Reduce power of garage supplies

[Brubook 1,161]

My opinion is same as the dev's: If you don't want to play against drugers:

1) search another battle

2) enter a pro battle

3) play with friends

 

This is an online multiplayer game. Online multiplayer. Find friends and enjoy the game!

Dev's opinion is based on a quite different idea than yours ... money! And they want to fix in your mind that drugs are good and make you feel god (and they have success on this!)

 

1 - Druggers are in many battles and they can enter even half way (so a normal player should exit?)

2 - Pro battles are not necessarily drug free (as we explained many times and you can see yourself) and pro pass is far too expensive especially for low ranks

3 - Should anyone start playing tanki with friends ... can't anyone enter the game alone?

 

This is a online multiplayer Free-to-play game, not a free-to-loose and pay-to-win game!

[RustyNail 1,538]

Indeed.  But then again, with the potential of short battles with smaller battle funds, it seems to me that those druggers who want lots 'o crystals will have to drug less and play longer battles for bigger funds and rewards.  After all, what's so fun about finishing a battle in five minutes and earning a measly amount of crystals when you can just lay back a little and let the entire battle unfold.  Once the aloof players leave, maybe some more seasoned players can come in and break the 2-0, 3-0, etc. deficit...

Nonetheless, druggers are druggers; they might cut down if battles are too short for their tastes or, conversely, continue their mayhems to satisfy their egos, no matter how short the battle.

 

You skip one basic element of the druggers' attitude.

Earning funds / crystals is part of their "reward". Mostly, it is the feeling that they dominate the battlefield.

The feeling "I am worthy, I make a difference" (but without wondering if one worths to make a difference).

In other words, it's a sample of a bad childhood, or a bad raising by the family.

Or, - which is certain - bad influence from the society.

 

How much different would things be if one had the feeling that one plays with dear friends whom one wants as happy as one self....

The exact opposite of bullying.

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

This is not the final version of this update. Remember Tanki are masters of deception and slight of hand. So something worse will be coming. It looks like it is just a marketing campaign for the PRO Pass. Or just a lazy attempt to solve the Early Battle ending problem.

 

OR maybe they are trying to make Flash TO less playable to encourage players to try Unity TO. :huh:  :blink:

[i200000 717]

Dev's opinion is based on a quite different idea than yours ... money! And they want to fix in your mind that drugs are good and make you feel god (and they have success on this!)

 

1 - Druggers are in many battles and they can enter even half way (so a normal player should exit?)

2 - Pro battles are not necessarily drug free (as we explained many times and you can see yourself) and pro pass is far too expensive especially for low ranks

3 - Should anyone start playing tanki with friends ... can't anyone enter the game alone?

 

This is a online multiplayer Free-to-play game, not a free-to-loose and pay-to-win game!

1 - If you don't want to exit feel free to use your supply.

2 - You are able to switch off the supplies and supply drop.

3 - Exactly. I haven't enter any game alone for hmm 6 months.

[Ordinary_Blood 66]

Yes Ordinary_Blood

This is one of the problems due to drugging. It is not worth being with druggers because of the low fund share you get and it is not worth being against druggers also for the same reason!

In any case druggers are like a virus! Bad to have inside and bad to stay near them!

People is slowly realizing this ... druggers are no good for anyone! Also, seeing someone else win and being a useless spectator is not nice IMO ... being spawn killed or devastated every time you see them is not nice either!

Have a look at the summary post (link on first page) to see problems and possible solution!

Thank you

Also, I think most chronic druggers haven't been on the receiving end or under the mercy of drugs, that's why they spam them so much. The only solution is to leave the battle after wasting valuable time. :( :angry: :mellow:

 

By the way, I myself am a chronic heavy drugger on my main account. But I receive many complaints from other tankers, so I created this one as a 'Free User Experience' to know why (and as a bet with a close friend.) Boy was I in for a ride! Only people on the receiving end will understand the truth!

