Reduce power of garage supplies

[kayitsiz 621]

Do you have an exact date and do you have any mods that can back up that statement?

The picture I put was from that day..  :mellow:

 

It writes 9,5,2015 

We can check archive

 

EDİT: Anyway I did 

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=261572

[dan146_tanker 770]

The picture I put was from that day..  :mellow:

 

It writes 9,5,2015 

We can check archive

 

EDİT: Anyway I did 

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=261572

Thank You for the link.

 

 

 

I think some people might disagree supplies were good though...

 

Its not just me who thinks supplies are bad....

[kayitsiz 621]

Thank You for the link.

 

 

 

I think some people might disagree supplies were good though...

 

Its not just me who thinks supplies are bad....

Yea, I totally remember why they think that way

And that parkour modes, god...

 

I am trying to play non-drug battles as I prefer them and I find drugs itself annoying, not just because they are for buyers from some logic. I guess many will agree that.

 

We need something better than free supplies..

[dan146_tanker 770]

Yea, I totally remember why they think that way

And that parkour modes, god...

 

I am trying to play non-drug battles as I prefer them and I find drugs itself annoying, not just because they are for buyers from some logic. I guess many will agree that.

 

We need something better than free supplies..

Well with that I agree. If anything supplies should cost more not less.

[basenji7 1,199]

Well with that I agree. If anything supplies should cost more not less.

No then no one can compete with buyers

 

We just need it to be easier to access non-drugging battles that's all

[AlphaNinjaGirl 537]

You're this kind of player who reaches Generalissimo with 10 M1/M2 equipments and wonders why she can't manage to destroy a M3/M4 combo...

I love how you can't do anything other than jump to conclusions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

As a matter of fact, I'm planning on playing Isida/Wasp until I'm Generalissimo. I only MU'd my Wasp to stay competitive in the mid-ranks, instead of having to buy an M2 Hornet that I'll never use. And as of right now, I am saving up to buy an M3 kit.

 

So really, don't assume things. It makes an ass out of u and me. :P

As a matter of fact, I'm planning on playing Isida/Wasp until I'm Generalissimo. I only MU'd my Wasp to stay competitive in the mid-ranks, instead of having to buy an M2 Hornet that I'll never use. And as of right now, I am saving up to buy an M3 kit.

 

So really, don't assume things. It makes an ass out of u and me. :P

[Metaphor 538]

I love how you can't do anything other than jump to conclusions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

As a matter of fact, I'm planning on playing Isida/Wasp until I'm Generalissimo. I only MU'd my Wasp to stay competitive in the mid-ranks, instead of having to buy an M2 Hornet that I'll never use. And as of right now, I am saving up to buy an M3 kit.

 

So really, don't assume things. It makes an ass out of u and me. :P

As a matter of fact, I'm planning on playing Isida/Wasp until I'm Generalissimo. I only MU'd my Wasp to stay competitive in the mid-ranks, instead of having to buy an M2 Hornet that I'll never use. And as of right now, I am saving up to buy an M3 kit.

 

So really, don't assume things. It makes an ass out of u and me. :P

I use this phrase all the time :lol:

[Bydo 20,141]

I love how you can't do anything other than jump to conclusions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

As a matter of fact, I'm planning on playing Isida/Wasp until I'm Generalissimo. I only MU'd my Wasp to stay competitive in the mid-ranks, instead of having to buy an M2 Hornet that I'll never use. And as of right now, I am saving up to buy an M3 kit.

 

So really, don't assume things. It makes an ass out of u and me. :P

As a matter of fact, I'm planning on playing Isida/Wasp until I'm Generalissimo. I only MU'd my Wasp to stay competitive in the mid-ranks, instead of having to buy an M2 Hornet that I'll never use. And as of right now, I am saving up to buy an M3 kit.

 

So really, don't assume things. It makes an ass out of u and me. :P

ok for one there is nothing wrong with sticking to one set up all the time when your playing.. i have done it from day one and would not give my Ricochet or Hornet away.. for stop using Insida when your a gizmo to me i would think twice on this due to the experience level and also others use insida more now when your gizmo.. i have seen insida's be way better then rico or fire / freeze .. they keep changing things up and you never know what will be good one day will be garbage the next time around .. but to me stay with the one you like the most and forget about what others say.. some people are good at one thing when others are still experimenting ...

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Wasp M1 MUs..

 

 

Well an M2 wasp is one of the latest M2 hulls to unlock; while the M1 wasp sucks really bad against early unlocked M2 turrets.

Wasp M1 is one of the few hulls where microupgrades truly make sense if you love the gameplay with it; although I would not have gone the whole way.

The only way around this (inbalanced) issue is the Mosquito kit, that unlocks Wasp M2 early, provides a nice Rail M2 and enables players to participate in true XP/BP..

 

 

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The free supply pass in 2015..

