Episode 63 of the V-LOG is here

[canadarules 1,938]

Yes, but my idea on a Premium Account (based on what I have seen in other games) is that it gives the player advantages that don't affect other players or gameplay (XP and Cry Boost, XT availability, maybe some other advantages). Yeah a special paint will be cool, but with protections that dont compare to other special paints 

well in the other tank game they have 2 separate currencies in game one of which u can only buy or get from missions but it doesn't affect the gaemplay. I think the devs most likely thought this through i mean 15% is little to none imo bur not sure if you think it is alot..  maybe once you reach a certian rank it increases the protection like for instance you enter the stage of m1 it goes of 4% or something like that idk

[creeperskelly 1,281]

Most of the posts here are representing the have-paid-little-or-nothing players (referring to money in real life.)  Tanki had better make the premium accounts offer pretty sweet to get paying players to pay it month after month.  If not enough players are signing up for pay-to-play I'm sure Tanki will improve the offer and benefits for pay-to-play players.  Money talks.  I'm sure more changes will be made to all of this in various ways after premium accounts begin.  Hold on for the ride everyone !   :ph34r:

If you create too much imbalance who are the paying players going to bully once all the free ones get sick and tired of it???

 

If all that is left is paying players many of them would quit because a bunch of them lack the skills necessary to play Tanki aside from pressing 1-2-3-4 all the time.

[creeperskelly 1,281]

Yes, but my idea on a Premium Account (based on what I have seen in other games) is that it gives the player advantages that don't affect other players or gameplay (XP and Cry Boost, XT availability, maybe some other advantages). Yeah a special paint will be cool, but with protections that dont compare to other special paints 

Premium should be a way to give special items - paints, maps, special hulls and turrets, etc. that would not be accessible to non-Premium players.

 

If it just becomes another way to bully players as kits and drugs allow then it's going to drive people away.

[canadarules 1,938]

If you create too much imbalance who are the paying players going to bully once all the free ones get sick and tired of it???

 

If all that is left is paying players many of them would quit because a bunch of them lack the skills necessary to play Tanki aside from pressing 1-2-3-4 all the time.

are you on something atm?(like those things that make u go coo coo)

like seriously if you can't kills someone with 15% than you might want to stay at the recruit level

no imbalance for that

[GhostRider750 614]

15% or 20% all-turrets-protection isn't a big deal if you are a higher rank.  If I'm in a battle with a lot of rail turrets my best paint is Prodigi and I put it on pretty quickly.  If I'm in a CP battle with a lot of firebirds my best paint is Loam and I go right to it.  My rank is high enough that these specialized paints are possible.

 

For lower ranks a 20 all paint probably is too much.  I'm sure Tanki devs have given a lot of thought about making the number smaller for lower ranks and having the number increase quickly for higher ranks -- to 20 and maybe even higher.  Players paying real money better get something for their money.

 

The one thing I don't doubt at all is that the Tanki developers want Tanki to be the very best it can be for free-to-play players and for pay-to-play players.  Changes are coming and changes will always continue to come.  The only constant in life is change.

The developers aren't the bad guys.  They are the good guys.

[viratno2 146]

But now the main problem is that due to the players having held their own during the updates before the change in the forum feedback mechanism, like the rebalance, the score cap, and the failed promises and bad updates, they have had enough of it when the change in forum feedback mechanism was announced. The premium accounts idea was actually suggested in a topic among ideas for the upcoming unity version of tanki, and that thing got like 100+ downvotes. Many players argued that the game was already becoming pay to win and the game doesn't need to give more advantages to buyers.

 

Now this decision has lit the bomb, along with the irresponsible behaviour of (some, only some, very less) of the mods and developers and also ClassyPlebs's video added fuel to the fire. The current situation is one to be handled with care between the staff, the mods and the players of Tanki. There has to be an acceptance of ideas and a certain amount of give and take, as the point the players are raising (imbalance, advantage to druggers, pay to win) are valid ones, and the mods and devs have a hard job ahead of them.

 

IMO the premium accounts will be an imbalance, as buyers will use drugs, kits and premium accounts, thus ruining a fair, enjoyable and skill based battle to a lopsided drug war. Maybe instead of giving kits to premium account users, maybe if exclusive content is awarded to premium players (like maps, new gameplays) then the concept shall not ruin the actual non buyers and little buyers and non premium players.

