Improved micro-upgrades are in the game

[trombone_ftw 734]

My M2 Hunter has now only 10 less HP than an M3 :rolleyes: :wub:

[Baby_Sam 614]

Can anybody please take this forward?

 

Now, that if you fully upgrade all the parameters of something, you get the next M for free, should not the individual discounts be updated to add up to 100%, e.g. for Isida M2, if you fully micro-upgrade  damage, it says:

 

Discount on М3 when parameter is fully upgraded - 22.5%

 

Those add up to 71.25%. Assuming the range will come with a discount of 15% :), this adds up to 86.25%. Shouldn't that be scaled up to 100%, so fully upgrading the damage should get a discount of 26%, etc.?

[Baby_Sam 614]

YES!!!! I can finally edit my rico's ball speed and my smoky's fire rate! GOOD UPDATE

You took the silliest part of the update and praised it. You would have gotten that for free when fully MUing your turret.

 

Also, for Ricochet's projectile speed, maximum upgrade (for 25K crystals) makes your shot reach 100 meters away in 0.9 seconds instead of 1.0 seconds. The difference for closer targets is less, so for a target that is 10 meters away, your shot hits it in 0.09 seconds instead of 0.10 seconds. You got to have a serious sense of timing to notice that. :P

[r_dreaven0 0]

woooooow mice it mkes sence:D

[Karma 1,215]

Guys I have a doubt If I MU My m2 to m3 Or directly buy m3 . these both would cost the same or MU is high?

[Baby_Sam 614]

Guys I have a doubt If I MU My m2 to m3 Or directly buy m3 . these both would cost the same or MU is high?

MU will cost about twice the price.

[Papaya14 481]

Guys I have a doubt If I MU My m2 to m3 Or directly buy m3 . these both would cost the same or MU is high?

Do NOT fully micro-upgrade unless you have some serious crystals to spend. What gun are you upgrading? Let's assume Railgun. According to the table of MUs, fully upgrading your damage, reload speed, impact force etc. will cost exactly 436,601 crystals. And that is without speedups.

 

Or you could wait and then spend 218,000 on M3 itself...109k if you can get it in the 50% sale. It's up to you, really.

Edited May 26, 2015 by Papaya14

[Karma 1,215]

Do NOT fully micro-upgrade unless you have some serious crystals to spend. What gun are you upgrading? Let's assume Railgun. According to the table of MUs, fully upgrading your damage, reload speed, impact force etc. will cost exactly 436,601 crystals. And that is without speedups.

 

Or you could wait and then spend 218,000 on M3 itself...109k if you can get it in the 50% sale. It's up to you, really.

I Mued my hornet m2 but a little Now I will stop thanks for saying..

[Baby_Sam 614]

Do NOT fully micro-upgrade unless you have some serious crystals to spend. What gun are you upgrading? Let's assume Railgun. According to the table of MUs, fully upgrading your damage, reload speed, impact force etc. will cost exactly 436,601 crystals. And that is without speedups.

 

Or you could wait and then spend 218,000 on M3 itself...109k if you can get it in the 50% sale. It's up to you, really.

Railgun M2 is a bad choice to drive your point. M3 unlocks at while M2 unlocks at . There is a span of 8 big ranks. It takes a few months to cross them. If using M3 for a few months can't earn you 200K crystals more, you should do something about your play style.

 

It is always worthwhile to upgrade halfway (by amount, not number of steps) even for M0 equipment unless you can rank up and get M1 within a few days. Upgrading halfway (by amount) costs about 10-15% of fully upgraded parameter. That is a very good deal.

 

Upgrading damage or protection for equipment where the next M takes forever to unlock can be very useful, especially when you face higher ranks. The higher your rank, the harder it is to avoid that.

[SnikerDoodlez 0]

Is it cheaper to fully micro-upgrade a turrent or a haul, your just buy the M1,M2,or M3

Edited May 26, 2015 by SnikerDoodlez

[Papaya14 481]

Is it cheaper to fully micro-upgrade a turrent or a haul, your just buy the M1,M2,or M3

Check the previous page, we just answered that. It's much cheaper just to buy the M1, M2, etc. But if you have like Smoky or Titan M1 and it takes forever to get M2, it would be worth it to micro-upgrade each parameter but only halfway at most. Otherwise you are just losing crystals.

[dj112_TURBO 388]

Check the previous page, we just answered that. It's much cheaper just to buy the M1, M2, etc. But if you have like Smoky or Titan M1 and it takes forever to get M2, it would be worth it to micro-upgrade each parameter but only halfway at most. Otherwise you are just losing crystals.

i have rail m1 and i'm microupgrading it and i have done wasting much that i can't regret buying m2 instead of completing all bars

[RustyNail 1,538]

Check the previous page, we just answered that. It's much cheaper just to buy the M1, M2, etc. But if you have like Smoky or Titan M1 and it takes forever to get M2, it would be worth it to micro-upgrade each parameter but only halfway at most. Otherwise you are just losing crystals.

