Is Tanki Becoming Pay-To-Play?

[Jwimmer 2,835]

Yeah, ads in a game always make the game look unprofessional and less attractive. The ads would make the game look so ugly, that I think it will actually be counterproductive as new players (potential buyers) will be repelled.

yeah, forreal. Ads would be absolutely horrendus. Tanki would prolly make it pay 5 dollars to have ads removed, resembeling free games from the apple app store. I much prefer to battle against op buyers than to see ads popping up everywhere. 

[Pistolcc 38]

Yes it is. 

It started out as really fun, went sideways and slid backwards in my opinion. 

 

I used to buy, and I can't deny the physics are still cool but when I see the stupid decisions being made I can't stand it. 

The only 'development' is copying features directly from other games like WOT Blitz.

Part of the reason I am so sore is the paints and weapons are developed in a way specifically to waste your time spent building up before the change. 

I still maintain a shotgun and a machine gun are the most banal 'new' ideas for tank weapons. They started with laser beams and ended up with shotguns... sort of sums up tankionline, which looks desperate for revenue from an overpriced low quality product.    

[Cyborg 3,189]

Its free to play but if u dream victory u need to pay

[generalmarco18 1]

I think it definitely becoming pay to win and if they (tanki) make one wrong move, they might not exist anymore

[ghost-guns 1,486]

It seems that way. Drugs are everywhere now and microupgrades are very expensive.

[KrystenHunt16 128]

Well to be honest, I did get a lot of free upgrades on my Firebird thanks to the new micro-upgrades system. Unfortunately now the upgrades are so expensive that I can't buy any more, but still...

 

Honestly though, if Premium Account players or pay-to-players are going to dominate all the battles like I've seen so far, what's the point in supporting a free-to-play model?

[ghost-guns 1,486]

Well to be honest, I did get a lot of free upgrades on my Firebird thanks to the new micro-upgrades system. Unfortunately now the upgrades are so expensive that I can't buy any more, but still...

 

Honestly though, if Premium Account players or pay-to-players are going to dominate all the battles like I've seen so far, what's the point in supporting a free-to-play model?

 

Micro-upgrades are ridiculously expensive now. I believe it will cost 1.5 million crystals to upgrade my tank, weapon and paint.

[r_R5N0 16]

no .tanki will become play-to-pay...that means..you can convert your hardly earned crystals to dolars..

[Maf 32,300]

no .tanki will become play-to-pay...that means..you can convert your hardly earned crystals to dolars..

I hope you're joking.

 

In case you're not, I'm telling you that it won't happen with any kind of free-to-play online game, because it will simply mean that players will be able to earn real money simply by playing the game. Sure, conversing crystals to money is cool and awesome, but Tanki owners can't just get real money out of thin air (unlike crystals) and give it out here and there, so allowing

crystal-->currency conversions would make the company instantly go bankrupt.

[Cyborg 3,189]

I hope you're joking.

 

In case you're not, I'm telling you that it won't happen with any kind of free-to-play online game, because it will simply mean that players will be able to earn real money simply by playing the game. Sure, conversing crystals to money is cool and awesome, but Tanki owners can't just get real money out of thin air (unlike crystals) and give it out here and there, so allowing

crystal-->currency conversions would make the company instantly go bankrupt.

 

Ofcourse he was kidding who would say that

[Maf 32,300]

Ofcourse he was kidding who would say that

I've had to deal with this "idea" being posted on the forum before and it seems that players, who posted it, genuinely believed that it could be possible and beneficial for the game. So with these things you never know...

[Didzkins 127]

I read your post. They wont listen to this. They dont care. They havent made any updates that would be good for like most of TO players. A lot of players have been conplaining about lame, stupid, bad updates, but did developers do anything? No. They are keeping making the updates which makes players to buy crystals and premium stuffs, because like most of old TO stuffs are away from here. They will never come back. And also tanki is going to that new Tanki X. They havent told anything about accounts transfers from this TO to TX. This is kinda suspescious.

 

And that update, which doesnt allow to change battle settings without PRO pass, took away a lot of players, because buyers will come to battle, somekinda of random battle, will drug as mad and will take all fun from a game. And newbies or seniours loses interest to play this game, because buyers can do anything in everywhere. But buyers dont understand one thing - they lose more than non-buyers. :-) Why? Decide it your self

[Didzkins 127]

Well to be honest, I did get a lot of free upgrades on my Firebird thanks to the new micro-upgrades system. Unfortunately now the upgrades are so expensive that I can't buy any more, but still...

