Tanker's Day in TO

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

If they say no to a "transfer" now then players will just stop investing any money in this version.  If they say yes they will also have a lot of players stop spending while they just wait for the better version to come out. Either way they will have a much harder time earning money to fund the new version. 

 

@Canadian: Whaaah.

I don't really know about that bro. :P

If they do say Yes to a transfer, then why would people stop spending?

They purchase crystals, and it will still be transferred. They're not losing anything.

 

The gameplay is still relatively the same too. Some even like the current graphics better, what they've been always used to.

So will they stop playing, even though Unity is supposedly "better?" In my opinion no, especially since Unity being "better" is also an opinion.

Get what I mean? Yeeaaah sorry I didn't really word this last part very well. :(

 

So overall they've got nothing to lose by just telling everyone that a transfer will be possible.

 

Assuming you're right however, that they TO already has made the decision of yes or no and they don't want to tell us, then it's most likely a no . .Since, like you said, telling us no for a transfer early on will lead to less purchases of crystals.

 

And then they could always pull off the really IRRITATING move where they tell us no transfer at the last minute.

Give us all the "benefits" of Unity, and then be like oh yeah you lose all progress. GG no re m8.

 

But lets just hope they're not telling us yet because they're actually still deciding. . .boy I do hope there will be some type of transfer option for everyone. :D

If people want to transfer, then let them and boom, happy.

The people who don't want to transfer, well then let them start over again. Boom, happy.

The people who transferred could always make a new account anyway. Boom, happy.

 

But then again if TO really, really wants money then they could just say everyone start over. . .Boom, vast majority are sad/angry.

Or they could be even worse and let only buyers transfer. *shudder*

Edited September 11, 2015 by r_DidYouKnowThat0

[canadarules 1,938]

Either you don't understand English well, or you don't understand human communication altogether.

 

Semyon's response was rude and careless.

wow you really are what your name says.. a total baby

semyon's response is perfectly respectful and you guys are acting like babies the first tankmans day was 25% want that again?

get a life

[Baby_Sam 614]

I did not get that vibe at all. He clearly explained the reasoning behind the discount reduction. If anyone has been rude its you. Every one of your posts is highly sarcastic and unforgiving.

 

You talk about Tanki not meeting expectations, but there literally were no expectations set yet. The sales change all the time. 2012's Tankmen's day was only 25% on garage items for 2 days. 2013's was only 50% off because they made us do contests and take screenshots and stuff to get there. That one could have easily been 30% off or 40%. 2014's was the only one where they gave us 50% off on Tankmen's Day "just cause".

 

They also never claimed that "Tankmen's Day will always be 50% off!". The prices were not given til they were announced. You can't just ride on old expectations and be pissed off when the new one's aren't identical.

LOL no one is being greedy and no one is going broke.

 

The only reason you are unhappy is because we gave too many sales last year. Naturally, you guys got used to them and now think that anything below 50% off is not a good sale.

 

This will be fixed with time though, the only thing it takes is time. Consider this a visit to a rehab. A rehab for 50% off addicts. :D

 

Seriously though, sales are not everything. We'll be looking more into the side of doing some all-new gameplay experiences for events (new battle modes and stuff like that). Stay tuned :)

You did not get that vibe? I highlighted part of it for you. I hope you get it now.

 

You say there were no expectations. Did you read this thread? What is this? Do you need to be hit on the back of your head with a sledge hammer to get it? This whole thread of complaints is because Tanki did not meet the expectations of its customers. Now, you can say the customers have no right to have any expectations. A good vendor senses the expectations of their customers and sets it straight when it is wrong.

 

You say I can't ride on old expectations. Actually, I can. Most of us could. The proof is that they did.

 

When someone treats me with disrespect, I can deal in kind. They started it, so we are not to blame.

 

I hope this helps you understand where we come from regardless of whether you sympathize with us or not. When you are against the majority, you should ask yourself whether you are on the right side. If the majority is wrong, it has to be for a good reason.

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

Oh Semyon's message?

Yeah I feel like he was just trying to be friendly and casual with the Lol's and stuff. Just how I viewed it. :P

He's also trying to get across the message that sales can't be given out so carelessly as well. . 

That they already messed up big time last year for giving out so many sales. . .I think.

 

@Baby_Sam: I dunno man. :(

I found the "visit to rehab" part sort of humorous.

Edited September 11, 2015 by r_DidYouKnowThat0

[Baby_Sam 614]

wow you really are what your name says.. a total baby

semyon's response is perfectly respectful and you guys are acting like babies the first tankmans day was 25% want that again?

get a life

Can't you see how silly you are? If we are acting like babies, it is because we are. We should be treated accordingly, but it seems that you did not get what Semyon was saying to us. See my previous post.

 

When most of your community is babies, you should give them lollipops, not scold them like Semyon and you do.

 

Got it, or are you a baby like the rest of us but with a mental condition?

[Baby_Sam 614]

Oh Semyon's message?

