Reduce power of garage supplies

[CuT_TheRe_HeaRTs_OuT 640]

drugging in dm is different than drugging in team games, in dm(which i spend most of my time in )

 

I drug and the game balances out when 2 guys team against me that is when i have drugs, whenever

i am drugging and someone ask me to team i refuse for sake of fair play, when i have zero drugs and

someone drugs i team with another one, but not all druggers are created equal beside i never bought

any crystals so..... i dont drug to dominate or humiliate.

[r_carlo1234 118]

I'll reformulate a previous idea, I'm gonna start with Repair Kit:

 

New Repair Kit

 

- Cost 50 crystals

 

- 1000 hp of health

 

- It will automatically consume 1, 2 or 3 kits in one use depending of your tank's health needs.

 

- Minimum consumption is 1 kit even if your tank needs less than 1000 hp for a full restore.

 

- The second or third kit use should not exceed your tanks hp needs, if it does it will not be consumed. Unless there is a switch to opt for a full restore always.

 

Example:

 

A Wasp M0 will consume one kit for a full restore and an M3+ will consume 1 for a 50% restore.

 

A Hunter M0 will consume 1 for a full restore and an M3+ 2 for a 66% restore.

 

A Titan M3+ will consume 3 kits at once for a 75% restore.

[dan146_tanker 770]

So? Why do you join a battle with drugs enabled? I also hate unbalanced battles, that's why I bought the Pro Pass. I play regular battles occasionally and I have the drugs to counter buyers. I don't like drugs but they're a part of the game. I can use them if I must.

Battles without drugs don't exist. When making your own battle nobody will want to join, cause they'll find it boring playing in a map with 2v2 instead of 10v10. That's why people always send battle links saying ''gold box''.

Its much easier to just join a battle. But then when you do, the buyers with premium just gang up on you. Not only are they fully upgraded M2s but now they need drugs. Sorry, but if you need that to play that's what makes you a noob. That's why people hate you! That's why Tanki is dying.

The buyer/drugger needs to adapt to real skill.

Just because supplies are another part of the game doesn't mean it should be used. The shop is part of the game, so why not buy me 10 golds?

 

If drugs didn't exist I'd like Tanki much more. I'd also find 90% of my battles easy, and I'd be getting thousands from the battle funds.. That's how bad the drugs are right now.

In my eyes anyone who drugs can leave.

[Lankero 595]

Battles without drugs don't exist. When making your own battle nobody will want to join, cause they'll find it boring playing in a map with 2v2 instead of 10v10. That's why people always send battle links saying ''gold box''.

Its much easier to just join a battle. But then when you do, the buyers with premium just gang up on you. Not only are they fully upgraded M2s but now they need drugs. Sorry, but if you need that to play that's what makes you a noob. That's why people hate you! That's why Tanki is dying.

The buyer/drugger needs to adapt to real skill.

Just because supplies are another part of the game doesn't mean it should be used. The shop is part of the game, so why not buy me 10 golds?

 

If drugs didn't exist I'd like Tanki much more. I'd also find 90% of my battles easy, and I'd be getting thousands from the battle funds.. That's how bad the drugs are right now.

In my eyes anyone who drugs can leave.

If I'm not wrong, you're the one who needs to adapt to drugs. :rolleyes: Without them Tanki will die for sure. I believe 2000mc has explained a few times for F2P games work. You can go search for the quote yourself, if you care enough ofcours. 

Just because Z and X are a part of the game it doesn't mean you should use them  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  :rolleyes:  This is what you sound like, basically. And there is many people who actually think this way :lol:

[BLASTER872 1,892]

"since nobody else has drugs you using drugs is unjustified"

 

the drugging hater argument

 

a'ight, please make an alt acc and play a round or two on it

 

all I have to say to you is, "since nobody else can turn their turret you using your ZXC keys is also unjustified"

 

Battles without people turning turrets don't exist. When making your own battle nobody will want to join, cause they'll find it boring playing in a map with 2v2 instead of 10v10. That's why people always send battle links saying ''gold box''.

