Reduce power of garage supplies

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

If never change then it's a little bad for this game , if change then it will be happen more balance between buyers and nonbuyers . Thats good and developers also who want balance in Tanki Online. They actually want more players to play in Tanki Online rather than some few huge buyers . 

Yes, and if you get more non-buyers the ratio of buyer/non-buyer increases, meaning buyers experience less other buyers in the same battle. 

[idiboy 41]

Probably most of the people know, we want non-pro battles without druggers. Drugging while gold, or taking the flag? I think that's normal. Or a double damage for a battle. You can't make a battle with just some drugs allowed.

[SentinelTower 6]

Which posts? @KrystenHunt16 or @AlphaNinjaGirl or @SentinelTower.

271 of them just in this topic alone!

 

We've read your opinions and know your writing style so no need to pretend to be anyone else but if you insist on doing so, disguise your writing style better and don't like your own posts as much.

 

I don't recall claiming to be a different person... in fact, I think I've stated that this is an alt of mine before. I'm not really one to stick to the same account for posting, I just use the account that I play with the most, in which case is this one.

 

As for "disguising" my writing style, I really don't understand what you mean. My writing style has evolved over the two and a half years I've been playing;; as you mature and practice, you begin wording sentences differently, even though they carry the same meaning. I don't really see that as deceptive as much as it is natural.

 

And as for liking my own posts... so what? I also gift my main account items from my alts. It's not against the rules. :P

 

But whatever, I enjoyed the meme, that's why I'm replying. ^_^

 

On a side note, there are a lot of druggers at this rank as well. It's sad really... a lot of players seem to either pick up drugging early on, or refuse to drug and ultimately leave the game dissatisfied.

[Total_SkiIl 1,983]

I don't recall claiming to be a different person... in fact, I think I've stated that this is an alt of mine before. I'm not really one to stick to the same account for posting, I just use the account that I play with the most, in which case is this one.

 

As for "disguising" my writing style, I really don't understand what you mean. My writing style has evolved over the two and a half years I've been playing, sure, but I don't think it's been deceptive in any way.

 

And as for liking my own posts? I'm selfish, I guess. I also gift my main account items from my alts. It's not like it's against the rules or anything. If that upsets you... sue me.

 

But whatever, I enjoyed the meme, that's why I'm replying. ^_^

 

On a side note, there are a lot of druggers at this rank as well. It's sad really... a lot of players seem to either pick up drugging early on, or refuse to drug and ultimately leave the game dissatisfied.

Well, I made a new account to see how much it's difficult for someone to get few kits and drug a bit without winning a contest(s), (Name @The.Nooba) and I bought Firefly without winning any contests then I entered a contest for 10k crystals and I still got Striker kit. Faced druggers and they aren't actually hard to defeat tbh imo, if you have a good team. Mid ranks is the place where druggers are really hard to defeat ( Since most of the time a few buyers with OP M2s and supplies join the same team ).

 

Best idea so far is to make a server just for non supply enabled battles where everyone can play, Whiners can no longer whine then 

 

 

Happy New Year  :)

And maybe have a few thousands/hundred crystals fee per month?

[SentinelTower 6]

You couldnt possibly entertain charging the freeloaders a fee to go on a server dedicated to non supplies, I can here the outrage now  :P

I mean... depending on the price range, results will vary. I'd assume it'd have to be something like the PRO pass, where the price increases every rank up. If it's something reasonable like 5000 crystals, I'd be in favor of it, but if it's too high (like 200,000 crystals) it'd simply go unused.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Happy new year :)


I stopped reading here for some rasons.. but now I have a question on which the drugging players might could help me:


To the druggers:

- have you guys/girls purchased thoase 100-supplies kits during the sale?
- If yes, how much have you got.. and how long do you think they will last?
- Can you uphold a drugs-useage that suits your personal favour with such sale on supplies by using free crystals, or do they simply run out too fast?

 

I just like to get an idea of how this works now for you.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

You couldnt possibly entertain charging the freeloaders a fee to go on a server dedicated to non supplies, I can here the outrage now  :P

I personally would like to see drugs part of actual gameplay* and non-drug battles a special option. What would happen would be that all the druggers would suddenly find themselves playing only against other druggers (and this would be shocking to non-Legends).  This would kind of kill the point of having an advantage through buying.

 

But for * to happen, they would have to be nerfed in some way.

[Guest]

Happy new year :)

 

 

I stopped reading here for some rasons.. but now I have a question on which the drugging players might could help me:

 

 

To the druggers:

- have you guys/girls purchased thoase 100-supplies kits during the sale?

- If yes, how much have you got.. and how long do you think they will last?

- Can you uphold a drugs-useage that suits your personal favour with such sale on supplies by using free crystals, or do they simply run out too fast?

 

I just like to get an idea of how this works now for you.

