Tanki Writing Club

[Reeco9 1,567]

7000.

 

This guy @GoldRock is downvoting every issue I write.

Perhaps he doesn't like them.

 

 

as players said:

• he hates all interviews
• he hates being interviewed every time
• he hates answering questions

and that's that

 

What 'players' said this?

[Darren4Turbo 4,913]

Guys! can I complete today or tomorrow my M.U.L Agents story to part 2?

[MarineMan2 1,164]

He's a former reporter and he hates the club.

He is indeed a former Reporter, but I don't think you understand the true reasoning as to why this club bothers some people. You see, the Reporters do a lot of hard work, and have standards to meet when they publish articles. It is also a position that is not explicitly to players who say... Have purple hair, such as Goldy. Yet in contrast to that, it is open to all who have shown an ability to neatly articulate their thoughts and provide interesting articles. When this "Unofficial Newspaper" came around, it was like a bunch of happy-go-lucky guys just throwing together a few mediocre writing pieces. And as I've personally seen just today, not all of your articles are original. Some are just copied and pasted with a few minor alterations. Such a total outrage, and disgrace to the writing community! So while the Reporters (the real chaps mind you) are mulling over finite details, you fellows can't even keep your articles original.

as players said:

• he hates all interviews
• he hates being interviewed every time
• he hates answering questions

and that's that

1. Not true.

2. You basically restated your first point, so refrain to the above response.

3. He actually created a topic where players could ask him anything they wanted... And he somehow managed to respond to every darned question that was posted until he had to leave the game to deal with exams, at which point the topic was closed due to necessity.

GoldRock downvoted your post and he doesn't deserve to be a reporter then.

GoldRock has contributed so much more to this community than meets the eye, and what meets the eye is already overwhelming. The downvote feature exists to be used, obviously. When there is something you do not support, or perhaps feel opposed to, you give it a downvote. It's not that he has a personal vendetta against anyone here, but that the content is something he's opposed to. When you recognize that, a number of other things shall reveal themselves to you.

If you don't know if it's the truth, don't say anything.

Unfortunately, wisdom that most here will likely not take any note of.

Just stop fighting or mods will close this topic.

At this point there is no definite reason to close the topic.

I doubt it. Maybe delete some offensive posts if any of them turn out to be, but I don't think the topic will be closed.

What was said about Goldy was untrue, and unfair, but I judged that the more appropriate action was to address the matter rather than sweep it under the rug. Additionally, I know GoldRock well, so I have a firm grasp on who he is as a person, what he stands for, and his reasoning in addressing such matters as this.

 

Take a step back and look at things. Go and check this out from a more removed position and be better off for it.

[I3loodShot 3,119]

 

 

 

 

[GoldRock 6,165]

Hi there,

 

Firstly, like many sensible and mature players in this forum, I use the downvote feature for posts which I dislike or don't agree with. I would rather not invest either the time or effort in downvoting every issue you guys write, or in 'hating' this club - both statements about which are false.

Let's take the example of your contest, which I downvoted because I thought it a bad idea. The idea itself requires players to earn a load of points in a battle in a very specific, time-consuming format, and I doubt you will receive any entries at all. In my view, it's not an effective way to attract players to this Writing Club. And the reward itself... "Winner gets an interview with our newspaper!", as well as being able to write a short piece for your club. If I'm honest, I'm not sure if that reward's so great. It might helped if you guys first established a reputation for yourselves as writing to improve and to entertain the community, before offering such a self-centred prize. Then, maybe, readers would be more inclined to enter that contest.

 

The problem is, you guys don't seem to want to do that. Because copying both an idea from the official newspaper and the content of the article itself from the Internet is not a great way to be going about improving your writing skills or contributing to the community. And if you were that concerned about the feedback I was providing in the form of my downvotes, you could've just asked why I'd given them... instead of jumping to false conclusions, making things up and being downright insulting. 

