Reduce power of garage supplies

[Captain_Canuck 49]

After I posted my first post on page 151 something strange happened.
[which I see has since been removed]

Why happened?

My computer stopped, changed to a blue MSDOS screen (or something like that if that's what it was) with a bunch of words about being hacked or something.

My computer would not reboot when I chose that, so I had to turn it off and restart it.

After doing so, an MSDOS screen showed up and I had some options about how to continue or not.

I chose a certain way, then it took a super long time to load up to my log in screen for my computer.

After logging in, it took 10X longer than normal to get my Windows desktop showing.

So I opened up my different browsers (also took a lot longer than normal).

I did other stuff and eventually tried to play Tanki.

Well, with this browser it changed screens to one telling me that I need a certain Adobe Flash version (when I already had one higher than that version).
So I tried with a different internet browser and it let me in but would never let me join any games.

I then retried this browser and had the same Adobe problem.

So I tried to redownload Adobe Flash and its popup window never showed me its words so I could not finish reinstalling it.

 

In short, someone here hacked my computer, not just my Tanki account...

[Captain_Canuck 49]

Plus I will add that my first post on this page was unfairly removed since it was not spam.
How was it not spam?

I had removed a basically identical one on the previous page, which made this one not spam.

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

Computers dont have a special screen for being hacked. (or at least all the versions i know)

Whoever "hacked" you is trolling you :o

I suggest that you take it to a pc repair shop and have them look at it.

 

 

Also, it takes a few seconds to show after posting so it never was there to begin with.

[Brubook 1,161]

I told you,

 

 

 

/spoiler]

 

Plus did you hear what he said, "my on-topic posts" and the only things he's been talking about was hacks, hacks, more hacks, and turrets. Both completely unrelated and proven to be so. And who gives a crap about D/L? What good does it do? I mean, you don't get a prize for having a good one. I never understood why D/L is so important. Someone could have the best D/L in the game just by kill-stealing. Does that make him good? Certainly, at kill stealing, but not skill-wise. He then states that he's been drugging more than ever to fight "hackers" and "saboteurs" and has been winning but we really don't know whether it's true. For all we know, he could be giving us a bunch of bull in a last effort to try to save his pride.

Actually ... I know!

 

I have seen Canuck in battle ... he was drugging and healing every time he tried to attack for flag! After someone told him "drugger" or something like that, he said "I do it to fight with hackers and saboteurs". He said "you (us, the opposite team) organised some mults to enter my team to make us loose". But, checking scores, it came out that WE had some mults with zero score in our team, while his team was fully playing!

 

He just "justify" his drugging shouting around about saboteurs ... just like someone preventing alien invasion, killing every human with the fear they are aliens!!!

 

I don't really know if he is just "creating his own movie" to self justify drugging or if he really believes what he says ... but to be honest, I would be more worried if it is the second!! :)

 

Someone said: world is nice because of its variety ... LOL

[Brubook 1,161]

Plus I will add that my first post on this page was unfairly removed since it was not spam.

How was it not spam?

I had removed a basically identical one on the previous page, which made this one not spam.

Apart computer hacking, which sure is not my business or my or Tanki fault (and could also be a virus for example), if you read before writing, you would have noticed that I said tha same thing for some messages disappearing!

 

And I kindly ask you again ... writing BIG characters (i.e. shouting) will not prevent hackers or saboteurs from coming, will not make your message more read, will not prevent aliens invasion ... and most of all, IT IS NOT POLITE !!!

So please moderate yourself. Thank you.

[awab1618 0]

I would like to inform this to developpers: alot of Tanki youtubers have recently been leaving Tanki, mainly because they say it is a ''buy to win game''. I think so, all the premium dudes get is a paint but what i don't like is that they get double the crystals which means they get more drugs and more drugs means they gonna be spamming 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 like crazy, however the non-buyers will just hope everyone is at low health and its the time they cant use the health. They're dream will be test server; thousands of drugs :P This was to inform you of me, youtubers, players and more...if anyone thinks so or disagrees leave a comment or send me your new topic if you made one...