I bought a couple of 100 supplies kit. (I already had quite a few but I wanted to push my repair kits over 1500 again :p)

At least for my rank, I drug like crazy (though I play like, once a month), so I expect them to last about 24 hours of playtime.

Battle fund alone obviously isn't enough to cover those expenses, but combined with daily missions and various contests, its more than enough.

All in all, I really liked the supplies sale. I do realise not everyone can play like I do and hence they have higher expenses, so I won't comment on the general situation. I do think that this sale has caused a significant increase in druggers (duh), but I'm yet to analyse how this affects long term budget of an average player.

[CuT_TheRe_HeaRTs_OuT 640]

i bought zero drugs in the sale i am saving for m3 kit , however i use every bit of daily mission 

Supplies as soon as they come and jump  again to pro battles as soon as they are gone, my dl is still 

Not bad.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

I bought a couple of 100 supplies kit. (I already had quite a few but I wanted to push my repair kits over 1500 again :P)

At least for my rank, I drug like crazy (though I play like, once a month), so I expect them to last about 24 hours of playtime.

Battle fund alone obviously isn't enough to cover those expenses, but combined with daily missions and various contests, its more than enough.

All in all, I really liked the supplies sale. I do realise not everyone can play like I do and hence they have higher expenses, so I won't comment on the general situation. I do think that this sale has caused a significant increase in druggers (duh), but I'm yet to analyse how this affects long term budget of an average player.

Are you talking about this account or another one because on this one, 15 supplies per hour is your average usage?

On average you use about 4½ RK's per hr so 1500 of them will last you not 24 hours of playtime but over 300.

 

 

To the druggers:

- have you guys/girls purchased thoase 100-supplies kits during the sale?

- If yes, how much have you got.. and how long do you think they will last?

- Can you uphold a drugs-useage that suits your personal favour with such sale on supplies by using free crystals, or do they simply run out too fast?

 

I just like to get an idea of how this works now for you.

 

Here are the averages I sustain when playing. I rarely play supplies-off missions.

 

 

The slight adjustment at Christmas time was down to the fact I didn't include times in AS battles for previous years.

 

I'll only ever buy the 100 kit from the garage as a last resort. My RK's are running low but when they run out, I won't be buying until my DA's and DD's catchup because I resent tanki's decision to remove the 1500 kit from the garage.

 

As you can see from this graphic, 100 DD's will last me 4 hours of play. Some may think this usage is high - trust me, it's not. I don't waste them if I don't have to.

 

Compare mine to one of the players in Gabe's topic

 

 

Again, the wobble at Christmas time was an adjustment to include AS Battle times.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Tanks guys for sharing your experiences, thoughts and data :)

 

[Guest]

Are you talking about this account or another one because on this one, 15 supplies per hour is your average usage?

On average you use about 4½ RK's per hr so 1500 of them will last you not 24 hours of playtime but over 300.

.

No, I was actually referring to the 300 extra RK's I bought. And, waw,...I didn't think I used just 4.5 RK's an hour... Guess I play no supply battles more than I thought. :huh:

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

Drugz haterz tend to forget that supplies bring more fun since you have to focus on this parameter at the same time as the activity on the battlefield!

But not everyone is drugging. You end up with a few heavy druggers vs a team of people who refuse to use any of theirs and the people that did try to save the game by drugging back just waste supplies. This is why in many cases its not skill but drugs that win games.

[T-34-3m 360]

A game with an economy, mind you. If supplies were free we'd complain that a M3 with DD can kill an M2 with DA, because upgraded equipment is the only difference in a battle without supplies. If all of that were free, what would we pay for? The initial purchase? Then why would we have all these crystals? Huh? The prices would have to increase! Do you see my point? No amount of economy change is going to effect game balance, it'll only destroy the entire economy and cause more complaining. Grow up.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

A game with an economy, mind you. If supplies were free we'd complain that a M3 with DD can kill an M2 with DA, because upgraded equipment is the only difference in a battle without supplies. If all of that were free, what would we pay for? The initial purchase? Then why would we have all these crystals? Huh? The prices would have to increase! Do you see my point? No amount of economy change is going to effect game balance, it'll only destroy the entire economy and cause more complaining. Grow up.

Please, don't act like I'm suggesting to make all M3s cost 5k and make nothing purchasable for real money. :rolleyes:

[T-34-3m 360]

I wasn't. I was commenting on your notion that it's just a game and the crystals in-game don't have any real world value. Technically, they do. The ones that are bought in large surplus and sent into circulation affect the economy as much as every crystal earned in-game. The game DOES have an economy with consequences for flooding the market. Since supplies and crystals are given for free already, if we crank that the hell up a notch, then they eventually loose value. Much like if a dollar became ten dollars in the real world, the economy would adapt and things would be more commonly worth ten dollars. I.E; a delicious Dr. Pepper would go from three bucks to thirty.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

I wasn't. I was commenting on your notion that it's just a game and the crystals in-game don't have any real world value. Technically, they do. The ones that are bought in large surplus and sent into circulation affect the economy as much as every crystal earned in-game. The game DOES have an economy with consequences for flooding the market. Since supplies and crystals are given for free already, if we crank that the hell up a notch, then they eventually loose value. Much like if a dollar became ten dollars in the real world, the economy would adapt and things would be more commonly worth ten dollars. I.E; a delicious Dr. Pepper would go from three bucks to thirty.