 

Basically, it doesn't seem like you're acting as a very mature or professional group of players at the moment. I hope that changes, and that we'll see some high quality material from you guys in the future - but until then, I am perfectly entitled to express my opinion. I hope you'd agree. Good luck!

Edited May 31, 2015 by GoldRock

[MarineMan2 1,164]

And if you were that concerned about the feedback I was providing in the form of my downvotes, you could've just asked why I'd given them...

And I don't see you guys interrogating every single person who gives you an upvote. Some up votes are given on a whim, with no backing at all. In this case, I'm inclined to believe that those who downvoted had invested more time into looking into this matter than those who upvoted it.

[genak138 950]

Well, I hope that clears up a lot.

[1stsuperwhitedragon 408]

 

He is indeed a former Reporter, but I don't think you understand the true reasoning as to why this club bothers some people. You see, the Reporters do a lot of hard work, and have standards to meet when they publish articles. It is also a position that is not explicitly to players who say... Have purple hair, such as Goldy. Yet in contrast to that, it is open to all who have shown an ability to neatly articulate their thoughts and provide interesting articles. When this "Unofficial Newspaper" came around, it was like a bunch of happy-go-lucky guys just throwing together a few mediocre writing pieces. And as I've personally seen just today, not all of your articles are original. Some are just copied and pasted with a few minor alterations. Such a total outrage, and disgrace to the writing community! So while the Reporters (the real chaps mind you) are mulling over finite details, you fellows can't even keep your articles original.

1. Not true.

2. You basically restated your first point, so refrain to the above response.

3. He actually created a topic where players could ask him anything they wanted... And he somehow managed to respond to every darned question that was posted until he had to leave the game to deal with exams, at which point the topic was closed due to necessity.

GoldRock has contributed so much more to this community than meets the eye, and what meets the eye is already overwhelming. The downvote feature exists to be used, obviously. When there is something you do not support, or perhaps feel opposed to, you give it a downvote. It's not that he has a personal vendetta against anyone here, but that the content is something he's opposed to. When you recognize that, a number of other things shall reveal themselves to you.

Unfortunately, wisdom that most here will likely not take any note of.

At this point there is no definite reason to close the topic.

What was said about Goldy was untrue, and unfair, but I judged that the more appropriate action was to address the matter rather than sweep it under the rug. Additionally, I know GoldRock well, so I have a firm grasp on who he is as a person, what he stands for, and his reasoning in addressing such matters as this.

 

Take a step back and look at things. Go and check this out from a more removed position and be better off for it.

 

sorry but I didn't understand your point :mellow:

[1stsuperwhitedragon 408]

Hi there,

 

Firstly, like many sensible and mature players in this forum, I use the downvote feature for posts which I dislike or don't agree with. I would rather not invest either the time or effort in downvoting every issue you guys write, or in 'hating' this club - both statements about which are false.

 

Let's take the example of your contest, which I downvoted because I thought it a bad idea. The idea itself requires players to earn a load of points in a battle in a very specific, time-consuming format, and I doubt you will receive any entries at all. In my view, it's not an effective way to attract players to this Writing Club. And the reward itself... "Winner gets an interview with our newspaper!", as well as being able to write a short piece for your club. If I'm honest, I'm not sure if that reward's so great. It might helped if you guys first established a reputation for yourselves as writing to improve and to entertain the community, before offering such a self-centred prize. Then, maybe, readers would be more inclined to enter that contest.

 

The problem is, you guys don't seem to want to do that. Because copying both an idea from the official newspaper and the content of the article itself from the Internet is not a great way to be going about improving your writing skills or contributing to the community. And if you were that concerned about the feedback I was providing in the form of my downvotes, you could've just asked why I'd given them... instead of jumping to false conclusions, making things up and being downright insulting.