Its much easier to just join a battle. But then when you do, the noobs who use ZXC just gang up on you. Not only are they placing first all the time but now they need ZXC. Sorry, but if you need that to play that's what makes you a noob. That's why people hate you! That's why Tanki is dying.

The ZXC users needs to adapt to not turning their turret.

Just because ZXC is another part of the game doesn't mean it should be used. The shop is part of the game, so why not buy me 10 golds? Even though that you use the shop in your way (to buy for yourself)?

 

If ZXC users didn't exist I'd like Tanki much more. I'd also find 90% of my battles easy, and I'd be getting thousands from the battle funds.. Because I can't turn my turret myself. That's how bad the ZXC users are right now.

In my eyes anyone who turns their turret can leave.

Let's translate that argument to "ZXC keys"

End result is... RIDICULOUS! MY GOD! WHAT THE HECK IS THIS? turn turret on non turning turret peeps = bigger advantage than drugging against non druggers. duuh

 

Also, I love how you say "premium buyers", when you have premium

 

g'day

 

Just because Z and X are a part of the game it doesn't mean you should use them

case in point, +1 to you.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

"since nobody else has drugs you using drugs is unjustified"

 

the drugging hater argument

This is quite incorrect.  The supplies system creates bad feeling between those who have mastered it and those who have not. Even many players with a huge stockpile of supplies still hate the supplies system because it forces players into a war of attrition where the only end result is that the battle fund grows slower and all the tanks are 40% faster.

 

It is not so much unjustified as it is just a bit inconsiderate. And for the record, I hate creating new accounts for the exact reason you mentioned. Let the newbies learn in peace. I don't go in there and wreck up their fun.

[misafeco 713]

As the V-Logs mentioned, standard battles are for casual gamers. Some simply don't have the time to create a new battle and wait for it to fill up, so they join a standard battle that they know is full and 15 minutes. As I explained before it's actually better for non-druggers and druggers alike if supplies' effect is reduced by a non-drastic margin.

I think it's enough to reduce the RK effect. It's laughable that you are basically invincible while activating it.

[dan146_tanker 770]

Druggers will end up suffering from non-druggers in the end. People will just leave if they see druggers...

[misafeco 713]

In DM you have a wonderful opportunity: team against the drugger. It works all the time. Most of them leaves before the end.  :)

[ll.xx.indian.xx.ll 69]

 

 

 

This whole topic is useless. What this topic should of just been all about is the Pro Pass Battles in RU2 for no drugs. But adding my opinion in big maps isn't it not boring playing with zero drops? Using drops is a skill in this game and learning the pattern to use it for your advantage. Thats what Pro battles are all about. Yes you can then say well using no drops/supplies is skill. Yes it is but drops make the game more diverse and more of an exciting battle since both team have this advantage of using them. And then to complain about supplies? They have been in this game pretty much since day 1. Supplies make this game different and unique compared to other tank games.

 

Anyways Pro battles exist for a reason :D

 

And those who think drugs are unfair? Well again Pro battles are they for you. And then maybe if you play a little more you could buy them with crystals or even buy the 1.5k Kit if your that desperate. Oh and yes! Do your missions they give you extra supplies as well :D Just save up and use them wisely.

 

thats good , but we are saying about normal battles , there should be need balance .Pro pass is not for low rankers . We are saying for all players and new comers . If a newcomer noob will start this game . that what he feels if he/she sees hardcore druggers in such a low level ? may be he will leave this game forever.

[Mister.Sister 3,574]

thats good , but we are saying about normal battles , there should be need balance .Pro pass is not for low rankers . We are saying for all players and new comers . If a newcomer noob will start this game . that what he feels if he/she sees hardcore druggers in such a low level ? may be he will leave this game forever.

Since I play on my alt quite often there are very few low rank druggets..

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

Since I play on my alt quite often there are very few low rank druggets..

And that makes them all the more powerful. ;)

 

But I agree, low-ranking gameplay is better in that respect. It's part of the reason the endgame is so screwed up.

