Episode 63 of the V-LOG is here

[DonCarnage 1,270]

If most players consider this update negative, the only positive thing you can get out of the discussion is that you should record the uniform players sentiment ... like a kind of a poll.

 

So, positive as you say MUST mean polite and fair discussion, but not necessarily positive comments like "wow, amazing update", you see?

 

Here you also have encouraging ... you are very encouraged to abort this update, IMO!

Well, for negative opinion to make a difference it must offer some reasoning -- otherwise it's just meaningless. While a positive reaction, or agreement, can be useful in and of itself.

 

Or in other words, if you have done/written something, a thumbs up/like/upvote shows that someone likes what you have done and is encouraging.

But a downvote would just show that someone for some reason dislikes what you have done/written, and either you just ignore it or is discouraged. If someone actually explains why they don't like something then you have a chance to do something better in the future, which is useful.

[Supernatural 2,053]

Guys Guys!

Its time for us to Calm Down and wait for the Response from Developers on Our feedback.We should be patient and let's wait.

As it is said "Patience is bitter but its fruit is sweet"

I am sure and I believe Developers dont wants to see their Tankers Angry.They will surely Balance the Gap between Buyers and Non-Buyers.You will see in the coming days, They will inform us about the changes.And i am telling you that in the Coming V-Log,all the Objections will be cleared and solved.All we have to do is To wait.Control your anger and be patient or you will receive bans.

I hope you guys understand what I'm tryin to say ;)

Are you really this naive or you get money for that? What would happen if I posted Arabiannobles video here? You all here would see we are not free to discuss things. We can say what tanki lets us to do so.

[Cute_re 582]

It will be buy-only, sorry.

buy not crystal   :o

As usual, russian they have 50% cheaper prices  <_<

Edited October 11, 2015 by r_o92_ren

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

buy  :o

As usual, russian they have 50% cheaper prices  <_<

Oh yeah I forgot about the fact the russains get to buy crystals at half the price europe and north america pay.  I thought they where going to fix that. Another empty promise.

Edited October 11, 2015 by Canadian_Eh

[Supernatural 2,053]

I believe 100% SMP are going to be removed. 150% exp boost sounds scary for the game.

Like this whole premium stuff wasn't scary enough. Now buyers will have more crystals and they will buy even more kits and drugs, they will be able to spend their money faster due to more XP, WOs will have better paints than us gissimos who buy those that cost 300k crystals. Congrats! ALso, you said you have enough money. Then why do you make this game only good for buyers? You want to make us leave this behind to play Unity and spend money there?

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

Okay, I've got to state my opinions on this one.

 

I've played tons of MMORPGs before, and watched them rise and fall. Usually they rise because of the great community established, and this is a huge factor. The great part about communities is that it is a self-sustaining cycle, friends bring more friends into the game, and some of those friends spend money on the game. That's how income is generated.

 

Now MMOs usually fall because the community breaks apart, and that the gap between buyers vs non-buyers become too huge. Non-buyers constitute normally about 70-80% of ANY MMO game, regardless of the nature (except pay to play games). When the gap gets too big, they leave and join other MMOs. It's as simple as that. What do you think happens to the remaining 20% of the players, who now need to spend 5x the time to find a match?

 

That's not to say that advantages must be removed from buyers. I totally understand that every game needs revenue to sustain itself and pay the employees, maintain servers and technical costs etc. This can actually be done in different ways. There are highly successful games like DoTA that net in millions of revenue every month, yet upholds its community of players. Remember, the larger the player pool, the more attractive the game, and definitely new buyers will join.

