valid Crystal fines in addition to bans for violations

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

A think a big part of Tanki Online, is keeping it clean of violators. But how can we actually keep it clean? Bans? People have gotten used to them already.

So here's my idea: A serious violation will not only receive a ban, but will loose crystals. But before you all jump on my neck and say "Loose crystals for insult and trolling? Crazy!" I want to tell you how it all works.

Warnings are warnings and you will not loose anything crystals from them. But a couple of bans, and you will loose some crystals.

 

- Swearing / Insult / Racism etc.

• 1st time: However long ban.
• 2nd time: However long ban.
• 3rd time: However long ban + 2,000 crystal fine.
• 4th time: However long ban + 2,000 crystal fine.
• 5th time: However long ban + 2,000 crystal fine.
• 6th time: However long ban + 2,500 crystal fine.
• 7th time: However long ban + 2,500 crystal fine.
• 8th time: However long ban + 3,000 crystal fine.
• Rest continue with however long ban +  3,500 crystal fine.

- Sabotaging a battle:

• 1st time: However long ban.
• 2nd time: However long ban + 500 crystal fine.
• 3rd time: However long ban + 1,000 crystal fine.
• 4th time: However long ban + 1,000 crystal fine.
• 5th time: However long ban + 3,000 crystal fine.
• Rest continue with however long ban + 4,000 crystal fine.

- Trading account:

• 1st time: However long ban.
• 2nd time: However long ban.
• 3rd time: However long ban + 1,000 crystal fine.
• 4th time: However long ban + 2,000 crystal fine.
• 5th time: However long ban + 4,000 crystal fine.
• Rest continue with however long ban + 5,500 crystal fine.

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- Facts:

• You will be able to know how many times you did the violation, for example; a hacker hacked twice, he doesn't want to get blocked so he checks a 'certain chart' to see that if he does it one more time, he's blocked.
• Small violations, such as flood, and trolling in forum, will not have crystal fines. Because they're small, duh.
• If you can't pay up the crystals you owe, you pay as much as you can and that'll be enough.
• Once Brigadier, all fines are doubled. Yes, I know I'm mean but it's the way it has to be.

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Frequently asked questions:

 

QUESTION: It's a horrible idea for non-buyers. Why should their crystals be lost after they worked so hard?

ANSWER: To show them that the rules aren't a joke. Don't want to loose crystals and get a ban? Don't break the rules.

 

 

Edited May 13, 2017 by Maf

[deadtoyou 2,502]

Valid

[vltr]

 

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I would like to add that Generalissimos would shrug off 2000 crystals, so the fine should be determined by rank.

 

On 4/2/2015 at 6:23 AM, Yisroel.Rabin said:

- You will be able to know how many times you did the violation, for example; a hacker hacked twice, he doesn't want to get blocked so he checks a 'certain chart' to see that if he does it one more time, he's blocked.

They shouldn't even be crossing the line, not even coming up close. Just to say "Oh, I can get banned 2 more times before it gets serious, so I'm okay" is not "OK". I think doing it even once gets you a fine depending on the rank and violation. Although having a chart to see your ban history is a good idea. (Something only you can see ;))

 

On 4/2/2015 at 6:23 AM, Yisroel.Rabin said:

- Small violations, such as flood, and trolling in forum, will not have crystal fines

I suppose.....but then what will discourage people from doing it? I think maybe a 500 crystal fine for a 5 minute ban, and so on.......

 

On 4/2/2015 at 6:23 AM, Yisroel.Rabin said:

- If you can pay up the crystals you owe, you'd be from chat until you pay up. If you don't like that idea, think of a better one and post below.

People would be banned anyway, so they wouldn't really care......so how about a minus amount of crystals? Like, if they get fined 15,000, and they only have 12,000, then they would have -3,000?

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

I would like to add that Generalissimos would shrug off 2000 crystals, so the fine should be determined by rank.

I don't understand, what?

 

I suppose.....but then what will discourage people from doing it? I think maybe a 500 crystal fine for a 5 minute ban, and so on....... :)

It's not worth it to flood then get banned for a day. That's what discourages them from it.

 

People would be banned anyway, so they wouldn't really care......so how about a minus amount of crystals? Like, if they get fined 15,000, and they only have 12,000, then they would have -3,000?

Added.

[deadtoyou 2,502]

I don't understand, what?

A Generalissimo would not care about 2,000 crystals. 15,000, or 20,000, however......so the Crystal Fine amount should depend on the rank. For instance, if your rank is Major, the fine would be 5 or 6 thousand........and if you are Generalissimo, you have a bigger fine because your rank is bigger.

 

It's not worth it to flood then get banned for a day. That's what discourages them from it.

The problem is, I ask the people who flood, and most of the time, they either want it, or they don't care about getting banned. :)

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

A Generalissimo would not care about 2,000 crystals. 15,000, or 20,000, however......so the Crystal Fine amount should depend on the rank. For instance, if your rank is Major, the fine would be 5 or 6 thousand........and if you are Generalissimo, you have a bigger fine because your rank is bigger.

I get it, I'll edit post tomorrow or some other time.

[KNELSEN4 177]

I think this would really help enforce the rules

[deadtoyou 2,502]

I think this would really help enforce the rules

Of course, because so many players I see just do it for fun, they want a ban, they don't care, or they do it just to push the Moderators, and see how far they can go without getting banned. Having a Crystal fine would make people think twice. :)

Edited April 2, 2015 by deadtoyou

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

Or three time...