Yeah I feel like he was just trying to be friendly and casual with the Lol's and stuff. Just how I viewed it. :P

He's also trying to get across the message that sales can't be given out so carelessly as well. . 

That they already messed up big time last year for giving out so many sales. . .I think.

 

@Baby_Sam: I dunno man. :(

I found the "visit to rehab" part sort of humorous.

I am not sure what happened last year, but, if it really caused them problems, why did not they come forward ahead of time, or as soon as they discovered that, and say hey blah blah happened last year, and because of that we have to do blah blah. We are sorry, but we are forced to do it this way blah blah?

 

You think we would not understand? They let us build dreams and then they did their stunt. That was how they disappointed mostly everybody.

 

There is another problem I see with Tanki. I see the V-Log, and I have no idea who is in charge. Is not there a manager or some kind of director or something? Why doesn't that person talk to us and share the vision, the concerns, etc. with us? Why is it in every V-Log a dozen people talk and we have no idea who is in charge or what is going on?

 

Why is it that to this day we don't know about the account transfer? Why did not they say what they are waiting for? Why are they leaving everyone in limbo?

 

I feel that they are careless about the community, and that part is what irritates me to no end. Show some freaking attention beyond throwing smileys here and there. Fix the stupid score cap issue. Do things right. Test stuff before you dump it on us. All this piles up.

[creeperskelly 1,281]

I did not get that vibe at all. He clearly explained the reasoning behind the discount reduction. If anyone has been rude its you. Every one of your posts is highly sarcastic and unforgiving.

 

You talk about Tanki not meeting expectations, but there literally were no expectations set yet. The sales change all the time. 2012's Tankmen's day was only 25% on garage items for 2 days. 2013's was only 50% off because they made us do contests and take screenshots and stuff to get there. That one could have easily been 30% off or 40%. 2014's was the only one where they gave us 50% off on Tankmen's Day "just cause".

 

They also never claimed that "Tankmen's Day will always be 50% off!". The prices were not given til they were announced. You can't just ride on old expectations and be pissed off when the new one's aren't identical.

Except that in the past year they have lied and removed things from the game which make the game less fun and create more imbalance. The score cap was the latest in this nonsense.

 

They gave 50% off because of Star Ladder and back in June yet give lower discounts on what is supposed to be an important military holiday in Russia? Seems a bit dishonorable to me.

[ramkk_the_crazy 3]

They also never claimed that "Tankmen's Day will always be 50% off!". The prices were not given til they were announced. You can't just ride on old expectations and be pissed off when the new one's aren't identical.

They apparently claimed that on their fb page few months back, when some guy asked them when we can expect 50% discounts. It´s no wonder the players are pissed and so it´s fair. 

[creeperskelly 1,281]

If they do say Yes to a transfer, then why would people stop spending?

They purchase crystals, and it will still be transferred. They're not losing anything.

 

The gameplay is still relatively the same too. Some even like the current graphics better, what they've been always used to.

So will they stop playing, even though Unity is supposedly "better?" In my opinion no, especially since Unity being "better" is also an opinion.

Get what I mean? Yeeaaah sorry I didn't really word this last part very well. :(

Um, they already said the economy will be different. If you buy crystals now it is highly unlikely you get a 1:1: exchange. So why take the risk considering the lies and disinformation of the past year? They simply cannot be trusted now.

 

Unity will be the same awful imbalance now but with prettier graphics. That's it! Nothing to get excited about.

 

It will be the same druggers, the same 10 versus 3 rounds, the same buggy brown screens of death and random self-destruct for no reason. The same laggy game play where you randomly drop flags for no reason, and, the same hackers who you cannot kill despite half of your team pounding them with DD.

[creeperskelly 1,281]

He's also trying to get across the message that sales can't be given out so carelessly as well. . 

That they already messed up big time last year for giving out so many sales. . .I think.

If sales are bad they should immediately stop the 75% discounts on drug kits. Right?

[canadarules 1,938]

Can't you see how silly you are? If we are acting like babies, it is because we are. We should be treated accordingly, but it seems that you did not get what Semyon was saying to us. See my previous post.

 

When most of your community is babies, you should give them lollipops, not scold them like Semyon and you do.

 

Got it, or are you a baby like the rest of us but with a mental condition?

what is this ww2 all over again?

oh lets appease everyone and start a war.. no shut up and stop whining

go read up on history sometime too you baby

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

@Creeperskelly:

Ooh true. The economy will be very different, eh? Although in the end it'll still be the same, slow, painful process of gaining crystals. Even harder than before with the nerfed Daily Missions and stuff, hmm?

 

Yeah I really do hope they do a better job balancing out things in Unity.

Ok so what I'm thinking is, is that they cannot make big changes to the current Flash tanki, because then they have no idea WHAT kind of results it will cause. HOWEVER, with Unity being a completely different product, they can do new things with it, right?

 

Then I hope they can do something about the current unbalance, where it's literally PAY to WIN.

Nerf the health pack, etc. etc.

 

And updates should be faster then since Devs will be freed to work on things other than Unity.