 

So?!?!?!

druggers pay for drugs

so they get ofcourse more funds cuz they need buy drugs again!!!

u guys dont have pay anything for the battle if u dont drug, so pure profit

So? It's highly annoying for everyone else in the battle. It's not true we free users don't have to pay anything. The price is 'TIME'.

 

Update 2: well Ordinary and creeperskelly; you guys are right.  Instead of discouraging drugging, the score caps have bred "get rich quick" druggers, whose plan is to win multiple battles quickly using drugs (but not too many) so that they can reap profits; their favorite opponents are the less aggressive or aloof players in addition to any mult buddies. 

 

I actually just finished playing a tight Kungur CTF battle and a losing Rio CTF battle; in both cases, the opposition wanted to squash us quickly with drugs, though both battles took about 15 minutes each.  During the heat of battle, I sensed that the opposition was preying on our carelessness more than ever.  Although my absentminded team in Rio buckled against swarms of single-drug druggers in the last half of the battle, my team in Kungur was better prepared and adequately drugged back (myself included w/ double power) and we won 5-3 in the final minute.

 

In my view, I think the score caps have to be revised or else more druggers will catch on to "get rich quick" fever.

Score caps was doubled today but I think the concept of drugs have to be revised for fair gameplay. :) I still faced the same problem in both long and short battles. :(

 

Druggers are usually accompanied with mults. It's part of their plans.

[beaku 2,656]

So? It's highly annoying for everyone else in the battle. It's not true we free users don't have to pay anything. The price is 'TIME'.

 

We choose to use our time to play this game for entertainment. We aren't being forced to use up our time. Therefore, you can't call time as a 'price' for playing.

[BSG-62 512]

A: Tanki could, and should, increase the price of drugs.

B: The game could deduct the crystals needed to buy the drugs from the persons crystal prize at the end of a battle.

C: Drug use limit.

D: Automatic deduction at the end of each week for the amount of drugs used. Because some drugs are from daily challenges (damn the developers for that) the charge will be small.

[r_nightfuryy0 12]

hi,

 

How about limiting the Supply usage per death. 
 

i.e, You can use Health, Double damage, Double Armor and Speed boost Only Once before destructing.
I have been personally testing this, using supplies only once and it changes the way we use drugs.

Just a suggestion :)


Keep up the good work Devs ! 

[viratno2 146]

hello.

Hello

JUST BUY A PRO PASS! This topic should be closed

bro this whole topic (almost) tells that druggers are growing and pro battles are reducing. pro pass is frigging costly

in my rank its actually expensive. pro battles are in short usage now and many battles are drug wars

[Never-Play-like-Me 4]

Here's my proof:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

tankigameking was drugging the whole time and made about 1600 crystals in less than 30 minutes with this scheme.

yes but he probaly spended like 1000-1500 to drugs..... so he just have little profit

[Never-Play-like-Me 4]

Dev's opinion is based on a quite different idea than yours ... money! And they want to fix in your mind that drugs are good and make you feel god (and they have success on this!)

 

1 - Druggers are in many battles and they can enter even half way (so a normal player should exit?)

2 - Pro battles are not necessarily drug free (as we explained many times and you can see yourself) and pro pass is far too expensive especially for low ranks

3 - Should anyone start playing tanki with friends ... can't anyone enter the game alone?

 

This is a online multiplayer Free-to-play game, not a free-to-loose and pay-to-win game!

Its free to play.... if i see u rank u have mor then enough crystals to buy a pro pass and go play non-drug battles, where is the problem then? even bad guys like you can make easy crystals with the daily missions and can easy buy m3's

Its free but every game need money!!! so stop complaining about p2w, if u want that you only can buy things on tanki that gives you nothing nobody would buy a thing anymore and there wouldnt be a tanki anymore, u then happy? It wil be free-to-play and everyone is the same and nobody buy for 1 week and then 1 day u come to www.tankionline.com and there wil be no tanki anymore

 

every game need money!!! keep that all in ur mind

[Never-Play-like-Me 4]

A: Tanki could, and should, increase the price of drugs.

B: The game could deduct the crystals needed to buy the drugs from the persons crystal prize at the end of a battle.

C: Drug use limit.

