[Poll] Multing problem in the game

[NedFighter 408]

Please, keep this topic active so others can give their opinion :)

[Meowmix56 174]

A good way to keep this thread active would be to post common examples.  Like this one,  half of one team doing nothing, about a third of the other:

 

 

 

 

It'd be so easy to block multiple log ins from the same ip and increase rewards for the losing team. 

 

I think the best thing we could do is to keep making threads and keep threads alive, spread awareness and let people vent their anger.  Eventually maybe they will do something about it.

Edited July 2, 2015 by Meowmix56

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

I was playing a noob account the other day I was taken aback with the mults in it. I did all the work, dropped off a flag for someone who did pick it up but did nothing until an enemy reached him then he press F. It was crazy bad. Mults, mult-like behaviour exists at every level of this game and is a massive problem.

 

The kick2 suggestion is now a tanki world record for most likes of a forum post.

If you haven't given it a like already.

 

[ATTANKER 35]

Noticed at Polygon CP, although it happens everywhere, that there are some players who I don't notice on the map and there stats remain unchanged for a good few minutes because they are either on pause or in garage (but they make sure to get a few kills first) and even when they do show their tanks they stay on the fringes of the battle (then they might pause again or return to garage), and it varies to each of these kind of players how much interest they actually take in the outcome of the battle, with some having utterly no interest at all. However if a Gold Box was to fall they would appear back in a flash, and they use this tactic frequently and its mainly the same players over and over again.

 

So therefore if one does fall while any one player is in the garage, during that time they should have Gold Box notification disabled and muted but only until they return to the game again, or maybe you can't use any supplies 15/30/45 seconds after returning from the garage or unpausing yourself, might be unpopular yes but still its an idea (although in pro battles with supplies not activated this isn't gonna make much difference).

[EscapeVelocity 8]

EXAMPLE OF MULT AND SABOTAGE AT SMALL RANKS

 

jayjay_cool_the_cool = Hornet Isida Lava:

I'm pretty sure "jayjay_cool_the_cool" was a mult and had tanks on both sides but he switched half way through to what he thought was going to be the winning side. He came to life occasionally to block the path of flag holders.

 

kinderbuenos = Hornet Isida Lead:

Was a pal of jayjay and he kept his score up but was blocking shots knowing that damage would be reduced as they went through him. He'd block and generally not heal.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj-FlfdSo_I

[caproz 61]

We need a kick system. That's all.

[canadarules 1,938]

the worst problem in the game is whiners

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

I wonder is they could use the friends system and PRO passes as a tool to combat mults. 

 

Normal battles would prevent the following.

• Friends would not be able to join against other friends.
• Accounts with the same IP would not be able to join opposite sides.

An option to turn this off would be under PRO passes. This option would allow for those that want to play with friends and for things like training and practices. It would help cut down on the mults however they could still be in the PRO battles. At least normal battles wouldn't suffer.

 

Additionally, more then one account should never be able to log into the same server, from the same device at anytime. This would not be very hard to add and would have a huge impact on this problem.

 

It would sure stop a lot of multing and cheating. Unfortunately we all know Tanki won't do it. They don't care how many mults there are as long as it looks like a lot of players are playing.

[canadarules 1,938]

wait so you are saying then brothers can't troll each other and takeover battles?

also that another friend can't troll another.. what if there is a clan war and they aren't checking their skype.. thats noob ideas right there ^

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

wait so you are saying then brothers can't troll each other and takeover battles?

also that another friend can't troll another.. what if there is a clan war and they aren't checking their skype.. thats noob ideas right there ^

They would just need a PRO pass.   Also nobody should trolling anybody.  Clan's should be using PRO passes for clan wars anyway.  If it gets rid of all the mults, most of the players would be happy. 

Edited July 5, 2015 by Canadian_Eh

[ATTANKER 35]

Everyone ignore canadarules

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

Everyone ignore canadarules

I usually do.  He is trying to get a world record for the most haters.  LOL

[Meowmix56 174]

How many players have siblings that also play?  How many of them play at the same time?  At the same rank?  Barely anyone.  The loss would be trivial compared to fixing the mult problem.

[SatansRotweiler 44]

EXAMPLE OF MULT AND SABOTAGE AT SMALL RANKS

 

jayjay_cool_the_cool = Hornet Isida Lava:

I'm pretty sure "jayjay_cool_the_cool" was a mult and had tanks on both sides but he switched half way through to what he thought was going to be the winning side. He came to life occasionally to block the path of flag holders.

 

kinderbuenos = Hornet Isida Lead:

Was a pal of jayjay and he kept his score up but was blocking shots knowing that damage would be reduced as they went through him. He'd block and generally not heal.

yeah it is becoming more blatant because the bans are a joke, there is no deterrent.

 

I think once I reach generalissimo I will quit, I can't quit till I do, I hate unfinished business lol

 

but the fun is going out of game quickly.

[TOKAGEGESHA 3]

Its not a problem.

[L.I.B.E.R.A.T.O.R 218]

yeah it is becoming more blatant because the bans are a joke, there is no deterrent.

 

I think once I reach generalissimo I will quit, I can't quit till I do, I hate unfinished business lol

 

but the fun is going out of game quickly.

