fairly transferring current Tanki accounts to Unity

[lukey0 27,543]

Well, we're talking about the case where players will have to start from 0 (no garage transfer), in this case if:

 

A. The majority of players move to Unity, then this means the majority of players have no problem losing everything in their current accounts and starting from scratch again. If the Unity version kicks off with a new monetization model and most players are happy with it, then yes the flash version will eventually die out.

 

B. The majority of players don't like the idea of starting all over so they decide to stick with their hard-earned accounts in the flash version, and in this case the Unity version will develop its own player base. And I bet most players who threaten to leave the game will eventually settle for the Unity TO.

 

I cannot see why anyone would want to leave the game if both versions stay active and they get to choose which one they want to play. Unless we're dealing with pampered kids here!

Either way Flash Tanki will die out once Unity comes, it'd just be a matter of time. Once Unity comes Flash will have very little to no updates/improvements to it, meaning hackers will be everywhere scammers etc. I can see Tanki wanting Mods to moderate Flash when they really wouldn't care about it much, not with Unity.

 

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I like the idea of getting full refund of our crys, but maybe add the 1000 XP pass back and for every 1 XP we have we get 1 crystal which means we can get our ranks back fast and all should be happy. ;)

[Guest Maserati]

And our karma will be refreshed <-- 1 thing many tankers are looking forward to :)

[blackstar710 195]

Sounds great, cool idea- hope the developers implement  it into the new Unity version!

[tommybau 1,033]

a 1:1 garage and rank transfer could do it for me. no need for refunds or such. i hope the game keeps the core mechanics untouched, only new graphics and content.

 

I dont see any issues in developers introducing premium accounts and stuff like that, just allow me to keep my goodies.

Everyone knows, we have put effort in our garage, and flash tanki IS going to die, sooner or later. and we dont want to say bye bye to our garages.

[rommeltanki 212]

Agreed if Accounts are too difficult to transfer this is the best formula for all players.  Its very fair and no one will be mad that they lost items.  Can we get rank credit to jump right into our current rank?

:)

[tommybau 1,033]

i would not mind starting again at recruit, with my current equipment locked untill i will archieve the needed  ranks again.

[PuncherTank 37]

I can understand where many proponents of the transfer/refund idea are coming from, but I'm not sure many understand why players should start from scratch in case TO decide to change the monetization model.

I've explained this in my topic and here it is again.

I'm talking about a new monetization model that depends on selling premium accounts rather than sheer power, in which case supplies will be significantly nerfed in a way that makes their impact on gameplay very minor.

You see, if TO adopt this new model and they allow players to transfer their garages or provide any form of significant refund, then the first day Unity TO goes live most players including the buyer base will move to Unity. So, how will TO generate revenue then? The current buyer base is power-craving, and with supplies significantly nerfed most of them will stop buying. In this case TO would barely be generating enough money to run the servers, let alone paying their employees. This will result in the failure of the new monetization model and TO will have to start selling power (powerful supplies) again. This would be the worst case scenario.

The objective is to discourage everyone from fully moving to Unity TO at once, so that the new monetization model gets some time to develop a buyer base that craves customization and exclusivity (premium-only features) rather than power. At the same time TO will still be generating revenue from the current buyer base, either the ones that will prefer to pay for power in the flash TO or the ones that will choose to move to Unity TO and pay for premium. It will take some time to gain loyal premium subscribers, either from the current players or newcomers.

What GhostRider750 and others are suggesting is to make all players happily move on to the Unity version once it is released. However, if TO want to go with a new monetization model then they should do exactly the opposite! They'll need to make sure that the flash version will remain fairly active, at least until the new model in Unity develops a solid buyer base. They could consider offering bonuses for all players in the flash version once the Unity one is released to encourage more players to continue playing the flash TO.

And to help kick off the new model in Unity economically, TO can offer Early Access and Pre-Order packages for those who cannot wait until the game is publicly released. This will help evaluate the marketability of the premium-based model before releasing the game.

