Episode 63 of the V-LOG is here

[blackseac 183]

Player blackseac has been banned for a day. Reason: Violation of forum rules. Spam. Rules

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

The Game was created for everyone to enjoy - there are players that pay to obtain better equipments faster and Others who prefer to earn their crystals in the Game (there are several different ways to do so).

Premium accounts will not be mandatory and those users willing to spend the moneys they own have the right to do so and receive something more in Exchange.

I Always played with my friend with Veteran paint and we lost the 80% of the battles for several reasons, therefore I am convinced that the protection will not change anything, the destiny of the battle changes depending on the players playing it and on their will to win it.

Yeah...but you very conveniently forget to mention the fact that these Premium paint will be available at low ranks.

 

And I can almost assure that Sergeants and other low ranks will win 80% of the battles. Not for several reasons, but

because they own this OP Premium Paint.

 

But what do you care, you already ended all discussion with: "Premium accounts will not be mandatory and those

users willing to spend the moneys they own have the right to do so and receive something more in Exchange."

Edited October 11, 2015 by Lord-of-the-Snipers

[Yele 3,982]

I doubt that the new players immediately buy a premium account :)

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

This is an hard period for everyone, for those on "Tanki Online side" and for those "against the Updates", but we need to cooperate to find a middle line of agreement, in my opinion. Making videos like the ones mentioned above simply ruins the purpose of discussing positively and suggesting things :D

But I thought we were told that "suggesting things" is pointless. Hazel said this in the I&S section and has since been backed up by a mod. You see how this sounds right?  Now we are asked for our opinions but are you truly asking or are you just pretending to ask us and don't really care. I don't know anymore.  I think TO will do what TO wants to do and any input from us is usually met with ridicule and condescension. That's my experience anyway.

 

Supporting evidence:

"Most suggestions around here simply can not be applied to the future game due to difference in the mechanics. Which makes this entire forum section a bit pointless at the moment, from my personal point of view"

 

"You can still post your ideas here and discuss them, but keep in mind that no matter how good or simple your idea is, it may only be added to the game in a few years or so. If an idea from this section does end up in the game in a few months or even weeks after it was posted, then it simply means that the player guessed what the developers were planning, and suggested something that would have been added anyway."

 

Tanki is in the state its in now because of their failure to properly address the issue of mults and sabotage. It also started to slide when it introduced vulcan and hammer, without adequately ensuring the previous paint protection balance was preserved. There are 11 ways to die now but our some of our top paints like clay might as well be holiday paint against 8 turrets.

 

TO is spiraling out of control and is demanding more money from us with no guarantees on our investments. In short, what are we taking with us to Unity? There is no point in buying into a dying game if we have to start again is there.

 

You ask for co-operation then start the ball rolling. Tell us what we can take with us and give us some kind of guarantee because this is the only way I can see of saving this project.

[Elliminated 23]

@ Yele, a doubt answer, maybe, such answers with uncertainity? Please keep it to yourself, until you are 100% sure. It is getting annoying, especially from moderators and admins.

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

I doubt that the new players immediately buy a premium account :)

Well, I don 't. :) 

[Brubook 1,161]

I doubt that the new players immediately buy a premium account :)

Sorry yele, even if I know this is a bad moment for Tanki and especially for all of you mods (which I think are just marginally or not at all responsible for this "update") ... but what you said here is quite irrelevant!

 

I cannot put on the shop shelf a machine gun and justify it saying "well, but probably not everyone will buy it immediately"!

[viduranga-x 305]

guys guys..please don't post unnecessary things...premium accounts system is awesome. we can buy  it and knock-off free players..we can win easy,rank up fast,get free crystals,get new OP paints and dont want to use Z X C keys....look , w.o.t have premium acc system too..but its just junk game.creepy sounds.ugly graphics.no fun..full with hackers,mults,lags less online players..but tankionline not like that..its awesome cool game full with players,nice grapics and sounds..so, good things need payments...thats why we must accept all things devs bring to us....and we have good forum staff.they so kind and brave.not delete users they hate.working for forum without get any payment.. i think you all understood what i meant.

 

Edited October 11, 2015 by viduranga-x
Please be nice to each other!

[EVISITORS 318]

Just to remind you one thing all dear players. Most of time tanki has acted on feedback we gave. 

Recent examples where down vote happened & update is in game & players liking those e.g.  Smart-cooldowns, camera speed, Vulcun impact force etc.

I am sure developers will do tweak with this update too so that we can have balanced stage.

