Reduce power of garage supplies

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

I want to set up a drug club now. Where real druggers (not any fakes that ruin tanki battles) will battle each other

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

 

Good to see some one taking their time and writing a comprehensively about their appraisal on the use of supplies or drugs!  Well done.

 

I think that your post was merged or was it just deleted because this thread was already running.  However I feel that the moderator may have been pushed by auto suggestion by anther player.  I have seen many very good posts over the years removed by people assuming executive powers and forcing a moderators hand.  It was very pleasant reading a post that seamed to attempt balance and lack the usual inflammatory comments. 

 

I hope tat you go on to write more observations and thoughts.  I also hope that you go on to enjoy the game and climb the ranks.

 

Good luck

[vansh10 34]

I want to set up a drug club now. Where real druggers (not any fakes that ruin tanki battles) will battle each other

The druggers certainly wont like it XD

[vansh10 34]

 

 

Good to see some one taking their time and writing a comprehensively about their appraisal on the use of supplies or drugs!  Well done.

 

I think that your post was merged or was it just deleted because this thread was already running.  However I feel that the moderator may have been pushed by auto suggestion by anther player.  I have seen many very good posts over the years removed by people assuming executive powers and forcing a moderators hand.  It was very pleasant reading a post that seamed to attempt balance and lack the usual inflammatory comments. 

 

I hope tat you go on to write more observations and thoughts.  I also hope that you go on to enjoy the game and climb the ranks.

 

Good luck

 

Thanks a lot and happy tanking to you too. ;)

[vansh10 34]

Congratualations!!!! Did i spell that correctly?

Vanish10, have you ever been a generalissimo?

I now will support many anti buyers in this sentence:

I think most druggers are cowards and will not join a real drug war.

You did spell it correctly.

No, i have never reached that rank.

Thanks for your appritiation. :cD

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

I want to set up a drug club now. Where real druggers (not any fakes that ruin tanki battles) will battle each other

That's actually a briliant idea.

Let me know, when you found the club, because I like to support you, by posting a link to your club it in the news of our go-pro-club (see here, news are in post#2). Although this may seem strange, as in our club we play drug free > but the basic intention is the same > value skill and fair gameplay, instead of playing one-sided slaughtering.

 

 

There was once a player that posted here - I think his name was WinterStormWarning or something like that - and he had the same attitude then you:

> fight other druggers in pure drugwars, and challenge the skills there

(so not overpowering non druggers, but instead meet other druggers on the same (drugged) level and see who is better).

I guess he will be a member for sure :)

[The_blacklisted 22]

Why can't pro passes be 10,000 (or something) crystals but be in your garage PERMANENTLY.

[ELIZABETH1122 337]

Why can't pro passes be 10,000 (or something) crystals but be in your garage PERMANENTLY.

I think that 10,000 crystals is way too low for a permanent pro pass.  Perhaps that amount should afford say 3 months or 6, that is one quarter of a year or half.  Tanki has to make money.  I appreciate that the owner has plenty of lucrative irons in the fire but wealthy business men usually only tend to worry about very few things.  They are usually tough tough and are tend towards the sociopathic.  They do not care about you or I and only respond to commercial pressures one way or another.

 

The developers on the other hand, have to try and balance, the ultimate power and sanction of the owner business man and the end user, in our case player.  Collectively of course, one could say we had some virtual power, if fully coordinated.  We are not, nor ever very likely to be able to act with one voice.  A few players ganging up, might possibly cause some irritation with the developers, who may respond with ready made answers,  listen attentively and do nothing very much other than to try and sooth you, find some way to silence you along with the moderators wading in looking for ways to delete post or give temporary bans of varying length.

.

Sensible, well weighted, unemotional discussion is a good start.  A well thought out poll that might show a few alternative sensible options.  The benefits to all sides should be pointed out.  If the developers could see an idea making good sense, then they might be prepared to consider an idea.  I do not have any clue, as to what relationship this particular set of developers have with their masters, or how the command structure works here.

 

Don't forget that moderators and developers are human with vices and virtue.   They have real lives, with very real every day responsibilities both to them selves and family and also to their employer. They may not act as one might at first think.  Tanki is very autocratic and, actions on their part do not always seem to be so well thought out.  Their is most definitely some personality that occasionally gets in the way of good sense at times.  They tend to be exceptionally stubborn also and may not be swayed by any suggestions once their mind is set.  They do try their best to provide a good service and to keep all sides happy.  They have intense technical jobs that are merged with the politics of the game.  On the whole I think that they do a very good job.  They get more far grief from us that praise, unfortunately.  

[vansh10 34]

Why can't pro passes be 10,000 (or something) crystals but be in your garage PERMANENTLY.

Nice Idea.

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

The druggers certainly wont like it XD

The druggers that dont like it are the skill less druggers or truly the type you dont want

[LadyYuna 122]

Congratualations!!!! Did i spell that correctly?

 

 

No. It's "congratulations" ^_^

[deadmanrising 715]

I want to set up a drug club now. Where real druggers (not any fakes that ruin tanki battles) will battle each other

But that's the whole point, druggers gain no advantage if they end up facing others also drugging endlessly. Its more fun and convenient for them to join battles where the players refrain from using as much supplies as they can afford to use, which gives them the thrill of gaining multiple kills and crystals, most people here have been telling tanki this for ages but of course the usual response is supplies are part of the game and won't be changed, ignoring the cause of the problem as usual.   

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

^ as i said, drugging against non-druggers is actually pointless.

 

If druggers want to overpower, they should start a new account. There they can feel even "skilled" as they beat the s*it out if those beginners.

