Should Isida's not be able to heal other isida's?

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

What ranks do you play with anyway? Different ranks -> Different gameplay.

Warrant Officers? Lieutenants? Majors? What?

 

If you see an Isida chain/train coming, it's common sense to not aim at the one in the front. . . He'll just get healed.

You've got Freezes, Firebirds, and Thunders to annihilate them all at once, you know? It's EPIC for my M3 Thunder to fire HELL on Isida-trains.

Lol. I make them scatter ASAP.

 

Or if you've got Firebird, spray them. The ones in the back will die fast, and your after-burn builds up rapidly, severely injuring the Isida that was in the front, which could be easily destroyed by teammates unless they suck.

 

Or Freeze to catch them from behind, effectively splitting the herd, stalling them enough for their drugs to run out if they have drugs, forcing them to use a health pack so they can't use one after, or getting teammates to gang up on them . .. .

 

Railgun has that high damage to pick them off after they have been damaged. That, like Shaft, is what it's good for. Instant, powerful shots to stop them from making use of that health regen. If you pack on a double-power, it's a death ray. An M3+ Railgun can sometimes 1-shot my M2 Viking with Digital paint . . . . .

The same tactic may be said for Hammer.

 

If all else fails, you can use your own hull to block opponents.

Ah yes, blocking and pinning down, one of the most common things you see in Star Series, no? And there's a reason for that.

Split the group with your hull.

 

Eh, just giving you my insight. Isida chains aren't a problem for me unless my team really sucks.

Sometimes you will lose. Play better, or if it's your team, then leave the battle and join another one.

 

And I hate it when someone complains about Isidas healing a Mammoth sitting on the flag. . .

Hello? That's a legit tactic. The Mammoth weighs a TON, so why not use that and keep the flag safe?

The Isida is doing what it is supposed to do - healing its teammates. Obviously it will keep the Mammoth alive - the flag is at stake.

So don't target the Mammoth, ignore him first. Go for the Isida, and get at the Mammoth when he's at a vulnerable spot, effectively taking it out.

The Firebird is deadly for fat hulls like that, and can be picked off by Railguns quickly, allowing the opposition a window in time to take the flag.

OR, I've seen it done. A Hornet M3/Wasp M3 parkours over the Mammoth and runs away without losing much health. Though those are the professional ones that know how to use skill. B)

 

If Isida's are healing, they aren't attacking. And healing/attacking both use the same charge. :D

 

It's all about strategies, tactics, and how you deal with the situation.

 

And yes, sometimes you will lose. But hey, that Isida-train's a good strategy though. So either accept the loss, or if you find out that you'll just keep losing, then leave the battle and join another one.

[kayitsiz 621]

What ranks do you play with anyway? Different ranks -> Different gameplay.

Warrant Officers? Lieutenants? Majors? What?

 

If you see an Isida chain/train coming, it's common sense to not aim at the one in the front. . . He'll just get healed.

You've got Freezes, Firebirds, and Thunders to annihilate them all at once, you know? It's EPIC for my M3 Thunder to fire HELL on Isida-trains.

Lol. I make them scatter ASAP.

 

Or if you've got Firebird, spray them. The ones in the back will die fast, and your after-burn builds up rapidly, severely injuring the Isida that was in the front, which could be easily destroyed by teammates unless they suck.

 

Or Freeze to catch them from behind, effectively splitting the herd, stalling them enough for their drugs to run out if they have drugs, forcing them to use a health pack so they can't use one after, or getting teammates to gang up on them . .. .

 

Railgun has that high damage to pick them off after they have been damaged. That, like Shaft, is what it's good for. Instant, powerful shots to stop them from making use of that health regen. If you pack on a double-power, it's a death ray. An M3+ Railgun can sometimes 1-shot my M2 Viking with Digital paint . . . . .

The same tactic may be said for Hammer.

 

If all else fails, you can use your own hull to block opponents.

Ah yes, blocking and pinning down, one of the most common things you see in Star Series, no? And there's a reason for that.

Split the group with your hull.

 

Eh, just giving you my insight. Isida chains aren't a problem for me unless my team really sucks.

Sometimes you will lose. Play better, or if it's your team, then leave the battle and join another one.

 

And I hate it when someone complains about Isidas healing a Mammoth sitting on the flag. . .

Hello? That's a legit tactic. The Mammoth weighs a TON, so why not use that and keep the flag safe?

The Isida is doing what it is supposed to do - healing its teammates. Obviously it will keep the Mammoth alive - the flag is at stake.

So don't target the Mammoth, ignore him first. Go for the Isida, and get at the Mammoth when he's at a vulnerable spot, effectively taking it out.

The Firebird is deadly for fat hulls like that, and can be picked off by Railguns quickly, allowing the opposition a window in time to take the flag.

OR, I've seen it done. A Hornet M3/Wasp M3 parkours over the Mammoth and runs away without losing much health. Though those are the professional ones that know how to use skill. B)

 

If Isida's are healing, they aren't attacking. And healing/attacking both use the same charge. :D

 

It's all about strategies, tactics, and how you deal with the situation.

