A New System To Punish Rule Breakers

[Fatal-Attraction 80]

The purpose of this post is to submit an idea to punish players who break the game rules


Punishment for breaking the rules is either a chat band, a temporary account band, or a permanent account band. I submit that chat band punishment and all other forms of punitive actions to be eliminate and replaced by imposed fines and reduction of points. On the players home page, or a pop up when logged in, should be a monthly tally of all fines and reduction of points. This will remind the violator of how much crystals and points that have been lost and help modify his/her behavior.

Point Reduction

If one offends more than once, it is possible that the player could be demoted in rank. Should the player be demoted, and if he has weapons that does not fit the rank, then the weapons, too, should be rolled back. This must be because he/she would have more advanced weapons and tanks than the other players. This would give him/her an unfair advantage and throw the game off balance. The player must buy back all upgrades.

The Assignment Of Point Value To Offences

If this idea is considered and implemented, I summit that the fines and point reduction be carefully thought out. One fine for all will not be fair. Fines and point reductions should be base on the level of offence. For example: insulting and/or provoking someone is far less of an offence than sexual content, and obscenity is less of an offence than sexual content. A point value should be assigned to each offence in order of the seriousness to levy an appropriate fine and point deduction.

Advantages/Incentives

1. Those who purchase Crystals will have far more incentive to follow the rules. Even if one does not purchase Crystals will have an incentive to follow the rules, for the Crystals and points they earned took much time and play to earn. Losing Crystals would be hurt more than any other punishment.

2. If a player loses enough Crystals, he/she wont be able to upgrade fast enough to compete.

3. Assigning fines and point deductions to every offence would take discretion from a moderator of Administrator. This would be fairer to the player and reduce cost of time of arbitration, thus savings in manpower cost.



4. The advantage for Tanki is enormous. If Tanki blocked an account, then there would be no potential for the player to buy Crystals. If a player loses enough Crystals and points, he/she will have to reform to continue playing. Tanki won’t lose a customer and  would see an increase of players.


Ideas And Suggestions Regarding Fines And Point Deductions

For chat offences I suggest the fines start at 250 Crystals and 500 point deduction.
For every level of seriousness of the offence, the fine will be increasef by 50 Crystals and a 100 point deduction

Serious offences such as: scamming, hacking or attempting to hack a players account, using third party software to cheat and/or to gain an unfair advantage (such as rendering “hacks“) warrants (to my opinion) automatic confiscation of all points earned, deduction of at least one rank, a 10,000 Crystal fine, and a 30 day account band.

I would also like to see the cheater castrated, but I know that won’t happen.

NOTE: an automatic debit system should be implement. If the player does not have enough crystals to pay a fine, all earned crystals will be confiscated until the fine is paid.

[PowerStrike1.1 270]

 

 

The purpose of this post is to submit an idea to punish players who break the game rules


Punishment for breaking the rules is either a chat band, a temporary account band, or a permanent account band. I submit that chat band punishment and all other forms of punitive actions to be eliminate and replaced by imposed fines and reduction of points. On the players home page, or a pop up when logged in, should be a monthly tally of all fines and reduction of points. This will remind the violator of how much crystals and points that have been lost and help modify his/her behavior.

Point Reduction

If one offends more than once, it is possible that the player could be demoted in rank. Should the player be demoted, and if he has weapons that does not fit the rank, then the weapons, too, should be rolled back. This must be because he/she would have more advanced weapons and tanks than the other players. This would give him/her an unfair advantage and throw the game off balance. The player must buy back all upgrades. What a waste of crystals. Having to buy back all upgrades as a punishment does not seem fair. You could either do a temporary demotion.

The Assignment Of Point Value To Offences

If this idea is considered and implemented, I summit that the fines and point reduction be carefully thought out. One fine for all will not be fair. Fines and point reductions should be base on the level of offence. For example: insulting and/or provoking someone is far less of an offence than sexual content, and obscenity is less of an offence than sexual content. A point value should be assigned to each offence in order of the seriousness to levy an appropriate fine and point deduction. Temporary demotion is what I'd say.

