Episode 63 of the V-LOG is here

[Rayyan 3,415]

this is like a war :P

Non-Buyers Vs Staff & Mods 

 

go non buyers :P

 

#NoPremiumAccounts 

#NoPremiumAccounts 

[LastKingss24 28]

Well what a great v-log ☺

[Bydo 20,122]

Guys it's not about unity, it's all about premium. Imagine if you are a kid (non buyer) you parent doesn't allow you to spend money on games and you see a premium tank coming with xt viking thunder pwning you off. Guys why not just drop this discussion and enjoy last minutes of free to play tanki! :)

look i know the topic has been about premium i have post my opinions long time ago about it and i feel for all cause some days i`m in same boat with out crystals and low on cash so i know..and for the lower players just moving up and others having premium and not letting lower ranks to cash in on the kills i get it all around i have 5 accounts...

 

by the way i see this also is a way for tanki to get us to collect as much crystals we can before unity comes in cause it really do`s look like it will be closing tanki regardless what has been said in the past ..there`s still too many unanswered questions from players and untill we get closer we will never know

[r_DidYouKnowThat0 1,662]

How does the RU community feel about it? Anybody know? :P

[Rayyan 3,415]

How does the RU community feel about it? Anybody know? :P

I am surfing on ru community...

[Rayyan 3,415]

Всем привет))) сегодня выходные провела с пользой))) в реале, даже ЕЗ не прошла))) 

 

P.S. Случайно наткнулась на последний летсплейчик от Проказника))) он играет 15-ти минутку и рассказывает про последний ВБ))) там столько всего лестного можно услышать про игру и разрабов))) просто жуть 18+ однозначно))) 

Мне вот интересно услышать мнение Максима по этому поводу))) их знаменитые и хваленые рекламщики ТО на ютубе))) не очень то рекламируют премиум танки))) И если я куплю премиум танчик, то по их мнению стану называться(очень уж нелестным словом))) 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 Hello ) ) ) today held a weekend with benefit ) ) ) in the real world , even EZ did not pass ))): o P.S. Stumbled on the last letspleychik by pranksters ) ) ) he is playing 15- minute and tells the story of the last WB) ) ) there is so much flattering can be heard about the game , and developers ) ) ) just horror uniquely 18+ ))): ph34r: I am now interested to hear the opinion of Maxim on this subject ) ) ) their famous and vaunted advertisers TO on YouTube ) ) ) is not very advertised premium tanks ))) And if I buy premium Tanchiki , then they think I will be called ( very much unflattering words ))): D

Edited October 12, 2015 by Quasar

[personia 4,036]

Recharged ray is right, they said may, not will. Also, They have only brought out about 8 vlogs out with stuff on unity on it, not 20...

 

Personally, I think unity is gonna crash, and flash will be played by all the old players, while people won't get into unity.

[Bydo 20,122]

Good idea. Maybe starting at 5% and working its way up to about 15%

 

Its good to have someone giving ideas and feedback on the system to improve it, not just grumble :)

players have given feed back on how to  change it and we have been turned down if you look in other post some were real good ideas

 

Hazel-Rah is the one saying they wont work but have only down voted all ideas which is wrong and all ideas should be looked into fully

Edited October 12, 2015 by frozen_heart

[r_GaIaxy2 8,611]

Bro you are wrong.

Just saying I'm wrong doesn't help. Explain why I'm wrong

[r_GaIaxy2 8,611]

players have given feed back on how to  change it and we have been turned down if you look in other post some were real good ideas

 

Hazel-Rah is the one saying they wont work but have only down voted all ideas which is wrong and all ideas should be looked into fully

We need constructive critisism, not just NO PREMIUMS!!!! Ideas that will not only give players what they paid for, but a fair and even game 

[Venom_In_My_Veins 8]

this is like a war :P

Non-Buyers Vs Staff & Mods 

 

go non buyers :P

 

#NoPremiumAccounts 

Go sleep kid.