No drugs needed. No crystals, no money, nothing.

In this aspect it is truely useless, to waste drugs in high ranks against non durggers (full drug battles, where durggers meet druggers, are another story)

[vansh10 34]

But that's the whole point, druggers gain no advantage if they end up facing others also drugging endlessly. Its more fun and convenient for them to join battles where the players refrain from using as much supplies as they can afford to use, which gives them the thrill of gaining multiple kills and crystals, most people here have been telling tanki this for ages but of course the usual response is supplies are part of the game and won't be changed, ignoring the cause of the problem as usual.

 

 

SOOOO TRUE!!!

[The-Operator219 1,929]

"lol u guys die in one hit from my B.S? noobs! skrubs! get ur own drugs and i'll run like a sissy!"

So that's the mentality of an average drugger, eh?

[vansh10 34]

"lol u guys die in one hit from my B.S? noobs! skrubs! get ur own drugs and i'll run like a sissy!"

So that's the mentality of an average drugger, eh?

Ya, just about it.

[vansh10 34]

I am surprised that no one critised my main post. XD

Also i am sad no mod or brubook has told me if the post is good or its weak points ;(

[RustyNail 1,538]

I am surprised that no one critised my main post. XD

Also i am sad no mod or brubook has told me if the post is good or its weak points ;(

That was a good review in spirit of this drugging topic. Well done.

What I found most appealing was the point where you explain that overuse of supplies creates frustration and grief among the players.

That's exactly right.

 

Although, players drugging can't see that, due to not being the ones to receive the constant beating.

 

Another point that  it would be nice to underline is that skilled players that can afford full drugging do find drug wars exciting, because if SCD is applied  it does require a sense of tactic, when to use, which supply.

On the contrary, skill-less players that can't even turn the turret, yet they drown themselves in supplies, is a most irritating battle condition.

 

All in all, if Tanki economy swifts a bit towards cosmetics and non power selling (compared to the rate they do now) then this game might hold another 4-5 years (and I mean even the old flash Tanki), making both players and developers happy.

 

Good job vansh10 :)

[The-Operator219 1,929]

"To a canary a cat is a monster, you're just used to being the cat."

Something like that?

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

:(. Not happy with latest posts

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

But that's the whole point, druggers gain no advantage if they end up facing others also drugging endlessly. Its more fun and convenient for them to join battles where the players refrain from using as much supplies as they can afford to use, which gives them the thrill of gaining multiple kills and crystals, most people here have been telling tanki this for ages but of course the usual response is supplies are part of the game and won't be changed, ignoring the cause of the problem as usual.

you dont know what you are talking about.

Druggers vs druggers gain alot more than none vs none

[A_R_A_K_E_L_Y_E_N 503]

The reason why tanki doesnt want to remove drugs is:

Its revenue

its a fantastic way to enhance the game.

the noob druggers just dont know how

I only became a drugger upon generalissimo

[The-Operator219 1,929]

The reason why tanki doesnt want to remove drugs is:

Its revenue Obvious

its a fantastic way to enhance the game. ...If used right.

the noob druggers just dont know how To press one, two, three, or four? Meh, and I suppose people who hate Twins just don't know how to use them?

I only became a drugger upon generalissimo Well good for you, here's a cookie. Macadamia-nut.  :3

[The-Operator219 1,929]

you dont know what you are talking about.

Druggers vs druggers gain alot more than none vs none

Really? I'd think most of the fun from using them would be crushing everything in sight. .-.

Are you saying you don't have fun doing that? If so, what's fun about it?

[The_blacklisted 22]

I think that 10,000 crystals is way too low for a permanent pro pass.  Perhaps that amount should afford say 3 months or 6, that is one quarter of a year or half.  Tanki has to make money.  I appreciate that the owner has plenty of lucrative irons in the fire but wealthy business men usually only tend to worry about very few things.  They are usually tough tough and are tend towards the sociopathic.  They do not care about you or I and only respond to commercial pressures one way or another.

 

The developers on the other hand, have to try and balance, the ultimate power and sanction of the owner business man and the end user, in our case player.  Collectively of course, one could say we had some virtual power, if fully coordinated.  We are not, nor ever very likely to be able to act with one voice.  A few players ganging up, might possibly cause some irritation with the developers, who may respond with ready made answers,  listen attentively and do nothing very much other than to try and sooth you, find some way to silence you along with the moderators wading in looking for ways to delete post or give temporary bans of varying length.

.

Sensible, well weighted, unemotional discussion is a good start.  A well thought out poll that might show a few alternative sensible options.  The benefits to all sides should be pointed out.  If the developers could see an idea making good sense, then they might be prepared to consider an idea.  I do not have any clue, as to what relationship this particular set of developers have with their masters, or how the command structure works here.

 

Don't forget that moderators and developers are human with vices and virtue.   They have real lives, with very real every day responsibilities both to them selves and family and also to their employer. They may not act as one might at first think.  Tanki is very autocratic and, actions on their part do not always seem to be so well thought out.  Their is most definitely some personality that occasionally gets in the way of good sense at times.  They tend to be exceptionally stubborn also and may not be swayed by any suggestions once their mind is set.  They do try their best to provide a good service and to keep all sides happy.  They have intense technical jobs that are merged with the politics of the game.  On the whole I think that they do a very good job.  They get more far grief from us that praise, unfortunately.

 

Why couldn't you pay an amount to join a single pro battle and not a pass, that way people don't forget they have it but don't have to grind an extra 5,000 bcoz of druggers