Reduce power of garage supplies

[Julian0925 0]

do developers care about these ideas and whole topic?

no they dont

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Oh and pls keep language clean. A single bad word can remove a whole passage..... Muhahaha hahaha

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Oh and pls keep language clean. A single bad word can remove a whole passage..... Muhahaha hahaha

Yes, quoting them also. Racist language or profanity won't be tolerated anywhere in tanki - as @DaMyAnIx found out. He got a ban for his trouble.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

do developers care about these ideas and whole topic?

What ideas?

[deadmanrising 715]

What ideas?

He's talking about if the developers care enough about this topic to reduce the power of supplies

 

Clearly their answer is no and will seem to remain that way for the time being

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

This took all day to write.

this is so long that it needs an intro.

Damyanix wrote a post that violated rules and was removed. Having swapped the words (mentioned in parenthesis) I took it in to my memo on my phone and i wrote this

 

Part 1 in mext post.

(Its just so long i cant send it at once)

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

What the fluff? Are you done circlejerking in your own pool of drugs? Cool, now let's continue this useless barking.

That wasnt me so....

 

The "hurr it is in the game so it is cool" argument is kind of, keep in mind, kind of, irrelevant. Like, it doesn't stop it from being a game-breaking mechanic. Imagine having double damage in a normal multiplayer game. Or double damage. Or double speed. It would be quite unprofessional and annoying so Tanki doesn't have many excuses (except $$$ which can be earned by plenty of other means)

Its irrelevant that drugs are engineered into the game? Ok, lets assume this and move on. You suggest that we look at another multiplayer game and do what with it? See that its not tanki? Ofc it would be unproffesional to use another game's mechanic... and hell it would be annoying because it wont fit in. Actually what you meant to say is; all other multiplayer games dont have short lived upgrades in power. That was an absurd statement as its not really true. If we try to conform to your statement and assume it true, here is my response:

I wouldnt expect every multiplayer game to be the exact same would I? Every game has its uniquness.

You state unprofessional and annoying. Lets move on to the rest of the passage for your explanation.

Other ways of earning $$$?

 

Drugs also show lack of skill. I've seen plenty of plebs who can't even turn their turret reach the #1 spot in battles. There are more skilled ones but without their drugs they would be crap. The constant usage of drugs.

Well, well, well!!! What do we have here?!!! A player who thinks he is more pro than:

starladder champions

Or me

Or AbsoluteZero

Or 2000mc

Or LadyYuna

Or Dejectedtomato

Or silverscorpion

Just because he is against drugging.

So a skill less drugger reached top? It happens when the enemy dont know how to fight him.

 

There are also a lot of kit buyers with equiptment that shouldn't be unlocked in their ranks (aye what happened to that update where you couldn't buy something that wasn't unlockable on your rank, eh tanki?). Combine that with the excessive use of drugs and ta-dam, the score for which you played so hard got spit upon, the fund got stolen.

There is nothing to really complain about this here. Anyway, this is not a problem as none buyers and none druggers can get these kits as well and as easilly.

So you basically just said to me; druggers spit on the scores of others and steal the fund.

You need a bit of clarrification here.

Mr.drugger enters. He is the ONLY drugger apparently. (At this rate it seems druggers are rare till m3 ranks)

The fund is 2054 crystals and the top player has 400 score

Mr drugger gets to top before end of battle with 709 score. He raised the battle fund by 800 just by himself.

The battle ended and the drugger received more cry but also raised fund alot.

 

Speaking of fund stealing, let's say you're in a team battle. Everybody seems to be doing fine until the big bad champ (word-flip) with a kit and plenty of drugs for everyone enters the battle. The winning team is annoyed bi him/her because their fund gets stolen. The opposing team is even more annoyed because they get beaten to oblivion. That happens a lot, you cannot deny it.

 

Their fund isnt stolen as that drugger, in order to raise to the top in a short amount of time, boosts that fund up real real high compared to what it was. For every xp he earns he puts crystals in the fund. Therefore you really dont lose much at all.

 

"Oh but you can earn them in daily missions" you will say. Oh, well. Not all players are the last rank.

