Reduce power of garage supplies

[Gabe2607 499]

The only reason you oppose it because you enjoy your advantage and don't want other players to reach the same level as you. How selfish.

Nah... now he will post his Doctor Prescription: take 16 of this every 15 minutes, 23 of these every 30 minutes, 10 of these every 10 minutes...

 

Check the following video. It is made by a nice kid, drugger but non buyer (according to him). He is also an ok player. But check the reaction when, trying to escape with a flag, gets killed and says: "they hate me because I drug. They are jealous!". He just reminded me someone else... Never shoot druggers, as they get angry if they die! :D

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yug-u4l_01g

 

(Hope the link works because I am super noob in these things :) )

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

I guessed.

 

Can you give examples of the games you encountered that fall into the 3 categories you mention please? I suspect you're guessing again. WoT for example, which is growing and growing. But I assume you want fresh proof.  Phantom Forces is a game that was released about two weeks ago, with no advantage to buyers except getting some more powerful guns early and some special skins. And it's growing by leaps and bounds. I also said that the games that give too little advantage to buyers die slowly, which means I haven't a specific example for that exact reason. However, it's common sense.

 

The vast majority? How many players are we talking about here? Do you have any of their goodbye topics for me to read? Most users aren't even active on the forum, let alone think about making a whole topic for themselves when they leave, unless they're quite famous.

 

The truth is tanki have introduced plenty of measures curbing supplies and the popularity of these seems to be increasing because I'm seeing more and more battles with power advantages disabled.  

 

But for some reasons I can't fathom, some players who don't use their supplies that much keep coming back here to complain about not being able compete in supplies enabled battles. It's the same old people, posting 100's of times making it seem like a bigger problem than it truly is. Why do they subject themselves to punishment in battles where supplies are enabled, knowing perfectly well they won't use many of theirs in return? Why?  Oh Please. We've already covered this thousands of times, worn over it like a Roman Road. At least bring up fresh arguments please.

 

I can only conclude that some players like being punished and enjoy moaning about it afterwards. Oh, you think I like being punished and enjoy complaining? The lack of logic is strong in this one.

[ghost-guns 1,486]

Double damage and double armor should be reduced to +50% IMO. Just rename them "power ups" or something.

[Lankero 595]

 

 

The only reason you oppose it because you enjoy your advantage and don't want other players to reach the same level as you. How selfish.

:lol: Pretty childish thinking I must say. We don't oppose it because we don't want others to reach the same level as us :lol: We oppose it because we personally don't like it. And even with the current situation anyone who knows how to manage their wallet well can succeed in this game very well. 

 

 

 

 

Thank you for your reply. Now, as you stated, I would like to inform everyone who does not like how the Tanki game works that:

 

 

QUIT TANKI IF U DONT LIKE IT!!! THERE ARE WAAAAY BETTER GAMES THAN TANKI LIKE WORLD OF TANKS AND WAR THUNDER! CHECK THEM OUT NOW!!!

 

 

 

And I have clearly checked out the rules of the game, and saying this is not against it:

 

 

I am not worsening the image, I am just telling the truth as an option. And I doubt it will have an influence to the Game's development.

2.3.3. Performance of any actions that have a negative influence on the Game’s development and image;

And guys, this rule is hilarious:

 

 

2.3.17. Publication of information that causes fear, horror or panic in children, including pictures or descriptions of death, diseases, suicide, accidents, emergencies or disasters and (or) their consequences, other information that may damage health or development of minors;

 

 

 

 

And earlier you called me childish........ And did anyone say you're breaking the rules....? Eh, might of missed it. And that 2.3.17 I assume refers to materials that are violent or sexual = not good content for kids. Basically same as the movie ratings. I assume, feel free to correct me. 

