Reduce power of garage supplies

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

^ And why would you want that?

[T-34-3m 360]

True, I did stock up when they had the sale. Like I'd buy one of those kits again. .-.

I usually buy a few individual bits when I'm low so I always have at least ten of each for when I'm in a pinch. 

[asifmak 467]

Good bye to druggers and this thread

MR. Permanent(very close to necessary) pro pass update is already rocking

[RustyNail 1,538]

Another comment about other peoples intelligence, seems to be a theme with you.

I'm pretty sure I could find plenty more examples of petty insults about peoples intelligence from you and your anti-drug mates here. But I'll leave it for now. 

 

Anyway, you didn't respond to my question regarding no-supplies battle availability now that Pro passes are temporarily free...I assume you did find suitable battles but didn't partake in them, preferring to join drug battles and take screen-shots of druggers instead. :unsure:

 

BTW, Tanki Wiki calls them Supplies and Drop-Boxes, therefore that's the terminology I (and others) use to describe them. No need to be pedantic over it...

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=329041&page=1&&do=findComment&comment=5655491

I could get pedantic over this quote from your “behind the tank” interview....(3 questions down from the Peugeot pic)

“I would like to start by saying that Tanki is a remarkable concept and despise my here and there objections”....despise?...your objections aren't that bad, surely?

 

So what do you and you anti-drug mates think of these recent PRO/supply changes?...do they suit you or not?...you guys have spent ages on this topic hating this element of the game, surely these changes are good for you, no?

Lot of words and little of meaning.

I surely won't explain for the 1000 time the difference between supplies and drugging. I spend more than a year trying to open up people's mind into the monetary unbalance that only has been worse after the SCD. Alternativa has made one step ahead and two backwards, sticking with the concept of pay2win game, despite their opposite claims.

If you want to learn what is - rather was - my thesis, go back to page 70-72 and read.

Basically, this topic was created as DRUGS THE ONLY WAY TO WIN IN TANKI and still applies, although mods have changed the title.

 

So, down to the bottom line. I would be very pleased if druggers could have their own battles and us non druggers our own. Until that day, druggers frustrate me and I frustrate them. Each to each own.

No supplies battles are totally different from non drugging supplies battles. Want to learn more, page 70-72.

If I see a battle that most drug either I leave or a stay drugging a bit. But not much. If however there is a non drugging battle and suddenly a drugging player appears, then by all means I will do anything in my power to make him feel as annoyed as i am due to his drugs enforcement.

Oh yes, prepare for a lot of pics with drugging noobs . I love to shoot photos, have I forgot to mention it in the interview?

 

When I see a setting that allows me to create few garage supplies battle I will be pleased.

Have a nice day / night

 

 

p.s. don't expect me to come here anytime soon, I got bored reading the same .... for months. Once in a while at best. Better for you druggers LOL

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Confirms what I meant by those quotes of yours that I posted.

 

Anyway, no point you non-druggers using this topic anyway, its been a waste of time. You have to get through 70 pages till you see the ideas. Frankly, the topic linked below is far better in terms of a suggestion that there should be limited supplies battles...If this topic here never existed, that topic would have far more support, as all the guys fed up with drugging would be supporting that instead.

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=249384

if you read page 12 and 13 in the topic that you linked, you will find some serious issues with limiting the amount of supplies, that - by now - could not be overcome by the people in that topic. Limiting the pure amount is to prone to fraud and misuse (unfortunately). If someone reads and understands those issues and could come up with some genius solution afterwards, feel free to post it there - it would for sure be welcome.

 

 

But anyways.. we could pause the whole discussion (the one here and in your linked topic).

the point is, that the game finally dared to do two cruicial things that have been asekd for a long time ago (in this topic btw :P):

- pro pass prices adapt to the ranks

- put pressure on players to get pro passes

 (and not just pressure to drug or loose)

 

In a few days the period of free pro passes will end. I am very curious, what will happen then and in the following weeks. For the moment I have good hopes.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

There's no reason for Tanki to be against this cos its actually a middle ground between heavy-drugger battles and no-supplies battles, so at least guys in these battles are using some supplies. Its the battle mode that is missing from PRO mode......

• Drugs ON...SCD OFF                  -        For super-drugging battles
• Drugs ON...SCD ON                    -       For lightly limited drugging battles
• Drugs ON...SCD Extended           -        For heavily-limited drugging battles
• Drugs OFF                                  -        For no-drug battles

 

while I have not read your idea there, I came to a simmilar conclusion

 

after thinking and reading here, it seems to me that limiting supplies works best via longer cooldowns.

[..]

so this limiting could be translated into a dropdown menu.

The button for supplies and smartCoolDowns are deleted; and the new dropdown menu reads like this:

 

[supplies]

- supplies OFF

- cool downs OFF

- cool downs x2

- cool downs x3

- cool downs x4

but actually I like your idea of having just an "extended" setting.. because it makes no sense to have too complicated settings.