Nope. But you still get free drugs. And intuitively you should know that they purposely dont give you enough so you will buy drugs. It makes total sense.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Part 2.

 

I guess that rewards increase over the ranks but let's face it, if you want to earn a lot of crystals 21 repair kits won't be enough to counter the drugging mobs. And there would be a lot of slug(drug)fests in the higher ranks, so that means more drug consumption. If you pile up the drug earnings you will end up "naked" on the battlefield, that means that you will still get rekt by drugmen. One way or another, you are still screwed, it just depends on the rate of which you get screwed. It can be slow or fast.

What will there be?!!!

You will still get rekt by drugmen?

Then the thing that makes no sense here is...

Where Are Your Team's Druggers?!!! Are druggers seeiously rare? I personally like facing druggers. But when I feel that my team has low druggers I will make the druggers face me and not the none/anti/low druggers. How will it help me to have the low druggers face the druggers and lose? To be a key member of the team you need to take on the strongest members. Unless you know you cant face them and work around them. And with that said, I dont automattically search out the druggers.... I look at many aspects which include drugs. If you have druggers in the enemy team, drug a bit and avoid them as much as possible... they arent impossible to kill... they arent even hard to kill, your team's druggers can make sure of that.

 

I forgot, if you want to earn more crystals in a short amount of time, or play with higher ranks just for the heck of it, there will still be druggers. I don't enter such battles often but when I do, I find myself in this situation occasionally. Before I used to perform good in higher-ranked matches but now with the more druggers, it is a lot harder. Like, you are put up against M2s and M3s (I don't have a problem with that) but if they drug, oh boy, even your family gets wrecked by them.

 

What to say. If you dont have the skill to take on druggers, how will you take m3-m4 druggers on? I never heard how lower ranks joining higher ranks give them more cry. I, as a none generalissimo or m3 player, didnt play vs any tanker 3 or 4 ranks higher (usually. I did sometimes just to get rekt for fun). I got plenty of crystals. I remember being captain rank and earning 80k in one day on a certain day (my usual was 10k+ a day. My friend currently earns 10k+ a day and he has 0 health kits in garage except daily mission rewards.). I used DA everytime I sensed i'll get shot and I used repair but I totally wasnt a hard drugger. I didnt buy kits back then.

 

Taking in consideration that, when you search for a battle you usually want to be on the winning side or at least be in an even match. Combine that with the ranks that you will be put up against and the maps that you prefer using with your combination, there aren't many options.

Well... I dont know what you expected from us by saying this

If you go in a low-ranked match there is still a chance to get shrecked to hell by premfags with kits and druggies. The time of the battle is also considerable, not all of us want to fight in 60-minute matches to earn a lot of crystals. A 15 min battle on Polygon with higher-ranked players can earn you plenty of cash, contrary to the same map but with lower ranks. So, there is a lot to think, talk and argue about.

Wait wait wait !!!!!!

You get rekt by higher ranks and lower ranks? And you say druggers are skill less.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

 

 

Here are some pictures.

 

 

 

You can see, the high ranks are dominating the match. Some of them even drug, which proves my point.

 

 

No, I dont see this in the picture.  A major in 2nd place and a 1st.lt in third place and a major general at fourth place is not what I call higher ranks dominating the battle.

 

 

 

 

Here we see an M2 Viking with M3 Thunder. He was drugging and it wasn't so fair. Keep in mind, I don't have anything against M2s and M3s, I know that I must fight against them, but if they are drugging... against m1s...

 

 

Why were you using m1!!! Omg noob

You so totally dont know how to handle your crystals. You have an almost full m1 garage and 16k crystals. Its not his fault he was using m3 vs m1. By that rank you should have m2s. And about his drugging; its not like he shouldn't drug.

 

 

 

Here is an example of the battles I was rambling about a few kilometres of words ago. Most of them are full, some maps aren't suitable for my preferred combination and style of gameplay, some of them are long, some of them are full with high ranks where such scenarios happen. Nuff said.

 

Those pictures told me nothing.

It looks normal to me.

 

You got a bit carried off with the "humble" posts about your family members and jobs, jentlemen. It is irrelevant to the topic anyway.

It is indeed. How many times did he throw in that he has 2 businesses? Lots. So one time I threw my background in the business world.

