Reduce power of garage supplies

[Captain_Canuck 49]

Hmm... wouldn't it work better if drugs weren't so easy to get?

No, because having any drugs in the system gives the cheaters something to hack.

So since Tanki will not completely remove drugs and because hackers will cheat the drugs system, it is best to have drugs somewhat easy to purchase for us nonhackers/noncheaters.

[r_angelchild0 11]

The-Operator 219,

Well said, to the point and painfully truthful. They want the drugging to stay in the game and since no one can afford to upgrade any more it is a huge source of income. They will be left with their buyer/druggers while many good players like the Major leave. It's not hard to see the rampant abuse here. Anyone just needs to join a couple of battles anywhere. Drugging is wrong and needs to be controlled. Yeah, I know Captain, you're blocking me. Let me thank you ahead of time. Have a nice day all.

[Typo 1,299]

If they wont remove drugs they should rather decrease discounts on supply kits. I mean 70% off? So its 15 crystals per DP. No wonder people drug so much as they feel they don't have much to lose.

[xX_L_U_C_Y_Xx 33]

Supplies are an essential feature of gameplay which and one of the sources of income for Tanki. Stop complaining as tanki is not a charitable organization and needs money to pay its staff,maintain servers etc.

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

Supplies are an essential feature of gameplay which and one of the sources of income for Tanki. Stop complaining as tanki is not a charitable organization and needs money to pay its staff,maintain servers etc.

They have buyers that buy crystals for equipment and kits. Once those players are maxed out, there will be more new players coming in and buying crystals for equipment. So until there are no more players, it is a cycle of buyers. Drugs are not the only thing players spend crystals on.

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

No, because having any drugs in the system gives the cheaters something to hack.

So since Tanki will not completely remove drugs and because hackers will cheat the drugs system, it is best to have drugs somewhat easy to purchase for us nonhackers/noncheaters.

Exactly. So if they are removed from the game, then there will not be any drugs for hackers to hack and players to use, thus giving everyone the same opportunities in battle.

You do not know if the developers are set on never removing drugs. That's what this topic is for. We are making an effort to convince the to change their mind.

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

P.S. And because you kept trolling me in a different thread, you have been blocked by me.

lol Does it look like I care if you block me because I shut down your argument?

[Brubook 1,161]

Supplies are an essential feature of gameplay which and one of the sources of income for Tanki. Stop complaining as tanki is not a charitable organization and needs money to pay its staff,maintain servers etc.

If you gave a look at this post (at least the first post or the sum up), you would have noticed that Tanki earn quite a hell of a lot of money (calculations based on Alternativa Platform published data) and you would have read many and many other possible solutions for incomes alternative to power selling.

Don't just say like some do "poor tanki, they have lots of expenses" ... as I said other times, do you know where they work, where they have servers, where they have employees, where they have premises and how much do these things cost in those areas? Before talking without saying anything, get information as we did and you will be able to have a good idea of Tanki revenues. Do it and you will chance your opinion!

[Brubook 1,161]

The-Operator 219,

Well said, to the point and painfully truthful. They want the drugging to stay in the game and since no one can afford to upgrade any more it is a huge source of income. They will be left with their buyer/druggers while many good players like the Major leave. It's not hard to see the rampant abuse here. Anyone just needs to join a couple of battles anywhere. Drugging is wrong and needs to be controlled. Yeah, I know Captain, you're blocking me. Let me thank you ahead of time. Have a nice day all.

Also, players abandoning the game is a bad thing for druggers too. Let's remember that druggers drug to have an advantage, so they drug because there is some fair player that don't drug ... otherwise drugger vs drugger eliminates the advantage!

 

So, druggers drug because there are non druggers ... if non druggers leave the game, druggers will loose interest in drugging!

Druggers love to feel "Godmode_ON" with others and they can do that only with non druggers.

 

NO fair players --> NO druggers --> NO Tanki ..... easy!

 

Non druggers are the feeders of this game, the base to make this game crowd and interesting, the critical mass that makes this game beautiful, the ones that substitute an algorithm with a person as opponent ... NON druggers are the added value of this game and they ... and we are treated as (bad word) both by stubborn Tanki Staff and by ignorant arrogant druggers. Nice, ah?

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Well let's say hypothetically they removed them: How do you think buyers would react?

I don't think they'll be too happy.

I have a theory, and it's a REAL stretch, but maybe Premium accounts are going to be a replacement if they decide to remove or nerf the supplies. If you think about it, they're adding a lot to the Premium Users' garages. Like I said, quite a stretch, but it might be that.

