Myths and rumours answered

Canadian_Eh · October 17, 2015

Thanks for the vlog suggestion eh, definitely transmitting that. However I do have to add that practically all questions players asked in this topic have been answered. I myself personally dedicated a week of my free time ensuring every single one was answered with the latest and most up-to-date info.

And for this we thank-you. I wasn't actually referring to you or this topic. I was referring to the game as a whole. If all the mods and admins took their jobs as seriously as you do, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. You seem to understand that although you are paid by Tanki, you are still here for the community and make it a better place. My hat off to you. Now don't let it go to your head. ;)

Lord-of-the-Snipers · October 17, 2015

the fact that you guys are complaining about posts being removed and now complaining about that just goes to show how much whining you are doing. First you say no remove posts now you comment on how one wasn't.. pick a side will ya

You clearly did... :P

No need picking sides.

It 's hard to stay neutral though: I often fail, but at least I 'm trying.

Probably also because I 'm not interested at all in a future TO job... ;)

Edited October 17, 2015 by Lord-of-the-Snipers

r_Damn_Slow0 · October 17, 2015

My point is, maybe it should. We are the customers and we have questions and Tanki hides behind the admins and mods. I truly feel sorry for you.

They stick you on the front lines and offer you no support. Nice company to work for.

Additionally, "Do we get to transfer our accounts" is , by far the #1 question on every bodies mind, in every forum. It have been 2 years and they still can't decide. I don't believe this for a second. The problem is if they say NO people will stop playing this version and stop spending all together. If they say YES people will continue to keep playing and spending money here, but the financial impact of transferring will hurt Unity. SO it is a double edged sword. They really messed up this one, I wish them luck, they are going to need it.

Most of tanki staff don't converse that well in English, e.g. some of the devs I converse with takes a whole minute to type an English sentence which you and I would type in 10 seconds. Is it efficient for them to be here? Absolutely not. That's why they relay most their communications through the CM and the admins and the mods who can answer questions more often and more promptly. Is that called hiding?

As for account transfers I answered this all too well already and Semyon did as well, and many others did on so many different threads, chats, social media etc ....

Developers are currently busy determining whether transfer will be possible or not. This is because new Tanki’s economy is being developed now, and the transfer decision will highly depend on how different this new system will be compared to the old one. Once it’s clear, we’ll make an announcement. Even if there won’t be a transfer, we’ll make sure to give TO players as many goodies as possible in the new game, we are not planning on disappointing anyone.

This question has been answered countless times already. It was mentioned in past vlogs, and even in this topic

But you people are being crazy unreal about your zeal on the matter and whatever we will answer you guys will never be satiated. Is it our fault? Heck no. What's funny is that its even already been hinted what will happen in either case and how developers will ensure current flash players won't just be let down. I think I even recall Semyon using the words "no one is planning on spitting on anyone" when moving over. A word I personally never would be using, despite my highly-criticised method of replying, but in many ways that's the correct term, and spitting on players is not what anyone intends on doing here upon moving to unity.

I even laid down a simple set of critical thinking questions for people to think about. CBB to find it, but basically :

Do you reasonably think that a small non AAA games company that develops only 1 game and has 1 source of income can allow itself to anger its customers ditching them on 1 platform and move on to another and expect that they'll get away with all the negative publicity that very widely large customer base will be voicing all over the internet, its only ground of work?

Does it make business sense to you to start a spin-off MMO game with 0 players on the counter and gamble on long-term profit hoping adverse publicity won't affect you much ?

Or does it make more business sense to simply use the already vast pool of players to kick-start a brand new game and propel it into profitability (or just break-even) as fast as possible, knowing all your investors are impatiently waiting to get a return on their investment?

M the only reason I took time to write all this is because I personally know you and respect you and all the Rusty Relics folks a lot, and it pains me to see your arguments hovering on the same level as most our younger critiques, and that is truly what makes me feel sorry, not the company you sarcastically describe as "must be nice to work for"

Canadian_Eh · October 17, 2015

I can appreciate your issues. I just want answers like everyone else. Why don't the devs and the owners talk to us. No one will talk to us besides the mods and they, like they have said many times, don't know any more than we do. Who does know more than we do? The devs and owners - yet they refuse to talk. I ASKED to speak to an owner and was flatly told no. Misinformation starts where there is no information. YOU mods don't have it so why doesn't someone talk to us that does? We see a long list of rules and punishments. We see bans and blocks. Is this all you people do? I think people love the game but would like some answers. Why can't the devs tell us when is the next sale? Why can't they tell us their plans? Why can't they tell us our tank that we just paid big money for is about to be nerfed (like me.)Surely they know. Why does everything have to be a secret? And yes I have programmed for flash and no it is not easy. Why doesn't someone say that instead of saying "it is going to be a slow process?" And if the programmers can't get things fixed what are we to believe? Just asking.

>>>> At the risk of sounding racist and disrepectful, we need to remember that many of the Developers grew up in a communist country and secrets are just a normal why of life. So it is hard for them to change they way they do things.

>>>> A better question is, if introducing an update, that really wasn't necessary, caused the lag then why not just remove the update? Well I guess one could assume that quality game play is less important then making more money. We can just add this to the long list of failed updates, broken promises, and STILL unsolved issues.

Edited October 17, 2015 by Canadian_Eh

canadarules · October 17, 2015

1. you need to explain more about premium.it is extremely unclear to many still.

2.you should not give thigns to people freely but atleast rewards should make some sense.there are plenty of mines and speed boosts in rewards.seriously..nobody wants these.do not tell me these rewards are randomly generated.

3.trust me you did yourself a bad thing by giving massive rewards at first.because once you give something good.you dont need to change.it it creates negetivity

1. Peremium is something that you can pay for if you so choose but you can play for free.. below are what the advantages are to having this:

1.5 times more crystal reward for yourself after the battle (for instance you get 100 crystals from a battle without premium but someone with it will get 150 crystals with premium)(aka in that situation you get 50 more crystals)

1.5 times the experience in battles aka you get 1000 score in a battle but your bar at the top will show 1500 exp so you would get an additional 500 exp not in battle but to your experience bar sort of like the Score multiplayer pass

Chance to buy and use XT items and keep them forever (I think you keep them forever if you buy them that part is unclear still)

A paint with 15% protection from all turrets and mines (no one will use this paint seriously and it will be banned from tournaments most likely)

I believe that is all that is in premium

2. rewards aren't free 0.o You have to work for them especially the special misssions.. i just finished my 9999 kills one after 3 months.. not easy ok

plus it is 50 50 chance for crystals or supplies well 49.5 49.5 at genrealissmo with 1 percent going to super missions... who cares if it is speed boost... those are good for wasp (trust me people can't shoot in this game) anyways i agree speedboost is less used by should be used to get to the enemy base which no one does.. by the time you get there you can active whatever is needed

3. yea they did do a bad thing giving so much at the start, although it was making more play but it had to be cut by a bit.. 0.3 would have been more fair IMO but meh.. it is what it is

canadarules · October 17, 2015

You clearly did... :P

No need picking sides.

It 's hard to stay neutral though: I often fail, but at least I 'm trying.

Probably also because I 'm not interested at all in a future TO job... ;)

its not an easy job trust me, it is more frustrating if i had to guess. You have to make decisions everyday, some that will backfire on you and get you complaints from people like why you close my topic or why did you close this.. also you might get messages for banning someone for the right reason(probably not suppose to talk about this..whatever)... anyways nothing is as easy as it looks in the end

r_Damn_Slow0 · October 17, 2015

1. you need to explain more about premium.it is extremely unclear to many still.

2.you should not give thigns to people freely but atleast rewards should make some sense.there are plenty of mines and speed boosts in rewards.seriously..nobody wants these.do not tell me these rewards are randomly generated.

3.trust me you did yourself a bad thing by giving massive rewards at first.because once you give something good.you dont need to change.it it creates negetivity

All in due time and a little birdy tells me its just a matter of a few days :) Lil patience my friend
Well they are randomly generated. But if you feel it needs tweaking, then please, by all means make a case in this section : Ideas and Suggestions explain what you've been getting too much, what too little, how it should be balanced. Please make sure its a sound proposal and make it all neat and clear. This way it just won't get closed accidentally or intentionally by thinking its just another topic made by a younger player that doesn't explain much and / or contribute much to the idea they're trying to push.
true dat :) like one of the devs say, they've been given too much ice-cream and now are making a scene all over the supermarket floor in front of everyone just cause this one time mummy said no :)

Jokes aside, personally I think the same mistakes won't be repeated. As already revealed by some devs, the persons who made these preposterous decisions back then are no longer in office. Its just sad that we still have to deal with the ones they spoiled :(

ajitvik · October 17, 2015

1. Peremium is something that you can pay for if you so choose but you can play for free.. below are what the advantages are to having this:

1.5 times more crystal reward for yourself after the battle (for instance you get 100 crystals from a battle without premium but someone with it will get 150 crystals with premium)(aka in that situation you get 50 more crystals)

1.5 times the experience in battles aka you get 1000 score in a battle but your bar at the top will show 1500 exp so you would get an additional 500 exp not in battle but to your experience bar sort of like the Score multiplayer pass

Chance to buy and use XT items and keep them forever (I think you keep them forever if you buy them that part is unclear still)

A paint with 15% protection from all turrets and mines (no one will use this paint seriously and it will be banned from tournaments most likely)

I believe that is all that is in premium

2. rewards aren't free 0.o You have to work for them especially the special misssions.. i just finished my 9999 kills one after 3 months.. not easy ok

plus it is 50 50 chance for crystals or supplies well 49.5 49.5 at genrealissmo with 1 percent going to super missions... who cares if it is speed boost... those are good for wasp (trust me people can't shoot in this game) anyways i agree speedboost is less used by should be used to get to the enemy base which no one does.. by the time you get there you can active whatever is needed

3. yea they did do a bad thing giving so much at the start, although it was making more play but it had to be cut by a bit.. 0.3 would have been more fair IMO but meh.. it is what it is

i am not trying to be nosey or something but the rewards have really gone down man..the speed boosts as you have correctly pointed is an important supply but is it important that we get the speed or mines everyday?it is rare that i have ever got all 3 missions with repair kits.i know this will unbalance the game a little bit but then we have more of speedboosts than any other supply as rewards.does that not also create imbalance?

(this is the first time i have actively written something on forums about the game and the gameplay) because i feel over a period of time.tanki is becoming a proper freemium game.it wasnt the case few years ago.saddens me to see the ascent froma proper free game to a freemium one.

what are your views on mines? mines are also one supply given like donuts...i am not agaisnt mines but in an active attackingg ame.mines are the least used supplies specially after freeze was nerfed to an extent.

i will still tell you since you work for them.it is not hard to understand what the company is doing here.they do something and then they undo it.it is becoming a habit.

be it XT then premium

be it a sale and then nerfing the turret.

do you remember how vulcan was nerfed right after a massive sale on it?we spend money on the game to enjoy and i understand the company wants to balance the game.but why not a sale after the nerfing?why before it..?

beats me !!

Edited October 17, 2015 by ajitvik

Canadian_Eh · October 17, 2015

Most of tanki staff don't converse that well in English, There are more then enough that do, and if not find someone that can.

e.g. some of the devs I converse with takes a whole minute to type an English sentence which you and I would type in 10 seconds. Is it efficient for them to be here? Absolutely not. That's why they relay most their communications through the CM and the admins and the mods who can answer questions more often and more promptly. Is that called hiding?

As for account transfers I answered this all too well already and Semyon did as well, and many others did on so many different threads, chats, social media etc ....

But you people are being crazy unreal about your zeal on the matter and whatever we will answer you guys will never be satiated. Come on, 2 years to figure that out. I don't believe they don't know.

Is it our fault? Heck no. What's funny is that its even already been hinted what will happen in either case and how developers will ensure current flash players won't just be let down. I think I even recall Semyon using the words "no one is planning on spitting on anyone" when moving over. A word I personally never would be using, despite my highly-criticised method of replying, but in many ways that's the correct term, and spitting on players is not what anyone intends on doing here upon moving to unity.

I even laid down a simple set of critical thinking questions for people to think about. CBB to find it, but basically :

Do you reasonably think that a small non AAA games company that develops only 1 game and has 1 source of income can allow itself to anger its customers ditching them on 1 platform and move on to another and expect that they'll get away with all the negative publicity that very widely large customer base will be voicing all over the internet, its only ground of work?

Does it make business sense to you to start a spin-off MMO game with 0 players on the counter and gamble on long-term profit hoping adverse publicity won't affect you much ?

Or does it make more business sense to simply use the already vast pool of players to kick-start a brand new game and propel it into profitability (or just break-even) as fast as possible, knowing all your investors are impatiently waiting to get a return on their investment?

M the only reason I took time to write all this is because I personally know you and respect you and all the Rusty Relics folks a lot, and it pains me to see your arguments hovering on the same level as most our younger critiques, and that is truly what makes me feel sorry, not the company you sarcastically describe as "must be nice to work for"

No disrespect to you but these are comments for ALL EYES, even the ones that won't be responding. Consider me to be the voice for the masses then. I don't think I have said anything that everyone else isn't already thinking and discussing in lots of private places, out of the public eye. Tanki HQ created this mess, Sami just got people thinking and now we are simply saying what needs to be said. Many of us "mature" players have been quite far too long already. I am not stupid and can read between the lines. It is a fact that Tanki HQ doesn't offer you the support you need or deserve. So I will re-word what I said, I wouldn't want to work for Tanki. I couldn't handle that level of disrespect.

Edited October 17, 2015 by Canadian_Eh

Lord-of-the-Snipers · October 17, 2015

Most of tanki staff don't converse that well in English, e.g. some of the devs I converse with takes a whole minute to type an English sentence which you and I would type in 10 seconds. Is it efficient for them to be here? Absolutely not. That's why they relay most their communications through the CM and the admins and the mods who can answer questions more often and more promptly. Is that called hiding?

No, but they should imo be more present during and even on forehand to explain why certain things like updates etc. happen.

Not the usual very late reaction afterwards.

As for account transfers I answered this all too well already and Semyon did as well, and many others did on so many different threads, chats, social media etc ....

But you people are being crazy unreal about your zeal on the matter and whatever we will answer you guys will never be satiated. Is it our fault? Heck no. What's funny is that its even already been hinted what will happen in either case and how developers will ensure current flash players won't just be let down. I think I even recall Semyon using the words "no one is planning on spitting on anyone" when moving over. A word I personally never would be using, despite my highly-criticised method of replying, but in many ways that's the correct term, and spitting on players is not what anyone intends on doing here upon moving to unity. I understand what you are saying, but as long as nothing is concrete, a lot of Tankers will not be reassured by words including myself.

I like to remember you (way too obvious I admit :P ) we were once told our accounts would be transferrable...

So trusting words isn 't that easy.

I even laid down a simple set of critical thinking questions for people to think about. CBB to find it, but basically :

Do you reasonably think that a small non AAA games company that develops only 1 game and has 1 source of income can allow itself to anger its customers ditching them on 1 platform and move on to another and expect that they'll get away with all the negative publicity that very widely large customer base will be voicing all over the internet, its only ground of work?

Does it make business sense to you to start a spin-off MMO game with 0 players on the counter and gamble on long-term profit hoping adverse publicity won't affect you much ?

Or does it make more business sense to simply use the already vast pool of players to kick-start a brand new game and propel it into profitability (or just break-even) as fast as possible, knowing all your investors are impatiently waiting to get a return on their investment?

Your idea what might happen in the last option makes indeed the most sense. Hopefully your bosses have the same mindset.

Personally I already made up my mind: if TO makes accounts transferrable our gives a reasonable compensation I will be on

Unity and leave Flash. Flash has seen it 's best days.

Good chance I will invest some money like I once did in TO Flash.

If TO doesn 't or gives a bad compensation I will still go to TO Unity, but in that case I will become a 100% non-buyer.

Even than I will still contribute to TO Unity because buyers and a lot more non-buyers will be needed to make a viable game.

But I will clearly not be willing to spend one penny to a company that in that worse case scenario would clearly not deserve it.

Edited October 17, 2015 by Lord-of-the-Snipers

r_Damn_Slow0 · October 17, 2015

I don't have any idea why you 2 still continue to defend Tanki. Well, actually I do have an idea but I won't be disrespectful.

I know you have gone to the devs on repeated occasions trying to get things fixed and nothing happens. Yele asked over a year ago to get something done about /vote. I had sent her an idea, which by the way I went ahead and made for myself, and she liked it and informed me that she has already requested something to be done. SO here we are today, and we are still stuck with this pathetic excuse for a reporting system and just doesn't work.

No myth, no rumor, only the truth, the developers don't listen to you either.

And for this we thank-you. I wasn't actually referring to you or this topic. I was referring to the game as a whole. If all the mods and admins took their jobs as seriously as you do, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. You seem to understand that although you are paid by Tanki, you are still here for the community and make it a better place. My hat off to you. Now don't let it go to your head. ;)

Not nice, these 2 girls do a terrific job for you all, and hell lot more behind the scenes that you guys have no idea of. Don't cross that line, or you will get a typical Damn_Slow answer of the kind that I so far hasn't posted in this corner of the internet yet. And no buddy, I'm not being paid a single penny to be tanki's PR here, not even a damn little crystal for the matter, and I would not hesitate 1 moment if certain boundaries are crossed. So lets just not go there ! :)

As for the proposed Kick-2 system, you did have that talk with me too, and this will infuriate you a lot, you think so highly of it but it really is just sub-par and so many things have not been considered in it. In fact I still remember my first comment on that topic, and since then it has progressed I reckon, but it went from craddle to sandbox. That's why it was never implemented. And the truth is much more elaborate plans have been thought about well before Kick-2, but there are many technical reasons why they weren't achieved. Several of these same reasons are behind the push to unity.

Now if you want the high level and low level programming jibber jabber about that, you can pm the rude, people-skills-lacking dev you're so fond of, but something tells me you'll never be satisfied with his answer anyway.

Canadian_Eh · October 17, 2015

Your idea what might happen in the last option makes indeed the most sense. Hopefully your bosses have the same mindset.

(Personally I already made up my mind: if TO makes accounts transferrable our gives a reasonable compensation I will be on

Unity and leave Flash. Flash has seen it 's best days.

Good chance I will invest some money like I once did in TO Flash.

If TO doesn 't or gives a bad compensation I will still go to TO Unity, but in that case I will become a 100% non-buyer.

Even than I will still contribute to TO Unity because buyers and a lot more non-buyers will be needed to make a viable game)

I, as well, have already made up my mind.

I'm no longer supporting this version for 2 reasons. 1. The future is to unclear. 2. The low level of professionalism at Tanki HQ and level of disrespect for the EN community makes it very difficult to support them.
If they transfer or give us good compensation AND change they way they do some things, I will move to Unity and must likely will start to support them again.
If they "spit" in our faces, I and my money will leave Tanki permanently. I already have another game in mind that needs some support.

Yele · October 17, 2015

I do not want to annoy you all, but I must remind to you all that Tanki Online is a Company, not only an Online Game.
Tanki Online, as a Company, has its own strategy which will not be revealed and it is fine as it is - you do not see Companies revealing their marketing plans and strategies in your everyday lifes.

Those famous videos from last week are the plain example of what may happen when someone is aware of the 0.00001% of the complete truth: in the exact moment he / she will not obtain what he / she wanted, he / she will use that 0.00001% of truth to manipulate and spread false informations on his / her own will, trying to damage Others.

I saw really many messages in the past days, but the ones I noticed the most were repeating the same thing over and over: "There is a lack of communication between users and Developers" - this is not true.
News are given on the Forum, on the Wiki (http://en.tankiwiki.com/Development_Plans) and in each new V-LOG, every week.

We will surely try to improve this situation, in fact I am planning to create a new topic called "Book of Complaints" and let you all post your suggestions regarding things you think that matter the most to improve Tanki Online behaviour towards its users.

canadarules · October 17, 2015

i am not trying to be nosey or something but the rewards have really gone down man..the speed boosts as you have correctly pointed is an important supply but is it important that we get the speed or mines everyday?it is rare that i have ever got all 3 missions with repair kits.i know this will unbalance the game a little bit but then we have more of speedboosts than any other supply as rewards.does that not also create imbalance?

(this is the first time i have actively written something on forums about the game and the gameplay) because i feel over a period of time.tanki is becoming a proper freemium game.it wasnt the case few years ago.saddens me to see the ascent froma proper free game to a freemium one.

what are your views on mines? mines are also one supply given like donuts...i am not agaisnt mines but in an active attackingg ame.mines are the least used supplies specially after freeze was nerfed to an extent.

i will still tell you since you work for them.it is not hard to understand what the company is doing here.they do something and then they undo it.it is becoming a habit.

be it XT then premium

be it a sale and then nerfing the turret.

do you remember how vulcan was nerfed right after a massive sale on it?we spend money on the game to enjoy and i understand the company wants to balance the game.but why not a sale after the nerfing?why before it..?

beats me !!

really it all comes down to luck for the daily missions.. tbh i understand what you are talking about.. it seems there is a long streak of getting one or two items at once while all the time... it is odd ik but really it is coming down to percentages and thats why you can change it... complete your missions each day to have the best chance to get what you want

mines are useful for attack and defense, they should be used when you are being rammed by another enemy as that enemy is moving towards you and if you plant a mine while moving back they will run on it.. each supply has a use for itself in the game

Mines- to kill or weaken people attacking you or the base

Speed boost: used to get to another persons base and also only has 15 second reload for other supplies

the rest are pretty much common sense when to use

i don't work for staff .-.

i am just here as a troll and common sense person.. i understand that many don't see both sides of the story and tbh they listen to a couple of things and don't see the big picture and like to sometimes miss words purposely.. i having play on a game where there is premium, i understand what they are doing

i also speak English as my first language so i can help other who don't speak it as their first that much

the devs had actually told everyone that all turrets would be nerfed since they had bumped their stats up and alot of turrets had been nerfed.

not sure what sale you are talking about...

creeperskelly · October 17, 2015

I do not want to annoy you all, but I must remind to you all that Tanki Online is a Company, not only an Online Game.

Tanki Online, as a Company, has its own strategy which will not be revealed and it is fine as it is - you do not see Companies revealing their marketing plans and strategies in your everyday lifes.

I saw really many messages in the past days, but the ones I noticed the most were repeating the same thing over and over: "There is a lack of communication between users and Developers" - this is not true.

News are given on the Forum, on the Wiki (http://en.tankiwiki.com/Development_Plans) and in each new V-LOG, every week.

Why was "Premium Accounts" left out of the Wiki?

Test drives and personal discounts were left out as well.

Since it seems to be an important idea why leave it out?

See, things like this are what cause miscommunication.

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In response to people talking about missions your chance overall of getting a repair kit is 6% of all rewards - speed boost is around 42%. At the level of Field Marshal you can expect about 50,000 crystals or so in earnings simply by doing the missions each month - I would call that a great deal compared to the small amount we might have gotten through the Daily Gifts.

Edited October 17, 2015 by creeperskelly

Canadian_Eh · October 17, 2015

Not nice, these 2 girls do a terrific job for you all, and hell lot more behind the scenes that you guys have no idea of. Don't cross that line, or you will get a typical Damn_Slow answer of the kind that I so far hasn't posted in this corner of the internet yet. And no buddy, I'm not being paid a single penny to be tanki's PR here, not even a damn little crystal for the matter, and I would not hesitate 1 moment if certain boundaries are crossed. So lets just not go there ! :)

As for the proposed Kick-2 system, you did have that talk with me too, and this will infuriate you a lot, you think so highly of it but it really is just sub-par and so many things have not been considered in it. In fact I still remember my first comment on that topic, and since then it has progressed I reckon, but it went from craddle to sandbox. That's why it was never implemented. And the truth is much more elaborate plans have been thought about well before Kick-2, but there are many technical reasons why they weren't achieved. Several of these same reasons are behind the push to unity.

Now if you want the high level and low level programming jibber jabber about that, you can pm the rude, people-skills-lacking dev you're so fond of, but something tells me you'll never be satisfied with his answer anyway.

Fine we won't discuss the relationship between Tanki HQ and the Admins. However, I will say this, even though they do an outstanding job with what they are given to work with, they deserve more and we deserve more.

As for Kick-2, opinions vary, I can accept that. But I wasn't even referring to it, I was referring to the AHK script, I wrote, that allows for a much more intuitive and user friendly way of using their useless slash vote system. >> http://en.tankiforum.com/index.php?showtopic=259573

OK let me get this straight. They come up with a much more elaborate plan to replace /vote, but couldn't make it work so just gave up and abandoned the whole idea. Why didn't they just do something a little more simple, instead of leaving us with nothing but a useless system and ruined battles? (See if you can get an actual real response from someone on the development team for this answer.) Mults and violators are one of the biggest complaints, ruin game play for SO many and yet they do nothing about it. But this isn't the first time they just abandoned what they couldn't get working. We have /vote, changing of camera speed, mouse controls and early battle ending, just to name a few. These are all things that negatively effect game play but don't negatively effect profits, in fact some may actually increase profits. So, I guess people can make their own assumptions. I'm not saying anything.

drazeruzumaki · October 17, 2015

people easy easy here , short answers plz

the stories and chapters in my books are long enough :blink:

Moraine · October 17, 2015

Why was "Premium Accounts" left out of the Wiki?

It isn't: http://en.tankiwiki.com/Premium_Accounts

Please search before asking.

creeperskelly · October 17, 2015

I was referring to the "Development Plans."

Besides, that page you referred to was just created a week ago.

Edited October 17, 2015 by creeperskelly

Moraine · October 17, 2015

Besides, that page you referred to was just created a week ago.

Exactly! As I said, we do try to give you the latest info as fast and as accurate as we can.

Canadian_Eh · October 17, 2015

I do not want to annoy you all, but I must remind to you all that Tanki Online is a Company, not only an Online Game.

Tanki Online, as a Company, has its own strategy which will not be revealed and it is fine as it is - you do not see Companies revealing their marketing plans and strategies in your everyday lifes.

Those famous videos from last week are the plain example of what may happen when someone is aware of the 0.00001% of the complete truth: in the exact moment he / she will not obtain what he / she wanted, he / she will use that 0.00001% of truth to manipulate and spread false informations on his / her own will, trying to damage Others.

I saw really many messages in the past days, but the ones I noticed the most were repeating the same thing over and over: "There is a lack of communication between users and Developers" - this is not true.

News are given on the Forum, on the Wiki (http://en.tankiwiki.com/Development_Plans) and in each new V-LOG, every week.

We will surely try to improve this situation, in fact I am planning to create a new topic called "Book of Complaints" and let you all post your suggestions regarding things you think that matter the most to improve Tanki Online behaviour towards its users.

>>>>> That is NOT communication, that is nothing more them announcements. Sorry, to point out the truth. Communication is a 2 way conversation. Do these look like 2 way conversations to you?

>>>>> Excellent idea. I would suggest you make it "pre-moderation" and hire a few more mods for that topic. There will be a lot of posts on that one. But my question is, who's going to read it? Because unless the devs read it, it will be pointless. Just like the I&S section.

I would also like to point out that "the lack of communication" is with the owners and developers of this game NOT the admins and mods. If the admins and mods don't know the answers then there is no point in discussing anything with you. No disrespect to you or your opinions, but it is true that, unless you can do anything about game issues then anything we discuss is a waste of time but may still be fun. ;)

October 17, 2015

I was referring to the "Development Plans."

Besides, that page you referred to was just created a week ago.

The page "http://en.tankiwiki.com/Development_Plans" on the Wiki represents only a part of all the plans from the Devs and it is updated following DIRECT informations given by them.

I personally receive informations by the Devs and update it with the official informations they provide me - all what is there represents all what users need to know in a certain moment, nothing less and nothing more.

Also, as stated by @Yele above, Tanki Online is a Company and, as a Company, it will not reveal all its plans and strategies for the future - it is common for Companies to do so and they have the right to do so.

For what concern the page "http://en.tankiwiki.com/Premium_Accounts" - that page was made straight after V-LOG 63 was out to show a completely and easy-to-read list of Premium Accounts' infos and features, but it is not even near to a definitive version since, on Tanki Online Wiki, new pages are made ONLY after official releases and updates, the page you are looking at is a mere preview to help users in understanding PAs.

For what concern the other things you mentioned - pages over them are being prepared, I still need to gather the needed infos ;)

creeperskelly · October 17, 2015

Exactly! As I said, we do try to give you the latest info as fast and as accurate as we can.

This is what we've been referring to - obviously it's not your fault if you are being kept in the dark as well - nobody is blaming the mods or helpers if you don't know anything either. But someone needs to understand higher up that keeping people in the dark about important aspects of the game isn't a great way to keep and build a loyal customer base.

We get snowballed on so many updates/changes that it's creating quite a concern to the point where many are leery of investing anything further in this version of the game.

r_Damn_Slow0 · October 17, 2015

yele, ostrica, issho, don't bother lads. You are all incompetent admins and cannot give @creeperskelly what he seeks. He seeks all full final information about a system that is still being developed and demands that those information have been posted on the wiki last year!! -_-

drazeruzumaki · October 17, 2015

^thnx for giving the summary since i was not reading the long essays

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