Yes, but can everybody (or even most) MU an M2? I guess not (unless many crystals purchaced). Then, for those who can MU an M2 it would be a practically M3  among many M2s... How do you feel about it? Do you feel it is fair?

What if it's you the one (among many) that can't afford to MU and you deal in most of the battles with someone that has MUed to the next level.. How would you feel about it?

[NBAHbl48 0]

Is it cheaper to fully micro-upgrade a turrent or a haul, your just buy the M1,M2,or M3

ully micro-upgrading a turret or hull i'll be alot more expensive than the next modification.

[Baby_Sam 614]

Yes, but can everybody (or even most) MU an M2? I guess not (unless many crystals purchaced). Then, for those who can MU an M2 it would be a practically M3  among many M2s... How do you feel about it? Do you feel it is fair?

What if it's you the one (among many) that can't afford to MU and you deal in most of the battles with someone that has MUed to the next level.. How would you feel about it?

The answer to your question is the same to this one:

How do you feel when you are in a battle and you have M3 and your Colonel enemy has M2? How do you feel when you have M2 and your gizmo enemy has M3?

 

The answer is:

I feel it's life. You win some, and you lose some.

 

People who hate that can join the no-upgrade battles, which I never join because I spent so much upgrading my stuff. There was no way for me to keep a stock M2 Rico from First Lieutenant until I can get an M3 Rico at Commander, while everyone else has M2 and M3 equipment that unlocks from Captain to Gizmo. Basically, you have to upgrade or buy a few turrets and/or hulls on the way to your next stock M+1. Looking at it this way, you will find that upgrading is a lot cheaper.

[RustyNail 1,538]

The answer to your question is the same to this one:

How do you feel when you are in a battle and you have M3 and your Colonel enemy has M2? How do you feel when you have M2 and your gizmo enemy has M3?

 

The answer is:

I feel it's life. You win some, and you lose some.

 

People who hate that can join the no-upgrade battles, which I never join because I spent so much upgrading my stuff. There was no way for me to keep a stock M2 Rico from First Lieutenant until I can get an M3 Rico at Commander, while everyone else has M2 and M3 equipment that unlocks from Captain to Gizmo. Basically, you have to upgrade or buy a few turrets and/or hulls on the way to your next stock M+1. Looking at it this way, you will find that upgrading is a lot cheaper.

 

EDIT: Apologies, I answered for another topic.

Here's my correct answer to that.

 

A colonel is 6 ranks below me. There's no reason to be in a battle with me.

You'll ask, don;t you ever see a colonel in battle? Answer, yes, some times - rarely though - I do. But this colonel is a lonely colonel between commanders and generalissimos. So, this colonel shouldn't be there, by all means. Being there, is his own decision and usually that colonel is an alt of another gen, possesing an advanced kit combo, that otherwise could not be able to have it. I mean, a colonel with M3 and Emerald (I don't own Emerald yet) is not really a colonel, is he?

 

Make no mistake... This update provides buyers with the accessibility of high rank gizmo, just like the special combo kits available in the garage, that end in the hands of buyers, as well. Tanki unbalances the game even more. To what end, we will see.

Edited May 27, 2015 by RustyNail

[genak138 950]

A colonel is 6 ranks below me. There's no reason to be in a battle with me.

You'll ask, don;t you ever see a colonel in battle? Answer, yes, some times - rarely though - I do. But this colonel is a lonely colonel between commanders and generalissimos. So, this colonel shouldn't be there, by all means. Being there, is his own decision and usually that colonel is an alt of another gen, possesing an advanced kit combo, that otherwise could not be able to have it. I mean, a colonel with M3 and Emerald (I don't own Emerald yet) is not really a colonel, is he?

So what if you rarely see someone that much lower than you? You will also rarely see someone who has MU'ed an M2 all the way to M3. Much more rarely.

[L.I.B.E.R.A.T.O.R 218]

^With the lack of battles nowadays, I'm not surprised. -_- A sometimes have little choice but to join higher ranks than he/she is. I'm also facing the same situation: I couldn't find battles of similar rank, and I had to occassionally play against ..etc, which is highly annoying.

 

I did one yesterday.

Edited May 27, 2015 by L.I.B.E.R.A.T.O.R

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

So what if you rarely see someone that much lower than you? You will also rarely see someone who has MU'ed an M2 all the way to M3. Much more rarely.

I disagree. I'm positive I'm already seeing them. Saw some the very first day.

 

 

 

Tanki is always talking about balance but what has happened to that idea now? I know, it has become secondary to making more profit. This update is unfair to non buyers,  Tanki knows it and couldn't care less. This is now a very unbalanced game. We always complain about slightly over powered weapons but now we have over powered players at low ranks. 