 

Basically, it doesn't seem like you're acting as a very mature or professional group of players at the moment. I hope that changes, and that we'll see some high quality material from you guys in the future - but until then, I am perfectly entitled to express my opinion. I hope you'd agree. Good luck!

oh ok. ever since that d4t said that you downvote every issue he makes I thought that you hate writing clubs & interviews :mellow:

[MarineMan2 1,164]

 

 

 

sorry but I didn't understand your point :mellow:

[1stsuperwhitedragon 408]

 

 

 

 

sorry but I didn't understand your point :mellow:

-_-

nvrm! I understood it (I didn't earlier because I skipped some lines)

Edited May 31, 2015 by 1stsuperwhitedragon

[1stsuperwhitedragon 408]

Guys! can I complete today or tomorrow my M.U.L Agents story to part 2?

Maybe tomorrow

[PetertheGeniusGamer 74]

Well, I wanted to be a Reporter, but the ReporterApplications account hasn't even read my PM yet -_-

[CombatCat2 248]

...It might helped if you guys first established a reputation for yourselves as writing to improve and to entertain the community, before offering such a self-centred prize...

 

...you guys don't seem to want to do that. Because copying both an idea from the official newspaper and the content of the article itself from the Internet is not a great way to be going about improving your writing skills or contributing to the community. And if you were that concerned about the feedback I was providing in the form of my downvotes, you could've just asked why I'd given them... instead of jumping to false conclusions, making things up and being downright insulting. ..

 

...it doesn't seem like you're acting as a very mature or professional group of players at the moment...

Thank you, sir, for accusing the whole club of something 3 people did, 1 of which has never even been in the club (the first link). Maybe you weren't directing it at the whole club, but it really seemed that way. There are a lot of people who work hard writing articles for this club, and what you said kind of takes away credit from them. Yes, I saw, read, and understood some things that obviously weren't appealing to you, but that's no reason to imply that the whole club is bad.

 

At least there's nothing wrong with my article =)

[GoldRock 6,165]

I was, in fact, directing that post at the whole club. The actions of the few reflect on the many. For example, the official newspaper is judged by the actions of its individual Reporters; and the same applies to any clan, group or club. All Reporters are responsible for upholding the reputation of the staff, and the image of the staff as a whole. It's called collective responsibility, and is considered a vital part of the integrity of any organisation.

 

I don't care if it wasn't you specifically. You associate yourself by membership (and especially by replying to my post on behalf of your club) with one who falsely accuses me of downvoting his every issue, and another who claims I shouldn't be a Reporter. Enlighten me... Is that respect? Is that part of selfless contribution to the community? Is that the right way to react to criticism? Because I think not.

 

And yes, your article was probably the only decent one that has been written by this club I've ever read.

Edited May 31, 2015 by GoldRock

[PetertheGeniusGamer 74]

Well my next article will be different.

 

 

And if u didn't remembered, SCYTHE used to be the owner of the club (or was it bluelight?)

[CombatCat2 248]

 

 

I was, in fact, directing that post at the whole club. The actions of the few reflect on the many. For example, the official newspaper is judged by the actions of its individual Reporters; and the same applies to any clan, group or club. All Reporters are responsible for upholding the reputation of the staff, and the image of the staff as a whole. It's called collective responsibility, and is considered a vital part of the integrity of any organization.

 

I don't care if it wasn't you specifically. You associate yourself by membership (and especially by replying to my post on behalf of your club) with one who falsely accuses me of downvoting his every issue, and another who claims I shouldn't be a Reporter. Enlighten me... Is that respect? Is that part of selfless contribution to the community? Is that the right way to react to criticism? Because I think not.

 

And yes, your article was probably the only decent one that has been written by this club I've ever read.

 

 

Very true, but to use your example, if one Reporter screwed up and, say, plagiarized an article, would that make the entire Reporter team look bad? Probably not. It'd reflect back on the person who did it, and, if dealt with properly, probably wouldn't have a major effect on the rest of the team. Who knows, maybe in your eyes it would be a complete disgrace to the rest of the Reporters, but it doesn't seem completely that way to me since I know I would be thinking "Well, that Reporter's a fool. Rest of the team seems fine."