The problem is having enough patience to reach there in the first place. :ph34r:

Already with so few battles and more mults in each battle, I'm losing willpower everyday to play much. :wacko:

[SatansRotweiler 44]

The problem is having enough patience to reach there in the first place. :ph34r:

Already with so few battles and more mults in each battle, I'm losing willpower everyday to play much. :wacko:

True, I have another account and once I got to marshal the battle choices dropped considerably, it's now at field marshal and pretty much dead.

[AlexThePro 6]

Simple fix (hopefully) for this is to simply eliminate the pause option altogether. If one can't play a 15 or 30 minute battle without pausing why even bother playing?

 

Oh, almost forgot - FIX THE DAMN SHAFT ALREADY!

[L.I.B.E.R.A.T.O.R 218]

True, I have another account and once I got to marshal the battle choices dropped considerably, it's now at field marshal and pretty much dead.

I can imagine what's Field Marshal is like -- Fighting with gismos who constantly use Mults/Raids/sabotage in NSB and everywhere. *sighs* And then most of the gismos have strong M3 like M3 Rico, as well as strong paints.

[genak138 950]

Although I do hate mults and saboteurs, I do not believe they are the main problem in Tanki. Remember, you might think somebody is a mult just because they have a low score, but that can easily be because they have an unstable connection. I know it's happened to me several times before.

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

I do play in battles that include generalissimos all the time or rather I used to.  Frankly I'm at the point where I don't even care if I make it to generalissimo any more. Many of the Gens have left the game. Another issue not mentioned is, almost every battle is a drug war. Sure I could use a PRO pass but the battle choices are very limited. Pretty much XP only.

 

 

Although I do hate mults and saboteurs, I do not believe they are the main problem in Tanki. Remember, you might think somebody is a mult just because they have a low score, but that can easily be because they have an unstable connection. I know it's happened to me several times before.

Just curious, what do you feel is the main problem with Tanki?  For me it is the fact that playing at high ranks is not fun anymore and to me that is caused by the unfair game play. 

[genak138 950]

Just curious, what do you feel is the main problem with Tanki?  For me it is the fact that playing at high ranks is not fun anymore and to me that is caused by the unfair game play. 

Yeah, it does kinda seem like I don't think there's anything wrong with Tanki judging by what I post, doesn't it? :P In my opinion, there are lots of small problems, but none of them seem to be big enough to be called "The main problem." The game balance has been feeling a bit off in the last few months, sometimes I self-destruct from the anti-cheat, but they're minor. My lag (PING lag, mind you) is really bad a lot of the time, but that's just my connection. But if I had to say what the major problem was, I'd say it's the community. So many people are so cynical about things all the time, and that really bugs me. Of course, there are also a lot of people that aren't, but it doesn't always seem like that.

[ATTANKER 35]

Yeah, it does kinda seem like I don't think there's anything wrong with Tanki judging by what I post, doesn't it? :P In my opinion, there are lots of small problems, but none of them seem to be big enough to be called "The main problem." The game balance has been feeling a bit off in the last few months, sometimes I self-destruct from the anti-cheat, but they're minor. My lag (PING lag, mind you) is really bad a lot of the time, but that's just my connection. But if I had to say what the major problem was, I'd say it's the community. So many people are so cynical about things all the time, and that really bugs me. Of course, there are also a lot of people that aren't, but it doesn't always seem like that.

We can't do anything about mults and saboteurs who break the rules of the game, and yet admin haven't made much of an effort to counter this notorious deliberate manipulative tactic that causes players time, efforts and fun to be wasted and be in vain. But the least we can do is talk about it and comment on it.

 

Tanks lagging happens to many lately, so its not like its unnoticed, or your informing posters something not known, besides laggers can be seen in the description logging in and out over and over again, and not losing their place in the battle, so they are easily differentiated from pausers who only want to pause, inactive tankers (intentional or not) and tankers hiding in the garage and general multers. Some players have a low score and a low rate of score/per time unit, and that's no problem too, that happens all the time. Someone who gets no score and is just trying to get opposition flag or creating a distraction for his team-mates or puts his tank in the way of opposing tanks trying to stop them is all good.

 

If you don't agree vote No, and if you are uncontent with the community, make a thread, but then you will sound like what you yourself don't want to hear, or even make a thread about something you like to talk about, its so easy, but the problem with forums is unconstuctive commentary posters make about posters not liking something within another post or thread. I don't know what you expected coming into this thread, no one forced you to come here and read up, but there are lots of threads about cool aspects of tanki online and players talking about themselves and what they enjoy etc.

 

You know you sound like someone who has come to sabotage this thread..lool :ph34r:

[genak138 950]

If you don't agree vote No, and if you are uncontent with the community, make a thread, but then you will sound like what you yourself don't want to hear, or even make a thread about something you like to talk about, its so easy, but the problem with forums is unconstuctive commentary posters make about posters not liking something within another post or thread. I don't know what you expected coming into this thread, no one forced you to come here and read up, but there are lots of threads about cool aspects of tanki online and players talking about themselves and what they enjoy etc.

 

You know you sound like someone who has come to sabotage this thread..lool :ph34r:

I already voted no. ;) And I know that if I made a thread about it, I would sound like the people I don't like. That's one reason why I'm not making the thread. The other is I'm too lazy :P I know no one forced me in here, but I like to read a lot of threads to see what they're about, and share my opinions. :) And this one was specifically asking for opinions, so...

 

And you sound like someone who has come to sabotage my post :ph34r:

[LaserShark 2,095]

Mults or Pay2Win, one of those two.