Do we really need the Olympic Games?

[I.WalkAlone 548]

I agree with jokersus.cava. The Olympics are a wastage of money. Spending that huge amount of money on a temporary event is a complete waste. That money could have been better spent on other world-wide problems: poverty, pollution, over population, etc. And yes, you are really naive if you believe that governments and news agencies are truthful at all times.

[shadewarttt 3,350]

I agree with jokersus.cava. The Olympics are a wastage of money. Spending that huge amount of money on a temporary event is a complete waste. That money could have been better spent on other world-wide problems: poverty, pollution, over population, etc. And yes, you are really naive if you believe that governments and news agencies are truthful at all times.

I suspect you had a little chat with Jokersus.  :ph34r:

[jokersus.cava 1,503]

Omg, this is ridiculous, you can't fake profit do you even know how the uk government works?

No!

 

@delnina2 is completely correct, foy want us to go back stone age?

OK, keep believing what you believe, I am tired of it, you guys don't want to learn anything.

 

It  seems you don't know nothing

OK, I agree with you...

 

I agree with jokersus.cava. The Olympics are a wastage of money. Spending that huge amount of money on a temporary event is a complete waste. That money could have been better spent on other world-wide problems: poverty, pollution, over population, etc. And yes, you are really naive if you believe that governments and news agencies are truthful at all times.

Finally someone who understands me.

Edited March 5, 2015 by jokersus.cava

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Omg another deluded fool, who do you expect to fix your problems???

With whose money? Certainly not the money that people pay in tax to have huge sporting events which generate alot of money.

 

People clearly don't understand economics and politics.

 

If you want money to feed the homeless

 

Take it from the money your government spends on war

 

The us government spends enough money on its defence to end world poverty!!!!

 

Yet you are here telling me that Olympic games are useless?

 

War is big business, do you know how much arms companies profit? Trillions of usd ($)

 

That would fix world hunger, poverty! Your country spends more in arms.

 

Why no one moans about the money that is spent killing people? Nooo but you moan about the Olympic games your better off hosting the games mate!

[jokersus.cava 1,503]

I suspect you had a little chat with Jokersus.  :ph34r:

No, we just didn't.

 

Omg another deluded fool, who do you expect to fix your problems???

With whose money? Certainly not the money that people pay in tax to have huge sporting events which generate alot of money.

 

People clearly don't understand economics and politics.

 

If you want money to feed the homeless

 

Take it from the money your government spends on war

 

The us government spends enough money on its defence to end world poverty!!!!

 

Yet you are here telling me that Olympic games are useless?

 

War is big business, do you know how much arms companies profit? Trillions of usd ($)

 

That would fix world hunger, poverty! Your country spends more in arms.

 

Why no one moans about the money that is spent killing people? Nooo but you moan about the Olympic games your better off hosting the games mate!

GOD, how many times do I need to repeat: governments do not make any profit on it. The money spent is more than the money earned.

My country doesn't spend money on war, there is not war, actually.

US spends too much, I know, but that's a different story. I agree with you, the money spent on the so called "defense" is also really much and should be spent on something more important. In this topic, I referred to Olympic games, because it annoys me when I see rich people having fun and the poor is just watching them.

You are right about the money spent on war and guns, I respect it, but also, I am right about Olympics, so let's respect each other, ok.

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In the Olympic games, people from the country come together to watch their country compete against other countries, you could remove your country from the Olympic games but you surely won't be missed and the country benefits otherwise they wouldn't want to host them -.- if government spends money it doesn't have it goes it recession example eastern European economies, Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal.

 

These poor countries even south Africa all want to host these games. Even Zimbabwe want's to host the world cup and it had hyperinflation because benefit!

 

As someone who lives near London I can tell you we are benefiting from the games.

[Guest Maserati]

Noobs stop arguing with jokersus, i bet you would cry if you were homeless we all know that. You probably just some wimpy kid who thinks they are tough and know a lot, but you do not know what a homeless person feels, they drastically have a hard time coping with their life. Every human has equal rights and deserves to be treated equally as another, trying to invest money with these benefits from hosting these games don't help the world, and if they did benefit why don't they help the poor then? Also money is worthless - just a piece of cotton paper. 

[I.Devastation 2,053]

Again, I'n repeating, the governments do not make any profit. Also, I'm not saying the Olympic games should be removed, I'm just against the ridiculous amount of money spent for useless things by governments.

 

 

 

To open your eyes

That doesn't mean they can spend it on whatever they wish.

 

When I was 12, I was interested in politics.

Here, read this

Edited March 5, 2015 by I.Devastation

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Noobs stop arguing with jokersus, i bet you would cry if you were homeless we all know that. You probably just some wimpy kid who thinks they are tough and know a lot, but you do not know what a homeless person feels, they drastically have a hard time coping with their life. Every human has equal rights and deserves to be treated equally as another, trying to invest money with these benefits from hosting these games don't help the world, and if they did benefit why don't they help the poor then? Also money is worthless - just a piece of cotton paper.

