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They are using a database for account settings, wallet, and your garage. It seems improbable it would take that long to import a database from the Flash version to the Unity version. Realistically should take a few minutes at most.

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thing is that 100% crystal multiplier most likely won't equal the amount of crystals that people have on TO flash. for instance lets say someone spent $300 USD on crystals with 2x crystal pass and got around 2.3m crystals. do you think that 7 days for 2x crystal gain is good enough for the committed TO users that pay. not to mention one of the main sources of income of tanki online would be crystal buyers. think how mad they may be that they didn't get an equivalent crystal transfer to there new tanki online unity account. and this might make them so mad that they may not want to ever pay crystals again or even quit the game because it all went to waste. you might say "well TO flash is still here as long as people play it" well my opinion on that is that TO flash will eventually die out fairly soon after TO unity comes out. i mean think about GTA 1 does anyone even play that game anymore considering that GTA 5 is now out with way more features which this TO unity will have. if we put our time and money into the game then don't you think the dev's should put time and effort into getting a solution for this? specifically what raredust wrote is an amazing idea that tanki online should take into consideration. why not have the choice to keep your garage/crystals or restart? and don't say that TO might not be able to because that is definitely possible. the game runescape did it without hesitation when they came out with the adaptable economy which is now known as the grand exchange. so i don't know why TO dev can't do this. I'm just saying that people that paid money for flash should get a transfer to unity otherwise they may quit and depending on how many quit TO might lose income and go bankrupt. so this is a risky subject.

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thing is that 100% crystal multiplier most likely won't equal the amount of crystals that people have on TO flash. for instance lets say someone spent $300 USD on crystals with 2x crystal pass and got around 2.3m crystals. do you think that 7 days for 2x crystal gain is good enough for the committed TO users that pay. not to mention one of the main sources of income of tanki online would be crystal buyers. think how mad they may be that they didn't get an equivalent crystal transfer to there new tanki online unity account. and this might make them so mad that they may not want to ever pay crystals again or even quit the game because it all went to waste. you might say "well TO flash is still here as long as people play it" well my opinion on that is that TO flash will eventually die out fairly soon after TO unity comes out. i mean think about GTA 1 does anyone even play that game anymore considering that GTA 5 is now out with way more features which this TO unity will have. if we put our time and money into the game then don't you think the dev's should put time and effort into getting a solution for this? specifically what raredust wrote is an amazing idea that tanki online should take into consideration. why not have the choice to keep your garage/crystals or restart? and don't say that TO might not be able to because that is definitely possible. the game runescape did it without hesitation when they came out with the adaptable economy which is now known as the grand exchange. so i don't know why TO dev can't do this. I'm just saying that people that paid money for flash should get a transfer to unity otherwise they may quit and depending on how many quit TO might lose income and go bankrupt. so this is a risky subject.

Agreed, but everyone should get a transfer to Unity. This is a free-to-play game: at least that 's the official reading.

 

So IMO also players who only spend a lot of time in Tanki and have always been part of the TO fabric should get some sort

of compensation or transfer. (most of the times these are not guys with full blown garages as well)

 

There wouldn 't have been a Tanki as we know it if there would have been only buyers to play it. -_-

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This version of the game will remain open even after the unity one has been released. Although I totally understand your explanation and I believe it would stand for a fair majority of the game. I strongly believe that even if tanki doesn't deiced to transfer over acc's, that this version will most likely dominate the Unity version as far as player activity.

Only if TO doesn 't transfer our accounts our give a compensation,

this might actually be the case for a short time after Unity 's release.

But do you really think TO/Alternativa spend all that cash (because Unity makes zero, nil money till the release)

to have a game that nobody will play?

Also if Unity players are enthusiastic about the new version: what will happen do you think?

Will Tankers stay on Flash? I doubt it.

No, the company 's future is depending on the success of TO Unity.

And it could well be a very profitable future, because they can spread their chances on multiple platforms.

 

Is this what you read? Where did I write that?

 

I just commented the issue with "high pressure on beginners, if they are surrounded by gissmos". I wrote nothing about garage.

thanks, Rohr.

There was nothing in that post to indicate (in my view) that you were concerned about your garage.

I thought that what you proposed in that post was just it.

So I jumped to conclusions, sorry for that!

 

I want my account to be transferd but I will not quit if it isn't I will just stay on flash.

As long as Flash lasts...

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I posted this in a different topic but I decided it would be good to post it here as well.

 

 

Semyon Kirov, on 28 Jul 2015 - 14:24, said:snapback.png

 

 

If the new Unity version of Tanki doesn't allow for our current accounts to be transferred over with what we currently have then the next best thing would be for tanki to calculate for each player the current value of assets in each player's account (right before the Unity version starts) and transfer that value to crystals in the player's new Unity account.

 

For clarification here are some examples using current game crystal costs:

 

 

M3 rail is valued at 218,300 crystals.  If 500,000 crystals have been spent on mini-upgrades for it then the total value of this asset would be 718,300 crystals.

 

Tundra paint is valued at 35,500 crystals.  With 0 mini-upgrades its value would remain at 35,500 crystals.

 

200 repair kits valued at 150 each would have a total value of 30,000 crystals.

 

 

Once the value of a player's current assets in his account is determined that value would be the opening crystal balance in the same player's new Unity Tanki account.  This may not be a 1:1 ratio depending upon the pricing rate of assets in the new Unity version of Tanki but some fair equivalent (either full or partial compensation) could be determined.

 

What I have suggested so far isn't perfect.  For example, maybe a player currently has 500 of each supply (unused) that may or may not have been purchased in a "supplies 500 kit" at 55% off.  The current value of this kit is 78,749 crystals.  Having 500 of each supply (unused) would have a value of 78,749 crystals.