 

 

 

 

 

I am playing this game from 5 years . I had been seen many changes . This game already changed ,earning crystals , daily gifts , discounts on holidsays , pro battle pass , everything   have been balanced today between buyers and non buyers, thats why we are happy but only called supplies that is not balanced between non buyers and buyers. Supplies have over powered too much . But cooldown is okay . Non buyers got supplies is not sufficient for fighting against a hardcore drugger ( who all time rapidly drugging in battle ) . Even he will be equal of 4 or 5 ordinary nonbuyers . How a ondinary nonbuyer team  will be fight against a team who has a one or two druggers . So supplies must be reduces his powered then maybe a buyer become a equal of 2 or 3 nonbuyers . With money also advantage but enemy team can hard fight with skills for make a equal battle .

 

By the way dont show me pro battle pass, that I know it . But all players want to play also in ordinary battles .

 

I played many free to play action games , In every game there had been huge pay to win format before 2011 . But they were changed after day by day. Now this days in all free to play games have been paying system, but there has slightly advatage .  not totally advantage like if you pay then you will definately won . In Tanki Online a noob supplies users can be a play maker and win easily against 2 or 3  huge skill players . That's not fair, so supplies must be very high prices for buyers, and can use it limited numbers of each supplies in a single battle  or it should be reduces his powered . L

Loooooool I am sure there is a lot of other things that are very unbalanced between the buyers and non-buyers (Just ask any non-drugger here) :lol: I am sure you've all heard of Premium also. And after playing this game for a long time I guess there are some people that think even M4s are unbalanced :lol: :lol: :lol:                                                                       If you didn't hear the sarcasm in that let me make this clear for you: the last part was a joke

 

IMO the drugs aren't too expensive if you know how to manage your wallet, but I must admit removing that 1 500 drug kit made it harder. 

 

 

 

 

Speaking of moaning about things (and I'm speaking to DejectedTomato, 2000mc, and any other druggers who are debating as well here)...

This topic was created as a place to share ideas about an imbalance that many players see in the game. Since you are obviously disturbed by this (possibly because you actually fear an update would change your preferred ingame strategy), you attempt to dissuade people from sharing their opinions by insulting non-druggers, mindless trolling, image spamming, or bringing up unnecessary topics.

If you don't believe there's an imbalance, and don't believe that Tanki will ever change drugs, then you should not be worried about any updates that will harm your current mode of gameplay. It makes no logical sense that you should even have interest in this topic, since it addresses a point of view (the imbalance of drugs) that you do not share.
The only reason I can assume you're even hanging around is because you somehow attain pleasure (sexual or otherwise) from attempting to disband a group of people who share an opinion contrary to your own... and that's just sick.

Am I right lads or am I right lads?

If we are truly "hopeless" in our endeavor to get drugs nerfed, you have no reason to post on this topic. I advise taking your banter to "Let's Discuss Supplies!" instead and continue to wail there.

I personally have nothing against a WELL DONE change in the drugs, and I dare to say none of the druggers here have either. And none of us have nothing against people presenting their ideas here (Unless we think theyre bad, obv). The reason druggers are here is because people just talk crap about druggers here, so we kind of come defend ourselves here :D I personally like reading good ideas to change the drugs here and discuss them. 

And none of the druggers here hate your opinion or such, they rather don't like how you act because of it. For example: calling druggers skill-less noobs and otherwise just shaming them. I hope you get my point. 

[Gabe2607 499]

@DejectedTomato how do they do that "Spoiler "Show"" thing?

 

Let me "Like this" you again ;) 

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

 

:lol: Pretty childish thinking I must say. We don't oppose it because we don't want others to reach the same level as us :lol: We oppose it because we personally don't like it. And even with the current situation anyone who knows how to manage their wallet well can succeed in this game very well. 

 

You're still kind of avoiding the point. Why do you personally not like it? Brings us back to the original question....

 

And plus, even if they do succeed, all that they get is an advantage over low-xp non-buyers and make life harder for them. It's a bad cycle.

[Lankero 595]

I maybe shouldn't os used "we" there but I personally think this system now is fine = no need to change it (Unless you were talking about a particular idea? I cba to read back there because I'm tired so if I'm wrong please tell me if you meant something else :lol:) . It's good because everyone who is smart enough can control the battlefield, and it's kinda your fault if you're dumb and can't control. 

