Reduce power of garage supplies

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

I'm saving up my supplies to use when this account gets much higher-ranked and fights M4 drugging legends, because last time I checked, high-rank gameplay includes a lot more drugging.

 

Also, I don't need the supplies now anyway to be succesful...I already finish in first place most of the time. :)

So the reason you don't use them now is not out of principle then. Good to know. Thanks.

Feel free to start using them more the higher you rank.

I won't judge...

 

 

 

...much! :ph34r:

 

 

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

So the reason you don't use them now is not out of principle then. Good to know. Thanks.

Feel free to start using them more the higher you rank.

I won't judge...

 

 

 

...much! :ph34r:

 

 

IMO the period between *when you are consistently playing with Legends without much drugs and only M3 stuff* and *when you have M4s and drugs* is the hardest (and longest)...I'll need them then. For now- why made some noobs miserable?

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Someone who consciously decides not to use their supplies in supply-enabled battles?  [..] Any takers?

 

yes, me, but not today. Will take a while, but you'll get my answer that holds my reasons.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Topping the leaderboard doesn't make you a good player. Those who give their all to bring that flag back surrounded by 10 opponents and don't care about their awful score are worth 1000 times better than those campers who spend the whole battle hidden behind a rock then brag about their stats/ratios

The score doesn't lie. If the campers have 500+ score and you have less than 100, too bad. Of course it doesn't tell the WHOLE story, like flipping opponents, blocking enemies with your tank, etc.....but it does tell a lot.  What's wrong with hiding behind a rock?  Does it go against your morality like drugging does to Gabe2607? Are you going to be that arrogant? 

 

In your mind:

 

"When I'm topping the leaderboard it means I spent my hard-earned drugs to help my useless noob team.

When I'm not topping the leaderboard it means coward players are not spending their drugs that should be spent and are being useless to the team are in first." What?

 

However, I'm not here to argue about the accuracy of the tab button and it's faults. I'm talking about the massive bloated disgusting boost drugs give, which then results in much, much higher score regardless of score, and that leads to bragging, which you seem to hate, right? ;)

[ll.xx.indian.xx.ll 69]

With the only skills, this game is funny for everybody.

With  drugs this game is funny only for druggers.

Conclusion : the druggers are selfish and monopolize the pleasure.

Sorry, I thought (stupidly ??) that this game was for a community of people who wanted to have fun together.....

ha ha ha , yeah 100% right .

[ll.xx.indian.xx.ll 69]

They all impact negatively on tanki's income. If you want an alternative way of doing things then they must be neutral or make money for Tanki. They have shareholders to answer to.

World of Tanks, War thunder , Armoured Warfare also TANK GAME like Tanki Online. They have no any over powerd things for buyers . But their much and much more players daily played thats game than tanki online , Even their incomes is more than Tanki Online. I said already more players more business.

 

They have to think of more buyers insted of very huge buyers, who randomly buying drugs and use them in battles. Many players leave this game for supplies . If more players come to play in Tanki Online, then many players of them will be become a buyer . Do you know many buyers buy crystals only for their turrets and hulls updates and only buy premium account, not for buying supplies . They are also against drugs overpowerd .

[SentinelTower 6]

Nobody says they use supplies for fun reasons. I use them to help my side win. Winning is what this game is all about otherwise why keep score?

Instead of asking for a nerf of supplies, why don't you ask tanki to stop keeping score? See how far that gets you?

 

Drugs aren't fun for the druggers' teammates either. Even if we're winning, it's immensely frustrating when there are druggers on my team, as they not only steal kills and flags that I deserved, but they give the impression that we're only winning because of drugs, not because of any actual skill. It also pretty much screws anyone who has the "finish first in a battle" mission, since the first place spot is also stolen.

 

I suppose the only fun a constant drugger brings is to himself, through killing non-druggers (which at mid ranks is basically everyone) without effort, and even that gets boring for some people after a while. Druggers make players leave battles, which frustrates both teams since the battle isn't fun anymore, and only satisfies one player.

 

Please read my posts entirely so I don't have to repeat myself.

[ll.xx.indian.xx.ll 69]

Too Picky

I've proven the case beyond all reason and found many PRO battles to suit your criteria. You are finding things that are not there.  Tell me, what constitutes too many flags (give me numbers) and what constitutes too much time? Also, which maps are not suitable for you and which ones are?