 

Also, if premium accounts are a must, then supplies should either be scrapped or nerfed, IMHO.

[r_Arabiannoble0 1,756]

I suppose I can say it is good to feel content about a change from 20 to 15 percent. 

That is actually quite significant, and for me, it makes special esport paints worth fighting for again.

Kudos for that.

Edited October 13, 2015 by r_Arabiannoble0

[Quincie 531]

Well This is for those who hates/doesn't agree with Players who buy crystals or have premium account

 

Tanki would never be this much ahead if there were no buyers, Where does all the money for maintenance comes from ? all the money to buy these super high tech computers and designing software comes from the Buyers!, Think if there were no buyer in tanki , where it would be right now ?

[ww75 45]

Update for buyers... 

he has spoken

[AbsoluteZero 3,729]

I really hope that TO will all learn from this debacle.

 

Players are not here so you can ride roughshod over us anytime you like simply because you reserve the right to. You really need to start asking us our opinions on big changes like this first.  Don't come out and announce this is what we're doing, rather, come out and say this is what we're thinking of doing and we want your input on it... Please help us shape it.

 

TO devs and volunteers should be professional enough not to retaliate in sarcastic and condescending ways and they should refrain from this at all times. There are reasons you guys are where you are.  Instead, try thanking us a bit more for input and there is nothing wrong with a bit of encouragement even when our suggestions are far off the mark.  This way you achieve respect and the mood around here would be a better one.

[MA_G_I_C 45]

Why do you make the assumption buy-to-play or adverts is the only alternative? What about addressing real problems like mults, that we have been asking for for a long time?

Wow(!) You said tanki is a buy-to-win xD

 

So you're saying that the people you are speaking on behalf on will like this update if TO fix the problem of mults?

[Juju_X 172]

Hi again,

I finish my 3th coffee reading all post from here.

I know , you are not happy about that new upcoming section in game but you must one, just one simple thing.

Without support TO will be just a history on Google search box.

All of us we want more and more from this game. We want new things , we want new looks, new and new every time but the questions is : how can that will be possible ? The answer is: with support.

Behind your satisfaction, behind your moving turret or hauls, behind your pixels,behind your feelings after login , behind all that are those guys who work. They work for you and for me , they work for ours satisfaction , for our relaxing time. Do you want them to work for free?

For a moment put yourself in the same position. You will work for free? You will work every day, every month for free?

All of us we wait for new TO , we want something outstanding from devs but they cannot do that without support.

You must understand, the new upcoming will not be a radical , will not split the game in two section. Is just a new section designed to speed up game a little bit. Of course, will be some advantage but will not be a radical one.

Is similar with current section but in different ways.

In both ways if we want some advantage we spent real money. We spent real money for crystals and then we buy some hi paints or some kit's , or some outer items. ( pro pass, points pass etc,etc ). I do the mathematical calculations and you can't buy m3's combos only from battle founds. ( is possible but you must play 3,5 years/8 hour/day ).

So, the new section will almost the same : if we want little advantage , we buy , if not, will play on default mod. The only "scary" thing is that paint but wait and see.

If you are on low ranks , you will have littl advantage but not in direct mod, but you will have an advantage for faster grow. Once you get the higher rank, the PA will not be necessary cuz you don't need anymore XP , or rank for hi items.

If you want more crystals from battle found the option will be your decision.

The XT items are just something for design , is similar with regular M3's

 

My opinion abou that ( but is just my opinion ) is : the 15% protection is to hi. After I do the math , 12% ( or less) will be balanced one in raport with power option from ( m3's + MU)

 

Now, a few questions for those who want to know about new sistem mecanism.

Will be nice if somebody will answer us.

 

1 The XT items are avalabile @ any rank? M1,2,3. ?

2 After PA expire , XT items will stay in garage and can be uset without PA ?

3 If you have PA active , you can buy 30,50,100% score pass ?

4. Daily mission will have olso XT mission for non PA acc ?

5. Cost of PA ?

 

Thank you

Edited October 13, 2015 by Juju_X

[Mafia 339]

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Edited October 13, 2015 by Mafia

[AbsoIuteAIpha 29]

If the dislike button was here, this topic was Tanki World Record most disliked topic.