D: Automatic deduction at the end of each week for the amount of drugs used. Because some drugs are from daily challenges (damn the developers for that) the charge will be small.

Good joke man, u probaly drunk, go sleep pleas

A: 1 drug is already 50 crystals!!! only for clicking 2 or 3 and pressing 1 cost 150 crystals, how u want it more expensive?!?!?

B: never heard something stupid like this, players pay crystals to get less crystals?!?!?!!?

C: what about guys that play 999 flags with full drugs.....

D: dont have words for this, if i was a mod/admin/developer you would have chat ban forever

[Ordinary_Blood 66]

Power of drugs: Squash higher ranks like bugs :D

 

Don't need ranks, just spam 1-2-3-4-5. Hi 5 ! :ph34r:

 

[creeperskelly 1,281]

If you want to see who is a drugger and who is not just look for when players spawn. Druggers drug immediately upon spawn - even when it takes 30 seconds to reach the other flag and especially when their own base is free of the enemy and not under threat of attack.

 

It's really humorous seeing people spawn with DD when there isn't anyone nearby to blow up!

 

A careful player doesn't hit a supply until they are ready to attack.

[RustyNail 1,538]

A: Tanki could, and should, increase the price of drugs.

B: The game could deduct the crystals needed to buy the drugs from the persons crystal prize at the end of a battle.

C: Drug use limit.

D: Automatic deduction at the end of each week for the amount of drugs used. Because some drugs are from daily challenges (damn the developers for that) the charge will be small.

Boys, (and girls), the real solution is the simplest. Increase the cooling period for each supply. Double or triple, and let everyone use as many supplies as possible. Even with auto-load, no more than 1/2 or 1/3 of battle will be on drugs.

But, Tanki doesn't want to lose the income from drugs.

It doesn't want either to replace it with something else.. At least, not in flash version.

I wait till Unity. If power selling keeps being the major income source, they can have their game all theirs.

[RustyNail 1,538]

Its free to play.... if i see u rank u have mor then enough crystals to buy a pro pass and go play non-drug battles, where is the problem then? even bad guys like you can make easy crystals with the daily missions and can easy buy m3's

Its free but every game need money!!! so stop complaining about p2w, if u want that you only can buy things on tanki that gives you nothing nobody would buy a thing anymore and there wouldnt be a tanki anymore, u then happy? It wil be free-to-play and everyone is the same and nobody buy for 1 week and then 1 day u come to www.tankionline.com and there wil be no tanki anymore

 

every game need money!!! keep that all in ur mind

 

You clearly have no idea of business, or how much do they really earn.

Tanki is one of the most expensive games I have EVER known.

They make lots of money, and supplies is not the only one source of income.

Go to wiki and see how many crystals does a decent M3 combo with a couple of good paints costs.

Millions of crystals!

Yes, millions!

Now, make some calculations, how many hours per day, EVERY SINGLE day must one play to earn through battle funds those millions.

I did and the result was something like 4 or 5 hours a day, every day for 4 years!

No vacations, no sickness absence, nothing!

Meaning, that all those high ranks have spend something for a good combo.

If you read much at the forum, sooner or later you will see random confesses, speaking about 100, 300 or more $. What game on Earth costs 100-300 $???

Man, you are sucker if you think that Tanki will close if supplies sales are reduced.

[i200000 717]

Go to wiki and see how many crystals does a decent M3 combo with a couple of good paints costs.

Millions of crystals!

Yes, millions!

Now, make some calculations, how many hours per day, EVERY SINGLE day must one play to earn through battle funds those millions.

Umm...realized - you are right. Millions...really...expensive. I have to look for other games I think  :lol:

[creeperskelly 1,281]

About 2.3 million crystals to be exact once you include paint and all MU.

 

As I pointed out the cost of a tank at low ranks is really cheap - about $20 or so.

 

But the tanks at M3+ cost around $600USD, and, the worst part about it is that despite the cost of such a tank being around 45x the cost of M1 the performance is NEVER even double.