 

See where this is going? Maybe you should ask the devs to create a map called I_already_won which is 3 flags, 15 minutes, drops on & supplies off. If you're gonna be that picky, no wonder you can't find anything. The mind boggles!

 

Further, you choose supply-enabled battles over 1 or 2 flags too many and then proceed not to drug in it to the detriment of your teammates. This is borderline sabotage imo!

 

"Non-Druggers"

You say non-druggers, what is that? Someone who consciously decides not to use their supplies in supply-enabled battles? Why? Give me a reason why you choose this. I'm sure you have plenty so please answer me as to why you have decided to abstain. This goes to Gabe and all the others too. Please answer the questions.  Why do you disagree with Rusty on this? Any takers?

 

 

 

"There are occasions where using garage supplies is ok, especially when defending the flag or getting away with a flag" -- RustyNail

Here non-druggers mean non-buyers and drugger means buyers who drugs in battle randomly . No one decides not use their supplies in supply-enable battles . They want only Over-Powered must be out from supplies , so m0 not will be m3+ in low rank battle , and make a game balanced. We are not totally against of drugs "like it should  be totally removed from all battles . Actually we want it should be not Over-Powered". m0 must not be powered than m1 . 

 

 By the way , we choose this type of battle cause , only non supplies battle is boaring for playing everyday so we are playing all type of battles. and in the some tournament also used drugs so we need to practice all type of battle. I thought you got cleared .

[ll.xx.indian.xx.ll 69]

enters a battle with his 1.7 drugs/minute average. His team mates will all be around 1.0. On the other side a clan all wasting 5 drugs/minute.

 

This would not be a nuisance, but a joy I would pay to see  :P

 

PS.: I got no longer permission to enter Topic 7 reasons why I will never invest in Tanki... And you?  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I know bro , I saw him many couple of times against a clan . At that time his m4 combo looked like a m0 ....lol 

 It's a small example that I found out . I saw him many times more than wrost this video. If this will happen in every game then buy crystal is so far they all will leave  this game.

 

See this video , link is here . I hope it will be working.... 

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

I know bro , I saw him many couple of times against a clan . At that time his m4 combo looked like a m0 ....lol 

 It's a small example that I found out . I saw him many times more than wrost this video. If this will happen in every game then buy crystal is so far they all will leave  this game.

 

See this video , link is here . I hope it will be working

 

If you're laughing at these videos and mocking 2000mc thinking he is a bad player then that says more about you than it does him.  Your naivety here speaks volumes. It must be great being oblivious to your surroundings not understand what is occurring right in front of your nose. One day you might actually become competitive at the higher levels of this game and catch a glimpse into the cheating that goes on. Until then, stay happy in your little world of ignorance. :rolleyes: :huh: :blink:

[Gabe2607 499]

Then stop talking like you're a know-it-all since you proved everyone you were ignorant about most of the game mechanics and above all

 

 

 

Especially when this "other" is a free-user

On this forum is a free-user on another he tells free users to shut up.

 

To recognize a troll, does not require a know it all...

 

So because you have used supplies, you are not a non-drugger and the only person in this topic who is is @Baby_Sam

The second part is nonsense. A big drugger can also be in favour of a power reduction.

 

Therefore, you have not satisfied the question put to you. What is a non-drugger. I expected as much. Maybe you can have another stab at it.

First I wrote:

 

Just my own opinion: a non drugger is not one not using at all, but one who is in favor of a major reduction of drugs power, because they are way way too powerful in TO (again most M1 drugged have higher damage/protection than M4, without considering the health boost).

 

Then you wrote:

 

So because you have used supplies, you are not a non-drugger (???) and the only person in this topic who is is Baby_Sam

The second part is nonsense. A big drugger can also be in favour of a power reduction (I SAID THE SAME!!!).  Therefore, you have not satisfied the question put to you. What is a non-drugger. I expected as much. Maybe you can have another stab at it.

 

More later (kind of busy...)

[Lankero 595]

 

 

First off, it's rather unsettling that I'm responding to a post that 2000mc liked...