 

 

 

And to whoever who earlier cried about buyers having advantages, don't people spend money on this game to gain advantages..? :lol: :lol:

[ll.xx.indian.xx.ll 69]

Speaking of moaning about things (and I'm speaking to DejectedTomato, 2000mc, and any other druggers who are debating as well here)...

 

This topic was created as a place to share ideas about an imbalance that many players see in the game. Since you are obviously disturbed by this (possibly because you actually fear an update would change your preferred ingame strategy), you attempt to dissuade people from sharing their opinions by insulting non-druggers, mindless trolling, image spamming, or bringing up unnecessary topics.

 

If you don't believe there's an imbalance, and don't believe that Tanki will ever change drugs, then you should not be worried about any updates that will harm your current mode of gameplay. It makes no logical sense that you should even have interest in this topic, since it addresses a point of view (the imbalance of drugs) that you do not share.

The only reason I can assume you're even hanging around is because you somehow attain pleasure (sexual or otherwise) from attempting to disband a group of people who share an opinion contrary to your own... and that's just sick.

 

Am I right lads or am I right lads?

 

If we are truly "hopeless" in our endeavor to get drugs nerfed, you have no reason to post on this topic. I advise taking your banter to "Let's Discuss Supplies!" instead and continue to wail there.

LOL, you said everythig about them . 

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

I maybe shouldn't os used "we" there but I personally think this system now is fine = no need to change it (Unless you were talking about a particular idea? I cba to read back there because I'm tired so if I'm wrong please tell me if you meant something else :lol:) . It's good because everyone who is smart enough can control the battlefield, and it's kinda your fault if you're dumb and can't control. 

 

And to whoever who earlier cried about buyers having advantages, don't people spend money on this game to gain advantages..? :lol: :lol:

1. Please don't say non-druggers are dumb, thanks.

 

2. Of course they should get an advantage. I said that multiple times. However, "an advantage" can mean a lot of different scales.

[Lankero 595]

1. Please don't say non-druggers are dumb, thanks.

 

2. Of course they should get an advantage. I said that multiple times. However, "an advantage" can mean a lot of different scales.

If you don't use an ingame mechanic that often results to your team losing makes you dumb IMO :D But you can avoid that by being smart lol

[ll.xx.indian.xx.ll 69]

The only reason you oppose it because you enjoy your advantage and don't want other players to reach the same level as you. How selfish.

ha ha ha ha ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, yes . their characters are like this type . Who want a battle there one player must be playing with a rocket launcher and other player playing with his only hand .

[ll.xx.indian.xx.ll 69]

 

I guessed.

 

Can you give examples of the games you encountered that fall into the 3 categories you mention please? I suspect you're guessing again. WoT for example, which is growing and growing. But I assume you want fresh proof.  Phantom Forces is a game that was released about two weeks ago, with no advantage to buyers except getting some more powerful guns early and some special skins. And it's growing by leaps and bounds. I also said that the games that give too little advantage to buyers die slowly, which means I haven't a specific example for that exact reason. However, it's common sense.

 

The vast majority? How many players are we talking about here? Do you have any of their goodbye topics for me to read? Most users aren't even active on the forum, let alone think about making a whole topic for themselves when they leave, unless they're quite famous.

 

The truth is tanki have introduced plenty of measures curbing supplies and the popularity of these seems to be increasing because I'm seeing more and more battles with power advantages disabled.  

 

But for some reasons I can't fathom, some players who don't use their supplies that much keep coming back here to complain about not being able compete in supplies enabled battles. It's the same old people, posting 100's of times making it seem like a bigger problem than it truly is. Why do they subject themselves to punishment in battles where supplies are enabled, knowing perfectly well they won't use many of theirs in return? Why?  Oh Please. We've already covered this thousands of times, worn over it like a Roman Road. At least bring up fresh arguments please.

 

I can only conclude that some players like being punished and enjoy moaning about it afterwards. Oh, you think I like being punished and enjoy complaining? The lack of logic is strong in this one.

 

Nice :-) That i want to tell Tanki Online Community , not need overpowerd things  in games for very few buyers . that is not good business for future . But need more and more players have to play that game and many of them will be a buyer . that is good business. Need more people , actually more people more business .

