Episode 63 of the V-LOG is here

[hansn12 371]

game managers kept an eye at > $ < only. how to gain more and more > $ <  this is the development of the game managers ....its Only business and in business no one dont care about anyone.

Good Luck!  

[Bydo 20,121]

look this might help give in site to the way a business operates for those who don`t know..my opinion ok and careful on what you say cause you can be charged with slander of a company

 

Posted 13 Oct 2015 - 11:02

well all said and done where is  tanki  going  ??

so just to let you guys see how i see how this company  is run and how i see players ..as we all know tanki is a game and is run by a company that is the creators of it.so where i see us is at the bottom of a pyramid we are the millions of grains of sand that make up the base of it and as we move along the game we end up near the top..

in other words the base is our platform where we started with our accounts from there we moved up ..now some moved up using the stairs or the escalator or even a elevator

 

what i mean is ;

 

if you used the stairs( lower class i`m using this as another way in the life chain) in this game you played the game with little / no money invested into it and took your time getting to Gizmo ..and worked harder to get there

 

for the ones using the escalator there the ones who put some to more money then the stair players (or the middle man or the average class working person ) and you moved up the game with supplies easier to get

 

for the ones using the elevators ( high class well to do who pay a lot of money into the game ) and got to the top rank fastest then others..

 

so saying all that then i see mods basically in the same boat and lower class players there the police in the system next would be there boss and would be the chief and then comes there boss and that`s in this case Seymon the head of the English group and then his boss and then there admins who report back to the main stock holders / owners of the company ..

 

so saying all this and how we all feel about this premium package and unity ..i hope this makes more clear sense to really  who runs the game..

 

now we should be proud of who the developers are and the staff that work close to the players and take our opinions back to the board room and let them know how players feel ..does it matter some times they do listen and other times well little nothing  we can do about it..

this team we have working on this game should be proud of what they have made seeing it has won awards over the years sure its sad to say it could end sooner then we all want it too but this is part of running a company we can`t keep old stock on the shelf when new and exciting prospects are around the corner ..we just have to wait and see what avenue the company chooses in unity there is two systems one we all know is to close tanki off for good and the other way is to keep the program going ..but for how long know one knows ..so lets just hope they keep there word and keep tanki flying high in this gaming field ..

please feel free to correct me on any of this thanks

[creeperskelly 1,281]

Your analogy about stairs, escalators, and elevators is terrible.

 

When I go into a building and take the stairs nobody is throwing bombs of flaming oil down on me while I ascend. I may go up slower but I'm not being bullied or harassed the entire way up. People on the elevator don't throw buses down on the people on the escalator while going up.

 

If people were buying simply to rank faster it would be one thing. But the way it is done here is essentially the ability to pay to rank and bully at the same time.

[So 1,636]

What's up people!

 

I'd like to thank you all for sharing your opinions on Premium Account. After thinking it through, we've decided to decrease Premium paint's protections from 20% to 15%.

 

Once the feature is launched, we'll be closely monitoring the situation, reacting to it if necessary.

20% was good  :(

[Mafia 339]

20% was good  :(

U MAD BRO ?

[MiR4cUl0uS 815]

Oh cool a premium account! Oh wait, you have to pay for it... BS

[The-Operator219 1,929]

game managers kept an eye at > $ < only. how to gain more and more > $ <  this is the development of the game managers ....its Only business and in business no one dont care about anyone.

Good Luck!  

Look, if you invest your soul and body to something, why wouldn't you care?

They care about us because they put something in the premium features: extra XP gain. They know we're tired of buyers dominating, so they got em' out of our hair before it's a problem.

Edited October 13, 2015 by The-Operator219

[hansn12 371]

Look, if you invest your soul and body to something, why wouldn't you care?

They care about us because they put something in the premium features: extra XP gain. They know we're tired of buyers dominating, so they got em' out of our hair before it's a problem.

In Premium feature you have to give  $s ... got it ...

 

[Bydo 20,121]

Your analogy about stairs, escalators, and elevators is terrible.