[momy950666 960]

agreed

[lordmostafa 3,821]

Whenever Unity Tanki gets implemented if the items in our Flash Tanki garage cannot be directly transferred into our Unity Tanki garage then hopefully some other means of compensation for what we currently have will take place.  The devs have basically said they aren't sure yet if our current garages will be able to be transferred over directly to the Unity version of Tanki.  If our garages can be directly transferred then great.  If not, some alternate solution will be needed.

They can transfer items, it's a simple data transfer so when you open your account in Unity, it will have the same exact items, but your Flash version account will no longer exist.

 

Developers said they will either allow a 1 time transfer to the Unity, or they are going to completely reset EVERYTHING. So to be honest, your idea is sorta redundant, because if they do allow transfers, they are going to transfer everything as is, not compensate as cryatals.

[GhostRider750 614]

 

Developers said they will either allow a 1 time transfer to the Unity

Hi.  This is what they initially said but they seem to be casting some doubt upon it now.  Unfortunately I don't have more quotes from devs or community managers to put here supporting this because I haven't been collecting them.  I'm just hoping that something like my suggestion here will be considered if the assets we currently have are not transferred.

 

I'm very much looking forward to Unity Tanki and I know many other players are too.    :D

[creeperskelly 1,281]

Somehow I expect that moving to Unity with a clean garage will be an "experiment" and we will be told that the overwhelming feedback of players is that a clean garage with no transfers is what people want.

 

We should either receive the same items as we have now, or, the equivalent in crystals.

 

Anything less is simply a scam and it will drive practically everyone away.

[smeth194243 6]

Somehow I expect that moving to Unity with a clean garage will be an "experiment" and we will be told that the overwhelming feedback of players is that a clean garage with no transfers is what people want.

 

We should either receive the same items as we have now, or, the equivalent in crystals.

 

Anything less is simply a scam and it will drive practically everyone away.

Very true. I have bought a fair amount of crystals myself and It would be super sad to see it all go to waste. The crystal compensation in my opinion:

 

PROS:

-Gives players their tank back essentially

-If it happened, its a great reason to stay with the game

 

Cons:

-It can potentially ruin the game. For example, Players might not use the crystals they have on the gear they had, they might just change and focus the profit on just a couple things. For example, back in the later days of my account, I bought every m1 that I could obtain among those was m1 titan, which i probably haven't used since then. If i was given the ability to be paid back all of my crystals in full, there are many things in my garage I would not use, or buy, giving me a mountain of unused crystals. I have come to use XP (hornet, rail) for everything. If I just bought that tank back, I would probably spend the rest on MU's and paints.

 

I really, really don't want to be the pessimist here, I really don't. I even want it to happen, but I don't. If there was a way to get crystal compensation, it would ruin the game. The players could buy countless amounts of supplies, fully micro upgrade tanks, and go all out from the start, giving many people a very hard time.(People only 6 ranks into the game, faced with last rank players with hundreds of thousands of crystals more than them, being reset to the same rank wouldn't work.) While I would love it because It gives me a chance to get a better garage, It would cause more problems than could be fixed. Also, it would be very difficult for the developers to come up with an exact amount of crystals. If someone bought a kit (on sale) the crystals they spent vs the crystals that those items cost would be very VERY different numbers. It would unbalance things even more.

 

The only possible solution I can think of, Is for tanki to publish a brand new page called ACCOUNT CLAIM, in which the user logs in using their normal game password and user name(Confirms the validity of the person). They would just immediately enter into the garage, and based off of their PLAYER PROFILE'S(Not in existence yet, but it will before unity tanki right?) Say 3 most common tanks, it gives a sum of the TOTAL cost(Discards discounts) of those tanks.(Gives you an amount. Maximum amount of crystals, maybe there can be a cap of up to 1000000 crystals. Maybe it could be based on rank?) It will give you a total, show you then items that number is represented by and will ask "Do you approve this conversion?" or something like that. You can say yes, or no, and Edit the tanks you would like to change.(The reason for this being, I think the 3 most used would be the most expensive right?) I think that rank could also be incorporated as well. There is no faking that when you use the login :) 

 

There are a couple possible variations to that gigantic, slightly impossible, yet mostly possible plan. for example:

-Instead of being given the crystal amount for your 3 best tanks(Could be different depending on rank), you could have the option to choose Items to keep,Items to be sold(Both have a limit), and the leftovers to ditch. Maybe 3 hulls, 3 guns, 6 paints, and whatever supplies you have?

