Changes in the parameters of turrets and hulls

[semyonkirov 29,038]

 

Tankers!

 

Hammer and Vulcan have now been in the game for some time. Now, we finally have all the data we need to properly analyze the current balance of the game. Players have learned how to use these turrets effectively, so they have become more dangerous than originally intended.

 

As a result, we decided to slightly increase Vulcan’s self-damage and Hammer’s cone of pellets. These are not the main changes, as the balance has been corrected by strengthening all the other turrets. Detailed descriptions of each turret’s changes can be found below.

 

Firebird

• Increase in burning damage
• Increase in recharge speed

Freeze

• Different freezing effect for enemy turrets and hulls — turrets are slowed down better, hulls are freezed less effectively
• Increase in damage
• Decrease in amount of energy
• Increase in recharge speed

Isida

• Increase in range
• Decrease in cone width
• Increase in amount of energy
• Increase in recharge speed

Hammer

• Slower reloading speed
• Wider cone of pellets

Twins

• Serious increase in close-range damage
• Decrease in long-range damage
• Increase in projectile speed

Ricochet

• Increase in effective range
• Faster reloading
• Higher impact force

Smoky

• Increase in standard damage
• Decrease in critical damage

Vulcan

• Increase in burning self-damage
• Slower turret rotation speed when firing
• Lower impact force

Thunder

• Increase in damage
• Decrease in rate of fire
• Reworked splash damage mechanism

Railgun

• Increase in firing rate

Shaft

• Increase in damage per shot when in arcade mode

All medium and heavy hulls have received a boost to steering, making them easier to maneuver. Additionally, Viking and Hunter have swapped weight. Viking is now heavier than Hunter. More information on the changes is below.

 

Wasp

• Increase in weight
• Increase in acceleration

Hornet

• Increase in weight

Hunter

• Decrease in weight
• Increase in maneuverability

Viking

• Increase in weight

Dictator

• Increase in maneuverability

Titan

• Increase in weight
• Increase in maneuverability

Mammoth

• Increase in maneuverability

By the way, for all the techies out there, we’ve prepared a super-detailed spreadsheet with all the changes. It can be found here.

 

Make sure you share your thoughts on the update in the comments below, as well as using a poll.

[genak138 950]

Thunder, in my opinion, is too OP now. I will give my opinions on the other turrets when I have more experience against them.

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

I think this will be good, barely any turrets got worse. ^_^

Thunder, in my opinion, is too OP now. I will give my opinions on the other turrets when I have more experience against them.

Thunder always needed some boosting, it's damage was always UP for it's look.

Edited April 23, 2015 by Yisroel.Rabin

[lukey0 27,543]

Will have to try out Ricochet and Firebird, one of them will be my alts new M2.

 

Rustle also looks like a great protection paint now, all the guns it protects from have gotten a big boost. :lol:

 

Hunter also feels better driving now with a little drift, I like that change. Its like an oversized Hornet. :lol:

 

 

 

After playing with/against some of then improved guns I noticed:

 

Twins: has received the buff it needs, it can now compete with other guns.

 

Ricochet: is very powerful now, but the speed it shoots its plasma is perfect. 

 

Thunder: has the required damage but maybe just a little faster reload, it feels like a Railgun.

 

Firebird/Isida/Hammer/Shaft: not much difference here.

 

Freeze: very high damage, though the tank stays frozen for way too long now, before you changed the freezing time it was fine.

 

Vulcan: a massive nerf. 

 

 

The heavy hulls getting their turning speed boosted was also a really good choice. 

Edited April 23, 2015 by lukey0

[i..0R4NG3 745]

Idk what to get now O_O

Edited April 23, 2015 by i..0R4NG3

[jordanrusson 3]

When will be the open testing of these, as mentioned in the V-LOG?

[D.E.T.E.C.T.I.V.E 413]

R.I.P  

[Yisroel.Rabin 16,224]

Idk what to get now O_O

Get turret dat smells best  :ph34r:

 

 

Whatever that means :lol:

 

 

 

R.I.P  

Yes, R.I.P. crystal boxes. :(

Do not fear dear blue boxes, we will say to the heaven opens it's heart and allows you to drop from the clouds once more. :)

Edited April 23, 2015 by Yisroel.Rabin

[genak138 950]

 

Thunder always needed some boosting, it's damage was always UP for it's look.

Correction: Thunder was always considered OP. Now it's even more so.

[fluctuation123 3,435]

can some smoky m3 user can inform whether it changed for better or worse?

[applications_tanki 129]

i like this but i think ricochect should be downgraded a little bit and titian m3 should have a little bit more armor

Edited April 23, 2015 by applications_tanki

[NatchGa 665]

YES ricochet is now more OP than ever HAHAHAHA XD 

Is Titan heavier than mammoth now? I hope so

[IjonTichy 0]

OK, seeing you asked my opinion..