[awab1618 0]

Sorry for the way out of topic title, i was going to start a topic about we need more hulls but then changed my mind and forgot about the title of the post xD

[Maf 32,317]

 

Topic merged

 

Sorry for the way out of topic title, i was going to start a topic about we need more hulls but then changed my mind and forgot about the title of the post xD

Don't bother changing it. The сгккуте hulls are just different in shape and they mainly vary in just amount of health and speed. Wasp and Mammoth are pretty much the limit of maximum/minimum health and speed, so going beyond that (as you suggest) would be a bit absurd, whereas adding new hulls with mediocre characteristics would make them too similar to existing hulls. Therefore, new hulls aren't needed unless the developers will give hulls special abilities that will make each hull unique.

[Brubook 1,161]

Thank you MAFlOS0 for the Canuck post moderation

[Brubook 1,161]

I would like to inform this to developpers: alot of Tanki youtubers have recently been leaving Tanki, mainly because they say it is a ''buy to win game''. I think so, all the premium dudes get is a paint but what i don't like is that they get double the crystals which means they get more drugs and more drugs means they gonna be spamming 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 like crazy, however the non-buyers will just hope everyone is at low health and its the time they cant use the health. They're dream will be test server; thousands of drugs :P This was to inform you of me, youtubers, players and more...if anyone thinks so or disagrees leave a comment or send me your new topic if you made one...

I agree with you on the "buy to win game", and I agree with MAFlOS0 that no more hulls are needed IMO

 

Appropriate post on the 1st subject, not really the right place for the 2nd. Thank you

[Captain_Canuck 49]

 

Actually ... I know!

 

I have seen Canuck in battle ... he was drugging and healing every time he tried to attack for flag! After someone told him "drugger" or something like that, he said "I do it to fight with hackers and saboteurs". He said "you (us, the opposite team) organised some mults to enter my team to make us loose". But, checking scores, it came out that WE had some mults with zero score in our team, while his team was fully playing!

 

He just "justify" his drugging shouting around about saboteurs ... just like someone preventing alien invasion, killing every human with the fear they are aliens!!!

 

I don't really know if he is just "creating his own movie" to self justify drugging or if he really believes what he says ... but to be honest, I would be more worried if it is the second!! :)

 

Someone said: world is nice because of its variety ... LOL

 

I went out of my way to see what the responses to my lasts posts were, so that is why I opened yours.

Actually, you are leaving out other words I said so your overall premise is wrong.

I said that based on the previous rounds of that map where people were hacking and sabateuring my team, I was starting to drug AND that I was from then on going to ultradrug.

So you overall lied about me.

 

Doesn't seem to matter now since someone hacked my hard drive to where I can't play the game anyway...

[Brubook 1,161]

I went out of my way to see what the responses to my lasts posts were, so that is why I opened yours.

Actually, you are leaving out other words I said so your overall premise is wrong.

I said that based on the previous rounds of that map where people were hacking and sabateuring my team, I was starting to drug AND that I was from then on going to ultradrug.

So you overall lied about me.

 

Doesn't seem to matter now since someone hacked my hard drive to where I can't play the game anyway...

 

Canuck, based on whatever you want ... but you were drugging in that match (not the one before when the world of saboteurs was around you), a match with normal players fighting. Actually we had some mults in our team. So you were drugging because 15 minutes earlier you saw sabouteurs or hackers??

In the match I was in, there were no hackers and some mults on MY team ... but you were drugging and healing all the time ... because of the (supposed) hackers of 15 minutes earlier? really?

 

Sorry but that is a nonsense! The most strange (to be polite) excuse I have ever heard!!!

 

Do you really believe in what you say?

 

 

Let's also notice that you use more than 60 drugs per hour (7000 drugs / 109 hours) ... you definitely drug fight your hackers/saboteurs with huge "effort"!!!

 

That drug usage at your rank is quite "impressive"! And would mean that every battle you are in is full of hackers/saboteurs ... uhm ... funny!

 

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

Canuck, this is not the place for you to be discussing personal problems with your PC. Please do it in Off-Topic Discussion. This is exactly why your posts were removed. They were all off-topic. Especially since I proved multiple times that they are, you keep repeating them over and over, which is considered spam and trolling. Any further post you make relating to hackers/saboteurs will be reported. Good luck dealing with the mods on that.