[dfoofnik 341]

Here's my correct answer to that.

 

 Being there, is his own decision and usually that colonel is an alt of another gen, possessing an advanced kit combo, that otherwise could not be able to have it. I mean, a colonel with M3 and Emerald (I don't own Emerald yet) is not really a colonel, is he?

 

Make no mistake... This update provides buyers with the accessibility of high rank gizmo, just like the special combo kits available in the garage, that end in the hands of buyers, as well. Tanki unbalances the game even more. To what end, we will see.

How would this "colonel alt" get the upgrades when they are rank-restricted? You can't move M-grades among accounts, otherwise you would have M3 Hulls fighting recruits. Colonels get into battles with Commanders and Gizmos either by accident or by choice, and occasionally they prove their worth even against more powerful weapons. Remember that not all turrets are created equal.

Of course, there is one great advantage to a second account: you know from experience what works well and what doesn't, for equipment and for particular battles, and there is no learning curve to your weaponry.

[Baby_Sam 614]

How would this "colonel alt" get the upgrades when they are rank-restricted? You can't move M-grades among accounts, otherwise you would have M3 Hulls fighting recruits. Colonels get into battles with Commanders and Gizmos either by accident or by choice, and occasionally they prove their worth even against more powerful weapons. Remember that not all turrets are created equal.

Of course, there is one great advantage to a second account: you know from experience what works well and what doesn't, for equipment and for particular battles, and there is no learning curve to your weaponry.

I think the alt account part is irrelevant to the discussion. It is just a highly skilled person at some rank. The problem though is that kits with equipment that unlocks a few ranks later are available and you can buy it. That way you can end up with stuff people with a few ranks higher can't get yet. I am sure you have seen that.

[Ryer97 15]

Good Job Tanki! Been waiting for ya'll to catch up xD.

[r_Apgames0 0]

Nice !!I waiting to long . Finaly  :D  :D  :lol:  :lol:  B)  B)

Edited May 27, 2015 by r_Apgames0

[RustyNail 1,538]

So what if you rarely see someone that much lower than you? You will also rarely see someone who has MU'ed an M2 all the way to M3. Much more rarely.

Yea, but after this update I will see more often MUs of M2 and of M3... To me, it's not such a problem since I am almost top rank, so either way I play with commanders and generalissimos. But what about all those WOs, Lieutenants, Captains etc? Top buyers will not only have the best combos available (through kits) but also all - or more - MUs of those combos... meaning a total loss for anyone with "poor" equipment.

[Notice please, that most people here respond in regard to their best interes only, but some of us think for other player's interests as well]

 

 

I disagree. I'm positive I'm already seeing them. Saw some the very first day.

 

 

 

Tanki is always talking about balance but what has happened to that idea now? I know, it has become secondary to making more profit. This update is unfair to non buyers,  Tanki knows it and couldn't care less. This is now a very unbalanced game. We always complain about slightly over powered weapons but now we have over powered players at low ranks. 

That's what most "happy" players fail to see, that this opportunity suits most the top buyers. And the result will be even bigger unbalance in battles, untill many players will leave just because they can't spend the money required.

 

 

How would this "colonel alt" get the upgrades when they are rank-restricted? You can't move M-grades among accounts, otherwise you would have M3 Hulls fighting recruits. Colonels get into battles with Commanders and Gizmos either by accident or by choice, and occasionally they prove their worth even against more powerful weapons. Remember that not all turrets are created equal.

Of course, there is one great advantage to a second account: you know from experience what works well and what doesn't, for equipment and for particular battles, and there is no learning curve to your weaponry.

Actually one can possess M-grades locked to one's rank, there was one way and this update is the second one. Remember special kits? They include items that normaly unlock after 2 or 3 ranks, but are available to whoever can afford it. And now, they even can move to the next M-grade (practically, via MUing).

So, if one can have M-grade of a combo that one's fellow rankers won't have for 2 or 3 ranks, and not only one possess such M-grade but through MUing can reach the effectiveness of NEXT M-grade (that is 4 or 6 ranks away from fellow rankers), what does this make? Doesn't it make a Godmode_on just for anyone that won't mind throw a few hundred (or thousands) $ into this game?

[Baby_Sam 614]

This update makes the problem of early kits just slightly worse.

 

I think the people who are welling to throw hundreds of dollars into the game are few, so it is not that big of a problem. You may be lucky and have them all in your battles though.

 

The early kits are the real problem. I think they should be offered at most half a rank early, i.e. when you are halfway in your current rank to rank up, but making them available a few ranks before is too much.

 

Please note though that freeloaders :) like me can afford kits. I have already bought 3 M2/M3 kits. They were not in my plans, but they were such good deals that I could not resist them.