Is "ladies first" Sexist?

[QuakerOats 28]

This is where you should have stopped. Religion cannot affect opinion on this. Men and women should have the same rights. What makes them so different? Just because some people have X chromosomes, and some have Y chromosomes, (In English just because some people are born male or female) Does NOT mean our rights are different. Sure, "Ladies first" isint a right. But guess what? all we need is one mistake, one TINY act of sexism or racism to cause a BIG problem.

Just like the fire setters in Ferguson...

[slycleaversmart 1,154]

ok but why did this get so much down votes......????????? 

 

honestly its there opinion and they didnt say anything offensive... and guess what people, his opinion is becoming the majority of the worlds opinon. especially with the whole feminist movement. 

 

and yeah if you dont like it downvote it but -22???? seriously? it looks like some people used their alt accounts or something to get it this low...

No it sthe fact the topic is just plain dumb! this was meant to be a nice gesture and they are saying its sexist! 

[slycleaversmart 1,154]

This is where you should have stopped. Religion cannot affect opinion on this. Men and women should have the same rights. What makes them so different? Just because some people have X chromosomes, and some have Y chromosomes, (In English just because some people are born male or female) Does NOT mean our rights are different. Sure, "Ladies first" isint a right. But guess what? all we need is one mistake, one TINY act of sexism or racism to cause a BIG problem.

Big problem? This is all a big problem! you saying that Men and Women are the same Thing!! Do we say that male dogs are the same a female dogs NO! Why does today's culture have to be so sensitive!? Life aint fair! People are rude and self continuous, However this doesn't mean everyone is like that! I am a Man I was born that way. had I have been born a woman nothing would be different about what I said Lady's First is not sexist! its just not! no matter how many people say and believe it is the fact remains its a polite gesture allowing Women to go before a man. Just because maybe you delude (lie to your self) it as sexist does not mean others will! I believe I speak for those who don't have to vocabulary or knowledge to stand up to these lies put out by people just to make a big stir.

[Dark-Rim 183]

Big problem? This is all a big problem! you saying that Men and Women are the same Thing!! Do we say that male dogs are the same a female dogs NO! Why does today's culture have to be so sensitive!? Life aint fair! People are rude and self continuous, However this doesn't mean everyone is like that! I am a Man I was born that way. had I have been born a woman nothing would be different about what I said Lady's First is not sexist! its just not! no matter how many people say and believe it is the fact remains its a polite gesture allowing Women to go before a man. Just because maybe you delude (lie to your self) it as sexist does not mean others will! I believe I speak for those who don't have to vocabulary or knowledge to stand up to these lies put out by people just to make a big stir.

Now you are comparing humans to dogs? Please explain how males and females are different as we are both human. (Besides the obvious). Just yesterday my bus driver put her arm out and stopped me as i was leaving the bus, and said "Ladies first" as the girl next to me stood up and left. This is the kind of thing that makes me mad and proves this is sexist.

Edited September 4, 2015 by Dark-Rim

[biulding23 209]

Now you are comparing humans to dogs? Please explain how males and females are different as we are both human. (Besides the obvious). Just yesterday my bus driver put her arm out and stopped me as i was leaving the bus, and said "Ladies first" as the girl next to me stood up and left. This is the kind of thing that makes me mad and proves this is sexist.

geeze u dont give up do u it is because it is being nice! to the weaker sex

[slycleaversmart 1,154]

Now you are comparing humans to dogs? Please explain how males and females are different as we are both human. (Besides the obvious). Just yesterday my bus driver put her arm out and stopped me as i was leaving the bus, and said "Ladies first" as the girl next to me stood up and left. This is the kind of thing that makes me mad and proves this is sexist.

 

geeze u dont give up do u it is because it is being nice! to the weaker sex

Building I agree with you 100% Dark Rim you are wrong. It is not sexist it is simply good manners don't you remember your mom (or Dad) telling you about good manners? + if you are going to school then I understand that maybe you are too young and suborn to see the error in you thoughts on this topic. I am probably no older than you, but I understand things in a ways adults do, Due to my upbringing. maybe this generation is trying to forget about chivalry and move to everyone is equal and every thing has to be fair ECT. SERIOUSLY! Wake UP! this is the 21st century! not everything is fair! People are tortured and killed all over the world every day people are beaten to death by dictators just for their beliefs! This world is not fair so show a bit of Chivalry to the "Fine sex" they deserve it don't you think? heck if it weren't for girls you wouldn't be alive. Ponder that for awhile. P.S. I am not going to stop I am a debater in real life anything you throw at me I will fight it and eventually I will win.