[ll.xx.indian.xx.ll 69]

nice :-)

 

I maybe shouldn't os used "we" there but I personally think this system now is fine = no need to change it (Unless you were talking about a particular idea? I cba to read back there because I'm tired so if I'm wrong please tell me if you meant something else :lol:) . It's good because everyone who is smart enough can control the battlefield, and it's kinda your fault if you're dumb and can't control. 

 

 

 

And to whoever who earlier cried about buyers having advantages, don't people spend money on this game to gain advantages..? :lol: :lol:

Advantage?!! okay how many?? huh!!! In Tanki Online Serpuhov or Rio are 10 players battle . You want that  your power is like 5 players in you?? That you actually want ..... You want to buy weapon with money  and your enemy has to be non weapon . After this battle you also win ;-)

[Lankero 595]

Advantage?!! okay how many?? huh!!! In Tanki Online Serpuhov or Rio are 10 players battle . You want that  your power is like 5 players in you?? That you actually want ..... You want to buy weapon with money  and your enemy has to be non weapon . After this battle you also win ;-)

 

Double damage or armor doubles your stats, so you only have 2 tank's power in you. And again: they're just using a ingame mechanic, that is designed for everyone to use! So why don't you drug against him? After all, drugs are available to everyone. 

 

I couldn't understand the rest of your message to be totally honest with you. My enemy has to be on weapon? OK

[Gabe2607 499]

Double damage and armor doubles your stats, so you only have 2 tank's power in you. And again: they're just using a ingame mechanic, that is designed for everyone to use! So why don't you drug against him? After all, drugs are available to everyone. 

 

I couldn't understand the rest of your message to be totally honest with you. My enemy has to be on weapon? OK

Just a couple of things...

 

1) Doubling damage and doubling armor does not make your tank "only" 2 times more powerful. Review your math and if you cannot get it, use a heal box or mine your teacher...

2) Explain the drugs available to everyone because it is the second time I read this non sense. Do you mean that Lamborghini is also available to everyone?

 

If i wasn't singled out  by a certain whiner i wouldn't have come to this topic, Besides we are allowed to post in any topic we like after all this is a discussion forum  :rolleyes:

We all know you read, as you leave traces around... :P

[ll.xx.indian.xx.ll 69]

Double damage and armor doubles your stats, so you only have 2 tank's power in you. And again: they're just using a ingame mechanic, that is designed for everyone to use! So why don't you drug against him? After all, drugs are available to everyone. 

 

I couldn't understand the rest of your message to be totally honest with you. My enemy has to be on weapon? OK

If you know hindi or bengali language then i will convince you so easily but I am little weak in english.

 

Guess two same tank in a battle , one drugger other not use any drugs . If double armour use (2 hulls in one hull) then become 2 tank, then double damage use (2 turrets in one turret) then become 4 tanks, then use repair kit . Ohhhhhhh!!... sorry that's my mistake it is 8 tank in one tank. Then also has beautiful kits , speedboost , mines , entering with many buyers friends . All is included in a huge ADVANTAGE.

[Lankero 595]

Just a couple of things...

 

1) Doubling damage and doubling armor does not make your tank "only" 2 times more powerful. Review your math and if you cannot get it, use a heal box or mine your teacher...

2) Explain the drugs available to everyone because it is the second time I read this non sense. Do you mean that Lamborghini is also available to everyone?

 

We all know you read, as you leave traces around... :P

A DA or DD doubles = 2x = 2 times more powerful :O Easy as that. 

Yes, Lamborghini is available to everyone, yet another nonsense that I read from you whiners. But yes, something being available isn't the same thing as being able to obtain it ;) There is a difference. 

 

This is the forum, everyone can read whatever they want and post whatever they want. 

[Lankero 595]

If you know hindi or bengali language then i will convince you so easily but I am little weak in english.