 

But to answer the question (and I'm speaking from a mid-ranker's perspective, this is simply a new account for a new combo), drugs just aren't fun. They aren't fun for the people who are getting killed because they're getting killed through no fault of their own. No amount of skill, combo, resistance module, or luck is a match for a constant drugger.

 

(And while I don't want to bring buyers into this, it's simply a fact that the majority of constant druggers in the middle ranks are buyers -- it's not like it's hidden information anyway, as several of them have Premium, some sort of kit, and a fancy paint. Free players simply don't have enough drugs to remain druggers for very long.)

 

Drugs aren't fun for the druggers' teammates either. Even if we're winning, it's immensely frustrating when there are druggers on my team, as they not only steal kills and flags that I deserved, but they give the impression that we're only winning because of drugs, not because of any actual skill. It also pretty much screws anyone who has the "finish first in a battle" mission, since the first place spot is also stolen.

 

I suppose the only fun a constant drugger brings is to himself, through killing non-druggers (which at mid ranks is basically everyone) without effort, and even that gets boring for some people after a while. Druggers make players leave battles, which frustrates both teams since the battle isn't fun anymore, and only satisfies one player.

 

And finally, the main reason that I don't drug is because of the stereotype that druggers are elitist d-bags. Which is mostly true, honestly.

 

Am I right lads, or am I right lads?

 

You are right lad.

 

I know I'm right lad!

 

 

 

Funny how you're saying that druggers "steal" everything from you :lol: He uses his drugs so he deserves to finish on the top, as simple as that. You just hate druggers so much (Just because you're unable to drug yourself) you turn everything they do to something negative :lol: 

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

 

 

 

 

 

Funny how you're saying that druggers "steal" everything from you :lol: They do. They join and take all the battle fund, making it even harder for non-druggers to catch up. He uses his drugs so he deserves to finish on the top, as simple as that.  If he used his hard-earned mission and bought drugs like 2000mc does, yes, he deserves it. If he uses drugs he bought with real money indirectly, he doesn't deserve it.  You just hate druggers so much (Just because you're unable to drug yourself) you turn everything they do to something negative :lol: because it is. It really only affects the gameplay negatively, and causes frustration to other players. Why do you drug again?

[Lankero 595]

 

Why do you drug again?

To help my team win :) And I think 2000mc already answered that question too, so why are you repeating it? 

 

It's his own drugs that he's using, no matter what way he bought them, so he if he wins by using them he deserves it. 

 

It wouldn't affect the gameplay negatively if you people would be smart enough to drug back.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

To help my team win :) And I think 2000mc already answered that question too, so why are you repeating it?   You're sure it's your team you care more about, instead of yourself?

 

It's his own drugs that he's using, no matter what way he bought them, so he if he wins by using them he deserves it.  Agreed.

 

It wouldn't affect the gameplay negatively if you people would be smart enough to drug back. Everybody does. You can't be "smart enough" to keep up.

[Lankero 595]

 

To help my team win :) And I think 2000mc already answered that question too, so why are you repeating it?   You're sure it's your team you care more about, instead of yourself?

 

It's his own drugs that he's using, no matter what way he bought them, so he if he wins by using them he deserves it.  Agreed.

 

It wouldn't affect the gameplay negatively if you people would be smart enough to drug back. Everybody does. You can't be "smart enough" to keep up.

 

Just because you hate druggers, it doesn't make them all selfish little noobs   :)

 

Me drugging to make myself win = my team wins 

Me drugging to make my team win = I win 

 

The reason why you're drugging really changes nothing. 

 

Disgareed, if you are smart enough you can keep up. Smart = know when to drug and when to save, know how to manage your wallet, and know what battles to play ;)

[Lankero 595]

...or play PRO Battles :lol:

Shhhhhhhh go away with your ideas that actually make sense  :blink:

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Just because you hate druggers, it doesn't make them all selfish little ****s. :)  I don't hate druggers at all. I hate people being selfish stuck-ups.

 

Me drugging to make myself win = my team wins 

Me drugging to make my team win = I win 

What about the other team? If they lose fairly, they're still happy after a good and well-fought game. If they lose because of huge drugging, they become frustrated and unhappy.

