred crystals daily worth of drugs.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

He says, "the most liked" topic in regard to his topic. Based on the number of likes he has received. When of course, there wasn't really opposite side to state the opinion, only questions and wondering about the calculations.

It did have opposition. You opposed it. This is what you wrote in defense of mult-like players...

 

I cannot agree with this system. I have some objections on an ethical or even philosophical level.

I feel that such a severe attitude is somehow contrary to the idea of a GAME.

...

Trying to save the game you will ruin it from another aspect.

Brubook would be so proud of you!

 

 

But this topic, in regard to drugging, IS THE MOST POPULAR topic (non themed) in this section of the forum.  :P  This is why, I believe, he got so engaged in destroying it and kept coming here to bomb us with falsified evidence (and logic) and trolling friends.

Just a matter of jealousy.

And I already provided facts about that.

About 90% of the posts for the first 70 pages are done by the same contributors.

Don't confuse the words 'most popular' with 'most discussed' or even 'most whined about' for that matter!

 

I didn't destroy this topic. It's thriving thanks to recent contrary opinion. My input and posts have been laden with evidence which anyone could fact-check and verify. To say I've falsified this evidence is childish indeed and now you're sounding extremely jealous that you couldn't articulate your arguments as you would have liked.

 

AbsoluteZero is owning all who appose!

On top of this, I have also taken the time to politely answer some of the grievances laid out on page 71. I have provided thought-provoking suggestions, solutions and alternatives and have been constantly abused through-out by you for my efforts, which, you ignored for the most part anyway.

 

 

Anyway, this topic tends to be obsolete, since Tanki introduced the week bonuses and is actually making steps in restoring (kind of) the imbalance*. Not in a way I would like, but still its doing it. Nowadays a free player can get more free supplies (except repair kits) than was possible two months ago and thus can somehow fight back the drugging players. Superficially an improvement.

So you did read my posts! I'm glad you found them educational. If you need any more assistance, just holler!

 

 

Having said that, I am leaving this topic and won't ever return

Won't ever return? I bet you do! You'll make an exception for me I'm sure - lol.

 

Later mate!

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Hellooooo?!!!!!

Any anti drugger?

Im waiting for you to agree or disagree.

[AlphaNinjaGirl 537]

AlphaNinjaGirl, do you have anything to say about Rusty's behaviour or will you condone it?

First off, that comment was not directed solely at druggers, but at the majority of players in this topic. A lot of players, both druggers and anti-druggers, are so vehement in their defense of their gameplay style that they are unable to see other players' points of view. I find that sad.

 

As to your question... no, I do not condone trolling or posting irrelevant memes or gifs. Despite me being in agreement with RustyNail on the topic of drugs, I do not believe behavior like this is acceptable from anyone.

 

 

Hellooooo?!!!!!

Any anti drugger?

Im waiting for you to agree or disagree.

I've actually posted a new topic in Ideas and Suggestions. As of this post, I'm still waiting for it to be approved by moderators, but I'll send you a link if you prefer. It concerns not only drugs, but the differences between buyers and free players in general, and what we can do to balance the game, make buyers and free players friends again, and help Tanki's economy at the same time. :)

[AlphaNinjaGirl 537]

Drugging gameplay requires anyplayer wether buyer or not to be in danger of 1 shot. Of extremely heavy armor. Superspeed hulls. The trouble of having to steer at higher speeds. Getting flipped more. Going over mines.

Those are aspects none drug battles dont have. What do none drug battles have? Steady damage over time. You know how much damage you will receive/give (in drug battles this changes)

I've stated this several times before, and I'm cool with stating it again:

 

I have absolutely nothing against supply drops in battles. In fact, I quite enjoy them. Supply drops grant powerful bonuses to players who can memorize where they drop, be there at the right time and place, and (if they're smart and/or lucky) activate several at once to unleash awesome power. I LOVE supply drops.

 

The reason I prefer drugless battles (battles with no garage supplies allowed) is that, in order to gain these bonuses, you must know the map and be able to use that knowledge to your advantage. Map knowledge is a skill, and takes time and effort to develop (albeit just a little bit... still takes effort). Drugs effectively negate the need for map knowledge simply through the press of a button, which frustrates people who like effective map control.

