valid New game mode: DM-TDM crossover

[dilsharox 2,395]

Why would the battle fund be low? By that logic, the fund in TDM would be many times less than in DM and it's not. I don't see a problem with everyone being in alliances, but I highly doubt that it will happen as even now teams are uncommon in such games. Also, like I said - being in a team reduced your gun's damage, so not everyone will want to make such a sacrifice.

true but the normal way of teaming up is with the strongest so when players do that they will have less no. of players to destroy

[Maf 32,300]

true but the normal way of teaming up is with the strongest so when players do that they will have less no. of players to destroy

Tell me then why do TDMs have high funds if there are twice fewer players you can kill?

[dilsharox 2,395]

Tell me then why do TDMs have high funds if there twice fewer players you can kill?

idk about TDM's cuz i hardly play TDM's

i think DM have high funds that TDM's

[kayitsiz 621]

Tell me then why do TDMs have high funds if there twice fewer players you can kill?

TDMs doesn't have higher fund.(even unless, because you can find opponents easily)

This is always an disadvantage on DMs.

Edited May 19, 2015 by kayitsiz

[Maf 32,300]

OK, you win  :) 

But I still think this option would be an interesting alternative. The game isn't all about getting the highest funds, you know...

[kayitsiz 621]

OK, you win  :) 

 

But I still think this option would be an interesting alternative. The game isn't all about getting the highest funds, you know...

If you are generallissimo, yes.

Unless...

[advanced_tech 9]

have you asked any of the developers about there opinion regarding this idea? 

[NewbieCake 3,067]

That is a nice idea but the whole point of DM is to play solo against everyone else.So how about an alternative idea: why not create a modified team battle where you can make a customized "Friends Team" VS "Some other person's Friends Team" or  a "Regular Team".You guys are free to adjust my idea as you wish but as long as it is not a DM TEAM. Yes I know about the enable disable option thing but teaming in DM is so not right it is wrong.

Bruh. DM is pretty much Hunger Games. You're stronger in a pack instead of by youself. 

[Maf 32,300]

have you asked any of the developers about there opinion regarding this idea? 

No.

[RustyNail 1,538]

I never said that my system would replace the current DM. It would just be an alternative for those, who like teams.

Those who like teams play TDM or CTF. Those who team up in DM are just scumbags that want to exploit existing individuality in DMs.

They want the advantages of a team but only for themselves.

That's a form of cheating. Being hard to prove teaming doesn't make it less of a cheat.

 

Instead of making new rules that complex playing Tanki maybe you (the Devs I mean) should try to ban those scums from the game. Try finding ways to make hard or imposible teaming in DMs and in doing so you may promote advance anonymity* and lack of chat in DMs.

 

*a way to hide names is replace them with cryptonyms made of letters and numbers, unique for each DM.

 

 

EDIT: Maybe invoke a voting system, for possible teamers. Say, when two (or more) players act like team mates, the others may vote for them and if a critical number of votes is reached (30% of existing players?) then a monitoring is engaged regarding those that have been voted. This video can be available to a mod even after the game and should teaming is proved then BANG! penalties apply  :)

Edited May 21, 2015 by RustyNail

[advanced_tech 9]

No.

Why not ?

[Maf 32,300]

Why not ?

Because they have enough PM's to sort through without my useless ideas. If they want to find new ideas from players - they will come and look for them without me forcing my ideas into their face.

[Maf 32,300]

Those who like teams play TDM or CTF. Those who team up in DM are just scumbags that want to exploit existing individuality in DMs.

They want the advantages of a team but only for themselves.

That's a form of cheating. Being hard to prove teaming doesn't make it less of a cheat.

 

Instead of making new rules that complex playing Tanki maybe you (the Devs I mean) should try to ban those scums from the game. Try finding ways to make hard or imposible teaming in DMs and in doing so you may promote advance anonymity* and lack of chat in DMs.

 

*a way to hide names is replace them with cryptonyms made of letters and numbers, unique for each DM.

 

 

EDIT: Maybe invoke a voting system, for possible teamers. Say, when two (or more) players act like team mates, the others may vote for them and if a critical number of votes is reached (30% of existing players?) then a monitoring is engaged regarding those that have been voted. This video can be available to a mod even after the game and should teaming is proved then BANG! penalties apply  :)

Sure, let's ban all the players, who make teams in DMs. OK then, where are you going to find me 500 more high quality chat moderators, who will sort through the /vote reports and process all of them so that players don't complain that mods don't ever respond to complaints?

[kayitsiz 621]

Sure, let's ban all the players, who make teams in DMs. OK then, where are you going to find me 500 more high quality chat moderators, who will sort through the /vote reports and process all of them so that players don't complain that mods don't ever respond to complaints?

There are easier systems.

I suggestes a list and can be improved.

