Slow down druggers' xp and in-game pts

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

I played about 45 mins yesterday. The first was the last 10 mins of a 15 and it was a good battle.

 

The next round was crap. We got raided by over powered druggers. Everyone on my team left except myself. Be darned if I'm leaving any of my crystals for them. I just waited on pause. It was funny to watch them keep capping flags and STILL drugging and I was the only one in the battle. It took them about 3 mins to figure out I wasn't on the field and the whole time the they came roaring up the ramp with all 3 supplies on. LOL Actually it was for fun watching them waste supplies then it was playing. My pause timer ran out and I had to reset it but while I did I asked "Why are you still drugging, I'm all alone and clearly you have already won?" (score was 20 -1 or something) Well I can't repeat what the response was without getting banned. 

 

The next round was a real good battle, no mindless druggers and the score was close right until the end. I think we won, I can't remember and frankly don't care. It was fun.

 

For the last round the mindless druggers came back within the first 5 mins. This time I left and called it a night. 

 

 

These druggers where clearly friends of this guy.( picture is from the OP)

 

You have in daily missions - collect Double damage boxes or Double armor boxes. So we are all druggers when we play daily missions.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

You have in daily missions - collect Double damage boxes or Double armor boxes. So we are all druggers when we play daily missions.

Sensible supply use is fine. We're all in the same boat in that respect. Mindless drugging should be frowned upon and does nothing for this game.

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

Sensible supply use is fine. We're all in the same boat in that respect. Mindless drugging should be frowned upon and does nothing for this game.

In this game there is no reasonable or non reasonable use of the supplies. People use them or not. Since their use is not illegal, then I do not understand this fuss about drugging.

 

Its like in the battle i am using M1 and then at Forum i am making a Topic that everyone in the battle should also use M1 instead of M2 or M3.

 

Its not fair

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

In this game there is no reasonable or non reasonable use of the supplies.

Come back in 10 ranks and say that!

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

In the title of this topic is written: Slow down druggers' xp and in-game pts

Using the supplies is not prohibited and you can not obstruct the players who use them because they do not violate the rules of the game.

 

Should i make a Topic called: When I play with generals and marshals please limit their equipment on M1

But of course I will not, because it is not fair

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

In the title of this topic is written: Slow down druggers' xp and in-game pts

Using the supplies is not prohibited and you can not obstruct the players who use them because they do not violate the rules of the game.

Ok, this is the sort of thing I have to put up with. Sorry but you're twisting the whole suggestion. If you can't grasp the fact this suggestion is not about obstruction and more about a balance tweak as shown in BIG LETTERS on the original post then I have no more time for you.

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

Ok, this is the sort of thing I have to put up with. Sorry but you're twisting the whole suggestion. If you can't grasp the fact this suggestion is not about obstruction and more about a balance tweak as shown in BIG LETTERS on the original post then I have no more time for you.

 

Idea of slowing down players xp is not obstruction?

 

I have no idea what more comments to give you, I think I was clear and concise. After all, your idea has more downvotes than upvotes - that's indicator if some idea is good or bad.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

I have no idea what more comments to give you, I think I was clear and concise. After all, your idea has more downvotes than upvotes - that's indicator if some idea is good or bad.

More of an indicator of support for Hazel who never understood it either. 

 

I have nothing more to contribute to it. Thanks to those who responded positively.

[Brubook 1,161]

In the title of this topic is written: Slow down druggers' xp and in-game pts

Using the supplies is not prohibited and you can not obstruct the players who use them because they do not violate the rules of the game.

 

Should i make a Topic called: When I play with generals and marshals please limit their equipment on M1

 

But of course I will not, because it is not fair

Drugging is like fighting with a gun against a kitchen fork. It unbalances the battle.

 

It is not a matter of rules, the problem is on playability, satisfaction, enjoyment and fair play.

 

Your example is silly and based on an assumption ... you play with people with dozens of ranks more than you ... and if you do you know what you will face as standard.

 

The game is supposed to be based in such way that "similar" experienced people with similar equipment (apart weapons peculiar differences) play together. So, when a M1 weapon become M5 in a click, that is a bad unbalance. Can you see that? It is an unfair advantage. Moreover it is mostly controlled by money. Hence the richer wins frustrating others.