[MrAssasin 587]

Many, many people had to go through the same problem at low ranks, even I had to, but we didn't give up. I said to myself that I am going to play this game till I come to the highest rank so i could show druggers how does it feel to get rekt and i made it, here I am now. Standing in whole new shape and I'm really really happy that i didn't give up. This game became the part of my life. Try to join some clan. Clans can make your path to the legend much easier so you will be able to take a revenge on other druggers even sooner ;)

[r_carlo1234 118]

Since I play on my alt quite often there are very few low rank druggets..

New low rankers think bad of drugs, they see it as cheating, they just want to shoot other tanks and not worry about supply drops.

[ll.xx.indian.xx.ll 69]

Many, many people had to go through the same problem at low ranks, even I had to but we didn't give up. I said to myself that I am going to play this game till I come to the highest rank so i could show druggers how does it feel to get rekt and i made it, here I am now. Standing in whole new shape and I'm really really happy that i didn't give up. This game became the part of my life.  Try to join some clan. Clans can make your path to the legend much easier so you will be able to take a revenge on other druggers even sooner  ;)

Bro ... now I know that feelings.  I am also in a clan , I have a great account with clanteam (all buyers except me). They mostly play in cooldown supplies or full supplies battle.  That clan rare play in ordinary battles . but only they called me when they practise in nonsupplies battles . Actually they known I am a nonbuyer.

[r_carlo1234 118]

I have 3 WO accounts and I use few drugs, I have accumulated around 300 to 400 of each supply with the exception of RK which is around 100. But I do pick up supply drops when necessary, or maybe more than necessary.

 

Am I a drugger?

 

I see picking up supply drops as part of the game and part of the battle, and also fair because anyone in the battle can do it. And it is the only way to arm yourself against those that use supplies, which is also part of the game, but I don't see the latter as fair when others are not drugging. Fairness in a battle, right!? But it's just a game, right!?

 

With my WO5 I'm noticing more druggers and the effects of drugs more potent. That and from what I was reading that at higher ranks you have to drug or you loose, is making me think that when things get too difficult at higher ranks for my style of play, which is not worrying too much about the 1 to 5 keys, I'll just stop playing with that account and maybe create a new one.

 

This thread exists in a section called Ideas and Suggestions, and we are suggesting that supplies are too powerful and, we are giving our ideas. Whether we get heard or not it's our problem.

[Mister.Sister 3,574]

I have 3 WO accounts and I use few drugs, I have accumulated around 300 to 400 of each supply with the exception of RK which is around 100. But I do pick up supply drops when necessary, or maybe more than necessary.

Am I a drugger?

I see picking up supply drops as part of the game and part of the battle, and also fair because anyone in the battle can do it. And it is the only way to arm yourself against those that use supplies, which is also part of the game, but I don't see the latter as fair when others are not drugging. Fairness in a battle, right!? But it's just a game, right!?

With my WO5 I'm noticing more druggers and the effects of drugs more potent. That and from what I was reading that at higher ranks you have to drug or you loose, is making me think that when things get too difficult at higher ranks for my style of play, which is not worrying too much about the 1 to 5 keys, I'll just stop playing with that account and maybe create a new one.

This thread exists in a section called Ideas and Suggestions, and we are suggesting that supplies are too powerful and, we are giving our ideas. Whether we get heard or not it's our problem.

 

 

 

This whole topic is useless. What this topic should of just been all about is the Pro Pass Battles in RU2 for no drugs. But adding my opinion in big maps isn't it not boring playing with zero drops? Using drops is a skill in this game and learning the pattern to use it for your advantage. Thats what Pro battles are all about. Yes you can then say well using no drops/supplies is skill. Yes it is but drops make the game more diverse and more of an exciting battle since both team have this advantage of using them. And then to complain about supplies? They have been in this game pretty much since day 1. Supplies make this game different and unique compared to other tank games.

