are you really so smart afterall? No you are not.

[genlost 2]

regretfully     this  game has become so much worse as far as the competitiveness or LACK there of............All my stuff is upgraded to the max and I have 12 paints of which "0" allowed me to stay in a battle. not one paint was worth anything to me. I have spent lots on crystals and upgrades and for what?  I think that rebates or refunds should come to those that invested a great deal to have certain hulls, turrents and paints in order to best compete but when the "powers to be" arbitrarily decide to change the rules / parameters of equipment already bought and paid for then a refund is in order because i do not have now what i paid for earlier. This is so wrong and you will start to lose long term regular players. Extremely dumb business plan. I really wish someone that matters would rethink the most current changes and remove them all together. I want what I paid for. I am so pissed at you people and untill changes are made to correct the stupidity that rules the day I will actively lobby and campaign against this once wonderful concept of a game. Is this just pure greed or trying to be so smart that you cant see clearly anymore. SO MAD   SO disappointed       just NUKE the game and start over and give me back my money fricking greedy pigs   so dumb

 

[GODOFWAR15 97]

stay calm i think u have bought many many crys and u have played TO alot so i think u r bored a bit and u play less or u don't play and u thinking how u get back ur money which u spend on buying crys so ur blaming the equipments and update that all i think B)

[deadmanrising 719]

 

regretfully     this  game has become so much worse as far as the competitiveness or LACK there of............All my stuff is upgraded to the max and I have 12 paints of which "0" allowed me to stay in a battle. not one paint was worth anything to me. I have spent lots on crystals and upgrades and for what?  I think that rebates or refunds should come to those that invested a great deal to have certain hulls, turrents and paints in order to best compete but when the "powers to be" arbitrarily decide to change the rules / parameters of equipment already bought and paid for then a refund is in order because i do not have now what i paid for earlier. This is so wrong and you will start to lose long term regular players. Extremely dumb business plan. I really wish someone that matters would rethink the most current changes and remove them all together. I want what I paid for. I am so pissed at you people and untill changes are made to correct the stupidity that rules the day I will actively lobby and campaign against this once wonderful concept of a game. Is this just pure greed or trying to be so smart that you cant see clearly anymore. SO MAD   SO disappointed       just NUKE the game and start over and give me back my money fricking greedy pigs   so dumb

 

What hulls and turrets are you complaining about in particular?

[deadtoyou 2,515]

Well, after reading a rant like that, I have a few things to say first:

1. Ideas regarding the removal of updates are not accepted.
2. Threatening to "lobby" and "campaign" against the game won't be very effective.
3. They might be releasing more improvements to further balance the game.

[Maf 32,849]

The game doesn't owe you anything and the developers reserve the right to change whatever they want without responsibilities towards the players. The money you put into the game is a DONATION, therefore you pay at your own risk and the developers owe you nothing for that money. They might decide to shut the game down completely one day after you invest $10,000 and you will still not be able to get that money back. Think of it this way: you like to play this game, you decide to thank the developers by donating some money to them, but they thank you for your donation by giving you crystals to use in the game. It's not like a usual purchase at a shop where you can expect to get a reliable product for your money.

 

It's like if you were giving money to charities and when the charity suddenly decided to close or change their field of operation, you come and ask for your money back. Which is wrong.

 

As for your claim that the game is losing players - the decrease you see on the graphs on the main change is caused by seasonal trends and the numbers always go down during spring. Google Trends will prove my point.

[Meowmix56 174]

 

but when the "powers to be" arbitrarily decide to change the rules / parameters of equipment already bought and paid for

 

Occasionally tweaks in balance are the only decent way to keep players interested.  Just look at any online game with decent longevity such as WOW or tf2.  That said good equipment should not be made worthless for fear of alienating customers, but has that really happened yet?

 

The money given for equipment is a purchase, and at least in most countries superficially calling it a donation does not change the nature of the transaction.  That doesn't mean they don't reserve the right to change or delete equipment or even wipe accounts but if they for example failed to deliver virtual currency the purchaser would have a strong argument.

[PopChaser 60]

Occasionally tweaks in balance are the only decent way to keep players interested. 

They seem to be failing at that.  I have played exactly one game in the last 40 days, fifteen minutes just to test some of the modifications to equipment.  I discovered that the weapons I have bought and learned to use have been changed so much that I am a total NooB again.  The server load data on the entry page says that Tanki has about 10,000 fewer players a day less at maximum than they did last year on these dates.  There are fewer active servers and there has been no official comment on that, so I worry that the game will suddenly vanish.  I used to buy crystals, but the price has been increased and it would be a shame if the game went offline leaving me with a pile of virtual currency.

[dilsharox 2,427]

 i agree that the new paints aren't that good but ideas regarding removal of updates are not accepted

& just because u fell pissed off at this game u dont have to campaign about it

if u bought crys & now you're not satisfied with it thats your problem

[jazz20 1,182]

When Unity comes, you'll get a complete new restart in your garage.....hopefully. Of course, prices might go up :/

[PopChaser 60]

if u bought crys & now you're not satisfied with it thats your problem

No.  I bought a prepaid card.  When I went to buy crystals, the price had been raised 25% with no prior announcement.  I am holding a prepaid card that is not accepted by anybody selling anything I want to buy online.

[T.O.T.A.L.W.A.R 581]

Games balancing happens all the time in many games. lol just had a re-balance by the way. 

[beaku 2,661]

When Unity comes, you'll get a complete new restart in your garage.....hopefully. Of course, prices might go up :/

You will transfer your garage to Unity. There will certainly be no change in balance of hulls and turrets.

