Tanki Online Physics

[mcmonkey25 717]

I have a query, and I wasn't quite sure where to post it (its quite long for Q&A thread). I was using M2 Mammoth in a Monte Carlo CTF earlier and a gold box dropped. I found the point and stood over it as the gold box was dropping. An M2 Hornet and an M3 Hornet then came up in front of me and pushed me to move me off the gold. Their combined weight was around 3400 (according to basic stats) compared to Mammoth's 4618. This seems like quite a large gap to me. I pushed as hard as possible, and halfway through this small match up, a Thunder Hornet M3 started pushing from behind me. However, the two Rail Hornets still pushed me significantly far and so off the gold. My question is, how can TO physics allow small hulls to push directly against larger hulls, and move them out of the way when the stats are directly in opposition to this action. N.B. I was pushing as hard as possible towards them. I really do not understand this so if you could please provide an explanation, I would be grateful.

[jazz20 1,181]

Hmmm interesting question. Could lag have been a part of it?? I was in a generalissimo battle once with my m2 mammoth and a hunter fully drugged charged me and totally flipped me  :unsure:​ 

[canadarules 1,938]

 I pushed as hard as possible, and halfway through this small match up

interesting

[Rad-Powered 1,694]

I have a query, and I wasn't quite sure where to post it (its quite long for Q&A thread). I was using M2 Mammoth in a Monte Carlo CTF earlier and a gold box dropped. I found the point and stood over it as the gold box was dropping. An M2 Hornet and an M3 Hornet then came up in front of me and pushed me to move me off the gold. Their combined weight was around 3400 (according to basic stats) compared to Mammoth's 4618. This seems like quite a large gap to me. I pushed as hard as possible, and halfway through this small match up, a Thunder Hornet M3 started pushing from behind me. However, the two Rail Hornets still pushed me significantly far and so off the gold. My question is, how can TO physics allow small hulls to push directly against larger hulls, and move them out of the way when the stats are directly in opposition to this action. N.B. I was pushing as hard as possible towards them. I really do not understand this so if you could please provide an explanation, I would be grateful.

Have you done the calculations considering the hornets could've had fully upgraded weight? or maybe upgraded power too.

[Maf 32,312]

Remember that Tanki Online is in its own universe, therefore Real Physics =/= Tanki Physics.  :P

 

But on a serious note, it's not just the weight but also the power that you have to take into account. Perhaps the reason they were still pushing you is because they had a run-up before crashing into you, so they had more momentum to be able to start pushing you, whereas the third Hornet M3 was too slow to overcome their force with its initial crash into your hull. I'm not sure if momentum is taken into account when processing calculations and it's possible that it was simply the fact that their  power x mass is greater than yours.

[beaku 2,656]

Sorry, MAFIOZA121, but in physics there is no physical quantity defined by power*mass.

[liverpoolaum 811]

what is this topic about 

Edited March 10, 2015 by liverpoolaum

[dilsharox 2,395]

devs should consider about changing the physics of hulls cuz i cant push a hornet m3 head on with my dic m2 & i cant poush a hornet m2 with viking m2 although it shows medium hulls are more powerful than light hulls

[liverpoolaum 811]

that's simple due to their speed they have some advantage in must have pushed from sideways

[lordmostafa 3,821]

Simple. When it comes to pushing, weight contributes least. If 2 tanks are pushing in opposite ways, the tank with the higher power will win it. In your case, Mammoth's M2 power's a lot less than M2 and M3 Hornet, thus they were able to push you.

[HyperQuantum 362]

Sorry, MAFIOZA121, but in physics there is no physical quantity defined by power*mass.

But there is one defined by mass*acceleration, and that is force… F=ma

 

Power is defined by the energy or work done overtime. P=W/t

 

Hence, power is correlated to acceleration. The more power, the more energy contributed, the faster the tank accelerates.

 

The greater the power, the greater the acceleration, and the greater the force :)

 

All in all, just like what lordmostafa said, the tank with greater power achieves a greater force. And mass does in fact play a role in the formula, but not much.

 

Wanna push tanks? Consider upgrading 'power' ;)

Edited March 11, 2015 by HyperQuantum

[beaku 2,656]

But there is one defined by mass*acceleration, and that is force… F=ma

 

Power is defined by the energy or work done overtime. P=W/t

 

Hence, power is correlated to acceleration. The more power, the more energy contributed, the faster the tank accelerates.

 

The greater the power, the greater the acceleration, and the greater the force :)

 

All in all, just like what lordmostafa said, the tank with greater power achieves a greater force. And mass does in fact play a role in the formula, but not much.

 

Wanna push tanks? Consider upgrading 'power' ;)

Yes, I was aware of that, but thanks for your explanation :)

[HyperQuantum 362]

Yes, I was aware of that, but thanks for your explanation :)

Ok :D

[Amaze 400]

lordmustafa's answer the best!