-If they player has a large amount of crystals when the transfer is made, they maybe get their options extended a little bit. (Ability to sell more items, or keep more.

-If the player has bought crystals they get more of their stuff back depending on how much

 

 

OK I'M FINALLY DONE. I know that lots of these ideas suck and would never work, but its still worth a shot. I don't care regardless of whether they do or not, but I think we can all agree that if tanki wants to maintain its popularity, they need something to aid the transfer, as thousands of players have spent countless hours and dollars on their equipment, and is the reason they get funded. If that all went away, so would their cash flow. I hope that the team can figure out how to take care of this in an effective and player approved way. If you were interested enough to read to this point,thank you. :D

[tommybau 1,033]

No one is sure about what will happen, but there are only 2 possible case scenarios:

 

1) The Devs will allow us to transfer accounts cause the games + - match  eachoter: no refunds, only a pale garage transfer.

(Because no one sane of mind wants to repeat the mess that happened during Rebalance! and remember we have micro upgrades now.. is just not possible without making someone unhappy.)

Probably a high percentage of the player base will just move to the new game, and Flash tanki online will be forgotten in a few months, being shut down cause only 3 tanks, a cat and a mouse were left playing in a sandbox game.

 

2) The Devs, for any reason in this world, will not allow garage transfer and just force a fresh start for everyone like a new game (too much different game mechanics? Different prices? Premium? Premium-only equipment? Premium currency like the old Rubies concept? no one knows, there are soooo many variables!)

Most of the high ranked players and spenders will just stay here, ignoring the new game that would force them to start over and scrap years of effort, money and time. they will continue to play Flash tanki untill the end of the world, and Unity tanki will just cohesist with it.

 

As an old tanki player, i know 99% of the peoples here would love the first option, but only the time will tell. in a few months, we will have notices. We can just hope the Devs will not eat up their words and allow us to move to the new game in full swing!

[ChineseTankMan 98]

Well, we're talking about the case where players will have to start from 0 (no garage transfer), in this case if:

 

A. The majority of players move to Unity, then this means the majority of players have no problem losing everything in their current accounts and starting from scratch again. If the Unity version kicks off with a new monetization model and most players are happy with it, then yes the flash version will eventually die out.

 

B. The majority of players don't like the idea of starting all over so they decide to stick with their hard-earned accounts in the flash version, and in this case the Unity version will develop its own player base. And I bet most players who threaten to leave the game will eventually settle for the Unity TO.

 

I cannot see why anyone would want to leave the game if both versions stay active and they get to choose which one they want to play. Unless we're dealing with pampered kids here!

When I said that if I switch over to Unity that I'd then want to start over,

I did not mean with 0 crystals.

I instead meant with everything I've so far accumulated including what I payed for items, upgrades, and micro-upgrades.

Otherwise

 I won't be willing to start over.

[ChineseTankMan 98]

It can potentially ruin the game. For example, Players might not use the crystals they have on the gear they had, they might just change and focus the profit on just a couple things. For example, back in the later days of my account, I bought every m1 that I could obtain among those was m1 titan, which i probably haven't used since then. If i was given the ability to be paid back all of my crystals in full, there are many things in my garage I would not use, or buy, giving me a mountain of unused crystals. I have come to use XP (hornet, rail) for everything. If I just bought that tank back, I would probably spend the rest on MU's and paints.

 

...that's what I intend on doing if I get all my resources I've invested switched over to Unity.

If that doesn't happen I'm staying here.

If they shut this down and essentially only have Unity, then I am completely leaving Tanki.

