Changes to Daily Missions are live

[r_Skills_01534711290 1]

Yes

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub: :wub:

[BARBARBQ 0]

I AM GONNA HUNT THE XT MISSION TILL I GET IT :D 

[ariking777 940]

Is this 50-50 chance, to get crystal ? Reward is still low. From me again one big down vote.

Lol :D Windows XP?!

 

Anyways - below I'm gonna write a little paragraph as a response to your post, so please just go out if you've just waken up or you're not in the mood to read a lot :D

 

 

When Semyon talks about chances, no matter of what, he distorts it (to my humble knowledge, at least). For instance, the Gold Boxes are claimed to have 1/10k chance to drop for each Crystal added to the fund. Now, look at the x5 Funds day. I agree that there were many Golds, but they certainly didn't drop every 2k in the Fund - I played numerous battles that got to 25k Fund approximately with no Gold dropped, and a friend of mine (@Alklines) even told me in one of those Gold-free battles that he's played a battle with 40k fund and no Gold, and with x5 Funds that's supposed to increase the Golds' chance to drop by 5 times bigger! :mellow:

[senadaren 16]

You know what? I agree that there was a need to decrease the rewards, but by 50%? That's certainly too extensive. And by the way, I wouldn't open my mouth even once to complain about the decrease, had it been really balanced: Why was only our income balanced down once it got too big (with Daily Missions), and wasn't balanced up when Crystal Boxes were removed?? The removal of Crystal Boxes heavily decreased the income of all players, especially low-ranked ones, and nothing was done to compensate for it.

 

To sum my case up - only when we get too many Crystals, there's a need for a balance. When we are forced to accept a heavy decrease in our income, nothing's done.

 

How 'bout that, fella? :P

well said...

[Indra_Otsutsuki 329]

Oh yeaaaaaah B)

[Doctor.Noob 3,270]

Lol :D Windows XP?!

 

Anyways - below I'm gonna write a little paragraph as a response to your post, so please just go out if you've just waken up or you're not in the mood to read a lot :D

 

 

When Semyon talks about chances, no matter of what, he distorts it (to my humble knowledge, at least). For instance, the Gold Boxes are claimed to have 1/10k chance to drop for each Crystal added to the fund. Now, look at the x5 Funds day. I agree that there were many Golds, but they certainly didn't drop every 2k in the Fund - I played numerous battles that got to 25k Fund approximately with no Gold dropped, and a friend of mine (@Alklines) even told me in one of those Gold-free battles that he's played a battle with 40k fund and no Gold, and with x5 Funds that's supposed to increase the Golds' chance to drop by 5 times bigger! :mellow:

Can I ask how old are you ? According to what you wrote, probably 14 -15 ? I have to many year, to know when someone makes a fool out of me,as they do developers of this game.

[ariking777 940]

Can I ask how old are you ? According to what you wrote, probably 14 -15 ? I have to many year, to know when someone makes a fool out of me,as they do developers of this game.

Right to the target :D I turned 14 at the beginning of July :)

[1231kx 6]

I do a daily quest. Without changes. There are no props prize, just crystal. None collectsupplies. Reward crystal. Each group will rank mission (XT-M0, M1-xt, -xt m2, m3 xt,xt-m4 ... all the weapons and tank). 100 - 12 options that the player can not see after the mission, and response. Random XT prize. According to the next rank. For example:you can win VH2 performed 100 missions m1railgun, hornet XT. Or m1thunder m1hunter xt. Excitement?

[ariking777 940]

I do a daily quest. Without changes. There are no props prize, just crystal. None collectsupplies. Reward crystal. Each group will rank mission (XT-M0, M1-xt, -xt m2, m3 xt,xt-m4 ... all the weapons and tank). 100 - 12 options that the player can not see after the mission, and response. Random XT prize. According to the next rank. For example:you can win VH2 performed 100 missions m1railgun, hornet XT. Or m1thunder m1hunter xt. Excitement?

Was that written with Google Translate or something? It seems a rather random gabble of words ;)

[dfoofnik 341]

Why was only our income balanced down once it got too big (with Daily Missions), and wasn't balanced up when Crystal Boxes were removed?? The removal of Crystal Boxes heavily decreased the income of all players, especially low-ranked ones, and nothing was done to compensate for it.

I joined in December, so I missed the whole "crystals dropping from the sky" era. Except those rare Gold Boxes.

By "balance", the devs mean that they see income from buying crystals dropping below their ROI, which is the Return on Investment that any business needs to survive. It's not like they get government subsidies, or charitable donations. But what that ROI is, and how it relates to the cost of implementing Unity, and how much the bosses are getting paid (it's a bunch)...those are going to stay a secret. Suffice to say, if they stop getting a certain amount of cash every week (many thousands of dollars / millions of rubles), the freebies will get cut back.

I don't like it, you don't like it, but it's better than making bad changes to the game itself. :(

Or, like two other major sites, ads out the wazoo...