[viratno2 146]

So many younger players don't realize how businesses work.  They expect to get a lot of attention and nearly everything for free from Tanki while they pay no money to Tanki.

 

Try going to a restaurant and tell them that you expect to receive free meals from the menu.  Maybe you don't expect the very best meal from the menu for free but you expect most everything else to be free.  They will laugh at you.  Make too much of a fuss and they will have the police come remove you.

 

Try going to a big store that sales a lot of different things and tell them you expect to get free items from them.  Again you don't expect the very best items to be free but you expect most everything else to be free.  Again they will laugh at you.  Again, if you make too much of a fuss they will have the police come remove you.

 

Try going to a business where you spend no money and make demands of what you want from them.  Try to harass their employees.  Try to harass their paying customers.  Again, the police will come and haul you away.

 

If you do go to a business and do manage to get things from them for free you should be grateful.  Maybe you don't get everything free that you would like, but getting something for nothing is better than getting nothing at all.

 

Businesses serve the paying customers.  If you really want something from a business that you like then you should find a way to earn some real money in real life and take your money to the business asking and paying for what you want to get.

I'm not writing this to make players upset, this is just a fact of life.

Tanki has been moving forward since it began despite non-paying customers being upset.  Tanki will continue to move forward with or without complaining non-paying customers.

Look now we understand that tanki needs money. Just imagine this other case-

 

Again, the hotel. Tanki version.

 

Let's say you got to a hotel. You understand that you have to pay. But then you order and you see a guy having VIP treatment,like a special table, faster service for him and some waiters exclusively for him. Just because he pays more money. This is common in games. But then you have to pay for him. Afterwards they open a hotel for him. Now, tell us if this is fair.

[r_GaIaxy2 8,611]

Spread the videos. Fast.

Good luck -_-

[Bydo 20,122]

We need constructive critisism, not just NO PREMIUMS!!!! Ideas that will not only give players what they paid for, but a fair and even game 

i understand that but there is others who have posted what your talking about if you go back i have even talked to some of these players off line about there ideas and some are real good so just keep a open mind on all of this ..some of us are still venting and others have time to calm down and get there heads around all what is doing down..

[Pathfinder 1,690]

Good idea. Maybe starting at 5% and working its way up to about 15%

 

Its good to have someone giving ideas and feedback on the system to improve it, not just grumble :)

 

 

Are we grumbling? No, we are in fact "giving ideas and feedback on the system to improve it" - developers and moderators alike are simply too egotistical and caught up in their loyalty to Tanki to accept any of it, even when there are so many expressing collectively the same thoughts

 

 

I totally agree. Without any funding there wouldn't be Tanki and some players seem to forget that :)

That's absolutely right, but again a short-sighted person might forget that if there were less and less players because game experience deteriorated - and as we have said and explained, it will for the masses- there wouldn't be Tanki either

 

  

Yeah, I think the players have had too much control over updates in the past, and they find it hard to give that up (I know I do)

 

Tanki has a great relationship with the community, which is both a great thing and a horrible thing, but that's another thing I love about tanki

We believe we control everything that happens in Tanki, but thats not entirely true. 

Yes, Tanki is the company and we are the customer, but there needs to be a balance of community input and developer input into the game

 

Other games don't seem to care about what the player want, so when a bad update comes out its stay or leave, no debate.

One of the moderators clearly stated that what we post in I&S has no value and will bear no fruit. Repeatedly Tanki has not actually addressed proper problems but only made changes that will overpower buyers, making this game unplayable for those who don't.

 

I don't think that's a great relationship with the community, where are you getting that from?

 

There does need to be a balance of community input and developer input - right now there's simply not, since the community input is not being listened to

 

And really? Other games don't seem to care about what the players want? That's Tanki mate, through all these updates that make the game more and more P2P it's alienating a significant portion of players.