This is just an initial stage for launch of update.  

[EVISITORS 318]

I know this is a difficult moment for you all and I know you are marginally or not at all responsible for this (as I said already), but you are the interface we talk with.

 

So, what about drugs problem? See here: http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=246957&hl=

 

Also, are you sure of what you say? After reading this, I don't think so! See here: http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=289129&page=32&do=findComment&comment=5064834

Lets stay on the topic. We are talking here mainly on PREMIUM ACCOUNTS only. 

[T.O.T.A.L.W.A.R 581]

Lets stay on the topic. We are talking here mainly on PREMIUM ACCOUNTS only. 

You are the one who deviated from the topic and started to mention off topic examples to proof your point,

So why do you u find it strange when people start replying to ur off topic examples?!

[DarkOperative 5,580]

This topic is getting a bit too off-topic now. Even after two warnings have been given.

 

If you're here to discuss premium accounts(or anything involving the content in this week's V-LOG) and wish to contribute to it before it is launched by providing your feedback, you are welcome to do so.

 

However, if you're here to discuss the helpers' team's actions, this is not the right place to do so. For that you can simply PM the moderator you wish to address and discuss things with him/her personally. If you wish to file a complaint, follow the same procedure and instead of adding the moderator, add the administrator. That's how it works and that's how it has been for a very long time.

 

All off-topic bickering or invalid posts will be removed.

 

Thanks!

[EVISITORS 318]

Come On Developers!! Think over the "Premium Accounts" once again.Make them Fair so no one is OP and the game remains Balance. You have our feedback. :(

[Mr.Cashier 1,622]

 

 

Come On Developers!! Think over the "Premium Accounts" once again.Make them Fair so no one is OP and the game remains Balance. You have our feedback. :(

Thank you :)

[Brubook 1,161]

Lets stay on the topic. We are talking here mainly on PREMIUM ACCOUNTS only. 

EVISITORS you said "Most of time tanki has acted on feedback we gave" and you talked about balance. Deleting my post will not change anything.

 

On the "customer care" I am very offended by you (read Tanki mods in general), so if you say that Tanki read and act on feedbacks you are lying, and the proof of what I say is the link I sent you (here: http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=289129&page=32&do=findComment&comment=5064834)

 

I didn't break any rule and I referred to published comments (readable on the referenced posts). You lie to me saying that and I would just say nothing? Discussion (or customer care) does not work that way!

 

I know that those posts are quite "itchy" for you all, but sorry, that is not my problem! Beside, I am also pretty offended by what has been said on us ... players ... customers!

 

And in my opinion, politeness and respect are NEVER off topic!

[I.SuperHeroTheBest.I 9]

Guys, please. I don't want to pick up my admin-size-ban-hammer and clear this mess :(

 

I see why everybody are upset but can we sit for a moment and cool down?

nah we wont cool down cause this game is becoming hopless,annoying,more lags, and  other stupids  things,,, not any developers cares cause they r getting money from us so yeah i m leaving bye  ...........................(

(not only me  every one should  leave)

[I.SuperHeroTheBest.I 9]

This topic is getting a bit too off-topic now. Even after two warnings have been given.

 

If you're here to discuss premium accounts(or anything involving the content in this week's V-LOG) and wish to contribute to it before it is launched by providing your feedback, you are welcome to do so.

 

However, if you're here to discuss the helpers' team's actions, this is not the right place to do so. For that you can simply PM the moderator you wish to address and discuss things with him/her personally. If you wish to file a complaint, follow the same procedure and instead of adding the moderator, add the administrator. That's how it works and that's how it has been for a very long time.

 

All off-topic bickering or invalid posts will be removed.

 

Thanks!

read the posts  and  think before u post cause we r  discussing about vlog  so be  quiet

[Brubook 1,161]

This topic is getting a bit too off-topic now. Even after two warnings have been given.

 

If you're here to discuss premium accounts(or anything involving the content in this week's V-LOG) and wish to contribute to it before it is launched by providing your feedback, you are welcome to do so.

 

However, if you're here to discuss the helpers' team's actions, this is not the right place to do so. For that you can simply PM the moderator you wish to address and discuss things with him/her personally. If you wish to file a complaint, follow the same procedure and instead of adding the moderator, add the administrator. That's how it works and that's how it has been for a very long time.

 

All off-topic bickering or invalid posts will be removed.

 

Thanks!

DarkOperative, you may even be right in terms of regulations ... but did you realize that we have been offended and insulted? Did you realize that?

