Capturing the flag etiquette?

[SatansRotweiler 44]

Something that irritates me but i see all the time and I am not sure why it happens.

 

My view is if I die while carrying flag then I died, I did not capture the flag and if a team mate picks it up and carries it the rest of the way then good, i get some points and the team has scored because capture the flag is indeed a team game. Sometimes you have to type in chat , capture it because they're sitting there waiting for you to take it back.

 

I have seen people who think if they happen to touch the flag then they magically own it. Literally they died within a foot of the enemies flag base and they want it back after someone carrying it the whole distance to our base.

 

In a battle today, guy dies within enemies base and he refuses to let another guy who carried it at least 75% of the way capture it, other team ends up taking the flag back. We end up drawing. It's just pig ignorance in my opinion.

 

I see a lot to where in a close game, someone tries to return it and enemy pops in and returns the flag, wasted chance.

you died, if your team mate didn't pick it up and run with it you wouldn't score any points.

 

So what's the problem?

 

Any views on this?

Edited June 26, 2015 by SatansRotweiler

[Maf 32,300]

It's a problem without a solution. People will be people and you can't spend 10 minutes in every battle teaching them how to behave via chat, because then you will be sabotaging your team. If they consistently stop you from capturing the flag after you didn't let them capture "their" flag, then you can record a video and report it in the Game Violators section. Otherwise you just have to bear with it and wait for them to learn to behave. It doesn't happen as often on high ranks because players learn how to act.

[Meowmix56 174]

Still happens all the time for me.  It is a nice thing to hand it back but is an act of pure charity and should never be entitled. 

[Pallidium 17]

In a close game, push etiquette out the window. The win will grant everyone else higher reward in the long run.

 

I understand this, though. I've seen some people be really mad when someone would take my flag that I died with and cap it. After being in Clan battles and such, I've not had as a near selfish view on team battles.

 

Bettering the team is more efficient than bettering your personal score, IMO. A humble win can still have more reward than a selfish, Rambo loss.

 

Then again, selfish, Rambo wins are the best.

[lukey0 27,543]

That's why I play CP. :d

[Meowmix56 174]

There are several times where the game makes it a player's best interest to work against their own team.  Take madness ctf for example.  Ideally people would defend their teams flag and hold the bottom but even if you get more kills than the next two team mates combined it equates to fewer points than the pile of people pushing eachother to fight over the flag.

[Satans-Rotweiler 45]

There are several times where the game makes it a player's best interest to work against their own team.  Take madness ctf for example.  Ideally people would defend their teams flag and hold the bottom but even if you get more kills than the next two team mates combined it equates to fewer points than the pile of people pushing eachother to fight over the flag.

Yeah I have seen that in madness quite a bit, actually I don't think I have ever played madness and not seen that.

I guess madness is unique in the fact no one spawns on the ground/near their own base, so when one team gets a foothold on the ground it is hard for the other team since they are dropping one at a time or landing upside down.

I guess it happens in most maps if the opposing team is completely defeated you will see pushing matches for taking the flag, personally i prefer people to take turns at that stage, sometimes i will play mommy and try and help people to get turns lol

 

My main point though is the actual carrying of the flag, the ownership people feel of it, I agree with your other point, it is nice, it is a form of charity (sometimes it is respect when someone goes completely against the run of play) but there is no obligation or entitlement to it once you lose it.

Edited June 27, 2015 by Satans-Rotweiler

[Satans-Rotweiler 45]

That's why I play CP. :D

I will give it a go, guess it would solve a lot of problems. I used to love cp but i find it's nearly always polygon now, not my fav map.

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

You have given me an idea. Do we have a topic with game etiquette listed in a bullet form?

[michael470 13]

I will give it a go, guess it would solve a lot of problems. I used to love cp but i find it's nearly always polygon now, not my fav map.

Join arena cp matches, and make sure you get your place in those 60 min battles in the last 15-20 min in the winning team. You can obtain near 1000 cry in a very short time. :)

[Satans-Rotweiler 45]

You have given me an idea. Do we have a topic with game etiquette listed in a bullet form?

[Pallidium 17]

You have given me an idea. Do we have a topic with game etiquette listed in a bullet form?

I feel like the press could do a topic on it. Might get to more people.

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

I feel like the press could do a topic on it. Might get to more people.

You are probably correct.

 

 

 

Anyone have any suggestions as to who to contact? Who would be the best person do to it?

[Tanker1928374655 133]

Exactly! Check out certain battles... such as Madness CTF. Everyone is sabotaging for the flag, for no reason. I am forced to sabotage back in order to earn a decent XP sum.

[GoldRock 6,165]

Great topic and subsequent discussion, made for an interesting read as I was scrolling through this section... Agreed with a lot of the points raised here about the team taking precedence over the individual in the heat of a battle. I think this used to be more of an issue back when the flag-capturer got almost all of the points, now the formula's quite a bit fairer and rewards everyone involved in carrying the flag back for the capture.

 

Anyone have any suggestions as to who to contact? Who would be the best person do to it?

Post here, it's a good idea. Might even nab it myself, if you wouldn't mind :P

Edited June 29, 2015 by GoldRock

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

Great topic and subsequent discussion, made for an interesting read as I was scrolling through this section... Agreed with a lot of the points raised here about the team taking precedence over the individual in the heat of a battle. I think this used to be more of an issue back when the flag-capturer got almost all of the points, now the formula's quite a bit fairer and rewards everyone involved in carrying the flag back for the capture.

 

 

Post here, it's a good idea. Might even nab it myself, if you wouldn't mind :P

This is not my topic but if you think you can make a good article for it. I say go for it.

[SatansRotweiler 44]

This is not my topic but if you think you can make a good article for it. I say go for it.

I think he means the general game etiquette you suggested rather then flag etiquette.

 

Either way I don't mind either, if it benefits descent players I say go for it also!

 

btw I don't feel anybody owns topics either lololol

Edited June 30, 2015 by SatansRotweiler

[jitij 0]

Nice post, I totally agree.

 

It's the TEAM's flag, it doesn't belong to any one player. Even a guy who took it across the map, he did that because other players gave him cover fire, and there's still a flag on his base because his team was defending it. It's a team effort. And it sabotauges the team to hold up the capture.

 

Also Meomix56 made an important distinction... "It is a nice thing to hand it back but is an act of pure charity and should never be entitled." Well said.

[even_twins_kills_you 8]

I appreciate  that no one has the "entitlement" to cap the flag after the have dropped it, that the victory belongs to the team, and better to ensure the victory and give everyone on the team points, etc etc. Having said that however, one thing that really grinds my gears is when there is an uneven battle in my team's favour with no chance of losing, someone almost caps the flag but dies, I hold it for them, drop it for them when they respawn with a line of chat asking them to cap it, not an enemy in sight, and some ****** (insert extreme profanity here please!) snatches it and caps it before the intended player can get to it. It's happened more than once and drives me nuts more than anything else in this game.

Edited July 4, 2015 by even_twins_kills_you

[SatansRotweiler 44]

Nice post, I totally agree.

 

It's the TEAM's flag, it doesn't belong to any one player. Even a guy who took it across the map, he did that because other players gave him cover fire, and there's still a flag on his base because his team was defending it. It's a team effort. And it sabotauges the team to hold up the capture.

 

Also Meomix56 made an important distinction... "It is a nice thing to hand it back but is an act of pure charity and should never be entitled." Well said.

True and if no one from your team picked it up the enemy would have returned it and no points for you, no points for other flag carriers and no point for team. It's just nonsensical. 

 

Really the person should be appreciative there was someone there to take the flag the rest of the way home and not be looking for charity.