 

Yes, true. A tank fully upgraded to M3+ gives you roughly 1.85x the power and protection of the same tank at M1, but, costs you 45x more than the same one at M1.

 

Now you know why people drug - drugs give you 2x the power and protection for very low cost.

[BSG-62 512]

Good joke man, u probaly drunk, go sleep pleas

A: 1 drug is already 50 crystals!!! only for clicking 2 or 3 and pressing 1 cost 150 crystals, how u want it more expensive?!?!?

B: never heard something stupid like this, players pay crystals to get less crystals?!?!?!!?

C: what about guys that play 999 flags with full drugs.....

D: dont have words for this, if i was a mod/admin/developer you would have chat ban forever

1. The mine is 50 and that is alright.

2. The whole point is to stop them from drugging.

3. The whole point is so that they don't use them. 

4. what was the bloody point of that? Anyway, you can't ban someone for having an idea that you don't like. what the hell

[Brubook 1,161]

We choose to use our time to play this game for entertainment. We aren't being forced to use up our time. Therefore, you can't call time as a 'price' for playing.

Probably the idea is that we all try to spend our time in a nice way. Getting devastated by insane druggers is not!

[creeperskelly 1,281]

I have never had a game in my life make me as angry as this one does.

It's nice to know the developers have so much free time on their hands to work on flair such as redoing Vulcan because there are no more glitches, bugs, flaws, hacks, or imbalance in game play.

[PrinceMalagant 35]

The answer is simple: in polite games and sports higher skill and best equipment wins, not tricks.

Tanki for druggers is like  to win the TDF using a motorized bicycle.

Completely wrong.

[red_tank_the_best 300]

Have you been here in 2012, 2013? Or even before? No? Then you don't know the real feeling of drugging. Back then, druggers had the full potential! Take m1, activate all the Doubles, and dominate in gismo battle! Yeah, it was quite annoying playing drugless here...or wasn't it? In 2012-2013 period earning drugs was like very very hard - daily bonuses and by directly bying 'em. Having more than 2k drugs before gismo, it's being buyer.

Oh, I was one-shot by thunder, smoky(smoky's insane crit chance and damage at m3 and m4), railgun, shaft? BUYER.

Can't kill him within 2 mins? BUYER.

Minefield? BUYER.

So, there were, in average, 2 druggers/buyers per one big silence, or other 8+v8+ battles. Was OK, yeah. No need for PRO pass (err, the "No Supplies" battle pass") to play ok. Bonus? Special battles named exactly for full-boost enjoyement.

Let's get back to present. As the russians would say, welcome to "World of Narania"(Нара(Nara)-Drug). Players aren't joining witohout 2k stacks of Ds...

FULL +1M from me. I feel your feels. Feel my feels too :c

[Never-Play-like-Me 4]

You clearly have no idea of business, or how much do they really earn.

Tanki is one of the most expensive games I have EVER known.

They make lots of money, and supplies is not the only one source of income.

Go to wiki and see how many crystals does a decent M3 combo with a couple of good paints costs.

Millions of crystals!

Yes, millions!

Now, make some calculations, how many hours per day, EVERY SINGLE day must one play to earn through battle funds those millions.

I did and the result was something like 4 or 5 hours a day, every day for 4 years!

No vacations, no sickness absence, nothing!

Meaning, that all those high ranks have spend something for a good combo.

If you read much at the forum, sooner or later you will see random confesses, speaking about 100, 300 or more $. What game on Earth costs 100-300 $???

Man, you are sucker if you think that Tanki will close if supplies sales are reduced.

tanki have people work for the, u think their free or just 5$ hour? no their expensive, they know how to code, they have building to pay they have domainname to pay, and this is not one of the expensive games, look at games like minecraft, 5m download x5,50 EUR u think tanki make so much? no. its free to play tanki, and only few people buy crystals, maybe 1/25, that why there is double crystal card

[i200000 717]

I have never had a game in my life make me as angry as this one does.

It's nice to know the developers have so much free time on their hands to work on flair such as redoing Vulcan because there are no more glitches, bugs, flaws, hacks, or imbalance in game play.

++. We know that feeling.