[Captain_Canuck 49]

Your theory is still that there will be drugging available, though only for the free playing hackers and the premium buyers.

[Captain_Canuck 49]

Also, players abandoning the game is a bad thing for druggers too. Let's remember that druggers drug to have an advantage, so they drug because there is some fair player that don't drug ... otherwise drugger vs drugger eliminates the advantage!

 

So, druggers drug because there are non druggers ... if non druggers leave the game, druggers will loose interest in drugging!

Druggers love to feel "Godmode_ON" with others and they can do that only with non druggers.

 

NO fair players --> NO druggers --> NO Tanki ..... easy!

 

Non druggers are the feeders of this game, the base to make this game crowd and interesting, the critical mass that makes this game beautiful, the ones that substitute an algorithm with a person as opponent ... NON druggers are the added value of this game and they ... and we are treated as (bad word) both by stubborn Tanki Staff and by ignorant arrogant druggers. Nice, ah?

False.

I am a drugger and those ^ are not my motives for drugging.

 

The only reasons I drug are:

 

- the other team has one or more tanks that drugs first

- the other team has one or more tankers hacking me and/or my teammates

- the other team has sabotaged our team with one or more fake teammates

[viratno2 146]

All I hope is that Tanki at least nerfs drugs or premium accounts,seeing that Premium is already loaded with goodies. Drugs+ kits+ premium= total collapse of fair battles and frustration of players who come for fun.

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

The only reasons I drug are:

- the other team has one or more tanks that drugs first 

- the other team has one or more tankers hacking me and/or my teammates

- the other team has sabotaged our team with one or more fake teammates

1. That is exactly what I do but normally I don't do it because my team has a few druggers to fight the enemy druggers.

2. Please stop with the hackers. I have already proven that hackers are completely unrelated to drugs, but you refuse to accept that. You can simply screenshot/record (or /vote) and report it to the game violators section here.

3. There is an option called reporting using the /vote command and they will be kicked out after 5 minutes unless they have it open in another tab and keep checking on it but there is still the /vote command.

[Captain_Canuck 49]

All I hope is that Tanki at least nerfs drugs or premium accounts,seeing that Premium is already loaded with goodies. Drugs+ kits+ premium= total collapse of fair battles and frustration of players who come for fun.

After nerfing hacking and sabotaging, yes.

Otherwise until then, Tanki should ramp up the legal drugs, kits, and premium...

[RustyNail 1,538]

False.

I am a drugger and those ^ are not my motives for drugging.

 

The only reasons I drug are:

 

- the other team has one or more tanks that drugs first

- the other team has one or more tankers hacking me and/or my teammates

- the other team has sabotaged our team with one or more fake teammates

You are using 68,1 supplies per hour, that means you are a mild drugger, there are worse druggers than you.

Whatever (you think) your justification for drugging is, the fact is that drugging is both economically false and socially unethical.

There is no more talking to do, just imagine your self in the shoes of a player that can not drug and is forced to play in battles where druggers wander around beating everybody effortlessly.

 

Besides, drugging has been rivaled by superior MUed combos, at least in high ranks. Now, not only druggers are OP in relation to non druggers, but also M4 players too.

Differences in power during battles are more intense after the MU update and buying crystals is almost mandatory.

Yep, Tanki has no right calling itself a free to play game.

It's a pay to play game (and an expensive too).

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

You are using 68,1 supplies per hour, that means you are a mild drugger, there are worse druggers than you.

Whatever (you think) your justification for drugging is, the fact is that drugging is both economically false and socially unethical.

There is no more talking to do, just imagine your self in the shoes of a player that can not drug and is forced to play in battles where druggers wander around beating everybody effortlessly.

 

Besides, drugging has been rivaled by superior MUed combos, at least in high ranks. Now, not only druggers are OP in relation to non druggers, but also M4 players too.

Differences in power during battles are more intense after the MU update and buying crystals is almost mandatory.

Yep, Tanki has no right calling itself a free to play game.

It's a pay to play game (and an expensive too).

He probably buys too. If you see his profile, he has the special Eternity paint that was available on this year's past Halloween, which costs 250,000 crystals at his rank.  :mellow: I doubt he earned 250,000 crystals legit and in time for Halloween (or he actually did save up 250k legit and got lucky with the Tanki devs putting that paint in). With all those crystals, surely he has bought drugs and is trying to justify it by saying he uses them against hackers and saboteurs which doesn't help at all actually... lol total bullcrap.