[ChineseTankMan 98]

 

//The only possible solution I can think of, Is for tanki to publish a brand new page called ACCOUNT CLAIM, in which the user logs in using their normal game password and user name(Confirms the validity of the person). They would just immediately enter into the garage, and based off of their PLAYER PROFILE'S(Not in existence yet, but it will before unity tanki right?) Say 3 most common tanks, it gives a sum of the TOTAL cost(Discards discounts) of those tanks.(Gives you an amount. Maximum amount of crystals, maybe there can be a cap of up to 1000000 crystals. Maybe it could be based on rank?) It will give you a total, show you then items that number is represented by and will ask "Do you approve this conversion?" or something like that. You can say yes, or no, and Edit the tanks you would like to change.(The reason for this being, I think the 3 most used would be the most expensive right?) I think that rank could also be incorporated as well. There is no faking that when you use the login :)

 

There are a couple possible variations to that gigantic, slightly impossible, yet mostly possible plan. for example:

-Instead of being given the crystal amount for your 3 best tanks(Could be different depending on rank), you could have the option to choose Items to keep,Items to be sold(Both have a limit), and the leftovers to ditch. Maybe 3 hulls, 3 guns, 6 paints, and whatever supplies you have?

-If they player has a large amount of crystals when the transfer is made, they maybe get their options extended a little bit. (Ability to sell more items, or keep more.

-If the player has bought crystals they get more of their stuff back depending on how much//

 

^ quoting someone else.

Apparently when I edited away what I didn't want to waste space on, who and when it was quoted from was removed too.

 

 

If that happens I'm not switching over to Unity.

[iamthebadboy2 168]

Great idea, Ghost! I think they should transfer ranks to the new Tanki, as well. If it is completely new ranking system, than they should give us a crystal bonus for each rank we've passed. Maybe.

[iamthebadboy2 168]

One thing that is quite obvious: if Devs make Unity/Steam Tanki, and they don't transfer progress, about half of the active community will leave. They will HAVE to do something, or the game will be practically dead.

[Bradley_2015 6]

If I am Recruit again then ...

[Bradley_2015 6]

One thing that is quite obvious: if Devs make Unity/Steam Tanki, and they don't transfer progress, about half of the active community will leave. They will HAVE to do something, or the game will be practically dead.

or It will be the same ranks with new ranks beyond Generalissimo or in between which could be many of the possibilities on Unity Tanki

[IVIr.Blue 865]

Great idea but i would not like to start as a 'PRIVATE' again.

[PuncherTank 37]

 I won't be willing to start over.

 

This is what I'm talking about, that players who wish not to start over from 0 would be able to continue playing in the flash version. There can be different reasons/attractions for many players to keep playing in the flash TO if the Unity version adopts a different monetization model. Reasons to continue playing flash TO could be:

 

• Players with low end PC's may get better FPS and less lag in the flash version (this would depend on Unity's requirements, so I'm not sure about it).
• I suggest that Unity TO only have medium-large, large and very large maps with 15 players as a max team size (for best technical performance). This means many players with inadequate PC's that cause lags on large maps would be better off staying in the flash version playing Polygon, Silence, Sandbox, etc.
• I suggested that Gold Boxes be removed from Unity TO. Keeping Gold Boxes in the flash version would be a major attraction for many players to keep playing here.
• Other free bonuses can be offered once the Unity version is released to encourage players to keep playing in the flash version; like more Gold Boxes, double battle fund, increased daily gifts, contests, etc.

And a word of advice to TO: Don't waste time and resources on developing a mobile version of the game. Most serious gamers, and especially those who spend money, use PC's to play games - this is the kind of players that should be sought after, not some bored kids looking for free games to play on their mobile!

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

NOBODY intends to spit into players' faces. It will either be a complete transfer of current progress, or as many goodies as possible for old players. You guys helped Tanki get to where it is today, so we will not let you down. Rest assured.

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I would like the full value of my garage returned to me. It doesn't matter if it is paid back in stages or over time just as long as it is paid back. Anything else would be a spit in the face. No caps, no limits, I want the full value. 

[PuncherTank 37]

Anything else would be a spit in the face.

If they keep the flash version up and running it wouldn't be!

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

If they keep the flash version up and running it wouldn't be!

No point in being the wealthiest player in Flash if there is nobody to play against is there?