[r_Soldier280 478]

No money, No game, No game, no Fun, No fun, *Gonna miss Tanki*

[viratno2 146]

Hi again,

I finish my 3th coffee reading all post from here.

I know , you are not happy about that new upcoming section in game but you must one, just one simple thing.

Without support TO will be just a history on Google search box.

All of us we want more and more from this game. We want new things , we want new looks, new and new every time but the questions is : how can that will be possible ? The answer is: with support.

Behind your satisfaction, behind your moving turret or hauls, behind your pixels,behind your feelings after login , behind all that are those guys who work. They work for you and for me , they work for ours satisfaction , for our relaxing time. Do you want them to work for free?

For a moment put yourself in the same position. You will work for free? You will work every day, every month for free?

All of us we wait for new TO , we want something outstanding from devs but they cannot do that without support.

You must understand, the new upcoming will not be a radical , will not split the game in two section. Is just a new section designed to speed up game a little bit. Of course, will be some advantage but will not be a radical one.

Is similar with current section but in different ways.

In both ways if we want some advantage we spent real money. We spent real money for crystals and then we buy some hi paints or some kit's , or some outer items. ( pro pass, points pass etc,etc ). I do the mathematical calculations and you can't buy m3's combos only from battle founds. ( is possible but you must play 3,5 years/8 hour/day ).

So, the new section will almost the same : if we want little advantage , we buy , if not, will play on default mod. The only "scary" thing is that paint but wait and see.

If you are on low ranks , you will have littl advantage but not in direct mod, but you will have an advantage for faster grow. Once you get the higher rank, the PA will not be necessary cuz you don't need anymore XP , or rank for hi items.

If you want more crystals from battle found the option will be your decision.

The XT items are just something for design , is similar with regular M3's

 

My opinion abou that ( but is just my opinion ) is : the 15% protection is to hi. After I do the math , 12% ( or less) will be balanced one in raport with power option from ( m3's + MU)

 

Now, a few questions for those who want to know about new sistem mecanism.

Will be nice if somebody will answer us.

 

1 The XT items are avalabile @ any rank? M1,2,3. ?

2 After PA expire , XT items will stay in garage and can be uset without PA ?

3 If you have PA active , you can buy 30,50,100% score pass ?

4. Daily mission will have olso XT mission for non PA acc ?

5. Cost of PA ?

 

Thank you

The problem is that buyers already have tooooo much advantages, like buying crystals, drugs, kits and for all i know this idea is ok if it doesn't disturb normal gameplay of free players and/or little buyers.If it does then imbalance will be a major problem.

[AbsoIuteAIpha 29]

^ Kid u only see Buyers 10% of ur life.

I play for 3,5 years and I see them 50% of the time.

Edited October 13, 2015 by AbsoIuteAIpha

[RustyNail 1,538]

are you on something atm?(like those things that make u go coo coo)

like seriously if you can't kills someone with 15% than you might want to stay at the recruit level

no imbalance for that

Are YOU on something atm?

Try to kill an M4 titan - thunder - premium paint* on DA,  with your smoky / firebird / freeze / isida / vulkan / twins and if you do, I will quit Tanki.

And if you ask "why M4 plus DA plus repairs on hand?" I will answer "because that's what top buyer is. All of that together"

 

So, stop trolling the topic, by now you've proved what a good kid you are. <_<

 

 

 

*and a couple of repair kits at hand

Edited October 13, 2015 by RustyNail

[Georgeaus 0]

You are not think i am joking i can ban you and come in hightnand cft game i want duel match and i can cat pure many flags i am better than you i am godmode_trolls main account and i have many bullents in my account you dare but u run and i take gold box and become winner :angry:

[Pathfinder 1,690]

Wow(!) You said tanki is a buy-to-win xD

 

So you're saying that the people you are speaking on behalf on will like this update if TO fix the problem of mults?

Have a look at some M4 stats. Having played with them, I know exactly how overpowered they are. Viking, Isida, fully Mu Rock, you have a dramatic impact on any small map game. Thunder, Viking, fully MU clay, you can two hit most things on the map. Now imagine a few of us...