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

 

Actually ... I know!

 

I have seen Canuck in battle ... he was drugging and healing every time he tried to attack for flag! After someone told him "drugger" or something like that, he said "I do it to fight with hackers and saboteurs". He said "you (us, the opposite team) organised some mults to enter my team to make us loose". But, checking scores, it came out that WE had some mults with zero score in our team, while his team was fully playing!

Did his team win? If so, then this perfect example has just proven the truth of the title of this topic's title.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

I would like to inform this to developpers: alot of Tanki youtubers have recently been leaving Tanki, mainly because they say it is a ''buy to win game''. I think so, all the premium dudes get is a paint but what i don't like is that they get double the crystals which means they get more drugs and more drugs means they gonna be spamming 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 like crazy, however the non-buyers will just hope everyone is at low health and its the time they cant use the health. They're dream will be test server; thousands of drugs :P This was to inform you of me, youtubers, players and more...if anyone thinks so or disagrees leave a comment or send me your new topic if you made one...

Yeah, Pizzarific left recently, but I don't think he gave an explanation.

[Brubook 1,161]

Did his team win? If so, then this perfect example has just proven the truth of the title of this topic's title.

Honestly, I don't remember. But we see proofs of this topic title every day in too many battles!!

 

Infortunately ... very unfortunately drugs (almost) always win, they basically buy the victory ... and this should be NOT the whole idea of any game or competition, IMO.

 

Tanki spend pages and pages on strategy, teamplay, weapon or turret properties and best usage, techniques and more ... but unfortunately anything is just flatten down to zero by pressing 1-2-3-4 buttons! Rivers of words describing advantages and disadvantages that become just useless by pressing some numbers!

 

This is Tanki today (and in the last year) ... a free-to-play and pay-to-win game ... and gradually everyone is opening his/her eyes and start seeing that! The result is a half of the daily players in the last 8-9 months ... and the disappearing of the players graph on the homepage!

 

Because when they don't like something, they just remove it! They did it with some posts, with the downvotes and with anything that could cause proper brain movement into the players heads!!!

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

Yeah, Pizzarific left recently, but I don't think he gave an explanation.

He said he left due to personal reasons. I was one of his earliest supporters and friends, so I would know :P

Just like @SwiftSmoky left because he was recruited by the military. Respect for Swift, one of the best parkourists and now a courageous soldier. <3

[BSG-62 512]

Drugging at higher levels only occurs because people used drugs at lower levels and stuck with it because it's easy. Maybe getting drugs should become harder? More expensive, with more cooldown and no more 'Lots of supplies kits' or drug discounts and making sure that zero-cooldown card NEVER gets back into the game.

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

That could be a viable solution. Seeing as to how higher ranked people earn more crystals than lower ranks, they should be able to afford drugs that cost more. Even so, there are still buyers that literally buy their drugs. This solution would be good for the non-crystal-buyers that buy drugs but it wouldn't really help against crystal-buyers that buy drugs.

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

That could be a viable solution. Seeing as to how higher ranked people earn more crystals than lower ranks, they should be able to afford drugs that cost more. Even so, there are still buyers that literally buy their drugs. This solution would be good for the non-crystal-buyers that buy drugs but it wouldn't really help against crystal-buyers that buy drugs.

I dont think it would help, people can still afford 60k kits at first sergeant so why not drugs?

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

True true, but unless they play 24/7 I highly doubt they can earn those 60k+ kits legit.

[EpicTroll99 572]

After reading this topic on and off over the past few months I've decided to finally post something, based off what I've read. From the posts I've seen, and I will admit I haven't seen all of them, it appears to me that most people suggest that drugging can completely replace skill. This has become less true after the introduction of smart cool downs which was about a year ago I believe (feel free to correct me on that one). While before I would agree that drugging basically replaced all skill by pushing "234" all at the same time, now that one cannot do that to be an effective drugger you have to have some skill. You have to have smarts about when and what supplies to put on, and supplies till give even the biggest noobs an advantage. However, I'll admit that there aren't nearly enough regular no supply battles; the only ones that can be easily found are XP/BP (which isn't a huge problem for me, as I am pretty good with either combo and have both M2), but this is definitely if you are no good at XP/BP or simply don't like it. 