 

In nearly all top games paying merely facilities progress, or cosmetics. They require no, or merely just a one time payment for the game itself, and don't require a continual stream of cash to keep up with the rest. Let's just take League of Legends, only the top game in the world. Buying skins gives you no advantage in the game, yet that is what people buy. Buyers have no advantage in the game itself. Why - because they have bothered to iron out the game's problems before offering a completely optional (some may say useless feature). This makes the game fun and moreover playable for everyone, whether they buy or not.

 

You, moderator, are merely a player with an avatar. We know, some of us have been moderaptors before. I don't even know why you are trying to play the big man when you know about as little as we do. So stop trying to shut us down - not everyone has the luxury of being paid crystals for jack all work

[Rayyan 3,415]

We need constructive critisism, not just NO PREMIUMS!!!! Ideas that will not only give players what they paid for, but a fair and even game 

I'll narrate you a story.

 

Once upon a time there was a group of 16 below gamers, they played games like battlefield heroes, need for speed world, bfp4f, cod, club penguin etc. this all games had either membership or premium account and all games were closed. But there was a hope a new game for this games called "Tanki online". They saw that it doesn't have something called membership or premium account. Now they find that this virtual world game extends it greed and made it's decision to close.

[Juju_X 172]

Guys, relax for a moment and stop speak without knowing what will be.

Will be a short post but I will try make it simple and concentrate.

 

A few days ago , my kid ask me ( yes , I play with my kid o. The same acc) "daddy, what means the new upcoming ?"

 

my answer was:

 

 

The new upcoming update is not something radical , is just another section in the game.

Let's see a little bit what that means.

 

- current section allows you to buy crystals with or withou DCC

what means that ?

Means : if you spend real money you will get hi items and some benefits ( pro battle,score passes ,kits,hulls,guns, paints)

What mean that ? Means you buy.

 

The new section:

Will be similar.

What mean that ?

Means : you pay for same stuff but in a different way.

What way ?

Pack way.

 

What I have in the pack ?

- pro pass

- score pass

- paint/s

- hulls ( xt or not )

- guns (xt or not )

 

Advantage:

 

Yes - low ranks because they will rank faster and they will have a faster way to the hi items.

(With current version they must buy pro pass, score pass, a lot of MU , paints etc)

( with new update they will have all that in one pack)

So, with current or new section you must pay if u want fast acces to hi game.

 

 

 

Yes: for hi ranks because they don't need that pack. Why is it an advantage ?

Because hi ranks no need xp points , hi items in garage paints, etc. they need just a pro battle pass and done. So, hi ranks are in more advantage.

 

 

If look very carful at those version , you will that are similar options.

Most important is : you not forcet to buy. If you want you buy , if not, not.

 

My opinion overall:

Negative feedback - "like button" without up/down vote

 

Positive feedback - "last v-log"

 

The only thing bad is information.

For example :

-after expire the PA , xt items will stay in garage?

-When you buy PA , still you can buy 100% score ?

( a will do a list with questions or all and I will post later) I hop will be someone nice to answer.

 

 

 

Bdw : my kid are 10 years old and she got the idea.

Edited October 12, 2015 by Juju_X

[Rayyan 3,415]

Guys remember what Hazel said? 

 

"forum is minority,

game is majority."

 

---

 

The players within forum are the tankers who make new accounts.

 

for example

 

Forum players = 97 % of whole tanki with more than 2 accounts

1% = non forum users

1% = newbies

1% = blocked accounts.

Edited October 12, 2015 by Quasar

[1231kx 6]

I look forward to the new version! Especially the realistic behavior of vehicles! Dancing on the roofs of tanks, annoying! This sci-fi game! Repair kit, weapons! They should be closer to reality. Small new design, other names! eg: Smoky M0 = 20mm automatic, / = 25 mm automatic M1 / M2 = 30mm automatic, / M3 = 37mm automatic, / M4 = 40mm automatic. Other: Now is the hull, turret. New idea: There's hull, engine, tracks, turret and gun. If you will be premium tank!

I forgot! The rankings come quickly. You got six months to the end of the game. High drop-out rates! Solution. If you have a gun and M4, M1 and M0 was it? So back to them! The battles opponents with weapons can enter the same category. So hornet against M0 +M0 rail vs M0 guns-only allowed opponents (the rank terminated).