 

Don't be so naive. I only own these courtesy of moderator income. Each costs many hundreds of thousands of crystals and only along with well planned buying on sales. With no pay there is no chance for a non-buyer to realistically ever afford anything near it and compete

 

And in fact yes, mults is a far greater problem. Since there is no way to deal with them, and it is, essentially cheating. Take a look at the kick system suggested by @AbsoluteZero in I&S, as a way of dealing with them. It has almost 350 upvotes and pages and pages of discussion. So yes. I think the community agrees multing is a much larger issue.

 

And on a final note, don't twist my words. At no point did I say people will like this update if they dealt with mults - in case you haven't noticed this update is about premium accounts, and they are two completely separate things.

 

So would you prefer a buy-to-play or adverts covering up the game screen? Wow, you have stooped to a new low. I used to respect you and look up to you in awe, but now I see it was an act... Jumping on the bandwagon because you've got nothing better to do. It's what having no-life does to you I'm afraid. And tanki is a business, they offer a service and need custom. You may think that they are being unethical, they aren't. All services need to either gain money or be funded. For example: you know schools get funded for every student that they teach. Yes, it's roughly a couple of grand per student using taxpayers money. Do you think it's fair on taxpayers when the Gov. increase the percentage. No!? Because that is life... and as I have previosuly stated you'd understand if you had one

From your initial post and insults I recognise your type as some of the less polite and more childish people on this forum, don't expect a reply to your next comment. Edited October 13, 2015 by Pathfinder

[r_IMT-5390 150]

before implementing such faetures to the game,PLEASE do something about this!!!!!..you have way more problems to resolve before premium..I have one example under the spoiler

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Pathfinder 1,690]

I suppose I can say it is good to feel content about a change from 20 to 15 percent. 

That is actually quite significant, and for me, it makes special esport paints worth fighting for again.

Kudos for that.

Lots to be done but a step in the right direction

[r_IMT-5390 150]

@canadarules has a good point -- we're exaggerating the effect that the Premium paint will have on gameplay. It's not like a battle is ruined when a couple players have Helper paint.

partialy I do agree with you,but trust me,paint issue is off proportion..u remember forst paint?..20% on everything??..couple of my friends and I bouhgt it when it was down to 10k,right on map,that was the time before anti hammer oaint got out..although we are strong as a group,we couldn't fight 4-5 hammers on polygon,but,situation demanded additional help (because fund was close to 100k) and 4 or 5 (not 100% sure how many of us were there) bought it..and guess what?..pure SLAUGHTERING..paint was able to keep us alive in average of 25% more time then usually..game was ended at the moment we went to garage and made purchase..20% is too much..15% max is only way to keep games balanced (not more umbalanced then now,to be exact)

[Cor7y 13,862]

15% or 20% all-turrets-protection isn't a big deal if you are a higher rank.  If I'm in a battle with a lot of rail turrets my best paint is Prodigi and I put it on pretty quickly.  If I'm in a CP battle with a lot of firebirds my best paint is Loam and I go right to it.  My rank is high enough that these specialized paints are possible.

 

For lower ranks a 20 all paint probably is too much.  I'm sure Tanki devs have given a lot of thought about making the number smaller for lower ranks and having the number increase quickly for higher ranks -- to 20 and maybe even higher.  Players paying real money better get something for their money.

 

The one thing I don't doubt at all is that the Tanki developers want Tanki to be the very best it can be for free-to-play players and for pay-to-play players.  Changes are coming and changes will always continue to come.  The only constant in life is change.

The developers aren't the bad guys.  They are the good guys.

Yeah sure..... Please post the pics of the opinions you gave the devs in a PM, bcoz ya know, the "staff" (The money makers) aren't allowed to post negative comments about Tanki.

[Juju_X 172]

The problem is that buyers already have tooooo much advantages, like buying crystals, drugs, kits and for all i know this idea is ok if it doesn't disturb normal gameplay of free players and/or little buyers.If it does then imbalance will be a major problem.

The problem is that buyers already have tooooo much advantages, like buying crystals, drugs, kits and for all i know this idea is ok if it doesn't disturb normal gameplay of free players and/or little buyers.If it does then imbalance will be a major problem.

You wrong. With new section you don't have big advantage in 101 game play.

 

The only thing with plus is that paint (15%) and that is irrelevant in top ranks where you find m3's +

In rest you don't have any advantage.

 

For example

-now if u have crystals you can MU yours M3's

-after update if u buy PA , yours m3's will be the same, will not be upgraded.