Advantages/Incentives

1. Those who purchase Crystals will have far more incentive to follow the rules. Even if one does not purchase Crystals will have an incentive to follow the rules, for the Crystals and points they earned took much time and play to earn. Losing Crystals would be hurt more than any other punishment. Temporary demotion of rank and equipment is more fair.

2. If a player loses enough Crystals, he/she wont be able to upgrade fast enough to compete. As I said about temporary instead of permanent.

3. Assigning fines and point deductions to every offence would take discretion from a moderator of Administrator. This would be fairer to the player and reduce cost of time of arbitration, thus savings in manpower cost. Ridiculous demotions of equipment disturb me unless temporary.



4. The advantage for Tanki is enormous. If Tanki blocked an account, then there would be no potential for the player to buy Crystals. If a player loses enough Crystals and points, he/she will have to reform to continue playing. Tanki won’t lose a customer and  would see an increase of players. Wait, what?


Ideas And Suggestions Regarding Fines And Point Deductions

For chat offences I suggest the fines start at 250 Crystals and 500 point deduction. So minor yet absurdly bad consequences(or maybe not).
For every level of seriousness of the offence, the fine will be increasef by 50 Crystals and a 100 point deduction

Serious offences such as: scamming, hacking or attempting to hack a players account, using third party software to cheat and/or to gain an unfair advantage (such as rendering “hacks“) warrants (to my opinion) automatic confiscation of all points earned, deduction of at least one rank, a 10,000 Crystal fine, and a 30 day account band. 10 000 crystal reduction?

I would also like to see the cheater castrated, but I know that won’t happen.

NOTE: an automatic debit system should be implement. If the player does not have enough crystals to pay a fine, all earned crystals will be confiscated until the fine is paid.

 

 

[beaku 2,656]

Crystal and Score deduction is already a part of punishments given. However, such punishments depend upon the discretion of administration.

 

 

4.2.2. Cutdown of all the User’s virtual values in the Game (garage, crystals, game statistics) by 10% to 100% or setting the Account to zero.

 

 

[Fatal-Attraction 80]

You reply is Laughable three square. You give the same opinion many times.....and what’s with the copy of my entire post? And I couldn't help noticing that you commented on all ideas, but omitted a comment about castration. Please, no more comments from you w3. You give me a headache

beaku: I'm aware this. And you total missed the point. I talking about making this the main form of punishment.

The Admin has discretion, and this is a flaw in the system. It is a potential for unfair treatment and admin abuse. The fine should be well defined for each rule, taking the power of discretion away from an admin.

 

I think my idea is good, so long as the fines are big enough to do the job.
 

[ThouShallNot 963]

Horrible idea, you take away people's crystals when they get banned (especially non-buyers) they will just quit the game, haven't you ever been banned for no reason? i guess not yet.

[Fatal-Attraction 80]

One answer, W3: No I was not dropped as a baby. And you, 3 square, are reported.

 

corpsecrusher: I disagree. I think my idea is good idea, one that will make tanki a much better and more fun game. And I disagree that they would quit the game. Reason? If the fine and point reduction is ridiculously hard, I'm sure they would quit, but if the fine isn't to harsh, and if they like the game enough, I don't believe they'd quit. If they rack up enough fines and point reductions to get demoted, then they might quit. but so what? We don't need them.

My suggested punishment for these idiots who use third party software is sure damn hard, and they might quit. But so what? they would have been banded anyways. But not all would quit. You can be damn sure that those who don't quit won't use a "hack" again. Either way, the Tanki community wins.

 

I like the idea about taking away discretion away for the admin. Why? because I have been banned for no good reason. And sometimes the the band is far to hard/unfair for the offense.

[PowerStrike1.1 270]

One answer, W3: No I was not dropped as a baby. And you, 3 square, are reported.