 

And yes, sometimes you will lose. But hey, that Isida-train's a good strategy though. So either accept the loss, or if you find out that you'll just keep losing, then leave the battle and join another one.

But

Much times we use this word(unfair) for if you think if anythink is unfair for we. But we have a problem. All players think different for this. All players have diffferent ideas. So all players opinion, differences unfair and fair. So if we try write any topic about of ideas or problems for self, much players write different ideas and  no one will be because developers don't understand or understand hardly what is player want. But if we try discuss, maybe players can reach a agreement and with this tanki online developers can see we much more.

From my another topic. We can't critize other players "unfairness" ideas.

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

@Kayitsiz: Your post is pointless. Either present some valid points against my argument or just forget about posting. :rolleyes:

The solutions are there for you to use. The tactics. Mind you, Tanki's an MMO. You're going up against real people, in real time. Obviously, like you, they think up of strategies. One such strategy is the Isida-chain. Deal with it. It can be done sometimes.

 

But if they're crazy druggers with M4 equipment, and it's an organized take-over, then yeah you're pretty much screwed.

Dangers of a long battle, yes?

[kayitsiz 621]

@Kayitsiz: Your post is pointless. Either present some valid points against my argument or just forget about posting. :rolleyes:

The solutions are there for you to use. The tactics. Mind you, Tanki's an MMO. You're going up against real people, in real time. Obviously, like you, they think up of strategies. One such strategy is the Isida-chain. Deal with it. It can be done sometimes.

 

But if they're crazy druggers with M4 equipment, and it's an organized take-over, then yeah you're pretty much screwed.

Dangers of a long battle, yes?

We can't say anythink anymore for this topic. Do you have any idea except tactics and "unfairness"?

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

@Kayitsiz: Tanki Online can be played like a point and shoot game.

But you know what that gets you? That gets you destroyed by simple tactics such as Isida-train.

 

So unless you're going to use Twins/Mammoth M4, drug, put a brick on your spacebar, and pray that the enemy doesn't have Urban/Rock paint, I suppose you might want to take another look at using strategy to overcome strategy.

[kayitsiz 621]

@Kayitsiz: Tanki Online can be played like a point and shoot game.

But you know what that gets you? That gets you destroyed by simple tactics such as Isida-train.

 

So unless you're going to use Twins/Mammoth M4, drug, put a brick on your spacebar, and pray that the enemy doesn't have Urban/Rock paint, I suppose you might want to take another look at using strategy to overcome strategy.

Eh :) My future is going to Twins/Mammoth M4, drug, putting brick..., funnier than wasp :) But opponents still get flag from me even with my Mammoth M2. Bad team=lose

Tactics... Yes, İsida train is not probably the best way. We can say different tactics and strategies for everythink. However, we should make a definite fact about unfairness. It could make everyone happy(even they lose)

This is a game, so I can complain about everythink. Problem, what should we complain about.

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

Lol yeah. At your rank, M2 Mammoth is completely outdated with M3 Hornet, and M3 Viking coming up soon. You'd either have to MU it, or just skip to M3 where it gets really good. The M2 Mammoth's weight is no match for the power of an M3 Hull. Or maybe even M4 since at M3, people usually start to Micro-upgrade. Although you probably won't even survive long enough for your weight to be a problem without Isida.

 

Isida train, not one of the best tactics? Maybe not. But it can be very effective. So it's definitely not a bad tactic.

This tactic is definitely NOT unfair however. You can do it yourself too. And there are plenty of ways to counter that. :D

[kayitsiz 621]

Lol yeah. At your rank, M2 Mammoth is completely outdated with M3 Hornet, and M3 Viking coming up soon. You'd either have to MU it, or just skip to M3 where it gets really good. The M2 Mammoth's weight is no match for the power of an M3 Hull. Or maybe even M4 since at M3, people usually start to Micro-upgrade.

 

Isida train, not one of the best tactics? Maybe not. But it can be very effective. So it's definitely not a bad tactic.

This tactic is definitely NOT unfair however. You can do it yourself too. And there are plenty of ways to counter that. :D

That is a good point. I will need MU it. :)

Also, yes. I can hack, i can mult, i can saboteur etc. But i don't these are fair. Do you think?

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

If you'd hack, then you'd probably hack at the lower ranks, where it doesn't matter at all.

Go ahead, hack/mult on your high account. 1, 2, 3, banned. You know how fun it is to bann high ranks? :lol:

 

But yeah, hacking/multing is unfair, but that's why you can bann it.

 

But can you work on your English? It may not be your primary language, but the least you could do is make your ideas more clear, such as your concept about fairness and unfairness. I only got a part of it, other parts are unclear.

[kayitsiz 621]

If you'd hack, then you'd probably hack at the lower ranks, where it doesn't matter at all.

Go ahead, hack/mult on your high account. 1, 2, 3, banned. You know how fun it is to bann high ranks? :lol:

 

But yeah, hacking/multing is unfair, but that's why you can bann it.