 

 

The player is not bored M4 general as well!  I t takes smoky M0 M0 hornet looking for himself and the pitch.

Edited October 12, 2015 by 1231kx

[Rayyan 3,415]

Guys, relax for a moment and stop speak without knowing what will be.

Will be a short post but I will try make it simple and concentrate.

 

A few days ago , my kid ask me ( yes , I play with my kid o. The same acc) "daddy, what means the new upcoming ?"

 

my answer was:

 

 

The new upcoming update is not something radical , is just another section in the game.

Let's see a little bit what that means.

 

- current section allows you to buy crystals with or withou DCC

what means that ?

Means : if you spend real money you will get hi items and some benefits ( pro battle,score passes ,kits,hulls,guns, paints)

What mean that ? Means you buy.

 

The new section:

Will be similar.

What mean that ?

Means : you pay for same stuff but in a different way.

What way ?

Pack way.

 

What I have in the pack ?

- pro pass

- score pass

- paint/s

- hulls ( xt or not )

- guns (xt or not )

 

Advantage:

 

Yes - low ranks because they will rank faster and they will have a faster way to the hi items.

(With current version they must buy pro pass, score pass, a lot of MU , paints etc)

( with new update they will have all that in one pack)

So, with current or new section you must pay if u want fast acces to hi game.

 

 

 

Yes: for hi ranks because they don't need that pack. Why is it an advantage ?

Because hi ranks no need xp points , hi items in garage paints, etc. they need just a pro battle pass and done. So, hi ranks are in more advantage.

 

 

If look very carful at those version , you will that are similar options.

Most important is : you not forcet to buy. If you want you buy , if not, not.

 

My opinion overall:

Negative feedback - "like button" without up/down vote

 

Positive feedback - "last v-log"

 

 

Bdw : my kid are 10 years old and she got the idea.

I kinda don't understand me 13 to old for this so in different way, please!

[Pathfinder 1,690]

you not forcet to buy. If you want you buy , if not, not.

This is what many of us disagree with. Slowly Tanki is becoming a game where buying is necessary in order to keep up with the rest. Buying gives you power, an actual advantage in-game compared to non-buyers.

 

I'm careful not to offend you, but honestly when you reach higher ranked battles you will understand - without drugs and well upgraded equipment you won't keep up. They require a ridiculous amount of crystals - from my own experience I could walk into battles with friends and the few of us could dominate the game. That's because we bought, or were paid mods.

 

So, if my experience was bad enough to make me quit two months ago, how do you think it will be after this update?

[Rayyan 3,415]

Good luck -_-

Shadow, I do know you. You are wiki editor that's why you've to be against us. :(

[Juju_X 172]

This is what many of us disagree with. Slowly Tanki is becoming a game where buying is necessary in order to keep up with the rest. Buying gives you power, an actual advantage in-game compared to non-buyers.

I'm careful not to offend you, but honestly when you reach higher ranked battles you will understand - without drugs and well upgraded equipment you won't keep up. They require a ridiculous amount of crystals - from my own experience I could walk into battles with friends and the few of us could dominate the game. That's because we bought, or were paid mods.

So, if my experience was bad enough to make me quit two months ago, how do you think it will be after this update?

I,m agree with you but when you are in hi rank you have more advantage in comparation with low ranks.

For example :

You can buy supplies @ 80% discount.

Almost all items are m3 and the finish line is m3+.

 

I'm not agree with that paint , in rest is balanced.

[Rayyan 3,415]

Guys they hided my topic T_T

[r_Arabiannoble0 1,756]

hhhhh nagibator but you told me before in youtube comment, aaaaa who cares, Sami has no money?  0.o

noob kalle :v

 

 

The king is kirby, look at how he speaks.  Knowledgeable, calm, collected, and slamming fact after fact against any blustering.

Edited October 12, 2015 by r_Arabiannoble0