 

corpsecrusher: I disagree. I think my idea is good idea, one that will make tanki a much better and more fun game. And I disagree that they would quit the game(Because they love have being banned and having a fine for a minor violation?). Reason? If the fine and point reduction is ridiculously hard, I'm sure they would quit, but if the fine isn't to harsh, and if they like the game enough, I don't believe they'd quit(So the fines for such small violations are good? No.). If they rack up enough fines and point reductions to get demoted, then they might quit. but so what? We don't need them(Unless they donated and contributed something good to the game.).

My suggested punishment for these idiots who use third party software is sure damn hard, and they might quit. But so what? they would have been banded anyways. But not all would quit(They're a lot of rage quitters, I'm sure a small violation with a fine is ridiculous for them.). You can be damn sure that those who don't quit won't use a "hack" again. Either way, the Tanki community wins(Unless more than 60% of the population quits because of the idea.).

 

I like the idea about taking away discretion away for the admin. Why? because I have been banned for no good reason(Maybe you don't even remember the reason.). And sometimes the the band is far to hard/unfair for the offense.

Please avoid using profane language; such as "d***".

[beaku 2,656]

Administrators are selected after long time of service and dedication. Even doubting their ability and discretion would be a mistake. They have probably seen more violations and made more decisions than all of us can even think about.

Anyway, I don't see why someone who flooded chat in heat of the battle should lose his crystals or anything like that. As you said, you were unfairly banned. Imagine if that resulted in deduction of your crystals. Pretty scary, huh?

Also, it will be tedious for devs to design another ban system to replace a perfectly good one so I doubt that this will be implemented.

[magnaboy2 656]

This already happened man,with alot of players I know of. Even Afghani,who used to lead the DD clan,Dare Devils,EN Top clan,got fined to recruit with everything lost....
So basically what you're saying here is nothing new :)
Unless you make it the main form,like you just said...

 

[beaku 2,656]

BEAKU: I'm not getting a lot of attention with this post. The little attention is pretty cold. So I guess that's that for that.

:wacko: If someone could explain what that means...

[Fatal-Attraction 80]

beaku: My reply post was deleted for some reason. I think it was because I did the blotting out a certain word with *

 

I guess you didn't understand because you don't understand American English.....how we say things........my fault.

I'll rewrite  my reply.

 

Not many people are responding to my post. The few people who have, don't like my idea. Oh well. You win some and you lose some,

 

Magnaboy: I'd like to reply with some thoughts of my own, but it's off topic and I might end up getting chat banned.                                         

 

I  could complain on a new thread, but I could get chat band for criticizing the Tanki regime..... you just never know.

 

I'll say this and nothing more. This is a Dutch company. Europeans don't think of and value free and open speech like Americans.

If Tanki was an American site, there wouldn't be as much chat banning and deletion of post.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if this post gets me chat banned.

 

Best if we just it go at that.  And not go on with this thread.topic.

[deadtoyou 2,502]

I would be nicer to those who give you criticism.

 

As for the idea, 

 

 

Punishment for breaking the rules is either a chat band, a temporary account band, or a permanent account band. I submit that chat band punishment and all other forms of punitive actions to be eliminate and replaced by imposed fines and reduction of points. On the players home page, or a pop up when logged in, should be a monthly tally of all fines and reduction of points. This will remind the violator of how much crystals and points that have been lost and help modify his/her behavior.

Removing the ban punishment means that there is no way to protect players from the chat violations such as Profanity, Insults, and Sexually Explicit content, which is probably the most harmful to younger players. There are many more chat violations I could speak of, but these 3 are very common. So if we have no way of punishing these violators with a ban, then what's stopping them? (I haven't even mentioned Inappropriate and phishing/scam sites! :o)

 

 

Point Reduction

 

If one offends more than once, it is possible that the player could be demoted in rank. Should the player be demoted, and if he has weapons that does not fit the rank, then the weapons, too, should be rolled back. This must be because he/she would have more advanced weapons and tanks than the other players. This would give him/her an unfair advantage and throw the game off balance. The player must buy back all upgrades.

There is such a punishment mentioned, and the Administration reserves the right to do that.....but it's most likely reserved ONLY for severe cases.

 

 

The Assignment Of Point Value To Offences

 

If this idea is considered and implemented, I summit that the fines and point reduction be carefully thought out. One fine for all will not be fair. Fines and point reductions should be base on the level of offence. For example: insulting and/or provoking someone is far less of an offence than sexual content, and obscenity is less of an offence than sexual content. A point value should be assigned to each offence in order of the seriousness to levy an appropriate fine and point deduction.

Once again, I go against any movement to remove the chat ban.

 

 

Advantages/Incentives

 

1. Those who purchase Crystals will have far more incentive to follow the rules. Even if one does not purchase Crystals will have an incentive to follow the rules, for the Crystals and points they earned took much time and play to earn. Losing Crystals would be hurt more than any other punishment.

 

2. If a player loses enough Crystals, he/she wont be able to upgrade fast enough to compete.

Some players just don't care. And anyone who buys crystals can just "get away" with violating as much as they want.

 

 

3. Assigning fines and point deductions to every offence would take discretion from a moderator or Administrator. This would be fairer to the player and reduce cost of time of arbitration, thus savings in manpower cost.

Bans issued in chat are already done so by a Moderator or Administrator. ;)

 

4. The advantage for Tanki is enormous. If Tanki blocked an account, then there would be no potential for the player to buy Crystals. If a player loses enough Crystals and points, he/she will have to reform to continue playing. Tanki won’t lose a customer and  would see an increase of players.

Not much of an advantage.....because if someone loses rank or crystals, the possibility remains that they would quit the game the same way they would if their main account was banned/blocked. I personally think more people would leave as a result.

 

Ideas And Suggestions Regarding Fines And Point Deductions

 

For chat offences I suggest the fines start at 250 Crystals and 500 point deduction.

For every level of seriousness of the offence, the fine will be increasef by 50 Crystals and a 100 point deduction

In my opinion, it's not enough.....and they can just keep doing it. And doing it. And doing it more. And there would be no way for us to stop them.

 

Serious offences such as: scamming, hacking or attempting to hack a players account, using third party software to cheat and/or to gain an unfair advantage (such as rendering “hacks“) warrants (to my opinion) automatic confiscation of all points earned, deduction of at least one rank, a 10,000 Crystal fine, and a 30 day account banned.

So you suggest removing the account ban, but then you say 30 day suspension. :huh:

 

In my opinion, I believe that crystal fines as well as bans are a good idea, but not as a replacement.

 

 

 

I'll say this and nothing more. This is a Dutch company.

Tanki is actually a Russian game made by Alternativa. ;)

[Fatal-Attraction 80]

This post is to long to reply.

 

I'll end with this:

 

I trace routed the IP: 37.48.68.14

 

This is a Dutch IP

 

If this was a Russian outfit, then that would explain  lot. .................wink wink :D

 

Don't judge: It's not racist if it's true :D

[PowerStrike1.1 270]

This post is to long to reply.

 

I'll end with this:

 

I trace routed the IP: 37.48.68.14

 

This is a Dutch IP

 

If this was a Russian outfit, then that would explain  lot. .................wink wink :D

 

Don't judge: It's not racist if it's true :D

Then it's a Russian game hosted on in Netherlands. I looked in the Wikipedia and Tanki Wiki and found out that most of the awards were Russian and it's main language I'm guessing is Russian. AlternativiaPlatform developed Tanki in Russia so technically it's Russian. Your post was probably deleted for violation of rules.

[Fatal-Attraction 80]

PowerStrike1.1 is now on my ignore list.

Bye Bye 3 square.

[genak138 950]

PowerStrike1.1 is now on my ignore list.

Bye Bye 3 square.