[biulding23 209]

Building I agree with you 100% Dark Rim you are wrong. It is not sexist it is simply good manners don't you remember your mom (or Dad) telling you about good manners? + if you are going to school then I understand that maybe you are too young and suborn to see the error in you thoughts on this topic. I am probably no older than you, but I understand things in a ways adults do, Due to my upbringing. maybe this generation is trying to forget about chivalry and move to everyone is equal and every thing has to be fair ECT. SERIOUSLY! Wake UP! this is the 21st century! not everything is fair! People are tortured and killed all over the world every day people are beaten to death by dictators just for their beliefs! This world is not fair so show a bit of Chivalry to the "Fine sex" they deserve it don't you think? heck if it weren't for girls you wouldn't be alive. Ponder that for awhile. P.S. I am not going to stop I am a debater in real life anything you throw at me I will fight it and eventually I will win.

i think u and my younger bro r tight! ;) hes like that (even with his teacher hes ushaly right!

[Dark-Rim 183]

Building I agree with you 100% Dark Rim you are wrong. It is not sexist it is simply good manners don't you remember your mom (or Dad) telling you about good manners? + if you are going to school then I understand that maybe you are too young and suborn to see the error in you thoughts on this topic. I am probably no older than you, but I understand things in a ways adults do, Due to my upbringing. maybe this generation is trying to forget about chivalry and move to everyone is equal and every thing has to be fair ECT. SERIOUSLY! Wake UP! this is the 21st century! not everything is fair! People are tortured and killed all over the world every day people are beaten to death by dictators just for their beliefs! This world is not fair so show a bit of Chivalry to the "Fine sex" they deserve it don't you think? heck if it weren't for girls you wouldn't be alive. Ponder that for awhile. P.S. I am not going to stop I am a debater in real life anything you throw at me I will fight it and eventually I will win.

Maybe a debater, but it looks like you haven't taken a health class. Males are also required for reproduction. So, that's one more way females don't and should not have dominance over men.

Edited September 5, 2015 by Dark-Rim

[slycleaversmart 1,154]

i think u and my younger bro r tight! ;) hes like that (even with his teacher hes ushaly right!

Lol Cool

[slycleaversmart 1,154]

Maybe a debater, but it looks like you haven't taken a health class. Males are also required for reproduction. So, that's one more way females don't and should not have dominance over men.

I know all about reproduction and don't think I am dumb. You know very well that a woman had to carry you around for 9 months and then go through child birth! Give women some credit I am not saying they should be able to rule us I am saying be kind and allow lady's to go first. Is that to hard to wrap your brain around? I feel that this generation has a tendency to think only they can be right. take the other guys beliefs into account. I have and I have found your point of view and I find it a bad one but its your own and I can't change that. However you must understand that women are not like you and me they are in most cases softer than males. If you can find one good excuse That would stump me on what to argue I will allow you to win. Mark my words you will not find one. Oh and one last note, ask a girl or two at your school about this *note* They must be random! And see what they say. Write that down and post it onto here I am curios to see. No changing it if you come back with like 2 people saying oh yeah its totally sexist no doubt I will not believe you for a split second. Good luck

[biulding23 209]

I know all about reproduction and don't think I am dumb. You know very well that a woman had to carry you around for 9 months and then go through child birth! Give women some credit I am not saying they should be able to rule us I am saying be kind and allow lady's to go first. Is that to hard to wrap your brain around? I feel that this generation has a tendency to think only they can be right. take the other guys beliefs into account. I have and I have found your point of view and I find it a bad one but its your own and I can't change that. However you must understand that women are not like you and me they are in most cases softer than males. If you can find one good excuse That would stump me on what to argue I will allow you to win. Mark my words you will not find one. Oh and one last note, ask a girl or two at your school about this *note* They must be random! And see what they say. Write that down and post it onto here I am curios to see. No changing it if you come back with like 2 people saying oh yeah its totally sexist no doubt I will not believe you for a split second. Good luck

:lol: so u chanlege him........

