Myths and rumours answered

[Heles 9,220]

well ok

[drazeruzumaki 5,021]

where is my chicken :(

[beaku 2,656]

:D haii,, dude, I too had my reserves on that particular freeze nerf, but knowing that it messed ostrica's game so much imma go buy devs a nice bouquet :lol: :lol:

Wait.. Wut? :O... Just wait.. I ro call Ostrica..

[drazeruzumaki 5,021]

run run, coming :o  :o

 

Edited November 9, 2015 by drazeruzumaki

[Moraine 5,877]

[drazeruzumaki 5,021]

^ asuna!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no one, im crying

asunaa!!!!

asunaa!!!!

noooooasunaaa

 

 

 

 

Edited November 9, 2015 by drazeruzumaki

[racer22_online 206]

Thanks for the response from Damn_Slow - an example of how to respectfully answer our concerns - I thank you Sir.

 

Probably the number one reason I choose to chase this 'imbalance problem' is because I believe that any successful company needs to listen to it's user base - and when I saw how a large group was effectively being ignored to the point of annoyance - then it made me curious which planet the leaders come from.

 

Sometimes I find it's because the middle management think they're doing the senior management a favour.  Then when a senior person eventually gets the message they wonder why it took so long to get through!

 

My book on sales technique tells me to always speak to the Managing Director - because he's (or she) is the only one that makes big decisions.  (Some companies make it easier to get to the MD than others.)

 

Two changes that have no effect on the game mechanics:

1.         Double the smart cooldown time (this is only a parameter change) - Tanki have already adjusted the smart cooldown time on Health Packs - they can do the same on the other power ups.

2.         Show the total amount of supplies used by each tank each game on the score board.   We know that Tanki already keep these totals - but if shown on the scoreboard this will embarrass 'many' players into not using so many!  Plus we get to know who has skills and who is being assisted by power ups.

 

In a 'vacuum' of response the best guess we can make is that TO management will not do either of the above (even as an OPTION) for fear of losing income from Supplies Kits.

If TO Management can confirm this then we can focus all our effort on helping Tanki find alternative income streams.

 

 

I welcome the news that more competitions are in the planning - especially those which are not just XP/BP.

Light tanks / medium tank / heavy tanks all these make sense.

 

Please remember that many of us just play 'as and when' and cannot commit to a clan.

 

I.e. we need some sort of random competitions in which players gravitate upwards based on results to some sort of final.  The UK Squash league mechanism shows a way that this can be organised.  (Maybe we can put our name forward for an hour timeslot and the machine randomly puts you in a game).

 

Also remember that it's not good putting e.g. Generals against Gismos - we need 'gradings' of equipment to help level the playing field - or perhaps some sort of 'booster' where players with lower equipment can use more power-ups per game.

 

Also remember that Tanki have been 'unwilling' to hold a poll on how many of us are annoyed by the imbalance of supply usage.

It's quite possible that > 80% of tankers are annoyed by this from time to time.  That's a big number and should be properly tested (and I think best if we can choose what we want in the game, so we can vote with our feet which includes those who don't use the forum.)  (In practice, Pro Mode is not usable - except for Parkour, XP/BP or small maps.

 

On the other hand many of us have found ways to deal with Tanki games:

1.         Treat the game like a 'dog eat dog' world - "nobody said life had to be fair" (i.e. small fry must hide from the powerful and the killers can simply crush everyone!)

2.         Treat all standard games as a training ground from which to graduate to eSport when the opportunity arises (hopefully made accessible to more ranks?)

3.         Declare in the chat that some games are 'low drug use' or 'full drug only' games and complain to anyone seen breaking the rule.

4.         Choose battles carefully - the druggers are easy to spot by the high scores.

5.         Have fun.

 

 

On the Kick2 process - I appreciate that any 'kick' mechanism is a potential minefield for many reasons - but the least Tanki could have done is say they're aware of the requirement and have not been able to implement a solution at present (however, will keep under review.)

Edited November 9, 2015 by racer22_online

[beaku 2,656]

I have a counter argument for each of your proposals, racer22_online, but I'll let this one pass. Am too lazy :p

[viratno2 146]

No comment. No. Comment.

Anyway racers suggestions are practical for the game. Please make a poll someone on drug usage.