 

When I go into a building and take the stairs nobody is throwing bombs of flaming oil down on me while I ascend. I may go up slower but I'm not being bullied or harassed the entire way up. People on the elevator don't throw buses down on the people on the escalator while going up.

 

If people were buying simply to rank faster it would be one thing. But the way it is done here is essentially the ability to pay to rank and bully at the same time.

yes i understand i only used it as a reference nothing in real  life more like rich to the middle class to lower class should be ..buts its only a idea nothing more

[Brubook 1,161]

You meant it for him, by calling him a kid and saying that buyers are a small part of his life. Unfortunately, you just want him to answer because he has no way of proving the number of buyers at his rank. However, might I remind you that you don't have any proof either to just estimate it as being 10% of the players.

 

So when AA replied with his opinion based solely on experience, you say he wasn't meant to answer it. Why won't you accept the reply instead of dismissing it because you meant it for the person who can't reply with proof?

And even in an estimate of a 10% payers over players ... you can't even imagine the hell of a lot of revenues that Tanki (read Alternativa Platform) makes!!!!

I made some economic estimation taking that ratio ... we are talking about millions $ revenues!

 

So they shouldn't be soo greedy and destroy a nice (and profitable) game!

[canadarules 1,938]

I suppose I can say it is good to feel content about a change from 20 to 15 percent. 

That is actually quite significant, and for me, it makes special esport paints worth fighting for again.

Kudos for that.

oh looks who stopped whining about this and you do realize mods will ban the paint from tournaments right? So really  you may see it once in every 50 battles XD

 

partialy I do agree with you,but trust me,paint issue is off proportion..u remember forst paint?..20% on everything??..couple of my friends and I bouhgt it when it was down to 10k,right on map,that was the time before anti hammer oaint got out..although we are strong as a group,we couldn't fight 4-5 hammers on polygon,but,situation demanded additional help (because fund was close to 100k) and 4 or 5 (not 100% sure how many of us were there) bought it..and guess what?..pure SLAUGHTERING..paint was able to keep us alive in average of 25% more time then usually..game was ended at the moment we went to garage and made purchase..20% is too much..15% max is only way to keep games balanced (not more umbalanced then now,to be exact)

the game is dependent on the low rankers more than the high ones :X

 

Are YOU on something atm?

Try to kill an M4 titan - thunder - premium paint* on DA,  with your smoky / firebird / freeze / isida / vulkan / twins and if you do, I will quit Tanki.

And if you ask "why M4 plus DA plus repairs on hand?" I will answer "because that's what top buyer is. All of that together"

 

So, stop trolling the topic, by now you've proved what a good kid you are. <_<

 

 

 

*and a couple of repair kits at hand

ok i go ram it and use twins with prod... easy kill i use dp.. he keeps killing himself and i wreck him

yawn easy kill, twins is the king of tanki no matter what

 

Tanki Online has definetely become a Pay2WIn MMO now, see here

*sigh*

 

Farewell tankers, my career has officially ended.

*Sigh* you bored me with how stupid that is

Edited October 13, 2015 by canadarules

[RustyNail 1,538]

I believe that much will clear in your minds if you ask yourself why companies that produced disk games turned to internet and created MMOgs.

Apart from other reasons, there is this:

 

In previous pc games, the player has to face virtual opponents, bots, what we call environment. The so called PvsE (while games like Tanki are PvsP - player vs player).

PvsE games have one major disadvantage. The AI included is restricted to one level that is not very satisfactory. I mean, one can fight a cluster of "bad guys', including the mean "Boss" at the end of the level, but once you do this a couple of times then the opponents (AI) become predictable and the game gets boring.

The graphics have advanced a lot, but Artificial Intelligence not so much. Environment can never be so creative as to produce a big variety of challenges for the skilled players.

Then, there is the possibility of a LAN game, where players play against players. Wow! Great improvement! Now the "enemy" is creative, it can alter their strategies and methods, and playing is not boring after a few rounds..

There you go, MMOgs are born.