 

Now instead of a OP paint that gives 20% protection to ALL turrets (this will definitely cause many players to leave I'm very certain), there are many features that can be implemented into the game. Here are some examples:

 

- Premium player statistics only available for buyers (including clearing of K/D data etc and starting all over again at 0)

- Customizable hulls, turrets and paints (not too far from the original so we still know what it protects against)

- Customizable paints for entire clans (clan leader needs to pay per month to keep the clan)

- Premium accounts only match, with drugging cooldown reduced to 10 seconds

 

I know it's simple to just enter "20" and a few other strings into some Python code and watch the premium buyers start coming in, because I've taken computer programming before. But please think of the consequences that could (and in this case definitely would) follow. I can start naming once-successful MMOs right out that were destroyed because of greed. Now if you say that Tanki HQ has fallen on hard times and need the revenue that badly I would understand, but I don't think any of us believe that's the case for now. Many cosmetic skins etc can still greatly appeal. Firebirds can start shooting black flames etc. I don't know - use your creativity.

 

And I believe it's very important to use player polls or surveys before doing updates. It's not just about updating anything you believe is good. Any online game is like a business - players are customers, and they should have the right to choose (to some extent, minimally). And businesses do not discriminate against large or small customers, even non-buyers have a profound effect on all MMOs.

 

I might sound arrogant and frustrated, but all in all I'm actually just very disappointed. Tanki has all along been a great game and was one that I was looking for and believe to have finally "found" it. There is still time before updates start rolling in.

 

This is not just a game that 7-year-olds play. There are many players that actually figure out what the developers are thinking (e.g. removal of dislike button that foreshadows this). Already many of the community members are expressing much disappointment in this update. Please take the time to read the comments and listen to the players.

I wanted other to see this again. Some of you may have missed it. Not sure who this is but he/she couldn't have explained it better.

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

 

WOW that didn't last long. I didn't even get to see it.

Edited October 11, 2015 by Maf

[W.R.E.C.K.E.D 27]

WOW that didn't last long. I didn't even get to see it.

I know, right ?

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

So was it changed? Premium tanks will receive 150% crystals, but have normal XP gain rate?

Man that's OP as hell.

[Meowmix56 174]

Taxes are a good analogy.  Taxes are necessary for the government to perform essential services.  Up to a certain level you can increase government revenue by increasing the tax rate.  Past that level any increase will reduce total revenue because of the stifling effect on the economy.  This is where tanki is right now with its treatment of buyers.

[Maf 32,300]

I know, right ?

Yep

[Canadian_Eh 1,354]

I know, right ?

I'm not sure what you said but so far it appears they are afriad to hear the truth.  Do you know the saying " You want the truth, You can't handle the truth" ?  Watch it up to 19 seconds. 

 

 

Actually, we could be either one of those characters. We want answers and they won't tell us the truth. But they don't want to hear the truth from our point of view either. 

Edited October 11, 2015 by Canadian_Eh

[Maf 32,300]

That's it, Tanki ! You started a war with ALL of us players. You closed my topic - Wow, just wow. Now you'll be sorry about this. Just you wait.

2.3. Actions that will lead to (at the Administration’s discretion) a temporary limitation of access to Game’s Chats and Forum for up to 6 months (ban):

2.3.1. Discrimination towards inexperienced players (newbies): misinformation, intimidation, mockery;

[PuncherTank 37]

So many complaints about a 20% protection when in reality that won't be the killer of the experience for free players. 20% protection from all turrets is NOT overpowered. Actually, many of those with only 20% protection will be suffering when playing against fully MU'ed long range weapons on large maps and short range weapons on small maps. I can blow the hell out of that 20% with an M4 shaft! Having a regular paint with high protection (40-50%) against certain weapons may be much better in many situations. Most of the times you'll only need good protection against the few strong players on the enemy team to win the match.

The real experience killer for free players is plain and clear; the OP supplies. It's the 100% extra protection, 100% extra power and 100% extra health points that make gameplay unbalanced and frustrating for free players. And don't use the lame, flawed argument that free players can also use supplies!

The game may have millions of "registered" players, but the fact that the number of "active" players hasn't significantly grown in the past 5 years proves that there's something fundamentally wrong with this game that's pushing many players to leave. Anyone with sound logic would know what that is.