[jazz20 1,182]

You will transfer your garage to Unity. There will certainly be no change in balance of hulls and turrets.

darn :/

[dilsharox 2,427]

No.  I bought a prepaid card.  When I went to buy crystals, the price had been raised 25% with no prior announcement.  I am holding a prepaid card that is not accepted by anybody selling anything I want to buy online.

who are u?

[c-o-n-q-u-e-s-t 1,919]

Are you sane after all? No, you are definitely not.

[FaaiqBilal1 795]

The only complaint I can register from this is that your garage isn't useful anymore. Either you aren't that good at controlling your equipment, or they were nerfed. The latter is the only thing I would agree with. The developers change the game's physics without refund, partially (or completely) changing the reason why you bought a particular gun/hull. A balance should be made once, and that should be a final, tanki has never done a good job at creating weapon balance and always require ammendments, which either partially fix the problem or make it much worse, lately, they've followed the latter. I believe that they should balance the weapons once, and just ONCE. I guess that can only be done with proper and extensive testing. If a weapon is too weak, make it strong and leave the others as they are. If the weapon is too strong, make it weaker! Don't disrupt the rest! The conflict lies where the developers change the statistics of all the weapons at once, creating a whole new type of imbalance.

 

Every time the developers balance the guns/hulls, they say that they will continue changing statistics, which is absolutely unfair since your investment will be sullied. A solution? Try to balance out the current Turrets/Hulls and keep them on constant testing for atleast a month, collect all the feedback and create a balance according to that. Repeat this process until the players are content with the specifications.

[beaku 2,661]

@FaaiqBilal1 There is something you should know : Tanki has Dynamic balance. This means that it changes continuously. We cannot have a static balance. That would make the game dull and boring. Everytime the balance changes, a new challenge comes along with it. Some times, it gives advantage to Thunder, sometimes to Ricochet and so on... This doesn't mean that everytime rebalance occurs, a refund has to be done. Rebalance does not and will not affect game in such a drastic way so as to make refund necessary. I have been a thunder user for more than 2 years but never have I felt the immense need for refund. There is never proper balance at M0/M1/M2/EarlyM3 stage due to difference in unlock rank, cost and discounts and there will never be a perfectly proper balance at these stages. However, at Final stage, when everyone has what they want, every turret is equally useful. No rebalance is meant to equalise power of all turrets but to make game more dynamic.

[r_priyangshu0 271]

@beaku: They have rebalanced Thunder back to it's old version. So why did they change it in the first place? Thunder has now become a camping weapon with it's slower reload, which doesn't fit in a dynamic game. They are making things OP and UP so often, reliability of equipment has been trashed for game dynamics.

[genlost 2]

The game doesn't owe you anything and the developers reserve the right to change whatever they want without responsibilities towards the players. The money you put into the game is a DONATION, therefore you pay at your own risk and the developers owe you nothing for that money. They might decide to shut the game down completely 1 day after you invest $10,000 and you will still not be able to get that money back. Think of it this way: you like to play this game, you decide to thank the developers by donating some money to them, but they thank you for your donation by giving you crystals to use in the game. It's not like a usual purchase at a shop where you can expect to get a reliable product for your money.

 

It's like if you were giving money to charities and when the charity suddenly decided to close or change their field of operation, you come and ask for your money back. Which is wrong.

 

As for your claim that the game is losing players - the decrease you see on the graphs on the main change is caused by seasonal trends and the numbers always go down during spring, while Google Trends will prove you otherwise.

Your not a very bright or experienced capitalist are you?    Geeezzzzz

[FaaiqBilal1 795]

@FaaiqBilal1 There is something you should know : Tanki has Dynamic balance. This means that it changes continuously. We cannot have a static balance. That would make the game dull and boring. Everytime the balance changes, a new challenge comes along with it. Some times, it gives advantage to Thunder, sometimes to Ricochet and so on... This doesn't mean that everytime rebalance occurs, a refund has to be done. Rebalance does not and will not affect game in such a drastic way so as to make refund necessary. I have been a thunder user for more than 2 years but never have I felt the immense need for refund. There is never proper balance at M0/M1/M2/EarlyM3 stage due to difference in unlock rank, cost and discounts and there will never be a perfectly proper balance at these stages. However, at Final stage, when everyone has what they want, every turret is equally useful. No rebalance is meant to equalise power of all turrets but to make game more dynamic.

If they wanted to add dynamics, they would add a wider variety to play with, not lower it down. Besides, if there was a balance, you would actually have more weapons to play with, not one or two which simple dominate. 

[Maf 32,849]

Your not a very bright or experienced capitalist are you?    Geeezzzzz

What's your point? If you think I'm wrong - explain why.

[deadmanrising 719]

What's your point? If you think I'm wrong - explain why.

Perhaps he is coming from a negligence point of view, the developers neglecting the game and not making the features of the game as promising as they were, but you cannot prove this as you have stated, so the developers do not owe money to anyone

 

The developers themselves are not in control of the game, that is activia platform, if you want to sue the game you will probably have to sue them

[Maf 32,849]

The developers themselves are not in control of the game, that is activia platform, if you want to sue the game you will probably have to sue them

Erm, I'm pretty sure you're mixing something up. Alternativa Platform (not activia  :P) is the developers' gaming company - they own it and they control it. Tanki Online is one of their projects. It's not the only one, but it's their biggest and most successful. So yeah if there are any issues or unexpected changes with the game - the developers are directly responsible for them.

[T.O.T.A.L.W.A.R 581]

 developers' .... developers 

Them developers !!!  :D

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-FkalybggA