 

 

I remember that day with free supplies; where players could purchase a "free supply pass" for next to nothing.. and then drug full 24h.

It was another useless "test", as the testperiod was way to short.

Of course most players used all the drugs they could activate; not realizing that the fund-raise-per-timeperiod went down.. (tanks die less often if drugs are freely available - we have 2x defenseive drugs (DA and HK) and only one offensive drug (DD). )

 

 

 

But I still think "free supplies" solve a lot of problems -> as I think they will boost drug free battles.

Why?

 

 

 

1) Sattisfaction in this game comes from winning and killing; and from inhibiting the enemy to archieve something (I alwys love it to rush in, in order to block enemys focused fire on the flagrunner with my little wasp.. that lasts exactly long enough to make the flagrunner leave :) ).

Less kills -> less fun. Less fun -> less battles with everyone on free drugs -> more drug free battles.

 

 

2) Players will take some time.. but soon they will realise, that the fund will raise slower, as tanks die less often.

The players will realise that they can earn more "crystals per timeunit" in drug free battles, as the fund raises faster. Time and crystals are the two most limiting/limited factors in this game; therefore a good "crystals earned per time" ratio is important.. almost as important as the "crystals per experiencepoints" ratio (see that premium users are willing to pay real money to increase both! ).

 

Drugs really do pay off today, if the enemy is drugging less then you. As soon as the drug usage is leveled out, it must feel somehow "slow" to raise a fund, and get enough crystals to unlock new gear. Todays pro-druggers will have their drug-skill advantage; but others will catch up fast.

 

Today a game of CP XP/BP on small but crowded maps (aka Polygon..) is one of the fastest ways to earn crystals - just as tanks die so often.

 

 

 

But of course.. it will take some time, until the players realize what free drugs will do to their earnings per hour.

Up to then, everyone will be as happy about free drugs, just as they have been happy about those score multiplyer passes (that for most players worked out to be like handing out a full loaded gun to a small kid -> yey - power - i rank fast !   Oh damn.. I am broke crystal wise -.-)

 

Not everything that looks great turns out to be usefull in the end.

[AlphaNinjaGirl 537]

You have written twice the same words lol

Hm, true. Why not tell me how many more times I have to say it before you actually listen? It'd save us both time. ;)

 

Well an M2 wasp is one of the latest M2 hulls to unlock; while the M1 wasp sucks really bad against early unlocked M2 turrets.

 

 

Exactly. In my opinion, if you're going to go full light-hull, go all the way. Hornet moves just a bit too slow, is way bigger of a target, and drifts too much for me to use, so Wasp was the perfect hull for me. However, with only 95 health points, Wasp M1 could easily be two-shot by a Thunder, or one-shot by an M2 Rail, so I had to upgrade it to stay competitive.

 

Back in the day, MU's were a lot cheaper, since I was only really upgrading my Wasp's health (it was before the MU update), and cost me about 50,000 crystals to get up to 42 upgrades. When the MU update hit, my Wasp received the full 42 upgrades for all parameters, and I was like "well crap, may as well finish it up".

 

To put things into perspective, while I may have spent a LOT more than what Wasp M2 is worth, I basically unlocked Wasp M2 at First Lieutenant, which allows me to remain competitive even when fighting higher ranks, as well as save up crystals now. If I hadn't MU'd, I would have had to buy Hornet M2 or save up to buy Wasp whenever I get to Colonel.

 

As for the Mosquito kit, that didn't come out until I was 48 upgrades in, and by then, finishing the MU's was way cheaper than buying the kit. I don't use Railgun very much anyway, so that wasn't really appealing to me.

 

 

[The-Operator219 1,929]

The idea is not to stop drugging as a whole. If I were to choose how drugs were to work in this game, I'd make it possible for anyone to use them as much as they want BUT nerf repair kit and make it weaker, so that it doesn't make tanks live as long, because at the moment it's extremely annoying where you spend ages fighting against a heavy tank and then they just use a repair kit and all your efforts are basically in vain. It also causes funds to be lower as tanks die less often.

^^

This. That'd be fine.

[catman264 2]

drugs have ruined this game... I remember this game like 2 years ago and only like 34% of players from major to WO1 were full blown Druggers... now its gone up to like literally 79% for WO1-WO5 and Majors don't join the battles for my rank and below because they will always lose the battles .... they just join in lower battles with LT's... I had like straight m1's when I was a major no upgrades and I didn't know how to drug but my K/D was 1.01... its called some players use there brains... instead of buttons.... (and that's why I went to world of tanks) (just saying...)

[basenji7 1,199]

drugs have ruined this game... I remember this game like 2 years ago and only like 34% of players from major to WO1 were full blown Druggers... now its gone up to like literally 79% for WO1-WO5 and Majors don't join the battles for my rank and below because they will always lose the battles .... they just join in lower battles with LT's... I had like straight m1's when I was a major no upgrades and I didn't know how to drug but my K/D was 1.01... its called some players use there brains... instead of buttons.... (and that's why I went to world of tanks) (just saying...)