 

But can you work on your English? It may not be your primary language, but the least you could do is make your ideas more clear, such as your concept about fairness and unfairness. I only got a part of it, other parts are unclear.

I enjoyed from this conversation. :) I'm working on it, good bye.

Also, I wouldn't choice railgun to beat them.

[Batmode_ON 60]

But if a team has more than 3 isida's and the other team doesn't that team is more likely to win, where as if a team has 3 smokies and the other team doesn't at least both teams still has a good chance of winning, sounds balanced to you?

[Batmode_ON 60]

Eh :) My future is going to Twins/Mammoth M4, drug, putting brick..., funnier than wasp :) But opponents still get flag from me even with my Mammoth M2. Bad team=lose

Tactics... Yes, İsida train is not probably the best way. We can say different tactics and strategies for everythink. However, we should make a definite fact about unfairness. It could make everyone happy(even they lose)

This is a game, so I can complain about everythink. Problem, what should we complain about.

My future turrets are hammer/smoky m4/hunter m4 At least its not popular so i have an advantage :p

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

@Batmode_On:

Well it's the team's fault that they're using all Smokys, and not trying to counter the Isidas.

Why do you think Tanki Online lets you switch hulls, turrets, and PAINTS!

Hello? Isida paints? Irbis? Rock? Electra? And more!

 

So as you can see, there are lots of solutions. But if you still can't win do to whatever reason, then you can simply

choose another battle to go to. Why do you think TO is making it easier for you to browse the battles?

 

Go figure. Use your brain and think about it. OK?

 

That's like saying, Omg the team has Freeze guarding their flag, while nobody on our team wants to switch to Freeze.

It is definitely "unfair!" Haha yea right. You just don't want to do the actual work and counter it. You just expect it to be done for you.

Like I said, TO is a game where you're versing against real players, in real time. Real brains.

 

@Kayitsiz: You misunderstood me. Of course, Railgun can't always 1-shot the druggers, etc.

However, I repeat this yet again.

Railgun, like Shaft, takes off a LOT of armor in one shot. It is instant, massive, lethal damage.

 

So you wait until the enemy is damaged first, and then before they can use health pack, you finish them off for your team.

If you really can't, Railgun's impact force isn't bad either.

[Destroyer8-k 9]

Yesterday took out an 3-tank isida train(all isidas) with only one isida at my back.I annihilated them with my Twins and hornet combination by taking advantage of their low range.

 

Tanki online is extremely balanced(though drugging still should be fixed) giving each gun some weaknesses and some strengths.Same goes for the hulls.

 

Yeah,I can understand your problem.Though,you don't see formations like that every match do you? And you said the isidas had double damage,so take em out with a shaft.One shot one kill.

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

@Destroyer8-k: Exactly. Although the supplies need balancing, it's perfectly possible to deal with opposing strategies.

The solutions are there. You just need to use them instead of wanting a victory to be handed to you, and then whining when you don't get it your way.

[MarineMan2 1,164]

Moved from General.

[GODOFWAR1516 1]

i like isdia when they heal me and i hate them when they heal opponent  :D

[deadtoyou 2,502]

Isidas shouldn't heal Isidas? Why? That's like saying Medics aren't allowed to heal other Medics, which is absurd. That means bad things for the army.

[kayitsiz 621]

Isidas shouldn't heal Isidas? Why? That's like saying Medics aren't allowed to heal other Medics, which is absurd. That means bad things for the army.

It's the main point of this idea. We don't make an army, right? This is a game that theorically contains a balance.

He think that this situation breaks balance and this idea can fix it.

[nnn_823543 0]

Anyone want to know test server 5 invite code?

[nnn_823543 0]

it's "testdim"

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

@Kayitsiz: Well then I disagree with the Poster of this idea. There is balance. But it is player-controlled, since nobody forces people to use certain weapons, etc.

We all choose how we play. I repeat yet again, in Tanki Online, you're not playing against AI's.

 

It is already said in V-Log, Devs look at balance as in turret/hull usage. Lol.

If a turret/hull is barely getting any use, then it could use a buff.

Not a bad strategy considering there must be a reason why that turret isn't used much.

 

Paints, turret-changes, hull-changes, strategy, tactics, and the freedom of joining battles if your team isn't good.

Man, so many solutions. But since you can't win, you try to make extreme changes that affect everybody? No way.

That, is absurd. I don't think people who suggest these kinds of extreme ideas understand that you are not the only one who plays the game. :rolleyes:

Or if they do, they surely aren't paying much attention to it.

[ThouShallNot 963]

You DO realize that it is just teamwork and lots of drugs, ryt ?

Correction

[deadtoyou 2,502]

It's the main point of this idea. We don't make an army, right? This is a game that theorically contains a balance.

He think that this situation breaks balance and this idea can fix it.

But then my Isida is at a disadvantage.....I can't help the other Isidas in my team. :rolleyes:

[trombone_ftw 734]

I say just remove Isida entirely :lol: