Myths and rumours answered

[r_Damn_Slow0 12,476]

We were promised that we would be better off after the daily missions. But then they were reduced, and reduced again. Either a stunt from Tanki to make us welcome the change, or miscommunication and lack of organisation (which isn't the first time) from the developers.

To quote @beaku, they showed us the greener grass on the other side then they stopped fertilising the grass.

They were reduced significantly, to the point where we aren't better off at all. I believe it was by more than 50%.

That's nice. But I haven't witnessed a single buff in Daily Missions ever since they were decreased. I still get very low rewards.

It is true that the rewards of daily missions are lower that the free rewards?

and

Can u tell the crystal boxes value that go directly into battle funds to 15min,30min,60min games?

I think everyone can see that rewards are lower that 50% and gold box drops are less so it is true i guess.

 

Why no one informed us about these changes it is a mystery.

How the battle fund parameters have changed during the game history? that was never clearly said out in any update post but got heavily modified during the game history. has it been reduced/incremented with the rebalance, x10 prices update, the fairer battle fund update, the removal of crystal boxes...

 

By how much have the daily missions rewards been altered? are they better than the old daily gifs like the update was promising at his start? please some numbers, no shadowy circumlocutions but clear numbers please.

What is the actual maximum chanche (following serene guidelines) of getting a supermissions? what is the % of it being an XT supermission?

 

Why is tanki following a shadowy policy about some updates, not telling players certain critical variations in the game with a clear post from our community manager/developers? an example is the last "easier missions" update who added some easier missions with lower rewards.

 

I feel a better communication that explains the reasons stuff has to be done would increase the players positive view of the game. Examples are the last update posts regarding downvote removal and the premium paint debate: Discussion between players and developers (the epic Hazel) made us able to undestand the reasons stuff happens and we were able to reach a compromise regarding the premium paint issue. We had to ignore the 99% childish members of the community, but we did it.

Semyon's answer on page 1 is already quite clear about that.  But I do want to point out something though : (see spoiler)

 

 

 

In the older days with daily rewards I kept getting DCC when I didn't need them, silly 1 day pro battle passes, useless bunch of drugs I didn't need (nitro) instead of the drugs I badly needed (repair kit) and once in a while a little amount of crystals which  was fairly pathetic.  

Now with daily missions a noob like me can get 2 super missions running simultaneously and get over 150k easy peasy (far more useful than the beurrk we used to get with daily rewards).  Sure they did reduce it after the first few weeks it came out, but hey, daily missions is still wayyyyyyy better than daily rewards by miles and for the reasons Semyon stated I really do not mind them reducing it a bit, cause you know, I can't be too greedy when its free give-aways.  (daily free- give-aways something many, so many other games don't even have out there, go try them)

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Also

@ @joe2vega : if you feel they didn't tell you about those changes before they arrive then its high time you sub and watch each friday - saturday → https://www.youtube.com/user/tankionlineint

@ @tommybau : ^ as above but also Check this Vlog 62.  Serene does explain so much about supermissions and how easy they are to make them happen more frequently with a few tricks.  There's also topics in gameplay section, articles on wiki.  Have a look at them and once you're done come back to this thread and tell us some more about those "shadowy policy" you're so concerned about.  As for dev-to-player communications, what do you think happens in the News and Announcements section each week?  Was the exclusion of the dislike button something that hindered dev-to-player interaction?

[drazeruzumaki 5,021]

How much were you paid to make this post?

5 sandwiches and 1 dorito bag, u want some?

[Unexplainable 111]

How much were you paid to make this post?

Calm down mate, he didn't got paid... He is just answering to our questions. :)

[drazeruzumaki 5,021]

:P

my mate, we all flood...with content

just flood with a message, joke, troll anything. but with something please

we will take u in the flooding community if u do so :)

the application is here ;)

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

my mate, we all flood...with content

just flood with a message, joke, troll anything. but with something please

we will take u in the flooding community if u do so :)

the application is here ;)

He is part of the "Minimalistic Flooders".

 

Only has one member that group...

[drazeruzumaki 5,021]

a little off-topic but can an admin plz tell semyon to edit the first page of v-log 63. and say that the protection has been reduced, people still think the protection is 15% . i know its kind of their fault since they are not up with the news but still semyon posted the update in a random page and many people dont know about it. plz consider

[PowerStrike1.1 270]

It's hard to say if the answers are or not, same thing with those videos about bribery.

[r_Damn_Slow0 12,476]

Remember BarKode? 

The CS admins/mods were corrupt then, and they still are. 

So whats to say the rest aren't like that?

We just need someone to blow the whistle on all others.  :rolleyes:

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bottom line is, staff can't be trusted. 

Believe it or not, but I got acquainted with the guy only a few months ago.  Was he corrupt? I wouldn't know, cause I wasn't admin back then and I did not and still do not hold all the information about the drama that happened back then (2012 if I recall correctly) , but hey, guess what?  I don't see him around, I also don't see many of the old admins and old mods that people still hold grudges against to this day.  So if they are not around any more, why are you still dwelling over these long gone and past incidents?  :huh: 

 

Also if you think staff or helpers can't be trusted then your choice, no one will force you to believe what you've carved in your head, we got better things to do :)

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

Corruption is a hard and wrong word.

 

In philosophical, theological, or moral discussions, corruption is the abuse of bestowed power or position to acquire a personal benefit. Corruption may include many activities including bribery and embezzlement. Government, or 'political', corruption occurs when an office-holder or other governmental employee acts in an official capacity for personal gain.

 

I was offline few days, but I have read this Topic. When you use a word corruption, then explain (if you can):

 

1. What was a personal benefit of a TO staff member?

2. Did she/he got money from bribe?

 

Once again - please use right words

[drazeruzumaki 5,021]

Also if you think staff or helpers can't be trusted then your choice, no one will force you to believe what you've carved in your head, we got better things to do :)

[joe2vega 1,259]

Semyon's answer on page 1 is already quite clear about that. But I do want to point out something though : (see spoiler)

 

 

 

In the older days with daily rewards I kept getting DCC when I didn't need them, silly 1 day pro battle passes, useless bunch of drugs I didn't need (nitro) instead of the drugs I badly needed (repair kit) and once in a while a little amount of crystals which was fairly pathetic.

Now with daily missions a noob like me can get 2 super missions running simultaneously and get over 150k easy peasy (far more useful than the beurrk we used to get with daily rewards). Sure they did reduce it after the first few weeks it came out, but hey, daily missions is still wayyyyyyy better than daily rewards by miles and for the reasons Semyon stated I really do not mind them reducing it a bit, cause you know, I can't be too greedy when its free give-aways. (daily free- give-aways something many, so many other games don't even have out there, go try them)

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Also

@ @joe2vega : if you feel they didn't tell you about those changes before they arrive then its high time you sub and watch each friday - saturday → https://www.youtube.com/user/tankionlineint

@ @tommybau : ^ as above but also Check this Vlog 62. Serene does explain so much about supermissions and how easy they are to make them happen more frequently with a few tricks. There's also topics in gameplay section, articles on wiki. Have a look at them and once you're done come back to this thread and tell us some more about those "shadowy policy" you're so concerned about. As for dev-to-player communications, what do you think happens in the News and Announcements section each week? Was the exclusion of the dislike button something that hindered dev-to-player interaction?

 

Can u send me the vlog that tell us the rewards from daily are gonna reduce more than 50% and the drop rate of gold box is now 1/10000.

And in battle funds what percent coming from the battle and what from crystal boxes value?

Edited October 13, 2015 by joe2vega

[TNTRicohat 41]

We were promised that we would be better off after the daily missions. But then they were reduced, and reduced again. Either a stunt from Tanki to make us welcome the change, or miscommunication and lack of organisation (which isn't the first time) from the developers.

 

To quote @beaku, they showed us the greener grass on the other side then they stopped fertilising the grass.

 

They were reduced significantly, to the point where we aren't better off at all. I believe it was by more than 50%.

I have no clue whats going on in developers mind these days last year so much discounts and 2x battle funds very common and its good for tankionline but now very hard to earn crystals please think about the game make it more exciting for the players!!!

[Fruit 6,570]

Nice to see administrators (and even our CM) finally getting in touch with players, answering their burning questions. GG, finally.

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

Like in normal daily life: most people will do good, but there are always a few exceptions.

And even good people sometimes make mistakes.

 

So I have no reason at all to distrust TO staff. If you look carefully you can always find a few bad examples,

but that 's never a good reason to distrust the TO staff or in a bigger picture: humanity.

[drazeruzumaki 5,021]

Like in normal daily life: most people will do good, but there are always a few exceptions.

And even good people sometimes make mistakes.

 

So I have no reason at all to distrust TO staff. If you look carefully you can always find a few bad examples,

but that 's never a good reason to distrust the TO staff or in a bigger picture: humanity.

whoa whoa bro easy we are not taking humanity into picture here, lets just stick to tanki and tanki's community

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

I have no clue whats going on in developers mind these days last year so much discounts and 2x battle funds very common and its good for tankionline but now very hard to earn crystals please think about the game make it more exciting for the players!!!

You do not understand

 

Seems that TO is not using golden rule of business called Respect the costumer, because costumer is always right. Otherwise you will loose it

 

And I know why, most of the players are addicted kids, so everything what TO HQ is doing or not doing they know that most of the players (addicted kids) will stay.

 

I have to admit that they have a brilliant psychological policy, that can not be disputed

[drazeruzumaki 5,021]

And I know why, most of the players are addicted kids, so everything what TO HQ is doing or not doing they know that most of the players (addicted kids) will stay.

oops u got me there :rolleyes:

kid will stay

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

whoa whoa bro easy we are not taking humanity into picture here, lets just stick to tanki and tanki's community

We are a "picture of humanity" in a very small way on this Forum:

all kinds of people around here, just like in daily life, each playing his/her role... :P

 

But hey you 're right, let 's stick to Tanki and stuff! + ;)

[drazeruzumaki 5,021]

good answer :)

+1 dont have any upvotes left but i agree with u

[Guest]

So, why do we even apply for staff? Let's clear some things. I applied for mod, many times, because I want to help and contribute something to our community. But, there is a problem. Many people apply for staff, just because they want to get paid with crystals and special paints. 

And, how do we even call staff members? We call them volunteers who want to help. That is true, in some cases.

 

"Why do we even apply for Staff?" - This is a great question which may have different replies depending on someone's way of thinking about it.

All the Helpers work hard to support Tanki Online project in all its aspects and they do so solely to see the Game they love become bigger, better and enjoyable for everyone.

Chat Mods protect users - PROTECT - from threats in everyday Game's life in Chat, while Forum Mods do the same on Forum.

Reporters and Wiki Editors grant informations, articles and guides free to be seen by anyone, anytime and in a way that allows everyone to understand them.

Help Site Consultants provide you all the informations you need for your issues and work hard to find more ways to resolve them since they are well aware that each of you need his / her own specific attention and time aswell as personalized support - issues are not the same for eveyrone.

Facebook Mods work on TO FB Page - they possibly reply to all your comments, questions and many different things non-stop, they are the "social" side that new users or not-yet-TO-players will see first while searching infos over this amazing Game.

ESport Helpers are the "face" of Tanki Online - they represent the Game while streaming and while commentating, while organizing Contests and keeping Clans organized - I am sure that we can all agree that Clans are, alongside with other features from the Game, what made Tanki Online as famous as it is now.

 

Do you really think that Helpers do all of the above only to get crystals and one special paint? Didn't you think about the fact that they might have been doing this much only cause they DO love this Game and want to "help and contribute"?

 

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So, who is a volunteer? Volunteer is a person who wants to help, for free, without any payments. It would be understandable if staff members would only receive special paints, for their hard work, and not huge amounts of crystals.

 

All those working for Tanki Online are volunteer, we are accepted for our will of supporting this project and not to get paid anything. Crystals simply represent an extra incentive for us, as we spend so much time in the Game for you all and for the Game and its Community. 

Some of us work 14-16 hours a day, everyday, on the project :)

 

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If they would not get paid with crystals, we would have more honest staff members, who really want to help. :)

As said above, I assure you that none of us, current volunteers, work for crystals. If the Administration (meaning Tanki Online owners) decide to stop paying us crystals, no one will leave. There might be exceptions thought, but that will simply mean that those leaving due to the absence of an income were really here only for crystals and deserved to go out :)

Replies are in orange ;)

[r_Damn_Slow0 12,476]

Okay what sami said is it true?