Most people don't drug at my rank...and if they do it's moderate and quite easy to handle. 

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

Update!

 

Large supply kits can only be brought with real cash.. Do you think this is a movement to reduce drugging? Or increase the powergap in between ranks?

[basenji7 1,199]

Update!

 

Large supply kits can only be brought with real cash.. Do you think this is a movement to reduce drugging? Or increase the powergap in between ranks?

They may be TRYING to reduce drugging, but it's just gonna make buyers more OP (or technically free players more UP)

 

And also now it costs less (I assume) for buyers to buy kits (costs less money to buy kit directly than it does to buy crys then kits). So they'll have more equipment. It's nice that tanki's creating money drains like paints and alterations but it's not gonna help if they make buyers have more power and free players less at the same time. 

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

They may be TRYING to reduce drugging, but it's just gonna make buyers more OP (or technically free players more UP)

 

And also now it costs less (I assume) for buyers to buy kits (costs less money to buy kit directly than it does to buy crys then kits). So they'll have more equipment. It's nice that tanki's creating money drains like paints and alterations but it's not gonna help if they make buyers have more power and free players less at the same time. 

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

This game is a complete joke..they don't care about anything other than making money. They haven't thought at all about game balance or reducing supplies usage, just money...they made a number of idiotic costly mistakes in the former years of this game...now they want to claw back as much as they can from the current users before they scud this game and try to force people over to tankiX...

Then in TX, they screw you over again. Aside from pretty graphics, its the same thing like garage TO, just with wrapping paper...

[kayitsiz 621]

As a spectator of this topic, I wonder player 2000mc's reaction. Every suggestion and contribution he did has gone in trash. :/

 

Damn, I was almast ready to listen him for good.

[catman264 2]

basen  guess what when buyer noobs come out and there rail hornet m2's and your m1's guess what you lose... :) I was in a match 4 - 0 and by the end it was 5 - 9 complete ruined matched by noob drugger buyer and I'm not talking about 1 drugger I'm talking about like half the team drugging for WO1-WO5 match soooo that's so bull crap if you ask me which is y I barely ever play this game more then 30 mins because all this nonsense going on with drugs :D #youruinedgame <---- lol I don't even know if that's a hashtag or not XD

[Metaphor 538]

basen  guess what when buyer noobs come out and there rail hornet m2's and your m1's guess what you lose... :) I was in a match 4 - 0 and by the end it was 5 - 9 complete ruined matched by noob drugger buyer and I'm not talking about 1 drugger I'm talking about like half the team drugging for WO1-WO5 match soooo that's so bull crap if you ask me which is y I barely ever play this game more then 30 mins because all this nonsense going on with drugs :D #youruinedgame <---- lol I don't even know if that's a hashtag or not XD

Triggered...jk, I agree :D

[basenji7 1,199]

basen  

Are you talking to me? I don't think I know who you are sorry... :huh:

 

Guess what when buyer noobs come out and there rail hornet m2's and your m1's guess what you lose... :) I was in a match 4 - 0 and by the end it was 5 - 9 complete ruined matched by noob drugger buyer and I'm not talking about 1 drugger I'm talking about like half the team drugging for WO1-WO5 match soooo that's so bull crap if you ask me which is y I barely ever play this game more then 30 mins because all this nonsense going on with drugs :D #youruinedgame <---- lol I don't even know if that's a hashtag or not XD

I mean I can beat XP M2 in smaller maps (my comfort zone)...But yeah, it's annoying when too many people drug. Most people (at my rank) don't really drug hardcore, so when enough people on one team do and the other team doesn't really they usually win.  ;)

[BLASTER872 1,892]

^ Hunter Twins must help.

 

And you know what?

 

Alterations was for buyers. Regular people have to save crystals for equipment.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

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[DaMyAnIx 107]

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I agree with everything you say. I am 15 and I still realize how Tanki are making fools out of their players. One must just think about it, it is obvious lol.

[dan146_tanker 770]

Just give up no one cares... I know I shouldn't be saying this but its the truth, Tanki just wants money nothing else. Have they ever asked how we like the game? Have they ever done a good update that doesn't include paying more? They haven't even judged this topic just ignored it. Supplies should be reduced but they won't reduce it cause they want money. While we argue are heads off their probably on a beach relaxing with no care about us or what we think. Just give up Tanki isn't gonna change... no point of trying Tanki X I mean the creators of Tanki made it so its not gonna be such a good game.... If Tanki really cared they'd put a limitation on supplies but they don't... they just make them easier to get. So no point of arguing anymore nothing is going to change. They even made XT equipment for buyers.. No point its all over. Just go to World Of Tanks, they have better graphics voice chat (optional) and no supplies. More weapons and you can destroy the houses. So World Of Tanks is much better.