 

Then maybe I shouldn't be handling this myself, but nobody else seemed like they would, and I can't let it go instantaneously when myself or an organization I'm in is "insulted." Also, I'm not saying I agree with them; I very much don't. People don't downvote things for no reason, and, although I didn't read any of your Reporter articles, just by reading some of your posts (the ones above), I can tell you deserved the position and probably were missed when you left. No, not respectful; no, not contribution; no, not the right way to react; etc etc, but I can see where they got the speculation. When you downvote the main topic and some of the posts/articles, it kind of implies that you don't like the organization (especially when a handful of the other Reporters also don't like the people trying to be like them...) Again, maybe you don't, but I'm just stating what I see through my eyes.

 

Thank you. I hope the next part is as "decent" as this one was.

 

And Gold, 1 more thing before I quit "arguing" with you: Please don't keep up what you're doing. Yes, you have a right to voice your criticism through downvotes, but the least you can do is either say why you don't like it, or say what can be done to improve it. Just saying "I don't like this" doesn't help anyone; all it does is decrease moral, but constructive criticism can be helpful.

[GoldRock 6,165]

Very true, but to use your example, if one Reporter screwed up and, say, plagiarized an article, would that make the entire Reporter team look bad? Probably not. It'd reflect back on the person who did it, and, if dealt with properly, probably wouldn't have a major effect on the rest of the team. Who knows, maybe in your eyes it would be a complete disgrace to the rest of the Reporters, but it doesn't seem completely that way to me since I know I would be thinking "Well, that Reporter's a fool. Rest of the team seems fine."

Well yes, it would reflect badly on the newspaper... on the Editors who allowed such an article to be published, and on the colleagues who failed to speak up in objection. Of course it would reflect back on the individual more so than the group, but my point was that it would still reflect on the group as a whole. I highly doubt that only the Reporter responsible would be held to account if it were to be discovered that an article published in the official Tanki newspaper was plagiarised.

 

If articles published by certain Reporters in the newspaper aren't up to scratch, then guess what readers complain about in the Main Topic? Not that so-and-so did a bad job, but to them, "the newspaper is boring/low quality". Reporters do receive individual feedback in their article topics, but the articles honestly do reflect on the newspaper as a whole. Put yourself in the reader's shoes - it would be misguided to suggest that the newspaper would not suffer any loss in reputation due to bad articles by one Reporter, because it almost certainly would.

 

Then maybe I shouldn't be handling this myself, but nobody else seemed like they would, and I can't let it go instantaneously when myself or an organization I'm in is "insulted." Also, I'm not saying I agree with them; I very much don't. People don't downvote things for no reason, and, although I didn't read any of your Reporter articles, just by reading some of your posts (the ones above), I can tell you deserved the position and probably were missed when you left. No, not respectful; no, not contribution; no, not the right way to react; etc etc, but I can see where they got the speculation. When you downvote the main topic and some of the posts/articles, it kind of implies that you don't like the organization (especially when a handful of the other Reporters also don't like the people trying to be like them...) Again, maybe you don't, but I'm just stating what I see through my eyes.

Well, there's nothing here that I disagree with... A few comments: I hope to return to the newspaper very soon, and I do appreciate that you've taken the time to respond to the issues I've raised. Also, I realise that the implication may have been raised about me 'hating' this club - but that still doesn't really justify the personal attacks on my character, about which I'm not sure I can see they got such speculations. Let me make it clear - I don't inherently dislike the club out of spite, but actions by the club in both the longer-term past and especially the more recent past mean that I don't exactly hold this club in high esteem.

 

Would you like it if my name in some of the baseless posts of the previous few pages was replaced with 'CombatCat2'? A statement such as the one about me 'hating this club' offered as explanation for my downvotes is false, in that it implies I hold unfounded grudges of some sort against your club which caused me to downvote; which simply isn't true. As I said previously, I use the downvote feature as it's meant to be used - to show disapproval of a post, not personal hatred towards a group or individuals.