 

Kind of mad, no? -_-

He was just stating his opinions <.< You can't make propose an idea without expecting honest feedback. If you think people are all going to just sugarcoat it so they don't show you whether or not it's a good idea, and only show you what you want to hear, what's the point?

 

As for the actual idea:

These seem a little harsh, especially if it's something like an accidental flood. Why not just keep the chat bans but also implement your idea? Not have it replace the current system. 

 

BTW, crystal fines and rank fines are used already, just very rarely ;)

[beaku 2,656]

Then it's a Russian game hosted on in Netherlands. I looked in the Wikipedia and Tanki Wiki and found out that most of the awards were Russian and it's main language I'm guessing is Russian. AlternativiaPlatform developed Tanki in Russia so technically it's Russian. Your post was probably deleted for violation of rules.

Yep. Tanki Servers are located in Netherlands whereas it's owner, 'Alternativa Platform' has its Tanki office in Perm, Russia.

[r_TIGER_BOY_20140 78]

goodie good

[dilsharox 2,395]

this isn't new cuz its already in the game but i dont like losing crys or xp when i get banned

[PowerStrike1.1 270]

PowerStrike1.1 is now on my ignore list.

Bye Bye 3 square.

 

Thank you for showing that you don't care about other perspectives or consider someone's feedback.

[magnaboy2 656]

This post is to long to reply.

 

I'll end with this:

 

I trace routed the IP: 37.48.68.14

 

This is a Dutch IP

 

If this was a Russian outfit, then that would explain  lot. .................wink wink :D

 

Don't judge: It's not racist if it's true :D

Their servers and database are located in Holland/The Netherlands,but it's a Russian game.

If it was a Dutch game it would have a Dutch language instead of a Russian ;)

[Fatal-Attraction 80]

I've received criticism from two people over my banding of PowerStrike.

I did not banded him because of negative feed back for my idea.

I banned him because he is annoying, He writes many words, but sais

little, And what he does say is somewhat incoherent and is repeated many

times, And then there's the format of his replies....annoying.

 

And then he tried to tell me I'm wrong about this not be a Dutch outfit after I post

the IP address, for which a simple who is search would show tanki is based out of

Netherlands.

 

What was the one and only citation for he correction? Wikipedia, a few hundred word article that never mentioned who own Tanki, just where it was developed.

 

I don't have tolerance for  this level dumbness.

[PowerStrike1.1 270]

I've received criticism from two people over my banding of PowerStrike. It's technically not banning.

I did not banded him because of negative feed back for my idea. It's still technically not banning.

I banned him because he is annoying, He writes many words, but sais

little, And what he does say is somewhat incoherent and is repeated many

times, And then there's the format of his replies....annoying. Not really annoying if I have to go into further detail for you. It's not always annoying. You also have many words in your post so technically you're saying all long replies are annoying.

 

And then he tried to tell me I'm wrong about this not be a Dutch outfit after I post

the IP address, for which a simple who is search would show tanki is based out of

Netherlands. Tanki was developed in Perm Russia with servers in Netherlands.

 

What was the one and only citation for he correction? Wikipedia, a few hundred word article that never mentioned who own Tanki, just where it was developed. Look in the Tanki wiki, it also has information.

 

I don't have tolerance for  this level dumbness. Haha, more insults.

[Fatal-Attraction 80]

This post is hidden because you have chosen to ignore post by a 3 square nobody PowwerStrike1.1

 

View it anyway? y/n

 

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Inform w3 that his post will go unread and ignored y/n

 

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[PowerStrike1.1 270]

This post is hidden because you have chosen to ignore post by a 3 square nobody PowwerStrike1.1 Haha, more insults. Who's "3 square nobody"? If it's me I'm going to say that I'm a human being part of a bigger population. If that's a "nobody", every human is a nobody.

 

View it anyway? y/n

 

NO That's in your perspective, not others.

 

This post was not viewed. It may have been viewed because NOT everyone ignored it.

 

Inform w3 that his post will go unread and ignored y/n Who's "w3"?

 

YES