 

Do you really espect no reaction to that? Where do you think comments and discussion on offences are made? After the offences themselves, it is obvious!

 

Do you think that a report on mods would work? Many times they do not work even for normal players! In a fair world 2 of your colleagues should be banned ... and you already read why! But instead of taking action, you delete my post ... clear enough!

 

This is not a democratic discussion based behaviour ... not talking about what should actually be a "customer care" (what you all are supposed to be)

[I.SuperHeroTheBest.I 9]

Then what about a simple 15% protection? I am sure of the following facts:

• Users got made due to the 20% protection since they feel it as overpowered (but I agree that it is not, it is simply good to have since you don't have to switch paints - I own Helper paint with 18% protection and it is not so strong, but still it comes in handy :))
• Users from ESports got mad due to the 20% protection since it actually skip over Acid protection and is the same of Bronze paint - both this paints must be achieved with hard work and time and not by spending some moneys one random day

A solution to the above mentioned points could be the following:

• 18% protection, same as Helper paint - Helpers support the project with hours of work while premium users support the project by buying some extras features and crystas
• 15% protection, lower then all special paints, but still valuable enough to be an exclusive paint for those wanting it

 

 

These are my two cents I had to post since when the V-LOG was out.

what about they removed this  all  updates after tankers day. woudn't it be GREAT

[Special_HD 57]

i dont like this update. i actually hate it.

[Rob 141]

OK nice

Edited October 11, 2015 by Rob

[freeze.11 100]

Once again,Tanki you promoted buyers,always,you have done this.What do you think?You can make us fool..You can't.First,you closed Starladder then this premium accounts..Generalissimos in Tanki spent years to rech there ranks and now a noob can get to that rank by paying you money.Proficient type of business,huh?Other games are better than this atleast they don't die on money like this.Special Paint Acid which is achieved by getting in Top 8 clan gives 18% and your premium paint gives 20% I mean,Seriously?You are going to get bankrup if this update comes up,all high ranked players will leave tanki.I have already done it.

 

This is not how you do business,it requires skill,which is rare.Game's ranks are assigned as of army's and here ranks are given in money in army it is not like this.This V-Log made me go rofl.I was pinching myself as if it was happening in real or not.

[Gulp 210]

As i have said before tanki wants us to finish game as soon as possible and to move to unity with nothing. They want to milk all money from current players and delete this game afterwards.

[freeze.11 100]

Tanki removed Down-vote system because of this V-Log post because it was going to break record?

[Rohrmeister 1,535]

Premium paint proposal:
start with 7% on all weapons; increase to 11%, end up with 15%
Will it be possible to MU this paint? I hope not tooo much..

 

Premium Paint with 0% = massive drawback (won't get equipped) (edit: ok, maybe on hornets in XP/BP..)

Some stated XT are just decoration.. so a premium paint may have 0% protection. Guys.. this won't work. While using XT equipment makes no "disadvantage", using a paint with 0% protetcion does. Teammates will "recommend (friendly or less friendly)" that you should put on a paint, to not endanger their win. If the paint has no pretection it will not be equipped.

 
By the way I have a proposal about a way how to split paints and protections.. I will maybe write this on Monday evening.

 

 

Score Multiplyer Pass, 50% XP bonus

 

 

How would you suggest SMP to work with Premium? I need a big reply on this one.

I would offer the normal 100% SMP to premium users as well.. but I would tag them with a warning, that is only displayed if a premium users want to purchase it. Warning could read like:

100% Score Multiplyer Pass is not recommended for premium users!

This results in receiving +150% experiance points, and so you will rank 2,5times faster. Be aware that with higher ranks you need stronger weapons and hulls. If you rank too fast you have too less time to earn crystals for stronger weapons and too less time to build up your skills.
As we try to play fair we tell you this in advance - so now feel free to make your choice!

happy tanking!

 

Some guys who want to raise their alternative account fast, can save their time by paying you for premium.. while the beginners are warned. Better warn them and keep those customers that are obviously willing to spend money on the game; instead to risk to loose them as they quit by frustration (face too strong too skilled opponents).

 
 
 

Would it will be better if Premium will give 100% exp boost rather than 50%?

I would never buy that if I am forced to have 100% SMP and only 50% crystal boost.
The "overallCrystalsEarned - to - reachedRank" ratio" is very important factor to keep players away from frustration and give them a chance to stand their ground on the battlefield.

 

 

Edited October 11, 2015 by Rohrmeister