 

Try to open your mind. We look for fairplay here, not for ways to avoid or skipping rules or take advantages on them.

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

I agree for fairplay, but idea of slowing down players xp is obstruction. You have the right to disagree with me, I do not dispute that.

Anyway, I do not believe that this idea will ever be accepted + topic creator has requested to be closed

There is no point in continuing

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

I agree for fairplay, but idea of slowing down players xp is obstruction. You have the right to disagree with me, I do not dispute that.

Anyway, I do not believe that this idea will ever be accepted + topic creator has requested to be closed

 

There is no point in continuing

I don't care if it's ever accepted. I really don't. What I care about is balance, fair play and enjoyment. The more we talk about the issue of druggers, mults, cheating etc, the more tiresome it gets for them to listen to it. They'll have to do something in the end to address these things or they stand accused of ignoring us. We talk, they supposed to listen. Nobody says they have to act.  At least some of us are trying to participate and find solutions.

 

And just so you know, I have already said regarding xp;

 

The point about xp is merely a side note to the scoring system so you don't need to focus on it to the extent you're doing.  It's really of little consequence and is there for deterrent purposes only and to bolster the alternative scoring solution.  It could actually do without it.

So just because I've written something in the main suggestion, doesn't mean that it has to be just so or else not at all. Read between the lines.

[E.Leclerc 1,887]

Your idea makes druggers....angry.

[rocketstar31 3]

Absolute, i support you. Ive been caught in between the nets for who knows how long. Havent ranked up for months, destroyed by druggers even when i have skill. I ve had an ankle op and i guess, like most things, I should move on.. Although , i have skill, with these people its simply not worth it. A word of advice to tanki : listen to us before its too late.

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

Your idea makes druggers....angry.

 

Why? They have to ask themselves why do they play in the first place. What is it that druggers are looking for in this game? This idea does not stop you from drugging does it? It doesn't give them less power or strength. It just gives non-druggers a little more crystals. So why is that making them angry? If they can afford all these crystals then surely they won't weep about losing a tiny fraction.

 

Do tell. Enlighten everyone.

[E.Leclerc 1,887]

Why? They have to ask themselves why do they play in the first place. What is it that druggers are looking for in this game? This idea does not stop you from drugging does it? It doesn't give them less power or strength. It just gives non-druggers a little more crystals. So why is that making them angry? If they can afford all these crystals then surely they won't weep about losing a tiny fraction.

 

Do tell. Enlighten everyone.

I said that because your idea has so many down-votes. 

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

I said that because your idea has so many down-votes. 

Well there are other reasons why it could have down votes and probably for the same reason Hazels comments have up votes.

Hazel vs AZ = Hazel wins everytime. 

 

At least I say what's on my mind and don't suck up to anyone in particular hoping to get a free crystal or a role here.

This was the best reply,

"For God's sake... if you want the supplies to be nerfed so much then you'd be better of removing them all together!"

 

I did ask those who don't like this idea to say why if they didn't like it but hardly any have. A bit of bandwagon going on here so it's pointless keeping it going.

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

Upvotes, downvotes it doesn't matter, the point is we are discussing a problem and trying to come up with a solution.  Every battle has people complaining about druggers so clearly there is an issue.

 

• Supplies user:  a supplies user is someone that uses them respect. They use them only if the situation requires them. This is acceptable. 
• Mindless "drugger":  A player that uses supplies all the time even when they don't need to. They don't care if there is 1 player or 10. They don't care if what they are doing chases off all the opponents. 

There are several reasons that they do this, all of which are selfish. It may be because they can't stand the thought of loosing. I my opinion they are cowards, too afraid to fight someone like a man. Maybe they don't have skill, so they need the drugs to make up for that. Maybe they just like being a bully and completely humiliating people. I would much prefer to beat someone because I'm smarter or have more skill.

 

According to Tanki the sale of supplies is a big source of income and this why they are the way they are. To me this is a really weak excuse. We have offered lots of ways they could make even more money.