 

So maybe it'll truly be better? :P

 

And yeah good point. a -75% discount on a Supply kit, their biggest source of income. Dang, Tanki!

I have no response to that except to agree with you, unless a Dev could elaborate more on it or something. :P

Edited September 11, 2015 by r_DidYouKnowThat0

[canadarules 1,938]

@Creeperskelly:

Ooh true. The economy will be very different, eh? Although in the end it'll still be the same, slow, painful process of gaining crystals. Even harder than before with the nerfed Daily Missions and stuff, hmm?

 

Yeah I really do hope they do a better job balancing out things in Unity.

Ok so what I'm thinking is, is that they cannot make big changes to the current Flash tanki, because then they have no idea WHAT kind of results it will cause. HOWEVER, with Unity being a completely different product, they can d new things with it, right?

 

Then I hope they can do something about the current unbalance, where it's literally PAY to WIN.

Nerf the health pack, etc. etc.

 

And updates should be faster then since Devs will be freed to work on things other than Unity.

 

So maybe it'll truly be better? :P

 

And yeah good point. a -75% discount on a Supply kit, their biggest source of income. Dang, Tanki!

I have no response to that except to agree with you, unless a Dev could elaborate more on it or something. :P

hey no using eh.. you ain't Canadian

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

@Canadarules: How would you know? eh? :lol:

[canadarules 1,938]

@Canadarules: How would you know? eh? :lol:

eh don't start me on this

Edited September 11, 2015 by canadarules

[creeperskelly 1,281]

The most recent V-LOG stated two things of concern: a side-by-side version of Flash and Unity and, second, a different economy.

 

Read between the lines. Two versions of Tanki means two things: one, transfers are highly unlikely, and, two: currency in one won't be worth the same as currency in the other. Both suggest that things are stacked against us in terms of garage and crystal balance. If two versions are available it means you can't play one and have your garage/crystals in the other.

 

Get it now? :mellow:

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

@Creeperskelly: Nothing is confirmed yet though. :P

In the end you could be right, and transfers could be made not possible.

But oh whatever.

 

Best thing they could do is have some compensation for us, which could vary depending on our rank and garage value.

A one-time thing where we link our Flash account to our new Unity Tanki account? And then they'll be able to see what we had, our rank, and compensate us like that. . .?

 

But I'm probably over-thinking it by now. Ehh whatever.

[Phoenix.Rising 2,519]

I find it funny we argue among ourselves for scrap and then TO admin gets the last laugh to the bank. They must thought that we tankers are foolish enough to accept whatever they throw at us. :)

 

Which kind soul dares to post TO's balance sheet and P & L statements here? Then we can decide how much they make. Come clean pls.

[creeperskelly 1,281]

@Creeperskelly: Nothing is confirmed yet though. :P

In the end you could be right, and transfers could be made not possible.

It's not a question of whether it is possible or not, but, whether they are willing. If it is not "possible" is it because of true technical reasons, or, because they claim it is impossible but really choose to do it for economic reasons?

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

Oh yeah when I typed "made not possible," it meant that they refused to let players transfer.

[creeperskelly 1,281]

I see :)

[infamous 94]

Guys, this is very disappointing, seriously.

 

Please understand that we can't have 50% sales all the time. Actually, I think we are one of the few games who ever has 50% sales, most just don't do that.

 

Why? Because it affects the game's economy SO MUCH.

 

If Tanki's economy gets ruined, the whole game will be ruined. There won't be 50%, 40%, 25% or any sales. There won't be the game at all.

 

I know that the last year was full of sales, but it actually affected the game in a pretty negative way. Please understand, that the game needs to function steadily to keep living and growing, and giving you fun and enjoyment.

 

If we continued last year's policy, I don't know where Tanki would be now. Probably it wouldn't exist.

 

So yes, it's a 2-sided thing. You love sales, but big sales are dangerous. That's why we limited it to 40%, as a perfect balance between fun for players and balance for the game. Unfortunately, many of you guys didn't understand that.

 

What I ask you to do is to try to understand that it's a lot more complicated then it looks. It about constant balance. And 40% is better than no sale or 25% off.

 

I hope some of you are grateful for the celebrations. This would really give us a boost to keep working for you.

 

Cheers.

fire semyon for this response.. YAY!!!

[QueenSeraphina 407]

fire semyon for this response.. YAY!!!

lol I don't think so... We even have tankers coming to back him up like @canadarules & some Mods.

Edited September 11, 2015 by QueenSeraphina

[vampire743 53]

Guys I have understand that this sale is not bad, it is good. At least they gave us a sale.. Tanki I am sorry for disvoting. But please announce it more earlier so that the players have more time to collect crystals.

[Metal_Movin 5]

Wow...wait. Tanki  has started giving discounts for discounts? Yeah right. "The greatest day in tanki" is not getting the greatest stuff. We don't even get a good battle fund and 40% is what we get. I don't wanna waste more time on crystals ok? I want tanki to be an awesome action game-not something on economics. Well I think tanki is getting more boring by these silly stuff the developers do.