An economy lecture for me isn't really needed, thanks. ;)

 

I was saying that since it's a game, we should strive for a more enjoyable and fair gameplay for everyone. That's all. However part of the enjoyment is progressing through the ranks, earning crystals, and buying better and better equipment.

[T-34-3m 360]

Unfortunately, such a utopia is fictional and not possible within our society. It's human nature to be competitive and want an edge, just like it's human nature to want revenge on the jerks with bigger sticks and better armor. Unless we become autonomous or work as a hive mind, we'll always have things like poverty, imbalanced economy, and unfair battles. It's as much a problem with human nature as it is a problem with the game. The developers certainly  aren't to blame. You guys are doing to arguing and fighting, they're just giving you the clubs and shields to do it with.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Unfortunately, such a utopia is fictional and not possible within our society. It's human nature to be competitive and want an edge, just like it's human nature to want revenge on the jerks with bigger sticks and better armor. Unless we become autonomous or work as a hive mind, we'll always have things like poverty, imbalanced economy, and unfair battles. It's as much a problem with human nature as it is a problem with the game. The developers certainly  aren't to blame. You guys are doing to arguing and fighting, they're just giving you the clubs and shields to do it with.

You are partly right. The game's sole purpose is to entertain. Now for those people that their idea of entertainment is "crushing helpless noobs" then I have no pity for them. It is a part of human nature, yes, to want to be the most powerful.  However there are some systems that better protect ourselves from each others' selfishness. Capitalism does that by giving everyone a fair chance.

 

It's the same idea with poor people playing video games. In life they may be completely behind but in a video game the class differences are blurred. And that's a great thing in fact. :)

 

In addition you are still quite missing the point. I don't intend to turn this game into a total utopia. Otherwise you might as well make it the test server and give everyone infinite crystals.  The true enjoyment comes from progressing in power and rank within the game, as well as fair-play and friendly competition. Unfortuantely this "path to success" is truly hampered by the supplies system.

[ghost-guns 1,486]

Unfortunately the people running this game are thick as a brick.

 

I propose supply balance within games, to stop polarized battles but it is ignored like every other suggestion.

 

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=346319

 

They see that tanki is dying and don't care (but are happy to take peoples money anyway - fraud). I will be so happy when tanki x fails.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

 I will be so happy when tanki x fails.

We have that in common :lol:

Same here. :) :lol:

[RustyNail 1,538]

Of course they are great fun- when everyone has enough.

 

That is incorrect. There has been a supplies free day in the past and most of the people where just disgusted and frustrated, according to the relative topic comments. What is fun is simply a fair play. The only one to 1) shares the fund in a more balanced way and 2) be fun even for the team to loose.

[misafeco 713]

Druggers are selfish people that exploit a game to humiliate other people. They are morally crippled - the grown ups - or just kids misdeal by the game setting. I would be ashamed to dominate a battle and steal everybody else's share of fun. Of course, not everybody is like me. In fact, some can't even understand what I am talking about. It's like trying to explain the bad smell of human waste to people that can't smell.

 

I love people complaining about druggers. :P

So? Why do you join a battle with drugs enabled? I also hate unbalanced battles, that's why I bought the Pro Pass. I play regular battles occasionally and I have the drugs to counter buyers. I don't like drugs but they're a part of the game. I can use them if I must.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

That is incorrect. There has been a supplies free day in the past and most of the people where just disgusted and frustrated, according to the relative topic comments. What is fun is simply a fair play. The only one to 1) shares the fund in a more balanced way and 2) be fun even for the team to loose.

 

I agree that fair play is more enjoyable and the system should be set up so even the losers enjoy it.

 

However my main issue with supplies is that they allow one group of people to take advantage of another through exploiting a bloated power system. If everyone had unlimited supplies I would have no problem with that. Then, the players who simply don't like the way supplies affect gameplay can play PRO battles I guess.

 

If the supplies are free for all how can "fair play" be an issue. Of course heavy hulls do benefit more from the RK but that I different than what you are trying to say I assume. 

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

So? Why do you join a battle with drugs enabled? I

As the V-Logs mentioned, standard battles are for casual gamers. Some simply don't have the time to create a new battle and wait for it to fill up, so they join a standard battle that they know is full and 15 minutes. As I explained before it's actually better for non-druggers and druggers alike if supplies' effect is reduced by a non-drastic margin.