[Captain_Canuck 49]

He probably buys too. If you see his profile, he has the special Eternity paint that was available on this year's past Halloween, which costs 250,000 crystals at his rank.  :mellow: I doubt he earned 250,000 crystals legit and in time for Halloween (or he actually did save up 250k legit and got lucky with the Tanki devs putting that paint in). With all those crystals, surely he has bought drugs and is trying to justify it by saying he uses them against hackers and saboteurs which doesn't help at all actually... lol total bullcrap.

My gut told me to unblock this specific post of yours and now I am glad I did so.

 

I bought my Eternity paint a couple ranks lower than my current rank.

What did it cost me? 100,000 crystals (nowhere near gp_P's false allegation of 250k)

 

 

 

You can see here that I'm not lying and that gp_P is:

 

• From Warrant Officer 1 to Warrant Officer 5:
  • Price: 100 000 crystals
  • Protections: 30% against Firebird, 12% against Thunder
  • Upgradeable to: 45% against Firebird, 18% against Thunder

     

• From Third Lieutenant to Colonel:
  • Price: 250 000 crystals
  • Protections: 40% against Firebird, 25% against Smoky, 10% against Hammer
  • Upgradeable to: 50% against Firebird, 38% against Smoky, 25% against Hammer

- source http://en.tankiwiki.com/Eternity#Protection

 

My Eternity Paint only protects me against Firebird and Thunder, so gp_P is trolling and that is why I blocked him...

 

EDIT UPDATE:

The only reason I ranked up so quick is cuz I had a major sickness so I had weeks of time off work.

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

My gut told me to unblock this specific post of yours and now I am glad I did so.

 

 

I bought my Eternity paint a couple ranks lower than my current rank.

What did it cost me? 100,000 crystals (nowhere near gp_P's false allegation of 250k)

 

 

 

You can see here that I'm not lying and that gp_P is:

 

• From Warrant Officer 1 to Warrant Officer 5:
  • Price: 100 000 crystals
  • Protections: 30% against Firebird, 12% against Thunder
  • Upgradeable to: 45% against Firebird, 18% against Thunder

     

• From Third Lieutenant to Colonel:
  • Price: 250 000 crystals
  • Protections: 40% against Firebird, 25% against Smoky, 10% against Hammer
  • Upgradeable to: 50% against Firebird, 38% against Smoky, 25% against Hammer

- source http://en.tankiwiki.com/Eternity#Protection

 

My Eternity Paint only protects me against Firebird and Thunder, so gp_P is trolling and that is why I blocked him...

I guess he didnt realise that you got from wo5 to first lieutenant in a month. It was only available to premiums so that paint is proof youre a buyer already.

[Captain_Canuck 49]

see my updated post above, railguniz4noobz (correct username by the way, as well as Fire, Thunder, Hammer, and Ricochet also being for noobs)...

[BSG-62 512]

see my updated post above, railguniz4noobz (correct username by the way, as well as Fire, Thunder, Hammer, and Ricochet also being for noobs)...

thunder is just fine

[RustyNail 1,538]

see my updated post above, railguniz4noobz (correct username by the way, as well as Fire, Thunder, Hammer, and Ricochet also being for noobs)...

Railgun requires skill to be effective.

Please think before you speak. The delay between pulling the trigger and firing makes for a grave disavantage, so only skill can make railgun a succesfull turret.

That's why it was the major weapon in Starladder, there 's nothing one can say about that.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

I don't find Railgun that impressive.

Somehow using only light hulls and spinning like a ballerina just doesn't appeal to me.

[RustyNail 1,538]

I don't find Railgun that impressive.

Somehow using only light hulls and spinning like a ballerina just doesn't appeal to me.

Taste is subjective. Need for skill is objective.

I don't like shaft (subjective) but I understand that it requires skill to be effective (objective). It doesn't make me to like the weapon, but I can't say it doesn't take some skill to be used. Same for Vulkan. It doesn't appeal to my taste, but skill is needed in order to be effective.

I think railgun is the most demanding weapon in Tanki.. oposite of twins.

[Captain_Canuck 49]

Operator,
Because twins are the least effective weapon after it was nurfed and the most effective weapons are a lot stronger than them, I find twins to be the most demanding weapon...with the exception of shaft after it was nurfed.

Whereas rail is now one of the most effective weapons and therefore one of the least demanding.

But the ballerina comment still got me laughing like crazy