[railguniz4noobz 2,394]

True true, but unless they play 24/7 I highly doubt they can earn those 60k+ kits legit.

Its impossible to buy those without farming or buying crystals.

My point is that crystal buyers can afford 60k+ so why not maybe 100 per drug?

[generalpotato_PRO 1,076]

After reading this topic on and off over the past few months I've decided to finally post something, based off what I've read. From the posts I've seen, and I will admit I haven't seen all of them, it appears to me that most people suggest that drugging can completely replace skill. This has become less true after the introduction of smart cool downs which was about a year ago I believe (feel free to correct me on that one). While before I would agree that drugging basically replaced all skill by pushing "234" all at the same time, now that one cannot do that to be an effective drugger you have to have some skill. You have to have smarts about when and what supplies to put on, and supplies till give even the biggest noobs an advantage. However, I'll admit that there aren't nearly enough regular no supply battles; the only ones that can be easily found are XP/BP (which isn't a huge problem for me, as I am pretty good with either combo and have both M2), but this is definitely if you are no good at XP/BP or simply don't like it. 

"Effective drugger" lol. They're not even effective, they just ruin the game's balance. Plus it doesn't even take "smarts" to figure out which drugs to use. Simply, there's a double damage box and a nitro box, equip a double armor. Simple. No skill or experience required. And yes, the biggest problem that lies in the way of drugging solutions is the fact that most no-supply battles are XP/BP and you will get bored of XP/BP eventually.

[Brubook 1,161]

After reading this topic on and off over the past few months I've decided to finally post something, based off what I've read. From the posts I've seen, and I will admit I haven't seen all of them, it appears to me that most people suggest that drugging can completely replace skill. This has become less true after the introduction of smart cool downs which was about a year ago I believe (feel free to correct me on that one). While before I would agree that drugging basically replaced all skill by pushing "234" all at the same time, now that one cannot do that to be an effective drugger you have to have some skill. You have to have smarts about when and what supplies to put on, and supplies till give even the biggest noobs an advantage. However, I'll admit that there aren't nearly enough regular no supply battles; the only ones that can be easily found are XP/BP (which isn't a huge problem for me, as I am pretty good with either combo and have both M2), but this is definitely if you are no good at XP/BP or simply don't like it. 

I can see your point.

 

The problem is slightly different, and actually SCD didn't help. For a player it is not difficult to come to attack with 2 drugs active, if he just wait 15 secs, and waiting some seconds more he can also be ready for a health pack too, while the defender is not able to contrast both drugs at the same time. He can DD but will probably die for low defense or he can DA but not being able to destroy the enemy.

 

THe problem behind this is the excessive drugs overpowered that, as explained earlier, gives an equivalent of 2-3 M levels more than the non drugger. A 100% increase of properties is excessive and completely unbalance the game in favour of the drugger.

 

Also, by skills, I mean gameplay skills ... not seconds count skills!

 

A typical drugger uses 40-60 drugs per hour for a total of thousands of drugs per week. It comes itself that he must buy drugs. In Tanki economy you cannot upgrade your equipment and buy soo many drugs at the same time without buying. Hence you buy power, therefore you open your wallet to win. So, it comes to be a free-to-play and pay-to-win game, which is not what it claims and is not really fair for all players.

 

You have also to add that who buy usually MU his equipment and often do not develop his skills as he does not need to do it (as he is already more than twice powerful than other players) and you have the perfect drugger. If you notice it, often druggers when they see that they cannot win and destroy everything, they just run away ... to look for other chickens to blow up easily!

 

A game economy that is only or mainly based on selling power as Tanki does, is compltetely wrong. It creates unbalance, frustration and unsatisfaction to the majority of players (i.e. the critical mass) that makes the game interesting. This creates migration to other games (as is already happening) and a final Tanki failure as a business model. Probably because they know this, they will start over with the new Unity, even if I think they will keep this business model. Anyway they will milk players for some more years. This is sad!