 

So, bear in mind, that non buyers may play for "free", but they provide a valuable service to the company: they "lend" their mind, their creativity and their time to produce satisfactory opponents for other players, including the buyers.

 

So, in a way, the company uses the wide non buyers' base to create the playing environment that will make the game challenging.

Thus, no non buyer should feel guilty for "not sustaining"  the company. Because that is simply not true.

 

Everybody contributes to this game, and thus everybody is entitled to satisfaction, fun and even victory!

Take that into consideration, players, mods and developers alike. :mellow:

[canadarules 1,938]

An Actual Question many have!

If you buy XT on the premium account, do you keep it forever even after the premium goes away?

[drazeruzumaki 5,021]

An Actual Question many have!

If you buy XT on the premium account, do you keep it forever even after the premium goes away?

if it is, i plan to buy a lot :ph34r:

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Since thy were kind enough to say they'll let us try it for free, can I buy the XT items at my rank? (WO3)

[RustyNail 1,538]

Dude, your thought is not valid.

You say that after the premium buyers get their extra xp they will rank up fast leaving you free to enjoy the game, right?

Well, what about other players, new to the game, that will get the premium account? And others after those... and others after those... and so on, and so forth.

There will ALWAYS be premium players with us, beating us with their superior combos, their MUed combos, their variety of paints (or the premium paint) and above all, their unlimited drugs.

 

So, don't ask players to stop complaining. If Tanki said that along with premium accounts it would remove supplies kits, I would be the first to give them an upvote (R.I.P. Downvotes) a like! But, no, they keep the drugs and they ADD the premiums... Just what some players say: pay-to-win. No pay, no joy.

Edited October 13, 2015 by RustyNail

[FX011 1]

u no pay, u no win.

consider it a lesson you learn from every "free to play" game.

[canadarules 1,938]

Ofc it will go away after a while tanki will lie to you and say yes.

what they will lie to us about it? no you don't know if you buy premiuim and than buy xt they may let you keep it

[The-Operator219 1,929]

My point is: the premium players will leave faster than they join.

And that the game is never "free" it's a sample, like at the grocery store.

[Juju_X 172]

How many hamburger or fast food you eat per day, how many sodas you drink per day ?

All that is unhealthy and you dont care about that , but if you must pay ( let say) 1 $/€/£ per month for PA for your entertainment is to much , yes ?

 

Invest in your relax not in unhealthy life.

[Amon166 90]

Premium accounts are worthless, so this doesn't bother me at all.

[bvcxz1232002 120]

i would be happy if we could create a new acc by using the crystals in the main account. like 150k for a premium one? But why does tanki always want MONEY,MONEY and MONEY? <_<

[bvcxz1232002 120]

How many hamburger or fast food you eat per day, how many sodas you drink per day ?

All that is unhealthy and you dont care about that , but if you must pay ( let say) 1 $/€/£ per month for PA for your entertainment is to much , yes ?

 

Invest in your relax not in unhealthy life.

we r not like u xD we dont eat many hamburbers in A DAY

[Jordi345 24]

Bad idea that premium acc...

[Endurance 543]

It's funny how they remove the dislikes before releasing this V-LOG. Apparently we have to comment on why we dislike something rather than just 'clicking a button'. But why remove half of the comments which are 'hateful' towards Tanki? Well, if we can't dislike the topic nor post hateful comments, what else are we meant to do? The dislike button was a good way to monitor what the community thinks of the update, it is good for those who do not want to share their opinion. If the dislike option was there, this topic would break the record of the most dislikes on a post/topic. But Tanki doesn't want this update to look bad therefore they hide the dislikes. They knew what they were in for.

 

I am not going to share too much of my opinions on the update itself... It's very simple, this game is turning into Pay2Win. Just like alot of other games out there (like Club Penguin). Players are getting forgotten about while buyers are getting hugely favoured. One thing I really liked about this game when I joined was it had no sort of membership, but now this game is becoming just like those games.

Edited October 13, 2015 by Endurance