[slycleaversmart 1,154]

:lol: so u chanlege him........

Heck yeah, I am a debater so its not a real challenge to me LOL it ma be to him :P

[GHOST68INVINCIBLE 152]

Admin please close this topic or there would be heating argument going here.

Edited September 5, 2015 by GHOST68INVINCIBLE

[Dark-Rim 183]

I know all about reproduction and don't think I am dumb. You know very well that a woman had to carry you around for 9 months and then go through child birth! Give women some credit I am not saying they should be able to rule us I am saying be kind and allow lady's to go first. Is that to hard to wrap your brain around? I feel that this generation has a tendency to think only they can be right. take the other guys beliefs into account. I have and I have found your point of view and I find it a bad one but its your own and I can't change that. However you must understand that women are not like you and me they are in most cases softer than males. If you can find one good excuse That would stump me on what to argue I will allow you to win. Mark my words you will not find one. Oh and one last note, ask a girl or two at your school about this *note* They must be random! And see what they say. Write that down and post it onto here I am curios to see. No changing it if you come back with like 2 people saying oh yeah its totally sexist no doubt I will not believe you for a split second. Good luck

If you realized that you cant change my point of view, you would have already stopped arguing. Because now the only reason your arguing is simply for the boost of your self-esteem by winning the argument. "If you come back with 2 people saying oh yeah its totally sexist no doubt I will not believe you for a split second." This is basically like saying "Get me proof he didn't do the crime, but even if you do come back with proof were still arresting him."

[GoldRock 6,165]

Despite thinking that 'Ladies First' isn't sexist, Dark-Rim is quite clearly both the better and the more mature debater here... And arguing that 'Ladies First' is acceptable because sexism is acceptable really is abhorrent. I simply think it's acceptable because it's not really sexist.

[Klankill804 753]

Jaysus Dark what happened to you

[Dark-Rim 183]

Jaysus Dark what happened to you

I don't really know :huh:

[slycleaversmart 1,154]

If you realized that you cant change my point of view, you would have already stopped arguing. Because now the only reason your arguing is simply for the boost of your self-esteem by winning the argument. "If you come back with 2 people saying oh yeah its totally sexist no doubt I will not believe you for a split second." This is basically like saying "Get me proof he didn't do the crime, but even if you do come back with proof were still arresting him."

Oh wow. Man I am not doing anything of the sort I want you to go and see what other people think about this topic I believe you are just about the only one on here who thinks this is sexist. 

[slycleaversmart 1,154]

Despite thinking that 'Ladies First' isn't sexist, Dark-Rim is quite clearly both the better and the more mature debater here... And arguing that 'Ladies First' is acceptable because sexism is acceptable really is abhorrent. I simply think it's acceptable because it's not really sexist.

Dark-Rim is not saying it is acceptable dark is saying that this is a totally unacceptable term of speech.

[GoldRock 6,165]

Dark-Rim is not saying it is acceptable dark is saying that this is a totally unacceptable term of speech.

Yes, I know. I was calling some of the arguments you've made abhorrent, not his.

 

And many of the other arguments you've made are quite weak or logical fallacies, which is unfortunate because I happen to 'be on your side' that the term isn't sexist.

Edited September 6, 2015 by GoldRock

[dgslima82 143]

[biulding23 209]

Yes, I know. I was calling some of the arguments you've made abhorrent, not his.

 

And many of the other arguments you've made are quite weak or logical fallacies, which is unfortunate because I happen to 'be on your side' that the term isn't sexist.

well u got a better arugment?.....

[personia 4,036]

Technically, yes it is sexist, but in reality, it actually isn't hurting anyone, so who cares?

[slycleaversmart 1,154]

Yes, I know. I was calling some of the arguments you've made abhorrent, not his.

 

And many of the other arguments you've made are quite weak or logical fallacies, which is unfortunate because I happen to 'be on your side' that the term isn't sexist.

I am afraid you are right I don't think as well when i get passionate about an argument, My coach said that too.

[eminemrapgod 16]

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