Shaft with a Laser?

[SunnyQueen 609]

Thanks to the laser you need more skill ,because else you could camp somewhere in a bush with Forester , and noone would ever find you. That takes no skill at all.

 

Agree

[caproz 61]

1)Sniper doesn't mean camper. 2) I think remove the old oscillation of shaft was a bad choice. I used it a lot until m2, and i didn't developed it more cause now it is a boring weapon. Without oscillation it is too much easy to use. Anyway this is just my idea but... Shaft is the most powerfoul weapon (in damage/hit) in the game right?

[KingKarthur 3]

Thanks to the laser you need more skill ,because else you could camp somewhere in a bush with Forester , and noone would ever find you. That takes no skill at all.

 

That's not entirely true.  One, either the Blue or Red or Green above your name can give you away.  Also, it takes skill to get to a secluded spot on the enemies side, whereas hiding on your on side should be very difficult to stop.

 

KingKarthur

 

#loversgonnalove trumps #hatersgonnahate

[PowerStrike1.1 270]

That's not entirely true.  One, either the Blue or Red or Green above your name can give you away.  Also, it takes skill to get to a secluded spot on the enemies side, whereas hiding on your on side should be very difficult to stop.

 

KingKarthur

 

#loversgonnalove trumps #hatersgonnahate

Do you think I can spot your name across Serphov above a tank wearing Forest and sniping at me with out laser? Do you even know the limited range of visibility of username? Jeez.

[MandolinMarc 874]

I personally find the addition of a laser made shaft a much more interesting gun. Before, you would just set up camp and wait for someone to come into your field of view. Now, you have to be more clever.

[KingKarthur 3]

Do you think I can spot your name across Serphov above a tank wearing Forest and sniping at me with out laser? Do you even know the limited range of visibility of username? Jeez.

 

I personally find the addition of a laser made shaft a much more interesting gun. Before, you would just set up camp and wait for someone to come into your field of view. Now, you have to be more clever.

Both of the above are good points.  But wasn't part of the thrill trying to discover the enemy Shaft's?  The laser may, and that's a conditional may, have added some logistical strategy abilities, mainly in fear tactic, but wasn't it virtually the same with the laser, only with a greater fear level?

 

KingKarthur

 

#loversgonnalove trumps #hatersgonnahate

Edited September 14, 2015 by KingKarthur

[PowerStrike1.1 270]

Both of the above are good points.  But wasn't part of the thrill trying to discover the enemy Shaft's?  The laser may, and that's a conditional may, have added some logistical strategy abilities, mainly in fear tactic, but wasn't it virtually the same with the laser, only with a greater fear level?

 

KingKarthur

Discovering the enemy shafts just made it more exhausting along with trying to avoid pot shots.

[KingKarthur 3]

Discovering the enemy shafts just made it more exhausting along with trying to avoid pot shots.

Are you saying you enjoy the laser because it makes life easier on you?

 

KingKarthur

 

#loversgonnalove trumps #hatersgonnahate

[PowerStrike1.1 270]

Are you saying you enjoy the laser because it makes life easier on you?

 

KingKarthur

 

#loversgonnalove trumps #hatersgonnahate

Even with the laser it's still annoying. Your hastags are also annoying too.

[toanuparu_GT 7]

Um you are so noob, shaft is great after the update and is still a stealthy gun. If u are a shaft pro you would easily find out that u can aim at a tree or wall waiting for an enemy as the mod showed. Tanki will not remove this update and your tries are worthless I and many others like this update. Sorry but it's here to stay.

[Benefactor 6,888]

Both of the above are good points.  But wasn't part of the thrill trying to discover the enemy Shaft's?  The laser may, and that's a conditional may, have added some logistical strategy abilities, mainly in fear tactic, but wasn't it virtually the same with the laser, only with a greater fear level?

 

KingKarthur

 

#loversgonnalove trumps #hatersgonnahate

Not exactly. Because with the laser you know where the punch is coming from.

[NewbieCake 3,067]

To be honest, I think Shaft is the 3rd hardest turret to master. 1st obviously being Railgun ans 2nd being Rico. But anyways, the laser isn't going to get removed, sadly. TO devs stated that the players were too irritated about getting killed from out of nowhere.

[KingKarthur 3]

Um you are so noob, shaft is great after the update and is still a stealthy gun. If u are a shaft pro you would easily find out that u can aim at a tree or wall waiting for an enemy as the mod showed. Tanki will not remove this update and your tries are worthless I and many others like this update. Sorry but it's here to stay.

Yes, aim at a tree.  You think an enemy can't see around a tree???  I think the enemy looks a little ahead of them while driving.

 

 

To be honest, I think Shaft is the 3rd hardest turret to master. 1st obviously being Railgun ans 2nd being Rico. But anyways, the laser isn't going to get removed, sadly. TO devs stated that the players were too irritated about getting killed from out of nowhere.

 

Yes, it is sad that TO devs gave into irritated tanks.  Tankers that whine are noobs!

 

#hashtagrocks

[SunnyQueen 609]

Yes, aim at a tree.  You think an enemy can't see around a tree???  I think the enemy looks a little ahead of them while driving.

 

 

U dont know how to play shaft... Aim at tree, building, whatever... something near you and watch.

 

 

But still i think - shaft is great where is not excepted, u dont need to hide - just shooting in people with 0% shaft defense

 

 

If u want, it is possible even with capturing point in polygon, mostly from the middle

 

[PowerStrike1.1 270]

Yes, aim at a tree.  You think an enemy can't see around a tree???  I think the enemy looks a little ahead of them while driving.