 

Whether a player's current account assets were purchased with real money or simply collected from game play, the value of the player's current assets would be the same either way.

 

Maybe Tanki's administration in Perm, Russia, is already considering something like this. I don't know.  For many players such as me it would be comforting to know that our time and/or money spent on the current version of Tanki won't be lost in the new Unity version.

 

What I have suggested is only a starting point but I hope it is helpful.    :)

 

 

Also, something to keep in mind is that Tanki is a real world business with many real world expenses.  Players need reasons to spend real money on Tanki for the business to survive.

so youre saying tanki should do it again like in rebalance 2012

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What about sales? Half of us purchased stuff during sales at 25% or even 50% off? And we get the full value refunded? We'll end up with a lot more crystals than we actually spent on our equipment. On the other hand others who've spent the full amount of crystals will go crazy if they only get half the value in return..

good.

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i have just reached the rank of gizmo, it has been very enjoyable but also hard work, and a few pennies have been spent attaining this highest of ranks which every player hopes to achieve at some point in the game. my concern and that of a lot of other tanki players is that when the new version of tanki finally arrives we will all have to start from scratch. this is not a problem for new players starting out in the game but for us high ranked players who have dedicated time effort and in lots of cases MONEY it has to be said its a little unfair. my point and its to the benefit of everyone involved in the game from the lowest ranked players thru to gizmo right up to the powers that be who make these decisions is that if accounts are not switched over to the newer version you will 1 cause resentment towards yourselves from the players who have most to lose and 2 you will over time lose these experienced players who bring much to game and in doing so you will also lose out financially.i am not sure how hard or time consuming switching accounts would be, but surely we as players who in the main enjoy the game very much (and lets not forget without the players you would not have a game) should still be able to enjoy the newer version without having to start all over again. ITS THE RIGHT THING TO DO TANKI. regards cosmic666  

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a goodies bag is poor compensation for the months and months i have spent playing tanki. the idea of giving crystals to the value of a players garage is not a bad one but still does not compare to switching accounts to the newer version. lets put it this way i was going to purchase clay paint not anymore i did get smokey m3 (reflecting negatively on that now) switching accounts is the right thing to do ...just make sure the new version is  COMPATIBLE TO DO SO after all you are the designers of the new version so make it happen tanki. regards cos666 . 

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well i have read every single comment about the transfer from old TO to the newer version .... most are constructive and make good argument for transfers to happen .some are blunt and aggressive towards you. the common factor in all this , we all want a fair deal tanki we are dedicated players i like many love the game its brilliant please make it happen,  TRANSFER ACCOUNTS  over to newer version. if not you not only lose out financially but something MONEY cannot  buy... RESPECT. COSMIC666

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hey puncher ...no its not just a game its a way of life for many i work hard and i relax and have fun by playing this game ive invested time effort and money in this game . if we cant have our accounts switched then ta ta no way im spending another penny on this ..not even bothered about daily missions anymore cant even buy the paint i want because no way im wasting cry on something i might not have in a few weeks. 

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everyone listen up .. no transfer we all become low ranked noobs again with nothing to distinguish us from newbies totally unfair as the high ranked players among us have put much time and effort into game to achieve the rank we are at now ..is this not totally and utterly unfair

 

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this update would be very bad if tanki will return us to beginners rank and all m0 !!

its just a waste of time ! we are happy without this update, i think tanki will lose too many players in this game

im the first one who will quit if this happens , because its like disrecpecting us as players so Dont makes this bad step of transfering accounts !

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hey puncher ...no its not just a game its a way of life for many i work hard and i relax and have fun by playing this game ive invested time effort and money in this game . if we cant have our accounts switched then ta ta no way im spending another penny on this ..not even bothered about daily missions anymore cant even buy the paint i want because no way im wasting cry on something i might not have in a few weeks. 

AGREE

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going back to m0.well it is bad..if the company does that..i wont spend anything on the new tanki./.i will play it..but never spend on it.if the compsany wants to show its true colors.let me show mine by not spending anything:)

 

yea the worst they can do is keep subscription then am of tanki forever.its time to go to war thunder full time.

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 It is my opinion that transfer current accounts, will not be. Developers think that Tanki X, a completely new game ( and you all know that the new game is playing from a start, or in our case from m0 ). And now some of us played that game 3 - 4 years, and even more, some of us invest real money in this game, that devolepers do not care. When Tanki X come, tanki online will be fast dying game.So think carefully, whether you want devote, several years of playing and yours money in new Tanki X. 

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The scenario that seems most likely to me, is that:

(this is not an official statement, also no rumors. It is just what I would consider as "usefull and do-able")

- we all start as "recruits"

- depending on our current rank we get some kind of score & crystal multiplyer.
  Medium ranks get +50% + small drug package

  Top ranks gets a +100% + medium drug package
  above 3Mio XP get +150% + large drug package

- something like premium accounts will work on top of it, so if a generalissimo gets premium he will have like 100%+100%= +200% crystals and +150% experience

- Those free passes will last for.. 4 months? Has to be calculated.

 

By that means the players will rank at very different speeds, and everyone will be where he was in a much shorter time.

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I don't actually understand why anyone wants to transfer accounts. It's an entirely new game, and anyone who plays it should have to start from recruit. What would be the point of a new game, if it's basically the old one, just with better graphics and such, and a different name? So you would need to spend money again to buy all M3's if you so desire. But I simply don't understand everyone's desire to transfer accounts. I am not playing the new game so personally I don't care either way. But, I do hope Tanki Online stays  now as it is, because I have big plans ahead :)

 

Though, I do think it will continue as Tanki Online, as long as people still log in to play it.

 

That's my hope at least.

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