 

In short... supply drops require knowledge and skill to collect, drugs require no skill to activate. Crazy, I know. :P

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

Mate, please don't forget to provide evidences when you state anything -_- thanks for your cooperation in this matter bro

 

 

 

Yeah... i give up. No point in arguing about these P2W lower ranks. And for you gissimos complaining about drugs, you get a ton more crystals then the lower ranks. Just go buy some drugs, or farm missions for a day. Heck, you can still buy the PP and play in a lot more drug free battles for an entire MONTH.

 

 

EDIT: And why do i always get the first post on a page?

[DageLV 940]

Yeah... i give up. No point in arguing about these P2W lower ranks. And for you gissimos complaining about drugs, you get a ton more crystals then the lower ranks. Just go buy some drugs, or farm missions for a day. Heck, you can still buy the PP and play in a lot more drug free battles for an entire MONTH.

 

 

EDIT: And why do i always get the first post on a page?

Nop i buy it every single month and i dont want to buy unlimited pass.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

I've stated this several times before, and I'm cool with stating it again:

 

I have absolutely nothing against supply drops in battles. In fact, I quite enjoy them. Supply drops grant powerful bonuses to players who can memorize where they drop, be there at the right time and place, and (if they're smart and/or lucky) activate several at once to unleash awesome power. I LOVE supply drops.

 

The reason I prefer drugless battles (battles with no garage supplies allowed) is that, in order to gain these bonuses, you must know the map and be able to use that knowledge to your advantage. Map knowledge is a skill, and takes time and effort to develop (albeit just a little bit... still takes effort). Drugs effectively negate the need for map knowledge simply through the press of a button, which frustrates people who like effective map control.

 

In short... supply drops require knowledge and skill to collect, drugs require no skill to activate. Crazy, I know. :P

not saying I dislike drops.... but fine.

 

Waitinh for your topic

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

^Epic rekting right there, :o.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

But this topic, in regard to drugging, IS THE MOST POPULAR topic (non themed) in this section of the forum.  :P  This is why, I believe, he got so engaged in destroying it and kept coming here to bomb us with falsified evidence (and logic) and trolling friends.

Just a matter of jealousy.

So I wrote a little autohotkey script to fact-check how popular this topic really is.

 

Some facts then for topic posts up to 6,145

• It only took 12 people to post more than 50% of the content
• It only took 41 people to post more than 75% of the content
• @The-Operator219 was the top poster with 9.03% of the posts (555)
• @Brubook was the second top poster with 8.83% of the posts (543)
• @RustyNail is the third top poster with 7.42% of the posts (456)
• & contributed 47 times each
• 180 were one-time-only posters (44% of the total number of posters)
• The word 'noob' appeared 720 times while 'stupid' only appeared 237 times.
• Kick2 has more Likes (+1s) than this topic has unique posters

So this topic is clearly not as popular you made out, is it?

 

[41tkbat 52]

I wonder if you'd stay calm and polite if you were just blamed 1726 times a day? And as I (we) said before:

 

You can't ask someone who invests his own money not to take full advantage of his investment. People who claim not having fun because of evil, selfish and disrespectful druggers are either forever cheapskate free-users, buyers who mismanage their wallet or antisocial people incapable to sympathize with good and reliable players (even if I admit the latter are very rare in this virtual universe :ph34r:).

I have always been a cheapskate free-user. Nevertheless, I learnt to button my mouth after a few months of in-game whining and spent more efforts to compete against druggers. Now, I'm a happy drugging free-user :D

 

I don't get why do you encourage successful players to adapt their game for lazy people. Better level skills up and not down...

 

========================

 

A few months ago, I downloaded the free-to-play World of Warships, a game where two teams of warships fight in virtual maps - like Tanki.

 

After I watched some tutorials on YouTube, I played 30 battles for one week as a free-user and succeeded to unlock a few ships but couldn't upgrade primordial parameters such as secondary weapons and crew skills since they required real money. I faced many strong ships that were sailing like roadrunners and whose owners were undoubtedly buyers, but I challenged myself and tried to beat them with my rubbishy ships.

 

I decided not to progress further in this game because I didn't want to invest and didn't find any way to level up for free, so I uninstalled the game quietly and bought a new tennis racket on Amazon.