 

In 41's defence, drugs are OK to be used when facing a drugger or if you're playing in an uneven match (3vs1 and etc.). I have used a lot of repair kits because of that, which is kind of annoying.

wait.... so you are going to use your drugs vs the drugger. When you kill him you will self destruct? What will you do? You are an evil tanker if you continue on killing and massacering those poor helpless none druggers that are inflicted with your poison. If everyone took this approach a battle would become a drug war in 2 seconds.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Hmm oh yea, I read RustyNail's advice and I decided to put myself in the druggers' point of view. First, there are many kinds of druggers. Those who drug to compensate for their lack of skill, those who can't drug well and those who do it for fun. Well, it may be fun to blast your enemies to smithereens but it isn't fun for them.

 

I use drugs for the same reason im m4 which is the same reason I bought m3 which is the same reason I bought m2 which is the same reason I bought m1 which is the same reason I bought m0

Which is the same reason I bought paints

Which is the same reason I joined Starladder.

To be more competitive.

A trait lots of anti druggers dont have.

Its certainly not my problem if they want to inflict my competitive behavior outcomes onthemselves without being prepared. They can drug too. Maybe not as much but enough to make a difference.

I invite challenges.

 

 Multiplayer games are like sports in some ways, they have to be fun, enjoyable and competitive. There is nothing competitive in dominating a battle like you have a fetish and ruining other players' expiriences.

 

And there is nothing competitive in being weak either. Both sides are given equal opportunities... some players are competative and use everythinh legal to their advantage.

 

 "Drugs are in the game so they should be used" well the game is wrong because of that.

If you dont like the game leave. Go play bake a cake with barbie. Nothing competitive there. Go play a multiplayer survival game.... not a competitive game.

There are also steroids, but are they used in sports? I don't think so, they give an unfair advantage.

No they are not used in sports. Thats what you wanted to know? Go search it. Dont ask in the middle of a long post about supplies in a supplies topic.

There is no comparison

 

 After all, this is a game, games should be fun and playable for everybody, not just for the selected few. I don't need to say anything about those who lack skill and use drugs to cover it up, it is obvious. The drugger noobs can be countered easily but the chance is 50/50 (at least for me) but they still end up on top  of the chain because other players can't deal with them accordingly.

are you admiting you are noob here? And being noob makes you not have fun in a competitive game?

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

I don't believe that paying monthly for playing something that should be compulsory, matches based on skill rather than who has a deeper wallet, has to exist.

good. Neither do I.

 

5K isn't that big of a deal but for some plebs it is, they could be invested in much better places, upgrades and equiptment, or a few drugs for an ocassional fun drug war, not the constant slug fests of drug orgies that happen every-so-often

You arn't one to talk about smart investing with ur garage.

And now you admit that druggers ruin the game "every-so-often"

 

At the end of the day as I like to say, everybody will "bark" about their own things, most druggers won't manage to comprehend any of the above paragraphs, they would still want proof that something is unbalanced and etc. This is a huge problem that needs to be fixed, many people have given good examples and suggestions. If you call this "whining" you are a bit right, we have the right to whine for such puppy-pee (not oroginal word) But it is not just pointless whining. We have a point that needs to be adressed, the inbalance in the game. That is a serious problem, if you, the druggers, think that this is pointless whining and complaining about useless stuff, check yourselves

I check myself alot.

What is the availability of free crystals? Very available

What is the availability of free drugs?

Available

How many players want drugless battles?

The minority

How many m3 players drug?

The majority

Just a few of the many questions I looked into to.

 

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Put yourself in the protesters' shoes, would it feel right if you were made a drugger's lolipop (not original word written by author) during the course of a match? Or one of multiple druggers

I cant sympathise with someone who seems to put himself in this situation

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Now at the end of his post he wrote that he doubted we will read it.

well. A responce to every in and out.

Pls pls pls give feed back

 

Moving on

[AlphaNinjaGirl 537]

And now you admit that druggers ruin the game "every-so-often"

Yes, druggers tend to pop up every so often... which means druggers are the minority. Genius. -.-

 

The fact of the matter is, one drugger can ruin a game for 20 people or more. The winning team will be frustrated that they can't get any kills, or that the enemy team is leaving; the enemy team will be frustrated that they can't go out of spawn without being instantly killed with drugs.