 

Honestly though, if Premium Account players or pay-to-players are going to dominate all the battles like I've seen so far, what's the point in supporting a free-to-play model?

I had to a lot of free MUs, but now MUs are a lot more expinsive. :-) I have left about 6 steps to MUs to max my Digital paint. Those steps costs together over 170k crystals. Is that normal? No, it is sick.

 

And they are you just giving a options to choose - pay-to-play or leave.

 

I am not leaving for now, because I am enough skilled to deal with buyers and druggers, but what about newbies, who starts the game from zero? They will be excused by buyers. It is like in game KingsAge. Now there is useless to join, because there is already OP players, who will take you down in seconds. It will be the same thing in TX, and is already happening in TO.

[i..0R4NG3 745]

and all the players who have never paid anything to tanki but who love to whine a lot...

Look SIR some people out there are about 6 years old and their parents think its a rip off to buy their son/daughter all that payed premium and all that. Also some people cant afford it maybe? So why put "whine" when 74% of tankers cant do all that? -,- I could be more surprised to find out your a "whiner" as well..

[NewbieCake 3,067]

Amm. For me only smoky/twins druggers mean something :D everyone else peh....

 

 

Eh; wait till the drugging Thunders and Vulcan appear.

Edited November 22, 2015 by NewbieCake

[manish17 1,085]

I had to a lot of free MUs, but now MUs are a lot more expinsive. :-) I have left about 6 steps to MUs to max my Digital paint. Those steps costs together over 170k crystals. Is that normal? No, it is sick.

 

I just wanted to upgrade the rail protection of my digital paint. But now i need to upgrade all.  :angry:

[projectkronos 24]

Look SIR some people out there are about 6 years old and their parents think its a rip off to buy their son/daughter all that payed premium and all that. Also some people cant afford it maybe? So why put "whine" when 74% of tankers cant do all that? -,- I could be more surprised to find out your a "whiner" as well..

First of all, the only thing locked behind a paywall is the premium paint, and even that's just meh at higher levels of play.

Second of all, those 74% of tankers who can't or won't buy should be grateful to the 26% who can and do. Because those 26% pay for their free game.

 

Again:

 

For everyone who thinks that buying crystals or premium accounts will be the death of the game, isn't fair, etc, etc, I have a question:

How would YOU do it?

 

What's your plan to earn money while keeping the game 100% balanced? What's your plan to make the game "fair" while ensuring there is still a game to play? If you have a really good idea, speak now and maybe the devs will implement it. Or you can keep whining because some guy who's better than you beat your butt and happened to be premium. I have a feeling most people will choose the second option.

[blacksouleater 190]

If you honestly believe that 26% pay to keep this whole game going, then I don't see how any idea would appeal to you. The fact is that it is now too expensive to micro-upgrade  and who would want to do it all at once anymore? There are real issues such as buyers and non-buyers in the game and if there is complaining when as you put it, "some guy who is better than you beat your butt and happened to be premium" does occur, it is a normal reaction. Frustration because you can't compete when you don't have the most powerful toys is a normal reaction and if your financial situation dictates how you can play, then that frustration will only grow. Everything here has become way too expensive .  Tanki is not becoming pay to play, it IS pay to play now. TankiX will be the same!

Right now it is not a fair or balanced game and if you could come up with what you believe is that "golden" idea, it would not be implemented. Believe what you will. It will never be the same again.  You don't just get beat here anymore, you get obliterated by those with more and it isn't fair. Also, just because people voice their feelings by disagreeing, protesting or, repeatedly stating their displeasure at what is a huge imbalance in this game, does not make them "whiners". Whiners, is a label that people who are short on patience and understanding always seem to throw out there.  This is supposed to be a forum where these types of debates are exchanged. Browbeating is not a form of constructive criticism.

Peace

[limidi 8]

I actually think if your skilled enough, you don't need an amazing turret

[r_Thomasthetank0 0]

Experience rarely has the upper hand against drugging, as the boosts that supplies give are way op and I'd put my money on the drugger to win most times.  I hardly play these days as most games start with me spawning into a game (normally on the losing side as is the case most of the time) only to be instantly one-hit.  One look around in the game and I can see the supply icons above most of the players on the opposite team, so I just leave.  Upgrades are becoming too expensive for me too and nearly all the pro games I've seen lately were parkour.  So here's how I see the game at the moment:  Professional tier that can spend money to buy account for double xp and crystals, upgrades, supplies etc. The rest of us are just their canon fodder.  Not my idea of fun really.  Oh and why can't Tanki devs rent out the in-game billboards to advertise on?  They wouldn't be annoying pop-ups just static ads in the game??  Something to ponder.