Edited August 6, 2015 by dfoofnik

[ariking777 940]

By "balance", the devs mean that they see income from buying crystals dropping below their ROI, which is the Return on Investment that any business needs to survive. It's not like they get government subsidies, or charitable donations. But what that ROI is, and how it relates to the cost of implementing Unity, and how much the bosses are getting paid (it's a bunch)...those are going to stay a secret. Suffice to say, if they stop getting a certain amount of cash (many thousands of dollars / millions of rubles), the freebies will get cut back.

I don't like it, you don't like it, but it's better than making bad changes to the game itself. :(

What are those silly updates for Daily Missions, removal of Crystal Boxes and marking Gold drop zone if not bad changes to the game itself??

[M-REDA 0]

Yay  i will get millon crystals now  ;)  ;)

[GorcsevIvan 55]

You have not mentioned another excellent change:

 

From now on the color of the Claim reward button is green. That clearly distinguishes it from the grey Change.

I really appreciate it.

[creeperskelly 1,281]

Figures. With daily gifts the amount of gifts was the same as the missions.

So now we have to spend an hour or so playing just to get what we got as a bonus before this.

How is this a good deal?

 

This is just like what happened to the crystal drops. You drop bigger ones, complain it affects game play, then remove them all and claim they are part of the battle funds now.

 

This time you take away daily gifts, replace them with daily missions, release missions with big gifts, nerf those, then make it look like some magnanimous gesture when all we are doing is having to do work now for what was once available anyways by simply logging in.

 

Receiving the same value in missions as once was given in daily gifts - how is this a good thing exactly?

[GorcsevIvan 55]

What are those silly updates for Daily Missions, removal of Crystal Boxes and marking Gold drop zone if not bad changes to the game itself??

I am not sure about that.

Daily Missions are not really bad. The marking of the GB zone is good for some and bad for some. I don't feel collecting fewer GB than before, neither more.

[creeperskelly 1,281]

You see, it's all a lie:

 

 

Daily missions are worth less than the amount we used to receive in daily gifts.

[GorcsevIvan 55]

 

When Semyon talks about chances, no matter of what, he distorts it (to my humble knowledge, at least). For instance, the Gold Boxes are claimed to have 1/10k chance to drop for each Crystal added to the fund. Now, look at the x5 Funds day. I agree that there were many Golds, but they certainly didn't drop every 2k in the Fund - I played numerous battles that got to 25k Fund approximately with no Gold dropped, and a friend of mine (@Alklines) even told me in one of those Gold-free battles that he's played a battle with 40k fund and no Gold, and with x5 Funds that's supposed to increase the Golds' chance to drop by 5 times bigger! :mellow:

I did not see much gold either. On the other hand I saw a friend playing for 10 minutes only. In 5 min. there were twice double gold. So, two GB simultaneously. and in a few min. another GB. Then a quite low rank player got GB twice in a battle which usually has no any. So, definitely the rate increased. I played for 3 hours, but I did not feel that. Having not seen those battles before I would also consider something.

 

On the other hand: with increased battle fund the GB chance does not increased. The higher GB rate comes from the higher fund increase rate. Let's say the GB chance is 1/10k as you wrote. It is the same in the 5x fund  time, too. If they had changed that to 1/2k, then the GB chance would have been 25 times higher than in a normal day.

[gold_144 16]

Good one update. :wub:

[ariking777 940]

I did not see much gold either. On the other hand I saw a friend playing for 10 minutes only. In 5 min. there were twice double gold. So, two GB simultaneously. and in a few min. another GB. Then a quite low rank player got GB twice in a battle which usually has no any. So, definitely the rate increased. I played for 3 hours, but I did not feel that. Having not seen those battles before I would also consider something.

 

On the other hand: with increased battle fund the GB chance does not increased. The higher GB rate comes from the higher fund increase rate. Let's say the GB chance is 1/10k as you wrote. It is the same in the 5x fund  time, too. If they had changed that to 1/2k, then the GB chance would have been 25 times higher than in a normal day.

I must say that you have a math mistake in what you've written. If the chances of a Gold Box to drop are normally 1/10k, and the Funds are increased by x5, that means that the 1/10k chance has x5 opportunities to occur - imagine a roulette with 10k slots and one of them is the Gold once. If you'd rotate the roulette 10k times, you will probably have already reached the Gold Box. But if you rotate the roulette 50k times (x5 Funds)? That means that you will probably have reached the Gold 5 times rather than 1. In other words, this time you committed a mistake :D 

Edited August 6, 2015 by ariking777

[promy_2014 2]

what is XT missions?

[Michalus 182]

Nice update, but -50% can´t be forgotten :)

[Darren4Turbo 4,913]

Nice change :D

[ZAIDI79 63]

for those who are talking abt gb on 5x battle funds  day...u guys should have played ploygon cp all day as gb dropped three or two time in each 15 min game......as time increases the gb rate increases  in it...

[ariking777 940]

for those who are talking abt gb on 5x battle funds  day...u guys should have played ploygon cp all day as gb dropped three or two time in each 15 min game......as time increases the gb rate increases  in it...

Lol :D I played some Kungur CTF's with 8 Golds in a single 15 minutes round, and also Polygon CP's of 30 minutes with not even a single Gold :)

[Captin_XLAB 276]

Yes really needed that :P