[I.WalkAlone 548]

Why has the brazilian admininstration made it possible to apply for spectator and creative league membership? Shouldn't their policies be similar to that of the other communities? Or is this somehow related to a lesser Brazilian playerbase?

[beaku 2,656]

Why has the brazilian admininstration made it possible to apply for spectator and creative league membership? Shouldn't their policies be similar to that of the other communities? Or is this somehow related to a lesser Brazilian playerbase?

Even EN community could once apply for Creative League and spectator mode. They're just a new community.

[I.WalkAlone 548]

Even EN community could once apply for Creative League and spectator mode. They're just a new community.

Yes, I knew that the EN community could once apply for spectator mode and creative league membership. I've been here for two years. But, the past isn't relevant in this case. They're doing it entirely different. When the EN players could apply for the Creative League, it was through a contest where you had to edit a pic and add 100 tanks to it. Au contraire, the BR version of the Creative League has two sections: those who edit images and those who create videos. And you can directly apply to them, which isn't the case here. As for spectator mode, you can apply over there by leaving a post in the forum as compared to how we had to apply using a Google form. Also, the BR creative league page isn't mentioned in the EN, RU and DE Creative League pages and vice versa. It's like they've got an entirely different system. And no, they're not a new community. It's been over a year since the launch of the BR community. I just want to know if they've got a different system than the others and if so, why?

[Star.Star.Star 33]

All staff members, new or old, have their individuality. They do dislike some updates in one way or other but you can't expect them to open huge topics and blab about them and say that devs are bad...etc. They have a responsibility, a duty to be done. In the end, they are as affected by an update as any of us.

Just an example

your example is only 1% look to all mods posts in noob updates, they dont need to say devs are bad they can say the update is bad, i only hate when i see many mods post {very nice update} and {very good job} in forum. In game they talk to friends and say i dont like the update, this is not good  <_< this is why i suggested mods to never comment its better than lying. lying is not good!!

 

Stop it now!

why m8? let us enjoy !!!!   :lol: L0L

 

Is it true the developers have no concerns other than Unity and money?

True because Unity makes people stronger lol no no joke i mean Money will bring more drinks to devs  :wacko:

more drinks will bring more updates (more bad ones?) <3

Edited November 10, 2015 by Star.Star.Star

[Star.Star.Star 33]

thabestq8 is that you man? *hugs* dude! you've been gone a while man, we missed you. Well I missed you a lot buddy, it got a bit boring here without you man :( But I'm glad you're back :) We can be good buddy bud bud buddies again like the good old times now :D also that @beaku guy i quoted below gave you the perfect answer, like who does he think he is man. like these people brah, i swear, sometimes i don't why they be hating on good buddies like us man, it just ain't cool man :(

yes i am that GREAT man :wub:  :wub:  :wub:  and i am not back, i only was on youtube and one of tanki videos was recommended to me and i watched than the next video it moved alone to youtuber video title Tanki paid me CASH to keep secrets :lol: :lol: lol i real liked it and i said to myself whats going on!!! im missing great stuff i must go to forum and i must participate in the HOT NEWS in tanki i must be with the justice m8s :D i know im little late but its ok  ^_^ me nice?  :ph34r: damn_slow its a bit boring? ok i come back next year in 2016 first month hh BE PATIENT pls m8 patience buddy KkKkKkKkK 

 

when king back нубы people run :$ to be honest i miss trolling justcoal mod hhhh 

Edited November 10, 2015 by Star.Star.Star

[beaku 2,656]

Yes, I knew that the EN community could once apply for spectator mode and creative league membership. I've been here for two years. But, the past isn't relevant in this case. They're doing it entirely different. When the EN players could apply for the Creative League, it was through a contest where you had to edit a pic and add 100 tanks to it. Au contraire, the BR version of the Creative League has two sections: those who edit images and those who create videos. And you can directly apply to them, which isn't the case here. As for spectator mode, you can apply over there by leaving a post in the forum as compared to how we had to apply using a Google form. Also, the BR creative league page isn't mentioned in the EN, RU and DE Creative League pages and vice versa. It's like they've got an entirely different system. And no, they're not a new community. It's been over a year since the launch of the BR community. I just want to know if they've got a different system than the others and if so, why?

Yeah, the system differs a bit, so what? Big deal! Is it seriously that big a problem if you have to apply through Google forms instead of forum? :/

Look at Chinese community, they've got an entirely separate game. Since the Brazilians have a different server too, it only makes sense if they have systems different from ours. (Trust me, those differences are negligible)

[I.WalkAlone 548]

Yeah, the system differs a bit, so what? Big deal! Is it seriously that big a problem if you have to apply through Google forms instead of forum? :/

Look at Chinese community, they've got an entirely separate game. Since the Brazilians have a different server too, it only makes sense if they have systems different from ours. (Trust me, those differences are negligible)

Yes, the spectator thingy is not a big deal. I was quoting examples to show that the system is different. The differences don't really matter to me, I'm just curious to know the reasons. The differences in the Chinese version is understandable cause of the restrictive laws over there. As far as I know, this is not the case with Brazil. So... yeah.

[Guest]

I was quoting examples to show that the system is different. The differences don't really matter to me, I'm just curious to know the reasons.

There are differences due to the fact that each Community works as a separated group, they communicate and work in the same "direction" (RU, EN, DE and sometimes BR), but they do not share the same system for managing things, not always at least  :)

[NewbieCake 3,067]

There seems to be word that Tanki X isn't adding a CP mode. Can someone elaborate as to why they are doing this? Or are they working on the mode?

[Guest]

There seems to be word that Tanki X isn't adding a CP mode. Can someone elaborate as to why they are doing this? Or are they working on the mode?

Sorry, we do not have further informations over Tanki X, we are not able to answer this kind of question as of now :)

[r_Damn_Slow0 12,476]

Two changes that have no effect on the game mechanics:

1.         Double the smart cooldown time (this is only a parameter change) - Tanki have already adjusted the smart cooldown time on Health Packs - they can do the same on the other power ups.

2.         Show the total amount of supplies used by each tank each game on the score board.   We know that Tanki already keep these totals - but if shown on the scoreboard this will embarrass 'many' players into not using so many!  Plus we get to know who has skills and who is being assisted by power ups.

1 - Smart Cooldowns have been and is still being constantly monitored to find the right balance.  If the cooldown times are set too high it makes the use of drugs useless.  If its set too low then the game turns into a nightmare.  Right now the parameters are in the sweet spot when looking at the game from a global point of view.  But as the gaming masses evolve in their strategies that will very likely have the tendency shift to one side or the other (too much or too little cooldowns) and therefore will again need some little tweaking to get back to that sweet spot.  That will also be tied into the entropic unbalancing of the whole game as the gaming masses evolve in their skills and strategies.  

 

2- Not happening ever!  There's people who don't want to divulge how many drugs they have.  This is sensitive information for them and their game-play.  Don't take my word for it, go on any top tier clan and look at the pictures, they always censor out the number of drugs they possess.

 

 "embarass players into not using powerups" !?!!?!  :huh:  Normally that's where I put a sarcastic line, but, having come from an old old team that had this as its core code of conduct and operation I do understand that like us in the old days there's a lot of players out there who take pride in  without the use of drugs.  And seriously, if you want to play non-drug games then use the PRO battle pass, go to RU2 and have a blast 

Also reason why PRO pass is not free is because PRO users generally have a different gaming mentality than the non PRO users, and talk to any experienced PRO user and they'll all be against making these free.  Cause then it will get all these newbs into their games and they won't be respecting the same etiquette as they have been for years.  Also the gaming style is sooooo different.  

[r_Damn_Slow0 12,476]

I.e. we need some sort of random competitions in which players gravitate upwards based on results to some sort of final.  The UK Squash league mechanism shows a way that this can be organised.  (Maybe we can put our name forward for an hour timeslot and the machine randomly puts you in a game).

 

Also remember that it's not good putting e.g. Generals against Gismos - we need 'gradings' of equipment to help level the playing field - or perhaps some sort of 'booster' where players with lower equipment can use more power-ups per game.

 

On the Kick2 process - I appreciate that any 'kick' mechanism is a potential minefield for many reasons - but the least Tanki could have done is say they're aware of the requirement and have not been able to implement a solution at present (however, will keep under review.)

heheh, I too was looking at squash league system a while back, among various other sport system across various disciplines :)  The "get online, get a prompt tournament, enter, go, exit" thing is something we've all been wanting for a long long time.  We won't see it this year.  But there's big plans for all of that with automated systems next year.  We'll have to wait and see

 

Same goes for equipment restrictions.  We can for now do it with clan tournaments and enforce rules on restrictions, but for broader games involving all sorts of players it will have to be systemic lock on equipment players can use in these battles, much like xp/bp formats are at present, but much more elaborate.  That too is planned, but not for this year I'm afraid.

 

As for kick, please see the second part of this post of mine or alternatively for the full story about those search this very thread for 'kick'

 

[swede1 1,726]

heheh,

 

That "Sign Out" button looks awful tempting, doesn't it :D

[racer22_online 206]

Once again - thanks Damn_Slow

 

You're a fine ambassador for Tanki, you restore my faith in the ability for Tanki to listen.

 

I agree it's always hard, if not impossible, to please everyone.

 

Even better you see the potential for an easy access eSport - I feel Tanki can easily be up there with the best.

I have had some of the best fun in Tanki compared to any participation sport /game you can mention, long may it continue.

 

I agree that players do not like being embarrassed - that's why ultimately we need larger numbers of players so Tanki can afford to give the sportsman players a level playing field separate from those who need the help of power ups.

 

By the way, Pro Mode does not offer a mode to 'reduce' Garage Supply use (you have to set it to zero and just keep air drops on) - I would find it valuable to allow say 3 mines per 15 mins and 3 health packs per 15 mins to give me a chance at Gold box time (somebody often shoots before the gold box arrives!)  This is why I don't like zero garage supplies battles - I want 'reduced garage supplies' battles with equal amounts per side.

 

On SCD (Smart Cool Down) parameters (which are easy to adjust in view of Unity dev.) - I don't agree that the balance is right for the majority of Tankers.  The balance is right for encouraging the purchase of supplies kits which suits Tanki finances.  If Tanki let Tankers choose the parameters then the majority would vote for longer SCD times.  Why not try this as an experiment each week and see what we prefer? - say 4 options over 4 weeks and then give us a vote.

 

I have bought my Pro Mode pass for the last 6 months - but cannot use it on the maps I want to play on and yes I have sat on my own on Kungur - or fighting only 1 or 2 tanks.

This is because very few people own a Pro Mode pass.  I agree at Brigadier rank and above it's not expensive - it costs me about 3 hours battling per month.

It's 'chicken and egg' - no-one will buy a Pro Mode pass until there are plenty of battles to join.  RU2 is mostly small maps, all Gismos or Parkour.

 

You did not answer my question on why we cannot have a vote to see how many players would like to see a level playing field regarding the use of power ups in the standard game.

The question I would ask is: Do you believe the over-use of garage supplies is causing too much imbalance in Tanki - YES / NO?

 

Then I would ask: Are you prepared to pay a monthly fee to have the number of garage supplies balanced to equal amounts per side YES / NO?

To do the latter will probably need 4 times the population of tankers to cater for both Free to Play user and Subscription users.

Needless to say, my personal answer is YES to both questions.

and you won't get 4 times the number of tankers if too many potential players keep being blown away by heavy supplies users.

 

I still feel the reason why Tanki will not allow these questions to be asked is because Tanki fear a loss of revenue from Supply Kits.  Who is the person in Tanki who really knows the answer to this question?  It's a Yes / No question.

 

I understand from a Vlog that Unity may have an alternate financial model - I had better watch the last 3 Vlogs to see if anything has been said?

[applications 993]

Arabian is clearly a hypocrite, he makes 3 videos on how Premium is a waist, then right when premium comes out he buys it and makes it so noone can see it, just look at his screenshots you can clearly see the bonus

[canadarules 1,938]

Arabian is clearly a hypocrite, he makes 3 videos on how Premium is a waist, then right when premium comes out he buys it and makes it so noone can see it, just look at his screenshots you can clearly see the bonus

aww thats cute, you learned that just now?

 

One thing you should learn about Tanki, it is filled of hypocrites. That is not a myth or a rumour btw :P

One day people say you are good the next they say you suck, consistent views are hard to come by in this community and it is sad.

Not saying you are one but seriously the way some people act you can tell some of them are slimy as hell (once again not saying you are one buddy :))