 

We could work the drops also into it.. I think this makes sense in one drop down menue:

• drops off, supplies off
• drops on, supplies off
• drops on, supplies on, SCD extended
• drops on, supplies on, SCD normal   <- Default setting
• drops on, supplies on, SCD off

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

I just don't understand why it's still not obvious yet in the eyes of some players that many people play this game to annoy everyone who's playing by the rules until Tanki gives in to their desires?

Druggers are allowed to drug, but it pisses many people off. Non-druggers are allowed to specifically target druggers, but it pisses many people off.

 

Okay?

[Gabe2607 499]

I just don't understand why it's still not obvious yet in the eyes of some players that many people play this game to annoy everyone who's playing by the rules until Tanki gives in to their desires?

Is "annoying" against the rules? :P

[T-34-3m 360]

Lot of words and little of meaning.

It'd help if you did a little annotating. That helps with anything you're reading that you can't understand.

[Benefactor 6,888]

Is "annoying" against the rules? :P

Maybe it should be.

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

better not.

A non-drugger is anoyed if the guy he almost killed uses a health kit.

The drugger is anoyed if his teams flagrunner does not use a health kit.

A skilled player anoys his less-skilled enemies.

A less-skilled player anoys his skilled teammate.

It is anoying to save so long for M4s :P

 

Tanki could literaly close down, if anoying would be against the rules :)

 

peacefull mind and respect.. even if it's a battlefield game ;)

[Gabe2607 499]

All these whiners are absolutely ridiculous. They're annoying others because the latter don't play by their desires. I would feel soooo ashamed if I were in their shoes. Not to mention some of them are grown-ups (at least they pretend to be)

There are kids (not pretending to be) who said to have been against druggers till Gismo, then changed idea, as it was convenient to do so. Pretty embarrassing...

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

 

A non-drugger is anoyed if the guy he almost killed uses a health kit.

 

A bit more than that, I would say.

[Gabe2607 499]

This annoyance isn't legitimate since the non-drugger joined consciously a standard battle where supplies are enabled. On the contrary, a noob drugger is legitimately annoyed when a non-drugger joins his team.

The second sentence does not have ground... unless there is a new rule "everyone must drug and here is the minimum list!". Furthermore I generally end up (not first but) in front of several druggers: who has been more annoyed then?

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

Those situations are simply anoying.

If we continue to discuss who is anoyed more, we will still sit here in 2 months.

 

By this time we could also see, how the new pro pass scenario will improove our all lifes (hopefully :p)

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

I think yo uare right on some of them.

 

I asked Cendric to ask for a -50% pro pass offer to make the transition easier.. but they said no, as there were 5 days of free pass already. Well this is no transtions.. but I refused to argue on that.

 

I think they are simpy afraid that "the vast majority of players" will not use their battle button :p :p :p :p

[BSG-62 512]

Played my first round in 8 months. The problem is the same, it has not changed. Only thing is there are now less battles with no druggers although the amount of druggers in each round has stayed about the same (2-3). 

[BlackWasp777 4,498]

^yep that's true.

The amount of players that take the game at least soo serious, that they play instead of chat is way better in pro battles then in m´normal battles.

Well lets see how it turns out.. at the moment the battles on the servers look way more promising then 1 month ago - which is an advantage for both: supply lovers and players who preffer to play without them.

[T-34-3m 360]

I think with the recent update one of three things will happen: A, since we have PRO battles available to anyone who creates battles, we might see more NS or Parkour battles. I'm all for that. B, Since the people who buy a PRO pass create the battles, they'll create only PRO battles and normal ones will become a rarity, or C, We'll see a sudden surge in no smart cooldown battles for the hardcore drug wars. And they'll stay there, which would be neat.

[r_I_already_won0 2,339]

What I find is most PRO battles are not no-supply, actually.

[RustyNail 1,538]

Confirms what I meant by those quotes of yours that I posted.

 

Anyway, no point you non-druggers using this topic anyway, its been a waste of time. You have to get through 70 pages till you see the ideas. Frankly, the topic linked below is far better in terms of a suggestion that there should be limited supplies battles...If this topic here never existed, that topic would have far more support, as all the guys fed up with drugging would be supporting that instead.

http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=249384

 

 

This topic you hold so low is the first topic to point out that Tanki has been turning literally towards a pay2win (thus indirectly a pay2play) game and a lot of work has been done from the first moment.

 

The other topic you mentioned, I already have supported too, but it is more technical and does not take into consideration the whole issue of monetary policy and the unbalance of power selling... other than that it has reached many conclusions that are right and I have appreciated.

 

As for what is the base of non-druggers attitude, part of it is shown in this short video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQC7aBx58ek

[BSG-62 512]

Druggers.... there's one in every battle....

[Gabe2607 499]

A note of thanks to the Mods for keeping the Topic clean. :)

[RustyNail 1,538]

Who hides the drugers' pictures? Aren't they public content? Should I go to social media with them? Dear mods.. :P

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Who hides the drugers' pictures? Aren't they public content? Should I go to social media with them? Dear mods.. :P

Rusty: No need at all to humiliate the opponents, to crash them, or to laugh at them. That's a golden rule for virtual games too. Just because we don't see the other player does not mean we can use them without restrain.