Just stick with your power-selling model TO, and keep your "current auditory" happy, regardless!

If the only thing new the Unity game will offer is improved graphics and sounds, well other tank games have way better graphics and realistic features, so it'll basically just be the same old drug mania. But many of the "current auditory" will like it, so the hell with everyone else and all potential players out there!

 

If TO really wanted to change this there can be ways to make a controlled and gradual transition, but I don't think they really have that will. This game has a lot of potential, unfortunately, it's been held back by **** management (fill out the blank with the word you think appropriate).

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

It 's already in the Tanki Online Wiki: http://en.tankiwiki.com/Premium_Accounts

 

Premium Accounts

This upcoming update is aimed mainly at those who want to rank up and get access to new equipment faster or ar simply looking to get something new from Tanki, wheter its unique content or the ability to stand out.
 

With a Premium account, these Tankers will be getting a whole list of advantages:

• 50% more experience points
• 50% more crystals in every battle
• Special and unique Paint with 20% protection against all turrets and mines during all the time in which the Premium Account will be active
• Ability to buy Product kits containing XT Hulls and XT Turrets
• Special rank icon with ability to turn it ON / OFF
• PRO Battles Pass

 

Premium Accounts will be purchased in the Game's payments section, just like crystals, but on a different screen. There will be two options available: a subscription for one month or for three months.

Premium Accounts days will also be awarded as a bonus for purchasing crystals packs.

[RustyNail 1,538]

Eeh, I believe I added a comment that somehow I can't find it anymore... Has anyone seen it?

It contained this picture

 

 

and some comments.. :rolleyes:

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

@RustyNail: I remember seeing that post somewhere. . .I was searching your post history as well. Can't find it anymore.

Maybe they deleted it or something lol. :P

[HUGHIY 568]

Let me just cross over, snoop around RU views...

[DarkShadow916 304]

Player DarkShadow916 has been banned for a day. Reason: Insults, profanity (Forum).

[Yisroel.R 85]

Hello there dear mod, I, Rabin, clearly do not see what I did wrong. I posted a video of Sami talking about the update... It's called "an opinion", if we cannot share our opinion on things, then what kind of game is this? Tell me now, what is this? Can we only share nice stuff? Do we have to agree with Tanki? NO, we don't. So go ahead, ban me.
I want to become a mod for a bunch of reasons, but the main reason is so I can treat players with respect, because I know what it feels like to be treated like dirt by mods.

So yes, I hate Tanki, I hate most mods, but I still want to become one anyway, so I can act like a true one.
Mods should be able to disagree with Tanki. They don't have to love Tanki to be a mod.

I dislike the upcoming update, I can say I dislike it. I didn't swear, I didn't "ruin" the games reputation anymore than anyone else here.

 

Please mods, understand us, the people you once were.

Thank you.

[W.R.E.C.K.E.D 27]

Player W.R.E.C.K.E.D has been banned for a week. Reason: Insults, profanity (Forum).

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

Yeah I definitely agree with what that Sami guy said.

Lumberjack paint, provides 30% protection against 3 turrets and 10% from Vulcan, and then some guy with Premium paint has 20% from EVERY SINGLE TURRET. PLUS MINES. Yeah, lol. Maybe 20% protection doesn't matter on a Wasp getting shot by a Vulcan, but when you've got an M4 Dictator or Viking or Mammoth or Titan, with double armor plus health kit plus mine protection, good luck non-Premium. You're gonna lose more, and losing team barely gets any crystals while the premium buyers are going to win all the time with the +50% boost in crystal income at the same time.

[r_Vendetta2 682]

And they keep removing our posts, can't wait for this post to get removed

[Yisroel.R 85]

And they keep removing our posts, can't wait for this post to get removed

Meh, you're gonna buy premium account anyways...

[r_Vendetta2 682]

Meh, you're gonna buy premium account anyways...

No, i won't buy it