 

Guess two same tank in a battle , one drugger other not use any drugs . If double armour use (2 hulls in one hull) then become 2 tank, then double damage use (2 turrets in one turret) then become 4 tanks, then use repair kit . Ohhhhhhh!!... sorry that's my mistake it is 8 tank in one tank. Then also has beautiful kits , speedboost , mines , entering with many buyers friend . All is included in a huge ADVANTAGE.

As far as I know the supplies section of the garage doesn't require any special passes or such to enter? Neither does spending crystals there. 

Drugging wouldn't be a problem if people would realise to buy drugs to fight other druggers...... But nah let's cry about them using drugs on forum instead  :rolleyes:

[basenji7 1,199]

As far as I know the supplies section of the garage doesn't require any special passes or such to enter? Neither does spending crystals there. 

Drugging wouldn't be a problem if people would realise to buy drugs to fight other druggers...... But nah let's cry about them using drugs on forum instead  :rolleyes:

The issue is that (in the opinion of the people against drugs) free players are unable to both have the crystals to drug continually and to be able to stay competitive with equipment. This is no longer an issue when you have M4s but the non-druggers here clearly do not, and so they find it difficult to progress. 

 

PRO pass is a simple solution, but what I have found (idk, it may be different at higher ranks) is that most people don't bother to turn off drugs when creating battles 

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

Yes, Lamborghini is available to everyone, yet another nonsense that I read from you whiners. But yes, something being available isn't the same thing as being able to obtain it ;) There is a difference.

I want Bentley. But Tanki doesn't want to give me one :(

[Lankero 595]

I want Bentley. But Tanki doesn't want to give me one :(

You got me bro

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

So, in you are in favor of curbing excessive supply use??? My head is spinning now...

No. I made a case on your behalf because nobody here has truly made an effort or seems capable of doing so.  All complaining but no action here.  You're welcome by the way. You can apologise later if you like.

 

According to your own stats, on this topic "Reduce power of garage supplies" there are 268 posts either made by @AbsoluteZero or . Several other hundreds posts from hard core druggers. What is written on these posts? "Non druggers are whiners". "Supplies will never change".  Again and again...

 

I ask you about these 100's of posts to which your refer and this is what you come back with?

"some players who don't use their supplies that much keep coming back here to complain about not being able compete in supplies enabled battles. It's the same old people, posting 100's of times making it seem like a bigger problem than it truly is. Why do they subject themselves to punishment in battles where supplies are enabled, knowing perfectly well they won't use many of theirs in return? Why?"

This is written sympathetically. I didn't say what you accused me of which was

"Non druggers are whiners". "Supplies will never change".  Again and again...

 

You made it sound like I was calling you a whiner every post I make which couldn't be further from the truth. You do complain a lot, that much is clear and when you can't make an argument you resort to invention like what we have witnessed recently. This gets you nowhere and you making things up doesn't make me look silly.

 

 

So when mentioned "You want to convince devs to change a game mechanic. We want to let them know not everybody supports this change", to whom do you think he was referring for "We"? Did he get you wrong too?

He is correct. I am in agreement, it is true that not everybody supports a change.

 

 

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I have seen and experienced the fact that the games that give too much advantage to buyers, end up dying quickly.

WoT for example, which is growing and growing. But I assume you want fresh proof.  Phantom Forces is a game that was released about two weeks ago, with no advantage to buyers except getting some more powerful guns early and some special skins. And it's growing by leaps and bounds. I also said that the games that give too little advantage to buyers die slowly, which means I haven't a specific example for that exact reason. However, it's common sense.

So going back to your original claim which I have asked for evidence of

 

Supplies are the main reason people quit this game.

But here's the thing: I have experience in business and briefly worked for a game company. I have seen and experienced the fact that the games that give too much advantage to buyers, end up dying quickly.

You still have yet to provide reasonable examples despite saying you know of such games that die quickly or slowly due to giving too much advantage given to buyers.

 

It seems to me that you just say things because they sound good and when you're called to back up your claims you're unable to.  You have no answers, only rhetoric. But hey, what a journey you took me on! All that way and still no answers! Congrats on making me waste all that time!