[POWERFULLSOUL 78]

for Sabotage and hacking, crystals loss should be very high like 100k etc -_-  . If they dont own that amount of crystals then it will go negative amount :lol:

Edited April 2, 2015 by POWERFULLSOUL

[deadtoyou 2,502]

for Sabotage and hacking, crystals loss should be very high like 100k etc -_-  . If they dont own that amount of crystals then it will go negative amount :lol:

Agreed. Imagine a hacker getting a 1k Gold Box and then getting a ban/block with a 100k fine. :lol: :P Serves them right.....

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

For Sabotage and hacking, crystals loss should be very high like 100k etc.

Done.

Edited April 2, 2015 by Yisroel.Rabin

[SportsKing700 153]

Giving chances for hacking though? Way to big of a price to pay for hacking. 20k - 40k is reasonable but they should only have one chance. Not sure of the new rest though. If this was implemented into the game, they should not add the former karma to this. I would give the hackers one chance and that is all. 130k is way to much for a fine.

[GODOFWAR1516 1]

for hacking a player musts report to TO there are no automatic ban and if a player record and send to TO he will blocked as he has done a very cheap thing and no 2nd chance should be given to him

[canadarules 1,938]

A think a big part of Tanki, is keeping it clean of violators? But how can we actually keep it clean? Bans? people have gotten used to them already.

So here's my idea: A serious violation will not only receive a ban, but will loose crystals. But before you all jump on my neck and say "Loose crystals for insult and trolling? Crazy!" I want to tell you how it all works.

Warnings are warnings and you will not loose anything crystals from them. But a couple of bans, and you will loose some crystals.

- Swearing / Insult / Racism etc.

• 1st time: However long ban.
• 2nd time: However long ban.
• 3rd time: However long ban + 2,000 crystal fine.
• 4th time: However long ban + 2,000 crystal fine.
• 5th time: However long ban + 2,000 crystal fine.
• 6th time: However long ban + 2,500 crystal fine.
• 7th time: However long ban + 2,500 crystal fine.
• 8th time: However long ban + 5,000 crystal fine.
• Rest continue with however long ban + 5,500 crystal fine.

- Sabotaging a battle:

• 1st time: However long ban.
• 2nd time: However long ban + 500 crystal fine.
• 3rd time: However long ban + 1,000 crystal fine.
• 4th time: However long ban + 1,000 crystal fine.
• 5th time: However long ban + 3,000 crystal fine.
• Rest continue with however long ban + 4,000 crystal fine.

- Hacking:

• 1st time: However long ban + 50,000 crystal fine.
• 2nd time: However long ban + 130,000 crystal fine.
• 3rd time: Block.

- Trading account:

• 1st time: However long ban.
• 2nd time: However long ban.
• 3rd time: However long ban + 1,000 crystal fine.
• 4th time: However long ban + 2,000 crystal fine.
• 5th time: However long ban + 4,000 crystal fine.
• Rest continue with however long ban + 5,500 crystal fine.

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- You will be able to know how many times you did the violation, for example; a hacker hacked twice, he doesn't want to get blocked so he checks a 'certain chart' to see that if he does it one more time, he's blocked.

- Small violations, such as flood, and trolling in forum, will not have crystal fines

- If you can pay up the crystals you owe, you'd have minus amount of crystals. If you don't like that idea, think of a better one and post below.

- Once Marshal, all mines are tripled. Yes, I know I'm mean but it's the way it has to be. All 1st bans without a crystals fine will have an 1,000 crystal fine (ex; Trading account: 2nd time: However long ban + 1,000 crystal fine)

and this is how you get people to A quit or B never buy from the game.. thanks for trying to bankrupt the game :)

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

and this is how you get people to A quit or B never buy from the game.. thanks for trying to bankrupt the game :)

Yea, it makes violators quit.

[SportsKing700 153]

Yea, it makes violators quit.

Yea, and it will decrease buyers, because that means if they get banned its basically flushing money down the toliet ._.

Edited April 2, 2015 by SportsKing700

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

Yea, and it will decrease buyers, because that means if they get banned its basically flushing money down the toliet ._.

Then don't get banned! Don't you get it? It's the whole point.

[wild001 786]

most mult acc has 0 crystal.

 

they are high rank made alt acc specially for mult, so crystal pubishing got no use.

Edited April 2, 2015 by wild001

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

most mult acc has 0 crystal.

 

they are high rank made alt acc specially for mult, so crystal pubishing got no use.

Leaving mult and hack aside for now. For profanity, it's good or no?

[canadarules 1,938]

Yea, it makes violators quit.

Exactly so this is just a dumb idea and it will never be implemented because tanki will not take away from people who have earned those crystals and also this could create more of a problem for non buyers if they want to buy something on sale.. so i will never see this happening. wouldn't be shocked to see this closed by hazel or another forum mod

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

Exactly so this is just a dumb idea and it will never be implemented because tanki will not take away from people who have earned those crystals and also this could create more of a problem for non buyers if they want to buy something on sale.. so i will never see this happening. wouldn't be shocked to see this closed by hazel or another forum mod

Listen to me. Don't want to have any problems and pay crystals? Don't get banned! This is the whole purpose, it will help people think twice before doing something wrong because now they know they'll actually loose something. As a result, less people will end up breaking the rules. And trust me, Tanki Devs want that.

[canadarules 1,938]

No no it won't, people already as it is have trouble getting enough crystals for equipment. Most don't care about bans and you can't change who people are in reality to be honest. Doing this will just make the mult problem worse and banning forever will just get the consumer mad and make them leave

Result : 1000 people on tanki (you and maddog can have fun)

Edited April 2, 2015 by canadarules

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

I don't want to deal with you. I quit.

[canadarules 1,938]

I don't want to deal with you. I quit.

cool story bro, I win than :D

[corpsecrusher2 53]

Very very bad for non-buyers, sorry but i think it's a bad idea.