 

Thank you. I hope the next part is as "decent" as this one was.

 

And Gold, 1 more thing before I quit "arguing" with you: Please don't keep up what you're doing. Yes, you have a right to voice your criticism through downvotes, but the least you can do is either say why you don't like it, or say what can be done to improve it. Just saying "I don't like this" doesn't help anyone; all it does is decrease moral, but constructive criticism can be helpful.

I didn't mean that comment about your article in a derogatory way, but that's my opinion. It was definitely a well-written piece, just a little short. I'm sure that's just because it was meant as an introduction to a series; but it does mean that obviously there hasn't been much room for plot development yet, else I suspect I would have thought it considerably better than 'decent'. A good start, nonetheless.

 

Excuuuse me. I never said I wouldn't say why I don't like something, and I already stepped in to explain myself in terms of the downvoting of your club's contest. What YOU need to realise is that readers are not obliged to explain their every downvote or comment such as 'bad article', and that them not doing so doesn't suddenly entitle you to tell them not to post or to personally attack them. If you guys wanted me to explain my downvotes, you could have simply asked in a respectful manner - yet now I can safely say that everyone in the club who has posted here about me, including yourself, has missed that point to at least some extent. I just explained why I thought your article was 'decent'. I invite you to ask me to explain anything further that you guys desire an explanation for, and although I am not obliged to do so, I would be more than happy to explain my viewpoints. Feedback should be considered a gift, and the time taken for people to explain their feedback should be highly appreciated.

 

And just for the record, I never just said "I don't like this" in any of these explanatory posts. I politely decline your request for me not to continue. It's up to you guys as to whether you take feedback, especially when negative, as a personal attack or as something constructive. It would be great if you could point out any instances where I've delivered non-constructive criticism i.e. criticism meant to degrade and without foundation, although I personally don't think I did so at any point. Rather, it's your accusation that's unfounded, especially when you make up things I said. Personally, I find that pretty disappointing.

Edited May 31, 2015 by GoldRock

[S.C.Y.T.H.E 1,072]

When I started this group, I had no idea what I was getting into.

 

To be honest, it was just a whim. I was hoping for Reporter applications to open, because I really wanted to join the actual reporters. Then I had the random idea of starting my own writing group, not to rival the actual newspaper or anything. Originally (I had this idea in early February), I hoped it would actually encourage the Newspaper Administrators into accepting my applications. Although in the end it did quite the contrary. 

 

I decided to quietly go through with my idea of an "unofficial newspaper" through PM. My friend, @duck100101 had expressed to me that he wanted to be a Reporter, so he was the first one I contacted. I was very new to the forum, and knew almost no one. The random people that I noticed posting articles on the forum, specifically through Rem's "Editorials", I contacted and asked to join the group. Everyone I contacted aside one person accepted, and I was excited since I believed we had some good writers especially since a Forum Moderator had joined us.

 

I really didn't know anything about any of our members. had some... baggage.. that I hadn't anticipated nor known about until after we started this topic. 

 

Then, a week before we were going to "publish", Reporter Applications were finally opened. I decided not to publish anything that I had written, because I wanted to use it in my Reporter Application and perhaps release it in the actual Newspaper.

 

Anyways, over the earlier month we wrote several articles, and we considered how we should release them. I wanted to make a single topic and post all of our articles there, to spare the flood on the forum. But we had no real leadership, and one member ended up just posting an article in a separate topic. 

 

Bluelight started this topic, and the then-known "Unofficial Newspaper" was open to the public. Initially, and still, we received some very negative feedback and I was actually devastated. Me and @mcmonkey25 happened to be accepted to the actual newspaper, and left because he was too busy. In my mind, our best members left the Tanki Writing Club. I ignored the Writing Club for quite some time.

 

Recently, I took a look and saw that basically all of our core members had left and the leadership had changed several times. I also looked at the TWC's articles, and was a bit sickened by the lack of quality, and general English skills. At the moment I'm quite disturbed by the TWC's decent into madness  a chaotic mosaic of off-topic "articles" containing no useful information and degrading any sense whatsoever of professionalism.

 

Looking back, I probably shouldn't have attempted to start this group, or at least given it more thought. I wish I had done @Yisroel.Rabin's decent approach. We needed actual leadership, and, now more than ever, they need a higher standard of quality. Its preposterous that one of the TWC's members would plagiarize an article, but remains true. 

Edited May 31, 2015 by S.C.Y.T.H.E

[Kevred 1,586]

 

 

 

I wanted to make a single topic and post all of our articles there, to spare the flood on the forum. 

 

^

 

The recent articles of this newspaper aren't linked, and knowing that they have to go through pages of topics to find an article might discourage potential readers.

[stuartb 234]

Hi there, Firstly, like many sensible and mature players in this forum, I use the downvote feature for posts which I dislike or don't agree with. I would rather not invest either the time or effort in downvoting every issue you guys write, or in 'hating' this club - both statements about which are false.Let's take the example of your contest, which I downvoted because I thought it a bad idea. The idea itself requires players to earn a load of points in a battle in a very specific, time-consuming format, and I doubt you will receive any entries at all. In my view, it's not an effective way to attract players to this Writing Club. And the reward itself... "Winner gets an interview with our newspaper!", as well as being able to write a short piece for your club. If I'm honest, I'm not sure if that reward's so great. It might helped if you guys first established a reputation for yourselves as writing to improve and to entertain the community, before offering such a self-centred prize. Then, maybe, readers would be more inclined to enter that contest. The problem is, you guys don't seem to want to do that. Because copying both an idea from the official newspaper and the content of the article itself from the Internet is not a great way to be going about improving your writing skills or contributing to the community. And if you were that concerned about the feedback I was providing in the form of my downvotes, you could've just asked why I'd given them... instead of jumping to false conclusions, making things up and being downright insulting. Basically, it doesn't seem like you're acting as a very mature or professional group of players at the moment. I hope that changes, and that we'll see some high quality material from you guys in the future - but until then, I am perfectly entitled to express my opinion. I hope you'd agree. Good luck!

well, thank you for that it was really nice hearing from you. Now we writer's well be straightened out.

 

When I started this group, I had no idea what I was getting into.

 

To be honest, it was just a whim. I was hoping for Reporter applications to open, because I really wanted to join the actual reporters. Then I had the random idea of starting my own writing group, not to rival the actual newspaper or anything. Originally (I had this idea in early February), I hoped it would actually encourage the Newspaper Administrators into accepting my applications. Although in the end it did quite the contrary.

 

I decided to quietly go through with my idea of an "unofficial newspaper" through PM. My friend, @duck100101 had expressed to me that he wanted to be a Reporter, so he was the first one I contacted. I was very new to the forum, and knew almost no one. The random people that I noticed posting articles on the forum, specifically through Rem's "Editorials", I contacted and asked to join the group. Everyone I contacted aside one person accepted, and I was excited since I believed we had some good writers especially since a Forum Moderator had joined us.

 

I really didn't know anything about any of our members. had some... baggage.. that I hadn't anticipated nor known about until after we started this topic.

 

Then, a week before we were going to "publish", Reporter Applications were finally opened. I decided not to publish anything that I had written, because I wanted to use it in my Reporter Application and perhaps release it in the actual Newspaper.

 

Anyways, over the earlier month we wrote several articles, and we considered how we should release them. I wanted to make a single topic and post all of our articles there, to spare the flood on the forum. But we had no real leadership, and one member ended up just posting an article in a separate topic.

 

Bluelight started this topic, and the then-known "Unofficial Newspaper" was open to the public. Initially, and still, we received some very negative feedback and I was actually devastated. Me and @mcmonkey25 happened to be accepted to the actual newspaper, and left because he was too busy. In my mind, our best members left the Tanki Writing Club. I ignored the Writing Club for quite some time.

 

Recently, I took a look and saw that basically all of our core members had left and the leadership had changed several times. I also looked at the TWC's articles, and was a bit sickened by the lack of quality, and general English skills. At the moment I'm quite disturbed by the TWC's decent into madness a chaotic mosaic of off-topic "articles" containing no useful information and degrading any sense whatsoever of professionalism.

 

Looking back, I probably shouldn't have attempted to start this group, or at least given it more thought. I wish I had done @Yisroel.Rabin's decent approach. We needed actual leadership, and, now more than ever, they need a higher standard of quality. Its preposterous that one of the TWC's members would plagiarize an article, but remains true.

we really need to step up our game :)

[tony990_Superstar 68]

Now we have a "designer" group...

 

I thought this was the Unofficial Newspaper? Why does everything that has some intelligence and skill to it have to be accompanied with something that takes absolutely nothing?

[stuartb 234]

Now we have a "designer" group...

 

I thought this was the Unofficial Newspaper? Why does everything that has some intelligence and skill to it have to be accompanied with something that takes absolutely nothing?

well who's going to make the pictures for our articles? Think who?

[GoldRock 6,165]

well, thank you for that it was really nice hearing from you. Now we writer's well be straightened out.

I know I haven't exactly been too pleasant here, so that was a mature response; as was your response to S.C.Y.T.H.E's excellently phrased comments on the matter. Appreciated ^_^

[CombatCat2 248]

 

 

Well yes, it would reflect badly on the newspaper... on the Editors who allowed such an article to be published, and on the colleagues who failed to speak up in objection. Of course it would reflect back on the individual more so than the group, but my point was that it would still reflect on the group as a whole. I highly doubt that only the Reporter responsible would be held to account if it were to be discovered that an article published in the official Tanki newspaper was plagiarised.

 

If articles published by certain Reporters in the newspaper aren't up to scratch, then guess what readers complain about in the Main Topic? Not that so-and-so did a bad job, but to them, "the newspaper is boring/low quality". Reporters do receive individual feedback in their article topics, but the articles honestly do reflect on the newspaper as a whole. Put yourself in the reader's shoes - it would be misguided to suggest that the newspaper would not suffer any loss in reputation due to bad articles by one Reporter, because it almost certainly would.

 

 

Well, there's nothing here that I disagree with... A few comments: I hope to return to the newspaper very soon, and I do appreciate that you've taken the time to respond to the issues I've raised. Also, I realise that the implication may have been raised about me 'hating' this club - but that still doesn't really justify the personal attacks on my character, about which I'm not sure I can see they got such speculations. Let me make it clear - I don't inherently dislike the club out of spite, but actions by the club in both the longer-term past and especially the more recent past mean that I don't exactly hold this club in high esteem.

 

Would you like it if my name in some of the baseless posts of the previous few pages was replaced with 'CombatCat2'? A statement such as the one about me 'hating this club' offered as explanation for my downvotes is false, in that it implies I hold unfounded grudges of some sort against your club which caused me to downvote; which simply isn't true. As I said previously, I use the downvote feature as it's meant to be used - to show disapproval of a post, not personal hatred towards a group or individuals.

 

 

I didn't mean that comment about your article in a derogatory way, but that's my opinion. It was definitely a well-written piece, just a little short. I'm sure that's just because it was meant as an introduction to a series; but it does mean that obviously there hasn't been much room for plot development yet, else I suspect I would have thought it considerably better than 'decent'. A good start, nonetheless.

 

Excuuuse me. I never said I wouldn't say why I don't like something, and I already stepped in to explain myself in terms of the downvoting of your club's contest. What YOU need to realise is that readers are not obliged to explain their every downvote or comment such as 'bad article', and that them not doing so doesn't suddenly entitle you to tell them not to post or to personally attack them. If you guys wanted me to explain my downvotes, you could have simply asked in a respectful manner - yet now I can safely say that everyone in the club who has posted here about me, including yourself, has missed that point to at least some extent. I just explained why I thought your article was 'decent'. I invite you to ask me to explain anything further that you guys desire an explanation for, and although I am not obliged to do so, I would be more than happy to explain my viewpoints. Feedback should be considered a gift, and the time taken for people to explain their feedback should be highly appreciated.

 

And just for the record, I never just said "I don't like this" in any of these explanatory posts. I politely decline your request for me not to continue. It's up to you guys as to whether you take feedback, especially when negative, as a personal attack or as something constructive. It would be great if you could point out any instances where I've delivered non-constructive criticism i.e. criticism meant to degrade and without foundation, although I personally don't think I did so at any point. Rather, it's your accusation that's unfounded, especially when you make up things I said. Personally, I find that pretty disappointing.

 

 

The first thing that I'm going to say is that I'm too lazy to respond to your text wall with one of my own, I will try to keep it short(er).

 

I suppose it would some, but maybe not as much as you think. For one, I didn't even know that there were specific editors who, well, edit, and I didn't know that the Reporters had the opportunity to read others' articles before they were released, which would lead me (and anyone else who has/had the same view as me) to see less blame on the other Reporters and more on the writer of it. But yes, I could see where it'd still reflect on the others.

 

I can see where that'd be true. However, again speaking from my own experiences, I do find a fair amount of articles boring, but I don't see the Official Newspaper as boring. I just skip the less-interesting articles and read the ones that peak my interests.

 

 

Then I look forward to reading some of your articles when you return. Again, I don't agree with them, it wasn't right of them to attack you just because you read something you didn't like as much, and I won't defend them for that; I'm with you there. And to the last part: fair enough. I can see where the low esteem comes from. Recently, plagiarism and horrible grammar are taking over the articles to the point where it pains me to read them (not saying everyone in the club, just a few).

 

No, I wouldn't like it if it were me; I would do something similar if I found out. I understand your position. The only thing I would do differently is take it to the people who said it instead of everyone in general. Maybe that isn't the smart thing to do; maybe it isn't the right thing to do and you're right like always, but it's what I would do, as it would avoid an "argument" like this.

 

 

Sorry, I didn't intend to make it seem like it was a negative comment. I was just using your words. I didn't want it to seem as if you liked it more or less, so I used the same word as you. You know, as they say, imitation is one of the sincerest forms of flattery. I respect you as a higher-ranked, more skilled, former moderator.

Could you please tell me how I can improve my articles?

 

It was definitely a well-written piece, just a little short. I'm sure that's just because it was meant as an introduction to a series; but it does mean that obviously there hasn't been much room for plot development yet, else I suspect I would have thought it considerably better than 'decent'. A good start, nonetheless.

Thank you. Yes, this part of it was shorter than the others. The rest of it will be a bit more action-packed, if I'm in the club long enough to post the rest.

 

 

All I have to say is that you're right, I'm wrong, as always. Yes, they should've asked "Why?" Yes, I should've simply asked "Why?" Yes, I shouldn't have started this fight.

 

I feel that you misinterpreted what I said because I didn't explain it enough. You are correct, I haven't heard you say "I don't like this." I was implying that simply downvoting without saying anything is similar to saying that you just don't like it. And again, I underexplained the "not continue" part. Yes, feel free to continue downvoting, I didn't mean for you to stop that, I meant that when you downvote, you could say why. And that statement is rendered useless by what you said after that about the whole feedback thing. Yes, it's a privilege to receive feedback.

I hope my clearing up my lack of explaining sort of "fixes" the "unfounded accusation." I didn't mean to accuse you of saying "I don't like this." Maybe it sounded that way. I'm sure it did, which would make you right again.

 

 

One more thing, and that is this: I would like you to know that I do not enjoy arguing, especially with people of actual importance, so I am basically just bridging the gap between your view and my view. In other words, you're right, I'm probably wrong. Case closed. I hopefully don't have to keep arguing for a hopeless cause, as I will lose at one point or another.