 

The reason why you're drugging really changes nothing.  Yes it does.  If you're drugging because you enjoy the feeling of crushing some noobs, it's wrong.  If you're drugging because the whole other team is, it's fine. :)

 

Disgareed, if you are smart enough you can keep up. Smart = know when to drug and when to save, know how to manage your wallet, and know what battles to play ;)

 

You are a buyer, you can't pretend to know what affects non-buyers and to what extent they can drug back.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Shhhhhhhh go away with your ideas that actually make sense  :blink:

It might make logical sense but has very little practical application.

 

 

 

2000mc I have a request. You do not have to adhere to it but I will ask you politely:

 

Could you stop with the "Tanki needs to make money" claims? Obviously it does. Everyone here knows that. And we can all agree that there are many other ways to make money. :)

 

AND ALSO:

 

the "non-buyers want to be as powerful as buyers" Nobody is demanding that. All the ideas are aimed at reducing supplies' power, not eliminating them. Nobody is talking about MUs, etc.   There are also many other advantages to give to buyers, and I mentioned some (MU cap, for example) when I said that there's lots of other ingenious ways to profit. :)

[Lankero 595]

 

Just because you hate druggers, it doesn't make them all selfish little ****s. :)  I don't hate druggers at all. I hate people being selfish stuck-ups.

 

Me drugging to make myself win = my team wins 

Me drugging to make my team win = I win 

What about the other team? If they lose fairly, they're still happy after a good and well-fought game. If they lose because of huge drugging, they become frustrated and unhappy.

 

The reason why you're drugging really changes nothing.  Yes it does.  If you're drugging because you enjoy the feeling of crushing some noobs, it's wrong.  If you're drugging because the whole other team is, it's fine. :)

 

Disgareed, if you are smart enough you can keep up. Smart = know when to drug and when to save, know how to manage your wallet, and know what battles to play ;)

 

You are a buyer, you can't pretend to know what affects non-buyers and to what extent they can drug back.

 

If you want to play games you need to be able to handle the losses too. And both teams should be drugging since it's an essential game mechanic, like I've said quite a few times. 

 

HERE COMES THE MORALITY 

 

I admit that I can't know exactly how it feels like, but I became a buyer when I was a high rank. But I was a drugger even at your rank. How? 

Saving crystals wisely. And I can pretend to know how it feels like to a certain extent. 

[ll.xx.indian.xx.ll 69]

 

 

What is your point? That 2000mc the noob drugger iz noob against a clan using mults? Before any hypocrite replies "how do you know they're mults?" here are the reports related to these battles
http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=320425
http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=335764

I am not talking about sabouting or mults . They are everwere and in every game . Already when I first saw those videos I knew about them they will be ban. But my point is if your team has not any mults or sabouters and you against a druggers clan team . Also you will be loose badly insted of you have 4 or 5 druggers in your team. So you cannaot do anything with your team against a clan team and we nonbuyers cannot do anything against a buyer drugger like this. Thats my point.

 

 

 

You can camp like a fat tree if our team is easily leading; I don't mind. However, if you ever keep hiding when we're under attack and need to put pressure back on the enemy, make sure not to brag about your stats and the little supplies you used nor publish videos where you're showing off about your many crystals earned because you'd look like an hypocritical proud **** in the eyes of those who do the dirty job for you and have to use a lot of their own supplies to compensate for your absence in the brawl.

 

I wish you'd see in action some player in particular, you'd immediately get my point.

 

 

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SUBHADEEP_BISWAS

 

 

S.P.A.R.T.4.N

 

Lightning78

 

trucon

 

They are true best players in Tanki Online , I know them all . They were also in clan execpt Lighting78 . They are all nonbuyers , they know how to fight against a druggers , how to support his teamates , how to difend , attack , fight in midfield. How to win.

 

I suggest you before complain on someone without drugs play in ru2 and ru1 server for 1 month then you will know how is actual tanki skill. Hiding and shooting is the best and latest strategy for Russian Tankers . All kids play In En Server.

 

 

 

If you're laughing at these videos and mocking 2000mc thinking he is a bad player then that says more about you than it does him. Your naivety here speaks volumes. It must be great being oblivious to your surroundings not understand what is occurring right in front of your nose. One day you might actually become competitive at the higher levels of this game and catch a glimpse into the cheating that goes on. Until then, stay happy in your little world of ignorance. :rolleyes: :huh: :blink:

I have 3 higher accounts . I am playing with you and your friends many times .....lol I know how you all . Only drugs can make you win front of nondruggers and already have known your level.