 

Should have I created a topic on their forum to blame powerful buyers? (Tip below)

 

 

 

2000mc, You are one of the people being rude in chat a lot . And being told many times to stop drugging is not an excuse to behave rude. . And:while playing the best should win and not the one drugging most. Playing is suppost to be fun for every player involved and druggers dont repect that at all. That in my opinion is a lack of civilisation and manners. And you taking advantage of your money spent: well, you are right about that. Therefore i have written in forum many times they have a bad businessmodel. They chase customers away by using drugs and druggers this way. If tanki would make the druggers buying a propass to be able to join where they can drug they wouldnt chase possible customers away, You have to get and keep people interested to make them buy. And about you suggesting money should be an issue: i own 2 companies wich are doing very well. The point is that people should have a choice to play druggersbattles or not. Nobody starts playing tanki with buying crystals. One of social skills and empathy is having consideration with others. If you druggers are a minority in battles and are asked to stop you could stop or go in another battle. But you and druggers like you decide tp ruin other peoples fun. That lack of manners empathy and social skills is common amongst druggers. Just as trashtalking about family telling people to shut up, saying f u, or just start to insukt fair players in general. And btw: yo and I know you misbehaved in other ways too dont we?

 

AND: About 2 years ago there would be at least 200 k players online at any given time. A lot pf players i know have left coz the drugging became an epidemic disease. Now even in weekends there are less then 100 k players online and therefore there are a lot less battle. That is how tanki and druggers destroy tanki.

 

AND: how can you be proud of the rank you have, or the crystals you "earn"or the xp you "earn" when you have bought all of these? Like I wrote before: I own 2 well doing companies so i could buy loads of crystals and ranks, but in my opinion your skills should earn it.

[AlphaNinjaGirl 537]

You can't summarise like this picker = skillfull, drugger = no skill. As said many times so far:

Well, after reading the post that you replied to, you probably still don't get what I meant. Let me reiterate.

 

Supplies are very powerful bonuses, and in my opinion, should only be acquired by driving to a supply drop area and picking up the box off the ground. That's how I believe these powerups should be obtained, because you have to know where the drop zones are. And in order to obtain the legendary "Full Tiara", you have to drive through several active drop zones, which is rather difficult during the heat of battle. This need for map knowledge means that only the players who know the map the best will ever get full drugs activated, which is fair.

 

Drugs, (supplies activated via keyboard) negate the need for players to learn the map layout, and instead allow them to gain more than one power at once without driving through the supply zone. They can also be activated at any time, which makes them even more powerful than supply drops. This means that druggers don't need to memorize map layouts; if you wanted a candy bar, and you already had an infinite supply at your house, you wouldn't need to memorize the location of the candy store, would you?

 

I'm not simply stating "druggers are skill-less", since there are several facets to "skill" in Tanki. I'm saying "drugs severely reduce the need for map knowledge", the latter of which is an important skill. In my opinion, you should only gain a "Full Tiara" if you are a clever player who can reach several drop zones, NOT if you are a six-year-old who can count to five.

 

Now do you understand?

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

2000mc, You are one of the people being rude in chat a lot . And being told many times to stop drugging is not an excuse to behave rude. . And:while playing the best should win and not the one drugging most. Playing is suppost to be fun for every player involved and druggers dont repect that at all. That in my opinion is a lack of civilisation and manners. And you taking advantage of your money spent: well, you are right about that. Therefore i have written in forum many times they have a bad businessmodel. They chase customers away by using drugs and druggers this way. If tanki would make the druggers buying a propass to be able to join where they can drug they wouldnt chase possible customers away, You have to get and keep people interested to make them buy. And about you suggesting money should be an issue: i own 2 companies wich are doing very well. The point is that people should have a choice to play druggersbattles or not. Nobody starts playing tanki with buying crystals. One of social skills and empathy is having consideration with others. If you druggers are a minority in battles and are asked to stop you could stop or go in another battle. But you and druggers like you decide tp ruin other peoples fun. That lack of manners empathy and social skills is common amongst druggers. Just as trashtalking about family telling people to shut up, saying f u, or just start to insukt fair players in general. And btw: yo and I know you misbehaved in other ways too dont we?