Vulcan's range has always been unrealistically long.

Shaft remains shafted - when will the bugs in the turret control introduced by the mouse support be corrected?

Railguns unfair advantage is its unrealistic aiming.

Ricochet didn't need more impact force, or range.

[genak138 950]

YES ricochet is now more OP than ever HAHAHAHA XD 

Is Titan heavier than mammoth now? I hope so

Buffs on your favorite combo :rolleyes:

Edited April 23, 2015 by genak138

[DonutsForLife 292]

I am impressed, tanki has been pumping out loads of awesome new updates!

[creeperskelly 1,281]

They failed to mention that the range of damage on many turrets has been severely shortened.

 

Why make all these changes when all they had to do was to modify Vulcan and Hammer?

[mannybakshi 299]

hmm..Interesting

[ThouShallNot 963]

Thunder is not underpowered anymore :D

[0verkkill2 10]

A million updates... but SHAFT users continue to be SHAFTED!

 

PLEASE FIX THE SHAFT'S SNIPING MODE DELAY IN SHOOTING THAT GOT BROKEN SINCE THE MOUSE CONTROLS WERE IMPLEMENTED. That 1/2 second delay after we enter snipping mode, takes away huge capability from experienced shaft players! Also diagonal aiming doesn't work after entering shaft mode as keys are held down. This used to work. Please go back and retest the pre-mouse controls version of SHAFT and compare to the now still-broken version.

 

Thanks!

 

PS. Also while I am in ****ing mode on the front page of this thread, might as well ask: Please remove those silly cement walls in SERPUHOV map that prevent tanks from driving up the side walls and hiding in the bushes. That was so much fun. Why remove the fun?! It's not like shaft users can easily hide there anyway with their laser scopes visible.  That map became way less fun after those walls went up.  :(

Edited April 23, 2015 by 0verkkill2

[Shalamer 135]

First of all, kudos to the tanki developers and administrators for constantly improving the game and making more exctiting for us. That being said, I'm not sure that some of these recent changes are making the game more exciting. The point of critical shot is just that: the suspense, you don't know when, or if, critical damage would hit in and that made playing with as well as against, funny. Now, however, with crit. being almost insignificant, Smokey, I believe, is not worth the crystals it used to be. Interestingly enough, the price hasn't changed either. The hit points have increased, but that is still not enough for smokey to get through a 1v1-trapped-in-the-corner standoff. On another note, smokey used to be a lethal weapon that, when used right, becomes op. Not everyone could just sit in a DM and pick people off. Now, honestly, im not sure anyone can. Smokey is now a distilled version of ricochet with half the impact force (and graphic awesomeness).

 

That's not to say that the update is in itself terrible. I am very satisfied with the freeze update: both the increaed hit damage, as well as the freezing mechanics. I think it wil improve gameplay for both the freezer and freezed. The same cannot be said for smokey, as I hope I have just made clear.

 

Once again, thank you for all your hard work. Obviously that doesn't mean I will stop playing the game, it just means that I might not be buying the long awaited m3 smokey at the next sale (God-willing-fingers-crossed).

 

Shal.

[r_Your-Daddy3 605]

Rico,I am coming...lol

[0verkkill2 10]

Railguns unfair advantage is its unrealistic aiming.

 

 

I completely agree. For a weapon that visually shoots like a straight line, it sure is able to bend in a huge unrealistic radius and hit tanks that are like 10-20 degrees off center. I could make an hour long video of the number of times I've been killed by rail when the line doesn't even hit my tank or is even 10 feet away. Heck, I've turned corners and my hull has passed the wall, and I still get killed. It's ridiculous.

[GunsBlazzing 2]

Glad they rolled out this update before I updated to Vulcan M2, what a waste of crystals that would have been. They made my gun royally suck now. Less damage, turns slower when firing, less distance, heats up faster with more damage to hull, so can kill yourself twice as fast. Thanks developers for making the gun I have sank all my crystals into suck now. Thumbs up, not. Oh, ricochet needed more impact force? the gun already shook a mammoth m1 off it's tracks. Freeze being improved drastically, are you kidding? I already couldn't move my turret when one sneaks up on you. All you can do is sit there and watch all 250 of my health deplete with no way to retaliate. You guys are a joke.

[vanshajwore 324]

I think this will be good, barely any turrets got worse. ^_^

Thunder always needed some boosting, it's damage was always UP for it's look.

Yes, thunder was definately UP.. Now i can finally use it :)

[r_Nishanth0 19]

Awesome ready to get wasp m2 and no more hornets in the game titan reborn..thx Dev..