 

 

 

To help my team win :) And I think 2000mc already answered that question too, so why are you repeating it?

 

It's his own drugs that he's using, no matter what way he bought them, so he if he wins by using them he deserves it.

 

It wouldn't affect the gameplay negatively if you people would be smart enough to drug back.

Thats not correct answer, the correct answer is " without ***** I cant do this "

[Gabe2607 499]

 

I never asked why you don't buy supplies. I don't buy supplies for my alt either but I do use the ones I'm given for free.  1) You're scared of being labelled a hypocrite. Understandable but not enough reason. 2) You choose a handicap like in golf or horse racing to help you with your skills? Well don't get angry if I tell you it's not working out for you or the teammates you handicap by extension. 3) This is not a valid reason. You can learn to use the ones you are given for free and no more.

 

 

Why would you choose to use them when all equipment is bought and not now? What is the difference? This is getting to the crux of the matter.

 

 

And you are wrong if you think you will only be competitive for a month. I'm sure Rusty doesn't buy supplies and he uses plenty. Why can't you be like him? You can learn to spread them out. I do it too with my alt.

 

And if you're wondering about my alt where I don't buy supplies - here ya go.

@EscapeVelocity

 

 

The majority of my games using @EscapeVelocity are ctf - I never play xp/bp or any pro battles where supplies are switched off.  I'd estimate 80% of the time I join the losing side for the challenge. I'm very attack oriented. It's no fun dominating a bunch of noobs.

 

Only recently I have completed 4 chains of weekly missions and those sustain my account well. I don't always play every day, for example, I might complete 3 missions and collect one the next day and another the day after that without playing. It's a good little trick.

 

I hope you answer the question above.

I am not "scared". Just my choice. You say I "handicap" my team mates or myself: 1) in CTF I make a hell of a difference in defence (not to be confused with campers, as I am often the one recovering when this is kept on the other side); 2) in CP I am pretty good too; 3) in TDM, yes I have troubles but do not play that much, unless mission: 4) in DM I generally end 4th in a battle with 19 druggers. Would I be stronger with drugs? Of course, from double to more. But again, I could play "hardly" for a month, then drugs would be over and then?

 

Why would I chose to use drugs in future? I thought I explained it already but I try again. Till now and for another while, I could drug only for a certain short period of time before they vanish and I would have been drugging against stronger equipped tanks. Let me arrive to M4 (not far away). Then I will chose between going for a second turret/hull or eventually (this is not decided yet) start to drug in drug battles having already many in garage. Now I would drug with a good amount of skills (coming from a hard school) and with the strongest equipment out there (an M4 with which I played for thousand hours). I see it as a multistage growth.

 

I believe, without checking, that Rusty is a Legend, right? I understood recently from your buddy that from Gismo, Daily Missions allow to get many drugs, something that before does not happen.

 

You say you get enough daily drugs on your other account not being Legend. But as you pointed out you play very little (121 hours), so yes 3 missions and you are out. When I play, I play much longer than the 3 missions.

 

Hope this is an answer, because to me it is the second one  :) 

[Lankero 595]

SUBHADEEP_BISWAS

 

S.P.A.R.T.4.N

 

Lightning78

 

trucon 

 

They are true best players in Tanki Online

 

Only Spartan was a good player, rest of those were all mults with no actual skill. If you do have a video of them d3ssing some drugger nuubz please send me the link :) 

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Why, because you can't handle the fact below?

 

 

 

 

We live in a world ruled by capitalism (that's a fact, please don't assume I support it) therefore a company has to make benefits to grow and be competitive against competitors!!! Get this into your head!!!

You are still not getting it. There are many better ways for Tanki to make money, combined with the revamp of the supplies system, this would actually bring in far more profit.

 

Last time I checked it was better to have more consumers paying less than less consumers paying more. But you're too young for economics, aren't you?

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

What are these better ways? Paints, Gold Boxes and Badges? :lol: Partly. But these aren't the only ways...

 

 

Read slowly this post twice, make sure to understand correctly its meaning... THEN comment.

 

I've explained how people are much more likely to refer their friends if they are more satisfied with the game, meaning more potential customers.