 

AND: About 2 years ago there would be at least 200 k players online at any given time. A lot pf players i know have left coz the drugging became an epidemic disease. Now even in weekends there are less then 100 k players online and therefore there are a lot less battle. That is how tanki and druggers destroy tanki.

 

AND: how can you be proud of the rank you have, or the crystals you "earn"or the xp you "earn" when you have bought all of these? Like I wrote before: I own 2 well doing companies so i could buy loads of crystals and ranks, but in my opinion your skills should earn it.

Tankionline:

 Tanki Online Europe Ltd, represented by Konrad Abela on behalf of Asteria Management Ltd. and Karpovich Aleksandr Vladimirovich, a company duly registered under the laws of Malta on the 22nd March, 2013 bearing registration number C 59774, and having its registered address at 60/2 Melita Street, Valletta VLT 1122 (hereinafter referred to as “Tanki Online” or “Company”)

As written in the EULA

 http://tankionline.com/en/eula/

tankionline is a company.

This company funds its workers and it founders based on its player's purchasing of crystals.

(I dont know where this is written but it certainly is the logical thing. Do you see ads? Do you see investment opportunities in tankionline advertised?

Do you know of any entity funding them?)

There are 2 things to purchase in tankionline.

"Premium"

"Crystals"

 “Paid Service” shall mean any purchase of Crystals and/or Premium Account used for any in-Game and/or Internet Site additional services or possibilities on terms of the simple non-exclusive and revocable license, in extent and on conditions provided by the Company.-""-

-""- “Payment’’ shall mean the fees paid by the User to Payment Agents to avail himself of the Paid Services requested, which order and amount shall be determined and regulated by the Paid Services Purchase Instruction.-""-

As written in EULA

 

Tankionline needs these funds to run tankionline and they allow themselves extra profit. They are a company.

 

With concern to drugging and the fact that it creates inbalance, unfair battles, and makes buyers too OP.

Tanki's biggest income is created by buying drugs (a claim that has been repeated alot... is it true?) A good business plan is a business that sells an item thats drains. A product that the customer will like and buy again once it has drained ( The gillette King business strategy https://hbr.org/2010/09/gillettes-strange-history-with

can tell you a bit about that.)

However to remain a good and balanced  free to play they need to have the same product available for free or a free way to get around them. So tanki hands out lots of free drugs and prices drugs at a decent price so incase the free player wants more he can get more at the cost of a certain amount of crystals. Tanki online has been very smart; Instead of making each drug 10 crystals, they made each one expensive, promoting kits... how is this smart?

Its smart because it helps balance the game across the ranks. Lower ranks earn less crystals so buyers have a bigger par between them and free players. Therefore the kits offer less for a smaller discount making buying drugs less efficient and therefore creating less drugger buyers in the lower ranks. In addition it helps encourage players to spend their crystals on equipment. Tankionline has provided a solution for players who want battles with out buyers having and advantage. Spending 5000 crystals for an option like that is reasonable and its up to the players to use this system as tankionline wont promote such a system because its not in their business strategy.

Allthough tankers who buy crystals have advantages in the amount of crystals they can purchase, they still aren't overlyadvantaged in their drugging capabilities.

A drugger can use a maximum of 3 drugs per minute on average. Ofc u can use 5 within 45 seconds but that means to stay out of enemies way and wait for cooldowns (surviving an attack longer than 30 seconds. before having to use health is a challenge in a drug war). 3 drugs per minute in a 15 minute battle is 45 drugs a battle. Using 4 per minute with the generalissino kit equals 50 cry per minute. Thats 750 crystals a battle using 4 drugs. 662 crystals for 3 per minute. (1700 drugs for 105000 means...105000÷1700+1700+1700+1700+1700(3) = 8.8235294118 for all except health which costs  26.4705882353. Most druggers dont use drugs at this rate . But even if they earn enough to cover it. Most druggers spend  35 cry per minute.

The free drugs that tankers receive is plenty enough so that they only need to use a few hundred crystals daily worth of drugs.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Well, after reading the post that you replied to, you probably still don't get what I meant. Let me reiterate.

 

Supplies are very powerful bonuses, and in my opinion, should only be acquired by driving to a supply drop area and picking up the box off the ground. That's how I believe these powerups should be obtained, because you have to know where the drop zones are. And in order to obtain the legendary "Full Tiara", you have to drive through several active drop zones, which is rather difficult during the heat of battle. This need for map knowledge means that only the players who know the map the best will ever get full drugs activated, which is fair.