 

Here's a fun fact!

I was homeless yes that's right I do know how it feels, you clearly don't understand anything about economics,

 

Giving poor people more money means more tax meaning HIGHER prices for goods meaning everyone is worse off! There's something you guys fail to understand! And that is a huge sporting events helps everyone, from the homeless to the very rich, and the benefits last a long time, both benefits are economical and historical, the I was there when usain bolt broke the world record. What you guys suggest would be economical suicide you guys would prefer living in a communist country because clearly socialist countries aren't for you!

 

Go see how fun life's is there!

 

Communism is great btw

 

 

I'm done with this thread, if you argue with a sheeple people your not going anywhere.

[joostcool 5,942]

Very nice from you to think like that. But homeless people have a mindset that doesn't always allow help. I have seen a social experiment on youtube where homeless were offered a job, and they all denied it. They could start a life out there. Now here is the deal: Homeless earn more money by begging, I just googled and saw €250,- a day. When a homeless would have a job, they'd never earn so much money, as they most likely are not doing any highly educated job. 

 

I cannot reject that there are homeless who like to live on the streets, but nowadays there are so many things that can help you reaching a better position.

 

I think there should be invested in homeless, but I don't think it means that we all have to change our lifes for it. If you 'd really really want to help homeless you can also take them home, give them some food and let them stay for the night on the couch or a bed in a spare room, have you already done that?

 

 

You made my day, - BBC lie lol ! "They are all controlled by the government."

Yes, the BBC is not always correct. Media cannot always be trusted.If you want to make sure, you got to check it out yourself. It's more reliable to hear such a thing from a different source than from the government itself about the government. 

Edited March 5, 2015 by joostcool

[SicTransitGloria 76]

Is the Olympics a huge waste of money? Well, it sure seems like it from the outside. It's a lot of money that's going nowhere. But closer examination reveals otherwise.

 

As you've stated before, you don't trust the news. Okay, here's a Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of_the_Olympic_Games (You specifically stated you trusted Wikipedia.) Oh look, the London 2012 Olympics were profitable by over 52 million pounds. That's 52,000,000 pounds. Quite a lot of money.

 

(The source on the page about the London Olympics happens to be the final report from "LOCOG", the London Organizing Committee of Olympic and Paralympic Games. It doesn't get more trustworthy than that.)

 

Also, there is another thing that the Olympic games bring: prestige. I don't even remember hearing about Azerbaijan in geography class before this thread. Soon, practically everyone in the first world will know about it. That is a source of pride that few other things can supply.

 

I meant fancy buildings for Olympic games which are useless after they finish.

So, they shouldn't spend the money on whatever they want, its all our money

Governments make problems themselves, and the people living in their countries are their responsibility. Governments have to take care of every single people. It's written in the constitution .

I'm not sure what constitution you're reading, but that certainly isn't the case in most. It certainly isn't in the U.S. Constitution. Take a look for yourself. Of course, it depends on what you mean by "take care of". Must the U.S. guarantee rights to everyone? Yes. What about a place to live? Not so much.

 

Looking through the Azerbaijan constitution (all 54 pages of it), I could find no mention of the government having to supply free places to live for the poor. They do state that they shall give out loans to build houses, but that's a far cry from the charity you're asking for.

[delnina2 1,570]

Noobs stop arguing with jokersus, i bet you would cry if you were homeless we all know that. You probably just some wimpy kid who thinks they are tough and know a lot, but you do not know what a homeless person feels, they drastically have a hard time coping with their life. Every human has equal rights and deserves to be treated equally as another, trying to invest money with these benefits from hosting these games don't help the world, and if they did benefit why don't they help the poor then? Also money is worthless - just a piece of cotton paper. 

I dont think that we are wimply kids ... "who thinks they are tough and know a lot" Yes I know a lot :) .

 

No, we just didn't.

 

GOD, how many times do I need to repeat: governments do not make any profit on it. The money spent is more than the money earned.

My country doesn't spend money on war, there is not war, actually.

US spends too much, I know, but that's a different story. I agree with you, the money spent on the so called "defense" is also really much and should be spent on something more important. In this topic, I referred to Olympic games, because it annoys me when I see rich people having fun and the poor is just watching them.

You are right about the money spent on war and guns, I respect it, but also, I am right about Olympics, so let's respect each other, ok.

- USA do not spend to much money on wars . Do you even saw it budget ? every single $ is necessary !

- No Governments do have profit . 

- Then do not take a part in the Olympic Games . 