 

Thom.

[projectkronos 24]

Professional tier that can spend money to buy account for double xp and crystals, upgrades, supplies etc. The rest of us are just their canon fodder.  Not my idea of fun really. 

*sigh*

Yet another joker who seems to think that buying=instant win. You can use your own drugs, heck sometimes if the drugger is really bad you don't even need em. I just don't understand where the "you're either an unstoppable force or weak as a kitten" thinking comes into play; again, even if you don't drug you're still more than cannon fodder. Buyers can't get anything you can't get yourself.

 Oh and why can't Tanki devs rent out the in-game billboards to advertise on?  They wouldn't be annoying pop-ups just static ads in the game??  Something to ponder.

Because that would look ugly and unprofessional.

[r_Thomasthetank0 0]

Ty for your input projectkronos. 

However, just because we may differ in opinions do you have to start you post with an insult by calling me a joker?  I don't believe I insulted anyone in my post or even said that drugging was wrong, I merely suggested that the balance was in favour of those that do drug and have all the advantages of being able to spend money on the game.  Again, that is my opinion and many people may not agree with it, but I would never insult them for forming and articulating their own ideals.

 

Regards,

 

Thomas

Edited December 1, 2015 by r_Thomasthetank0

[Kosta4934 53]

OK, let me break this down for you...

 

1. This is something that is required to happen every now and then to make the game work. It's very difficult to achieve perfect balance, which is why some turrets always end up being more powerful than others, even though in theory (when balance was calculated) they all seemed equal. I doubt that balance changes are specifically biased to make players buy powerful guns every time.

 

2. This is something that exists is almost all free games and software. Playing Tanki Online for free is like using a trial version of the program, which is given for free, PRO battles are like an expansion pack, that gives you new features, variety and customisation options. Tanki is actually quite generous in that sense because those "extra features" can be bought for a fairly low price of in-game currency by free players, whereas for other programs you almost always have to pay real money to get them.

 

3. Crystal drop boxes have nothing to do with forcing players to buy. They were causing sabotage in battles and their removal helped the game become more interesting, fair and competitive.

 

4. Daily Missions are actually a benefit to players with only one account. With Daily Reawrds, players used to create many accounts and accumulate thousands of supplies by collecting the rewards every day on all accounts, but playing on just one. This resulted in a large number of "druggers", which were a problem for low ranks.

 

5. The paint is the only advantage Premium account gives. And even then, the paint is only 15%, which is rarely better than a normal paint with MUs. It's only a big advantage at low ranks, and not many low ranks will be buying Premium.

 

6. By removing the downvote button players are now forced to explain why they don't like the update in a comment. Leaving a dislike does not help the developers understand what is wrong with a new update.

Wait a minute.. Ok you are saying that problems of Tanki are not buyersO.o? Tanki Game Makers before did very well job..

1. They been speaking with players

2. They deal with problems and tryng to fix them, they are not like nowdays

And you said that Tanki is not forcing enyone to buy crystals? No one say that Tanki is forcing us to buy Premium, but the players that are buying premiums are ruining normal game experience!!!! And isn't Tanki earned a lot of money with Premiums? Isn't it good enough for them and future Tanki?

[Leekh_A.forever 83]

I do not completely agree with you. This is because non-premium users can also over power the premiums. It's about how and when you spend the Crystal. If you are really unhappy then i suggest maybe you should focus on only a combination and buy lots of drug. After that then focus on other combinations. Actually, OP people are not aggravated as they were cause once you have a strong tank, i believe you can be like them, the PROs. Trust me. 

[WookySpolf 63]

Being a player who made this account back in 2011, I would say that experience trumps everything. Sure you get that odd guy who has just bought some OP kit and has a bunch of stuff they shouldn't have at their rank, but if you know how many shots you need to kill someone, how much damage you can take, what your paint does etc. you can play to your strengths and avoid your day being ruined by some buyer. Also saving up crystals so you can always have the best upgrade for your rank is pretty handy.