 

Drugs, (supplies activated via keyboard) negate the need for players to learn the map layout, and instead allow them to gain more than one power at once without driving through the supply zone. They can also be activated at any time, which makes them even more powerful than supply drops. This means that druggers don't need to memorize map layouts; if you wanted a candy bar, and you already had an infinite supply at your house, you wouldn't need to memorize the location of the candy store, would you?

 

I'm not simply stating "druggers are skill-less", since there are several facets to "skill" in Tanki. I'm saying "drugs severely reduce the need for map knowledge", the latter of which is an important skill. In my opinion, you should only gain a "Full Tiara" if you are a clever player who can reach several drop zones, NOT if you are a six-year-old who can count to five.

 

Now do you understand?

The nut of the business is that we dont see eye to eye on this one.

too bad. On this particular point its just diferent veiws...

Thats called being a civilization...

Unfortunatly you have the veiw that the devs and druggers dont have....

and trying to change theit mind is not going to be possible

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

I used to think that 2000mc was rude and that he was my least favorite player...

then i realized why and to who he was seeningly rude, the outcome: I agree with him and support it now

[danilo8667 234]

There is no point in discussing this topic. Developers already nerfed suplies by implementing the Smart Suplies feature. These players just won't stop complaining...

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

As for whether I am a minority or not, the popularity of this topic is a proper answer to that. There are many people that are feeling daily frustrated by drugging and some of them have already left the game or watch from away, hoping that something will change in the near future.

 

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[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

2000mc, You are one of the people being rude in chat a lot . And being told many times to stop drugging is not an excuse to behave rude. . And:while playing the best should win and not the one drugging most. Playing is suppost to be fun for every player involved and druggers dont repect that at all. That in my opinion is a lack of civilisation and manners. And you taking advantage of your money spent: well, you are right about that. Therefore i have written in forum many times they have a bad businessmodel. They chase customers away by using drugs and druggers this way. If tanki would make the druggers buying a propass to be able to join where they can drug they wouldnt chase possible customers away, You have to get and keep people interested to make them buy. And about you suggesting money should be an issue: i own 2 companies wich are doing very well. The point is that people should have a choice to play druggersbattles or not. Nobody starts playing tanki with buying crystals. One of social skills and empathy is having consideration with others. If you druggers are a minority in battles and are asked to stop you could stop or go in another battle. But you and druggers like you decide tp ruin other peoples fun. That lack of manners empathy and social skills is common amongst druggers. Just as trashtalking about family telling people to shut up, saying f u, or just start to insukt fair players in general. And btw: yo and I know you misbehaved in other ways too dont we?

 

AND: About 2 years ago there would be at least 200 k players online at any given time. A lot pf players i know have left coz the drugging became an epidemic disease. Now even in weekends there are less then 100 k players online and therefore there are a lot less battle. That is how tanki and druggers destroy tanki.

 

AND: how can you be proud of the rank you have, or the crystals you "earn"or the xp you "earn" when you have bought all of these? Like I wrote before: I own 2 well doing companies so i could buy loads of crystals and ranks, but in my opinion your skills should earn it.

Playing should be fun for every player involved. And when playing the best should win and not the one with most drugs. I own 2 companies and make a lot of money so i could buy loads of drugs to "win" Druggers dont respect everybody having fun and they obviously dont want the best to win.

 

When you ask druggers to stop drugging or just make a remark about it most druggers start calling you names or start being rude in other ways. That says enough about the mentallity and caracter of most druggers. Also druggers are less skilled coz they rely on drugs too much.

 

AND: 2 years ago at any given time there would be at least 200 k players online. A lot of players left coz the drugging got a lot worse about 18 months ago. Now even in the weekend there are not even 100 k players online. Drugs and druggers destroy tanki.

 

And about tanki existing coz people buying crystals to buy drugs: they have a pretty stupid businessmodel coz they chase their customers away. It is very easy to change some things so druggers can drug without anoying others and and so that others dont leave.

 

You're not looking for answers are you? I replied to your first post and proved you wrong and you still persist.