 

The only person having fun is the drugger.

[BLASTER872 1,892]

Yes, druggers tend to pop up every so often... which means druggers are the minority. Genius. -.-

 

The fact of the matter is, one drugger can ruin a game for 20 people or more. The winning team will be frustrated that they can't get any kills, or that the enemy team is leaving; the enemy team will be frustrated that they can't go out of spawn without being instantly killed with drugs.

 

The only person having fun is the drugger.

I think drugs should be nerfed, but won't do a thing -.- Devs earning MONEY

So devs are also having fun.

I can't blame them, they are a COMPANY, after all.

[BLASTER872 1,892]

This is the typical rude garbage I expect to read from you in this thread....quite ironic coming from the person that wrote ”2000mc, You are one of the people being rude in chat a lot” ...hmm!!

 

I'm speaking from experience, like I said, I've played against druggers that haven't got a clue what they're doing in battle, they drug like hell and still get owned. If you haven't noticed these guys yet, then presumably you are still getting hammered too much by these low-skill druggers to recognize it.

"Hammering"... Hammer + Drugs is sooo painful...

[BLASTER872 1,892]

A_R_A_KE_Y_E_N,

You didnt respond to my mail, but i will post a part of it here again.This part explains why druggers and tanki detsroy tanki and are dumb.

 

And as far as the businessmodel tanki is using: i also wrote how that is a bad model. I also explained how they can keep their ( possible ) customers instead of chasing them away by the way they exploid the drugs and druggers.

 

Druggers are a problem coz they make others leave a lot. I explained in my previous mail how i know about this. I also explained how tanki can make a lot more money., but i will explain a small part again: make druggers buy the pro-pass to make it possible for them to drug. That way players who start wont leave so they can become buyers and therefore druggers. Nobody who starts playing tanki will start buying so you have to keep them interested by letting them have fun that is not ruined by druggers.The most stupid thing a business can do is chase ( possible ) cunstomers away AQnd tanki does just that

 

And: plaing is suppost to be fun for every player involved. The best should win, and druggers and tanki ruin that.

Bro, the best is the F2P drugger who SAVE THEIR STUFF, and buy kitss which make them have DRUGGS. For example, I have a few thousand of each drug.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Yes, druggers tend to pop up every so often... which means druggers are the minority. Genius. -.-

 

The fact of the matter is, one drugger can ruin a game for 20 people or more. The winning team will be frustrated that they can't get any kills, or that the enemy team is leaving; the enemy team will be frustrated that they can't go out of spawn without being instantly killed with drugs.

 

The only person having fun is the drugger.

Wow, then you guys play reaĺly bad if one drugger ruins it. So weak.

and apparently at your rank drugging is a not a problem and the drugs you get in missions is by far enough. Problem solved.

By personal experiences the m3 ranks drug. So poof automatically players drug once thier m3?

Drugging would be a problem if 30-40% drugged, not 1-5%!!!!

(Statistics provided by anti druggers)

Im happy to announce !!!!! That generealissimo are 70+% druggers :) so you had better stop ranking up

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

"Hammering"... Hammer + Drugs is sooo painful...

not against me.

[viratno2 146]

Wow, then you guys play reaĺly bad if one drugger ruins it. So weak.

and apparently at your rank drugging is a not a problem and the drugs you get in missions is by far enough. Problem solved.

By personal experiences the m3 ranks drug. So poof automatically players drug once thier m3?

Drugging would be a problem if 30-40% drugged, not 1-5%!!!!

(Statistics provided by anti druggers) ( edited by viratno2- the answer to this is in the other quote)

Im happy to announce !!!!! That generealissimo are 70+% druggers :) so you had better stop ranking up

So, if you can't battle a Viking and Thunder with 1-5 on all the time and has 100% more armor, power and has 30% more speed and mines, and to top it all, has a repair kit which heals him completely and gives him invincibility for 3 seconds, then you are weak? This is literally Dark Souls 3 type of attitude. Well, about the missions, in the higher ranks you get enough supplies to combat against druggers, but in the medium to lower ranks the amount of drugs given is not enough against supply and kit buyers. The toughest part, however, is when a raiding party joins, stealing the fund with kits and drugs. 