Even won't need a moderator...

 

 

Question: Do you see this a kind of problem or not?

 

 

Your İdea still can be, just players shouldn't be forced to face this

Edited May 21, 2015 by kayitsiz

[advanced_tech 9]

Because they have enough PM's to sort through without my useless ideas. If they want to find new ideas from players - they will come and look for them without me forcing my ideas into their face.

Your ideas are not useless ! they are sophisticated ,comprehensive and original.  :D

[Maf 32,300]

Your ideas are not useless ! they are sophisticated ,comprehensive and original.  :D

They are useless. Basically all of the topics and ideas in this sub-forum are useless, since the developers already have a long list of things they want to add to the game + the whole Unity version development. It will probably take them another 2-3 years to go through the whole list before they can go and look for more features to add.

[Maf 32,300]

Do you see this a kind of problem or not?

No. Mostly because I don't play DM. But seriously, how OP can a team be in DM? First of all you will rarely be together because when you die you'll likely respawn on opposite ends of the map and won't be able to work together until you get close to one another again. Even when you are next to each other, the best you can do it work together to destroy enemies, who attack you. This isn't much of an advantage, but on the other hand you have the disadvantage of having one less target on the battlefield, because you each agreed to not kill each other.

 

I'll tell you more. Back in 2011-2012, Rico was an extremely popular gun. I remember playing with it in Polygon DMs and at that time it was an unwritten rule that all Ricochets in a DM match are friends and should not shoot each other. As a result, the Rico players who followed that rule never won any matches, because while they were teaming up and waiting for players with other guns to respawn, the players with other guns were accumulating kills because they simply shot everyone in sight. In the end, in a 16 player battle with 8 Ricochets, the Ricos were sitting around waiting for the other 8 players to respawn, while those 8 players were killing each other and the Ricos and getting kills at a faster rate.

 

In my opinion being in a team in DM is a disadvantage and would only be good for actual friends with voice communication and good teamwork skills.

[kayitsiz 621]

No. Mostly because I don't play DM. But seriously, how OP can a team be in DM? First of all you will rarely be together because when you die you'll likely respawn on opposite ends of the map and won't be able to work together until you get close to one another again. Even when you are next to each other, the best you can do it work together to destroy enemies, who attack you. This isn't much of an advantage, but on the other hand you have the disadvantage of having one less target on the battlefield, because you each agreed to not kill each other.

 

I'll tell you more. Back in 2011-2012, Rico was an extremely popular gun. I remember playing with it in Polygon DMs and at that time it was an unwritten rule that all Ricochets in a DM match are friends and should not shoot each other. As a result, the Rico players who followed that rule never won any matches, because while they were teaming up and waiting for players with other guns to respawn, the players with other guns were accumulating kills because they simply shot everyone in sight. In the end, in a 16 player battle with 8 Ricochets, the Ricos were sitting around waiting for the other 8 players to respawn, while those 8 players were killing each other and the Ricos and getting kills at a faster rate.

 

In my opinion being in a team in DM is a disadvantage and would only be good for actual friends with voice communication and good teamwork skills.

"How OP can a team be in DM?"

 

If you have a gun which is easily trolled, like shaft, can be too OP. Also, teamed campers who plays on crowded games have a great potential to dominate battlefield(For example: 3 thunder or shaft can spoil 10-player Polygon DM)

 

I think you haven't been abused by two shafters on Polygon DM, or 3 thunders in Desert DM. You just watch how they kill you.  :(

 

Also, teamed players prefer to play long battles even for DM, and they wait for newcomers to kill. If they leave, teams get even more crystals because of few players to get crystals. A kind of farming...

 

 

Also, If you are powerfull and the first player, the second players tries to be a team with some to just kill you and use drugs to kill all others.

Teams can aim especially one player to support another player.

 

8 target or 9 target... If you already on your limit, this doesn't matter but what If your biggest enemy has been prevented from playing the game?

Couldn't it be helpful for you?

 

 

 

There is some guns which are for annoying people, but also easily annoyed by others.

Shaft is especially one of them, also thunder and railgun can be counted as these guns.

 

You know shaft, play some DM with it...

Edited May 21, 2015 by kayitsiz

[RustyNail 1,538]

Sure, let's ban all the players, who make teams in DMs. OK then, where are you going to find me 500 more high quality chat moderators, who will sort through the /vote reports and process all of them so that players don't complain that mods don't ever respond to complaints?

 

DM means each on their own. Isn't this so?

And don't you agree that making a team in a mode that is for solo playing is a kind of cheat? It would be weird not to accept that.

 

As long as it is considered a cheat, measures should be taken for dealing with it.*

If you need 500 more moderators, then you should apply to Tanki HQ and ask for 500 moderators. They can find some, or maybe they could pay some to do this job if they want the game clear of cheats. After all, they get so much money from supplies, they could invest some in moderators.  :P

 

Although it's not my job, since you ask me, I can tell you that special filters may be used in order to locate serious violators even after the violating. There are many ideas that can make your job easier. Why not (Tanki) making a list of voted nicks and extented monitoring being applied to the top members of this list?

Downloading game data from the perspective of a voted player (the exact view from his tank and all interaction with other players during the rest of the game plus a recording of the mac ID for future reference) and examining the data afterwards... besides, one violator makes many violations so going after the violator (instead of going after the violation) makes for an easier job.

 

All these are academic and I answer only because you ask. I don't really have an opinion about DMs, and I don't insist in anything in regard to the subject. I can see your idea with a relative interest, as an alternative (hybridic) mode between DM and TDM...

 

That said, I wish you good night and take my leave  :)

 

 

 

 

* I have to confess, people that break the rules out of selfisness or want to bully others (in any form of behaviour, including teaming against solo players or using tons of drugs to smash other non druggers- it's really the same attitude) really hit my nerves.... and that's my motive for "pocking" into this issue...

[kayitsiz 621]

DM means each on their own. Isn't this so?

And don't you agree that making a team in a mode that is for solo playing is a kind of cheat? It would be weird not to accept that.

 

As long as it is considered a cheat, measures should be taken for dealing with it.*

If you need 500 more moderators, then you should apply to Tanki HQ and ask for 500 moderators. They can find some, or maybe they could pay some to do this job if they want the game clear of cheats. After all, they get so much money from supplies, they could invest some in moderators.  :P

 

Although it's not my job, since you ask me, I can tell you that special filters may be used in order to locate serious violators even after the violating. There are many ideas that can make your job easier. Why not (Tanki) making a list of voted nicks and extented monitoring being applied to the top members of this list?

Downloading game data from the perspective of a voted player (the exact view from his tank and all interaction with other players during the rest of the game plus a recording of the mac ID for future reference) and examining the data afterwards... besides, one violator makes many violations so going after the violator (instead of going after the violation) makes for an easier job.

 

All these are academic and I answer only because you ask. I don't really have an opinion about DMs, and I don't insist in anything in regard to the subject. I can see your idea with a relative interest, as an alternative (hybridic) mode between DM and TDM...

 

That said, I wish you good night and take my leave  :)

 

 

 

 

* I have to confess, people that break the rules out of selfisness or want to bully others (in any form of behaviour, including teaming against solo players or using tons of drugs to smash other non druggers- it's really the same attitude) really hit my nerves.... and that's my motive for "pocking" into this issue...

[advanced_tech 9]

 at that time it was an unwritten rule that all Ricochets in a DM match are friends and should not shoot each other. 

That rule still exists for rail in desert map  :D  :D  :D  :D

[Destroyer8-k 9]

Well,its nice and well thought out.But DMs like Rusty said should be DMs shouldnt they? 

Edited May 22, 2015 by Destroyer8-k

[Destroyer8-k 9]

DM means each on their own. Isn't this so?

And don't you agree that making a team in a mode that is for solo playing is a kind of cheat? It would be weird not to accept that.

 

As long as it is considered a cheat, measures should be taken for dealing with it.*

If you need 500 more moderators, then you should apply to Tanki HQ and ask for 500 moderators. They can find some, or maybe they could pay some to do this job if they want the game clear of cheats. After all, they get so much money from supplies, they could invest some in moderators.  :P

 

Although it's not my job, since you ask me, I can tell you that special filters may be used in order to locate serious violators even after the violating. There are many ideas that can make your job easier. Why not (Tanki) making a list of voted nicks and extented monitoring being applied to the top members of this list?

Downloading game data from the perspective of a voted player (the exact view from his tank and all interaction with other players during the rest of the game plus a recording of the mac ID for future reference) and examining the data afterwards... besides, one violator makes many violations so going after the violator (instead of going after the violation) makes for an easier job.

 

All these are academic and I answer only because you ask. I don't really have an opinion about DMs, and I don't insist in anything in regard to the subject. I can see your idea with a relative interest, as an alternative (hybridic) mode between DM and TDM...

 

That said, I wish you good night and take my leave  :)

 

 

 

 

* I have to confess, people that break the rules out of selfisness or want to bully others (in any form of behaviour, including teaming against solo players or using tons of drugs to smash other non druggers- it's really the same attitude) really hit my nerves.... and that's my motive for "pocking" into this issue...

Well,couldnt agree more.

[advanced_tech 9]

From the tanki wiki regarding DM's

 

 

Deathmatch is the only battle mode where you are allowed to form alliances with other players. In other battle modes, doing so may result in a punishment of a fine of up to 10% of your Garage.

[Maf 32,300]

 

Well said. I never noticed that  :)