 

The boy said many things, a whole lot of them are highly speculative btw, the ones concerning the game, various aspects of it and its future, but also several things surrounding eSports were mentioned without giving the full story, sadly, and in a much dramatic style.  Well why rely on speculations and incomplete information when you can have official answers?  That's what this topic is about, if things he said caused you to have doubts, feel free ask here and we'll answer you.  Do make your questions clear please.

[Lord-of-the-Snipers 1,620]

 

If they would not get paid with crystals, we would have more honest staff members, who really want to help. :)

As said above, I assure you that none of us, current volunteers, work for crystals. If the Administration (meaning Tanki Online owners) decide to stop paying us crystals, no one will leave. There might be exceptions thought, but that will simply mean that those leaving due to the absence of an income were really here only for crystals and deserved to go out :)

 

And many of you, certainly the high-rankers already have superb garages: so I don 't see why a volunteer

would spend so much of his own time for essentially nothing if he was in it for the crystals.

[doduobird 315]

He used to be part of the staff and he was a commentator; how is the information that he gives us 'speculations' and 'incomplete'? I do agree that some thing he said are a bit exaggerated, but for the most part, I believe the majority of things that he said. 

 

That being said, I would like an official answer to this question: Will our accounts be transferred? Yes or no. Don't give me some elusive answer like "the flash version will continue alongside the unity version", or "it depends". I want to be able to actually go to sleep every night knowing that all the time and effort I have spent on this account will not go to waste. Why are you telling us about in the unity version there will be 3D trees and different sounds when really, 90% of the tanki population just wants to know the answer to if our accounts will be transferred. </rant>

Edited October 13, 2015 by doduobird

[Pathfinder 1,690]

This situation was discussed with @FederalBureauFBI and six months ago.

 

Only they know the full details of what really happened.

 

I'd like to point out that you have not been acknowledged the full details of the situation, therefore you are just using your assumption of what happened, which is NOT true.

 

You assume it was an intentional act. False.

 

You assume I did it just for the crystals. False.

 

If you don't know the full details of any situation, I'd advise you not to go around spreading false information.

Considering you initially denied what happened at all, and it was in fact myself and Mia who actually raised the alarm after we saw thousands of posts on the paysheet, that's doubtful.

 

If that is so the case however, please do share your side of the story - I'm surprised you haven't yet!

 

In either case it's not a dig at you in particular, it's the system largely at fault!

Edited October 13, 2015 by Pathfinder

[Pathfinder 1,690]

Semyon's answer on page 1 is already quite clear about that. But I do want to point out something though : (see spoiler)

 

 

 

In the older days with daily rewards I kept getting DCC when I didn't need them, silly 1 day pro battle passes, useless bunch of drugs I didn't need (nitro) instead of the drugs I badly needed (repair kit) and once in a while a little amount of crystals which was fairly pathetic.

Now with daily missions a noob like me can get 2 super missions running simultaneously and get over 150k easy peasy (far more useful than the beurrk we used to get with daily rewards). Sure they did reduce it after the first few weeks it came out, but hey, daily missions is still wayyyyyyy better than daily rewards by miles and for the reasons Semyon stated I really do not mind them reducing it a bit, cause you know, I can't be too greedy when its free give-aways. (daily free- give-aways something many, so many other games don't even have out there, go try them)

---

Also

@ @joe2vega : if you feel they didn't tell you about those changes before they arrive then its high time you sub and watch each friday - saturday → https://www.youtube.com/user/tankionlineint

@ @tommybau : ^ as above but also Check this Vlog 62. Serene does explain so much about supermissions and how easy they are to make them happen more frequently with a few tricks. There's also topics in gameplay section, articles on wiki. Have a look at them and once you're done come back to this thread and tell us some more about those "shadowy policy" you're so concerned about. As for dev-to-player communications, what do you think happens in the News and Announcements section each week? Was the exclusion of the dislike button something that hindered dev-to-player interaction?

 

Are your super missions before or after the nerf?

 

I don't know about anyone else but I'm not getting anywhere near that, at all!

Edited October 13, 2015 by Pathfinder