 

 

 

The fact of the matter is, one drugger can ruin a game for 20 people or more. The winning team will be frustrated that they can't get any kills, or that the enemy team is leaving; the enemy team will be frustrated that they can't go out of spawn without being instantly killed with drugs.

 

 

Well, the generalissimos are more or less the minority due to the effort it takes to reach that rank. They are obviously constant supply users as they have finished the game, and now are obviously bored as the game has nothing more to offer to them, leaving maxing out equipment, gold boxes and PRO battles with friends.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

So, if you can't battle a Viking and Thunder with 1-5 on all the time and has 100% more armor, power and has 30% more speed and mines, and to top it all, has a repair kit which heals him completely and gives him invincibility for 3 seconds, then you are weak? This is literally Dark Souls 3 type of attitude. Well, about the missions, in the higher ranks you get enough supplies to combat against druggers, but in the medium to lower ranks the amount of drugs given is not enough against supply and kit buyers. The toughest part, however, is when a raiding party joins, stealing the fund with kits and drugs.

 

 

Well, the generalissimos are more or less the minority due to the effort it takes to reach that rank. They are obviously constant supply users as they have finished the game, and now are obviously bored as the game has nothing more to offer to them, leaving maxing out equipment, gold boxes and PRO battles with friends.

I know very well how much a drugger can drug and its advantages. You drug a none speed drug every 3.157 minutes average. Meaning you dont drug.

You drug speed once a minute.

You may have experience going against a drugger but you are an entire team. Just accept the challenge. I have met 3 raid parties in my career. One of them earned me 3 friends.

 

 

I was in a serpuhov 3 vs 4.

It was me with 3 noobs (majors and major generals) and him with 2 noobs (he had a 4 star).

We started playing but the enemy generalissimo was getting mad; He said it was unfair. Howevert that didnt stop me from playing without capping.

He got angry and we argued really bad. I could have banned him for good. To get at me he invited his friends.

The outcome was one of the worst you can face.

within a few minutes it was me+ 5 noobs ( none were above 4 stars) vs 7 drugging generalissimos working as a team.

They were kicking but I didnt run, I didnt complain, and I certainly didnt mind.

I finished the battle with a huge lead in score among both teams and I friended 3 of them.

they capped 7 flags and I capped 2 flags.

Im not the one to sympathise an entire team vs a drugger. Or even 2 teams versus a drugger.

Here is one for you:

From lt.Colonel to field marshal my favorite games were 4 vs me hill ctf. I craved those battles. They gave me so much xp. Also it was fun. Especially in cases where you manage to finish off a 20 minute battle with the score 5-0. Them 5 flags me 0; thats how little they managed to cap. When someone joined I would beg them to leave.

I expect anti druggers to atleast give themselves the little challenge of facing one drugger every 20 players at most.

 

Oh and BTW,

Generalissimos are not a minority. Its not hard to get up here.

 

 

I hope you dont think that I never meet the bellow situation:

When my drugs run out, I meet a tanker who has paint against me, a turret thats not in my paint, and full drugs.

what do I do? Avoid him. How? A tanker who is protected from him in paint, a tanker that has a turret hes not protected from, and a tanker that has drugs to spare (you know.. the ones tanki gives for free).

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

Have you heard about the russian army? The red army? Stalin?

 

Thats the russian generalissimos. And the russians have so many Generalissomo

[MentallyDeranged 740]

omg topic is turning on to be newspaper topic :P

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

omg topic is turning on to be newspaper topic :P

long posts heh?

Might gather all i wrote and create a misconceptions anti-druggers

[DaMyAnIx 107]

Have you heard about the russian army? The red army? Stalin?

 

Thats the russian generalissimos. And the russians have so many Generalissomo

Russia didn't and currently doesn't have any generalissimos. The Soviet Union had though, Stalin. The Russian Empire also had 2. How is that "so many"? 

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

If you were to compare russian players to english:

Most english = pudding

russians = red army stalin hardcore