 

Anyways Pro battles exist for a reason :D

 

 

And those who think drugs are unfair? Well again Pro battles are they for you. And then maybe if you play a little more you could buy them with crystals or even buy the 1.5k Kit if your that desperate. Oh and yes! Do your missions they give you extra supplies as well :D Just save up and use them wisely.

As I said earlier drugging has an affect on the turn out of the game. Knowing this players in RU2 encourage the use of Pro battles without drugs to keep it more of a fair game. And this is allowed, no one can stop you. So I don't see why players are going on about if you have no drugs you will not win.

 

What I'm sure you might not get and many others as well is that you join these games at your own risk so I see no reason to discuss why you must buy drugs to win and why if the enemy drugs the game is unfair...

 

Please inform me if I am seeing this wrong.

[MrAssasin 587]

First we have to explain the word drugger.

Being a drugger means that you are using massive amounts of your own supplies (drugs) from your garage, you cannot be a drugger just by picking the drops.

[Vivianne 442]

If you don't find battles with supplies and pick ups amusing and satisfying, join a PRO battle without supplies or pick ups. That's how simple it is.

[BLASTER872 1,892]

Supplies from garage don't last as long as pickups. Pickups are far more powerful than DRAGER NUUB

 

Z, X, C.

[Vivianne 442]

Supplies from garage don't last as long as pickups. Pickups are far more powerful than DRAGER NUUB

 

Z, X, C.

Well that's maybe because pick ups respawn every one to two minutes, while drugs are gone one by one if you use them. But you can always buy more in the garage.

[BLASTER872 1,892]

This is quite incorrect.  The supplies system creates bad feeling between those who have mastered it and those who have not. Even many players with a huge stockpile of supplies still hate the supplies system because it forces players into a war of attrition where the only end result is that the battle fund grows slower and all the tanks are 40% faster.

 

It is not so much unjustified as it is just a bit inconsiderate. And for the record, I hate creating new accounts for the exact reason you mentioned. Let the newbies learn in peace. I don't go in there and wreck up their fun.

The battle fund grows faster due to the speed, actually

 

Ergo, mastered, since it takes skill ;)

 

I play No-supply battles, don't see why you'd complain about druggers where drugging is allowed.

 

I have not been in a drug war since I need to save drugs, but I'm sure someone who has will agree fund grows much faster.

[BLASTER872 1,892]

Well that's maybe because pick ups respawn every one to two minutes, while drugs are gone one by one if you use them. But you can always buy more in the garage.

That's not what I mean, if you pick up a double damage it last longer than when you just drug it.

 

I don't remember how much longer exactly, but it is longer by a few seconds.

 

And the garage drugs are overpriced ;) I get mine from buying equipment kits, gives me a load

[ToiletPaperRoll 1,318]

Just make all supplies 50%……………

[BLASTER872 1,892]

Well some talented players do not need to use much drugs since by learning the pattern of when the drops drop he can attack full drug all the time which will give him or her the advantage. However, as you said many assume and jump to conclusions and make a fuss about nonsense. 

 

Same goes with those who exclaim the word "Camper". Some do not know the difference between camping and defending. Although we can argue that they are different but for me its the same of which I have no problem against it since it is a tactic widely used in this game and of course; it is an affective way to defend.

 

Seems so simple yet many do not understand sadly. I hope this message can get across to everyone since for all of us it is anyone in a competitive drug game a tanker who joins and doesnt drug causing your team to lose...

 

Yes in a Pro battle without the use of supplies  :lol: Otherwise I must disagree...

I usually only drug Armor/Damage + Repair... While that does have me last long enough to get the pickups, smart cooldowns still force me to grab pickups to keep me supplies active.

 

I agree though... drugs are pretty damn OP.

 

If we are talking about 50% off, making drugs cheaper... Well there has been sales already with discounts to buy more drugs.. There is also a 80% discount when buying drugs with real money.

People would only buy the 100 drug kit

 

And that means the discount is 60% off.

 

But calculating crystal prices... actually, too lazy.

 

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I believe the solution is not debuffing drugs but making them more accessible. Making daily missions give a less pathetic number of them.