According to many players and Tanki, supplies "balance" out the game. They claim they make up the difference between the different M levels. This is another false statement. Drugs give you more protection and power then any M level in the game. They don't balance, they completely shift the power.

 

They also create a situation for newer players. They give players a false sense of ability. I know this first hand. I was a mindless drugger and when I stopped buying my supplies ran out. It was at this point I found out my skills where terrible. I had been relying on supplies so much, I wasn't learning to play the game with skill. I felt so useless I actually quit for awhile, but with time I learned the skills and learned to respect the game. Do I use supplies? Out of my personal supply, Yes, but I use them with large degree of respect for the other players. I think of there over use as cheating and I like to play fair.

 

Pick-ups are different. They are a very strategic part of the game. If players are just going to ignore them then that is their fault. Everybody has the same option to pick them up and should be.

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

Well there are other reasons why it could have down votes and probably for the same reason Hazels comments have up votes.

Hazel vs AZ = Hazel wins everytime. 

 

At least I say what's on my mind and don't suck up to anyone in particular hoping to get a free crystal or a role here.

This was the best reply,

"For God's sake... if you want the supplies to be nerfed so much then you'd be better of removing them all together!"

 

I did ask those who don't like this idea to say why if they didn't like it but hardly any have. A bit of bandwagon going on here so it's pointless keeping it going.

They all belong to the Tanki fan club. Loyal to a fault. They support anything, right or wrong. I agree with you, that many think that by aligning themselves with the Devs, they will some how get something from it. LOL  How naive.

[Brubook 1,161]

They all belong to the Tanki fan club. Loyal to a fault. They support anything, right or wrong. I agree with you, that many think that by aligning themselves with the Devs, they will some how get something from it. LOL  How naive.

Fully agree .... people is soo "sheep", soo toady!

 

Actually if Hazel suddenly stop walking, he would find a ton of tongues stuck into his ... (you know where!) ----- forgive me for this figurative picture, but it is very explanative!

 

It is just the "myth" figure! If he says "hello", he will get 100 upvotes!!

 

He surely deserve respect, as anyone do, but not blind submission and adoration!

[Brubook 1,161]

I said that because your idea has so many down-votes. 

First of all, there are not really soo many downvotes IMO.

 

Do your really base your evaluations on up-down votes? Don't you use your mind to discern and analyse things?

Is really a 100 upvote post good? So ... my post is amost good, then! :)

 

Uhm ... I am definitely too old for this!!

[robbie56 2,403]

This way the high rankers will dominate everything , since they have upgraded hulls with more health.

[zhiliang95 23]

I am not pro but I consider myself above average and its very hard not to get addicted to a game which you are good at. I used to play a lot but few months ago I was about to quit tanki because everytime the drugger wins, like no matter how skillful I'm or how hard I try, all it takes is a heavy drugger with thunder/hammer viking combo who 1 hit everyone in my team like all the time. But then after getting m3 rail I started playing xp battles, problem solved.  :P Without druggers I started enjoy playing tanki again. I'm saying this just to let the developers know how frustrating it is for players who don't drug.

[creeperskelly 1,281]

A battle where it ends 2-1 in the last seconds due to no drugging is much more enjoyable than being on the winning (or losing) team when the winning team drugs and wins 20-0.

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

I am not pro but I consider myself above average and its very hard not to get addicted to a game which you are good at. I used to play a lot but few months ago I was about to quit tanki because everytime the drugger wins, like no matter how skillful I'm or how hard I try, all it takes is a heavy drugger with thunder/hammer viking combo who 1 hit everyone in my team like all the time. But then after getting m3 rail I started playing xp battles, problem solved.  :P Without druggers I started enjoy playing tanki again. I'm saying this just to let the developers know how frustrating it is for players who don't drug.

Well thanks for your input. If only I liked rail, but maybe that is because I suck using it.

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

This way the high rankers will dominate everything , since they have upgraded hulls with more health.

Not anymore then before. The power of the supplies are not being reduced under this suggestion. Only the rewards from using them will be reduced and given to the non-druggers. If you had taken the time to actually read the idea you would know this.