- Read the post above, 

Edited March 6, 2015 by delnina2

[jokersus.cava 1,503]

OK, I am tired of it. Please close this topic. Thanks to everyone who joined the discussion

Communism is great btw

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[delnina2 1,570]

Communism is not great . 

we are in the 21th century - Democracy is the best rule . 

watch  USA and learn , 

Edited March 6, 2015 by delnina2

[tanker538N 394]

I was gonna put a billion +s for u mate, but then it would be flooding, anyway i am TOTALLY with u on the fact that le olympics shouldnt be there, but unluckily, we cany do anything  -_-  -_-  -_-

[I.WalkAlone 548]

Communism is not great .

we are in the 21th century - Democracy is the best rule .

watch USA and learn ,

*Facepalm*, communism is not a concept which cannot exist in a democracy. In fact, it is pretty good for a democracy. It helps in granting economic equality. The USA government is capitalist, which is only good for a developed country. For a developing country (most countries in the world are still developing), a mix of capitalism and communism works best. It helps in ensuring economic growth and upliftment of the weaker sections of the society.

[joostcool 5,942]

Then why tend countries with communism to be harmful and dangerous? We have seen it in the past, but nowadays it still causes problems. Or isn't that the communism what causes countries to be harmful?

 

Also, I'd suggest not to close this topic by request, we still have a discussion going on.

[delnina2 1,570]

^ True, Read the post above . 

 

*Facepalm*, communism is not a concept which cannot exist in a democracy. In fact, it is pretty good for a democracy. It helps in granting economic equality. The USA government is capitalist, which is only good for a developed country. For a developing country (most countries in the world are still developing), a mix of capitalism and communism works best. It helps in ensuring economic growth and upliftment of the weaker sections of the society.

Countries that belive in the capitalism work better their economy is much better than communism countries . For exxample - Usa - Russia . 

[I.WalkAlone 548]

Then why tend countries with communism to be harmful and dangerous? We have seen it in the past, but nowadays it still causes problems. Or isn't that the communism what causes countries to be harmful?

 

Also, I'd suggest not to close this topic by request, we still have a discussion going on.

Communism isn't at fault here. The leaders are. The "communist" countries which caused problems in the past weren't really truly communist. They just called themselves communist. Also, most of them were dictatorial. I'm not really advocating communism here. I realize it is not feasible. But I do believe that certain values of it need to be imbibed in capitalism to have level growth in a country.

Countries that belive in the capitalism work better their economy is much better than communism countries . For exxample - Usa - Russia .

Russia isn't communist anymore. They only have certain economic restrictions. There isn't really any truly communist country in the world. That's why you can't compare it's economy to a capitalist country.

[delnina2 1,570]

Communism isn't at fault here. The leaders are. The "communist" countries which caused problems in the past weren't really truly communist. They just called themselves communist. Also, most of them were dictatorial. I'm not really advocating communism here. I realize it is not feasible. But I do believe that certain values of it need to be imbibed in capitalism to have level growth in a country.

Russia isn't communist anymore. They only have certain economic restrictions. There isn't really any truly communist country in the world. That's why you can't compare it's economy to a capitalist country.

You're right, the countries they are/were communist also had/have dictatorship rule 

Edited March 6, 2015 by delnina2

[joostcool 5,942]

There isn't really any truly communist country in the world.

If you consider the Sovjet-Union communist, the north-korea is as well. Whether it's truly communist I can't tell.

There isn't really any truly communist country in the world.

But I think communism is not what we want nowadays. Considering the past it has had. The reason those leaders in the past did that because the communism gave him the oppurtunity to become a dictator, and it pretty much is in human nature to grab more power when a human can.

Edited March 6, 2015 by joostcool

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Capitalism is great?

 

Then why is china growing economically?

 

 

Communism is something humans are more used, people having a too much freedom is not good

[dogm45 10,615]

Yes we need the Olympic games! I don't think about Capitalism or Communism. The people make a country what it is. I will say this where ever I have gone in the world. I have been embraced by nothing but good!! People are good period. This is my take after 54 years on this planet. I don't care about lines drawn on  maps which we call borders. That's my summary without going deep into it!!!

[jokersus.cava 1,503]

Then why tend countries with communism to be harmful and dangerous? We have seen it in the past, but nowadays it still causes problems. Or isn't that the communism what causes countries to be harmful?

 

Also, I'd suggest not to close this topic by request, we still have a discussion going on.

OK, but it has turned into communism discussion. Can I make another topic to discuss communism instead of this one?

 

^ True, Read the post above . 

 

Countries that belive in the capitalism work better their economy is much better than communism countries . For exxample - Usa - Russia . 

Communist countries has always been better for people. For example, in Soviet Unions time, the education was free and quality. Also, everything was cheaper. For example, a litter of gas used to be 10 current American cents in Soviet times.

And, as a modern example of communism, China is a communist republic, but you can see how great innovations and inventions they make.

 

 

You're right, the countries they are/were communist also had/have dictatorship rule 

That doesn't mean communism is bad.

 

Capitalism is great?

 

Then why is china growing economically?

 

 

Communism is something humans are more used, people having a too much freedom is not good

*cough* China is communist.

[jokersus.cava 1,503]

Communism is something humans are more used, people having a too much freedom is not good

I agree. Two things should be limited for humans: money and freedom.