 

 

 

Yes, it is sad that TO devs gave into irritated tanks.  Tankers that whine are noobs!

 

#hashtagrocks

I really don't want to hear another hashtag, nor a guy complaining about the Shaft laser saying, "Tankers that whine are nooba!" Guess what? You're a noob proven by your point. You're complaining about Shaft's laser. This isn't a direct insult, it's a point proven by you which is ironic. Can anyone adapt to using Shaft now? Raise your hand.

[drazeruzumaki 5,021]

shaft should have its disadvantages and this laser is one of them

[creeperskelly 1,281]

Everyone seems to forget that when they added the laser they also removed shake. To me that more than offsets the silly looking search beams moving everywhere.

[KingKarthur 3]

I really don't want to hear another hashtag, nor a guy complaining about the Shaft laser saying, "Tankers that whine are nooba!" Guess what? You're a noob proven by your point. You're complaining about Shaft's laser. This isn't a direct insult, it's a point proven by you which is ironic. Can anyone adapt to using Shaft now? Raise your hand.

 

Actually, point taken.  I should've worded myself differently.  I more wanted a debate over the Shaft laser, though I definetely defend the no-laser Shaft.  I am interested in what I hear, and will definitely try out some of the tips.  Otherwise, I'd be a hypocrite. (However, M0 shaft isn't that good at my rank) ;)

 

 

Everyone seems to forget that when they added the laser they also removed shake. To me that more than offsets the silly looking search beams moving everywhere.

 

I personally liked the shake! :)

 

@PowerStrike

 

Please forgive the hashtag.  It's my trademark.  P.S.  Do you even read them?  

 

I will restrain myself on this one.

[PowerStrike1.1 270]

Actually, point taken.  I should've worded myself differently.  I more wanted a debate over the Shaft laser, though I definetely defend the no-laser Shaft.  I am interested in what I hear, and will definitely try out some of the tips.  Otherwise, I'd be a hypocrite. (However, M0 shaft isn't that good at my rank) ;)

 

 

 

I personally liked the shake! :)

 

@PowerStrike

 

Please forgive the hashtag.  It's my trademark.  P.S.  Do you even read them?  

 

I will restrain myself on this one.

Save the hashtags for when they're more appropriate. Best to describe an event.

[KingKarthur 3]

I'm new at hashtag.

 

#noobhashtager

 

How was that? ;)

[toanuparu_GT 7]

Yes, aim at a tree.  You think an enemy can't see around a tree???  I think the enemy looks a little ahead of them while driving.

 

 

 

Yes, it is sad that TO devs gave into irritated tanks.  Tankers that whine are noobs!

 

#hashtagrocks

Yeah, they might be able to see around a tree but they most likely aren't going to be looking at trees to find a shaft. At my rank m1 shaft is almost useless, but still affective when used properly. It by would like to learn how to be a pro shafter go to justin_the_prosurfer I hate him but have to admit shaft is his best weapon. Also your whining right now... so your noob...

Edited September 15, 2015 by toanuparu_GT

[KingKarthur 3]

Yeah, they might be able to see around a tree but they most likely aren't going to be looking at trees to find a shaft. At my rank m1 shaft is almost useless, but still affective when used properly. It by would like to learn how to be a pro shafter go to justin_the_prosurfer I hate him but have to admit shaft is his best weapon. Also your whining right now... so your noob...

 

OK, I obviously misworded myself :)

 

Anyhow, Noob was probably unnecessary, though my original intent was that whining about a weapon being TOO good is what gets me.  I mean, stating a weapon has become obsolete is one thing, but wanted to get rid of something that is better than you is another.

 

#re-phrase

[toanuparu_GT 7]

OK, I obviously misworded myself :)

 

Anyhow, Noob was probably unnecessary, though my original intent was that whining about a weapon being TOO good is what gets me.  I mean, stating a weapon has become obsolete is one thing, but wanted to get rid of something that is better than you is another.

 

#re-phrase

Not really, weapons can be too good. And tanki has to be a balanced game, so people complaining about a wepon or a game aspect is good because it brings the developers attention to the problem so they can fix it and make to game more enjoy able. 

[agninvool 0]

I guess , Shaft with laser is being fair to the game. I used to get annoyed in Serpuhov when my tank gets hit from no where and by the time the team realize it's position, it would have got several kills. If it is sitting at the far end of the map, only another shaft could get it. 

 

If you feel that Rail is easy with auto aim, then you haven't used it at all. Rail's auto aim angle less than even thunder. It does not do horizontal auto aim. Auto aim wont work if you are shooting in anticipation of some one coming out from hiding spot. Its laser trail is almost  same as Shaft's laser. 

 

There are several pro Shaft users who can really do peek-out attack tactics really well. They do it every 3 secs. There are shafts who go for flags as well. And for every one who says Shaft is getting nerfed every time, it's arcade shots got an increase last time. 

 

Slow reload ? what are the reload times for Shaft and Rail ?

[SunnyQueen 609]

 

Slow reload ? what are the reload times for Shaft and Rail ?

 

Rail m0/m1/m2/m3/m3+

7.538 6859 6.55 6.056 5.5

 

Hard to say with shaft, between arcade shots:

 

m0/m1/m2/m3/m3+

3.882 3.735 3.441 3.324 3

 

So almost 2 arcade shots = 1 rail shot, on m3+ is like 154 (76x2) damage vs 199 dmage, but we cant forget shaft got sniping mode, on m3+ is 280 max damage per shot

Edited September 16, 2015 by SunnyQueen