 

 

But for some reasons I can't fathom, some players who don't use their supplies that much keep coming back here to complain about not being able compete in supplies enabled battles. It's the same old people, posting 100's of times making it seem like a bigger problem than it truly is. Why do they subject themselves to punishment in battles where supplies are enabled, knowing perfectly well they won't use many of theirs in return? Why?

 

I can only conclude that some players like being punished and enjoy moaning about it afterwards.

Oh Please. We've already covered this thousands of times, worn over it like a Roman Road. At least bring up fresh arguments please.

No, you've dodged and evaded this "thousand of times" and your answer to such queries are circular. I never get a reasonable answer so I'm still waiting. Until I get one, my opinion of you is that you like being punished and then to moan about it afterwards.

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

Maybe if we persuade more players to become noob buyer druggers they will  :P

Oh please, "users of Tanki Online garage supplies" not "druggers" :p

[Gabe2607 499]

A DA or DD doubles = 2x = 2 times more powerful :o Easy as that. 

Yes, Lamborghini is available to everyone, yet another nonsense that I read from you whiners. But yes, something being available isn't the same thing as being able to obtain it ;) There is a difference. 

 

This is the forum, everyone can read whatever they want and post whatever they want. 

A brain is available to everyone, but someone cannot find out how to buy it ! :P

 

As far as I know the supplies section of the garage doesn't require any special passes or such to enter? Neither does spending crystals there. 

Drugging wouldn't be a problem if people would realise to buy drugs to fight other druggers...... But nah let's cry about them using drugs on forum instead  :rolleyes:

Why do not you state your concept clearly: in your opinion money should buy the victory. OK, then ask Tanki Online to create a Button for you: 5,000 crystals to win now! Then you can press it over and over :lol:

 

The issue is that (in the opinion of the people against drugs) free players are unable to both have the crystals to drug continually and to be able to stay competitive with equipment. This is no longer an issue when you have M4s but the non-druggers here clearly do not, and so they find it difficult to progress. 

 

PRO pass is a simple solution, but what I have found (idk, it may be different at higher ranks) is that most people don't bother to turn off drugs when creating battles 

Pro pass is a possibility, hoping the number of users will keep up. But again, if you love the game you got to think to new users, without whom this game will die. And new users will not waste crystals before learning the game. In the meantime they will get annihilated by druggers and leave.

 

Players with M4s drug constantly too, Like me  :P

 

 

So you are telling me players cant be bothered to click a simple check box to turn drugs off but instead spend all this time on the forum whining? wow, just wow.....

Guess you misunderstood him/her... he/she said that players without M4 cannot drug, as they put crystals into equipment...

 

But you just had to use that "whining" thing again, didn't you? :P

[Gabe2607 499]

No. I made a case on your behalf because nobody here has truly made an effort or seems capable of doing so.  All complaining but no action here.  You're welcome by the way. You can apologise later if you like.

 

 

I ask you about these 100's of posts to which your refer and this is what you come back with?

This is written sympathetically. I didn't say what you accused me of which was

"Non druggers are whiners". "Supplies will never change".  Again and again...

 

You made it sound like I was calling you a whiner every post I make which couldn't be further from the truth. You do complain a lot, that much is clear and when you can't make an argument you resort to invention like what we have witnessed recently. This gets you nowhere and you making things up doesn't make me look silly.

 

 

He is correct. I am in agreement, it is true that not everybody supports a change.

 

 

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Now you are not in favor of reducing drug power. Before you stated... "I've done more than you have to curb excessive supply use - FACT"). Then you say you made a case on my/our behalf (in favor of non druggers? When? Where? And why if you are against?). No, yes, no, yes, no... head spinning...

 

Calling us whiners (which, at least personally, does not hurt a bit B) )... re-read my message. That part was not specifically targeted to you, but to the hundreds posts from druggers. @DejectedTomato just called us that way short time ago. does it several times at day. Your "now sympathetic" writing  was in that direction. Then you say I complain a lot, which is the same than whining... And that is without trying to make you look silly, it just looks that way naturally... :P   

 

PS.: I still love your stats, even if I am still scratching my head over those Blue Spheres in connection to drugs... :)