Is Tanki Becoming Pay-To-Play?

[MandolinMarc 874]

Playing Tanki Online for free is like using a trial version of the program, which is given for free.

This point is a very strong one. It's important to remember that Tanki is not a free game.

[agninvool 0]

SaS is the way forward !

 

The frequency of days between my logins are increasing now a days since the battles are not fun any more. Drugging is creating one-sided battles that once you scout through all available battles, you end up closing the browser. I got 300+ dp earned through rewards , but I hardly uses more than 5 in any battles. But I was amazed to see how some players use health kit every min , especially in Polygon.

 

If you say that it doesn't matter if non-paying players leave, you don't know business. No one will play if they find only a few battles with only half the number of allotted places filled and buyers also will leave the game. So, you provide unfair advantage to buyers, non-buyers will leave and the cascading effect will be that buyers will become non-buyers and eventually leave.

 

Make the game subscription based so that all players contribute. More players you get, the cost of subscription will be less such that one won't mind spending one time meal amount for a month on TO.

 

But I totally disagree with the creator of this post in that TO should make it free at their own expense.

[MonkeyMagic 89]

Yes, also due to the game simply getting old, so players are finding better games and moving on to them. This is why Unity is being developerd - to refresh the project.

I find it very strange that you dont mention the disdain shown to the players by the game devs and the company in general. Perhaps you may have a vested interest?

 

Players have left due to the rise in cost of the game and the constant changes. Be that the many many failed rebalances, introduction of new guns, turrets and paints: that always incur an additional payment uplift. So yes, a self inflicted decreased quality of product at ever inflated prices is why people have voted with their feet. It has nothing at all to do with the old tech or the move to Unity. 

 

Do you really buy into the party line the people in Perm feed you, or are you that deluded by your own reckoning? Yet one more in a long line of faux 'in the know' hired help, toeing the line for his 12 pieces of silver. 

[deadmanrising 715]

I was going to buy 1.5 million crys but seeing as how the game's going i might have to withdraw

[The-Operator219 1,929]

NO, sir, at my rank there are no non-drug battles.

Because there are no non-druggers at my rank. :p

[Maf 32,300]

I find it very strange that you dont mention the disdain shown to the players by the game devs and the company in general. Perhaps you may have a vested interest?

 

Players have left due to the rise in cost of the game and the constant changes. Be that the many many failed rebalances, introduction of new guns, turrets and paints: that always incur an additional payment uplift. So yes, a self inflicted decreased quality of product at ever inflated prices is why people have voted with their feet. It has nothing at all to do with the old tech or the move to Unity. 

Perhaps you're right, but you don't have any evidence to prove that, nor do I have evidence to disprove you, so I think we should just leave it there. I do agree that some players are leaving due to bad updates, but I don't think it's the major factor.

[The-Operator219 1,929]

Nah, the main reason people are leaving is because the game just becomes stale after a while.

Like all things, the game won't be everlasting.

After we reach Generalissimo, we'll just get bored with it.

This game is great, it will always be great, but we can't expect it to last forever.

[r_Dark_Nightmare5 24]

Yes it is becoming pay to play because they are making new updates to get money for example premium accounts now the game will be ruined by the players using special paints and xt items. What about non-buyers now we are left to suffer

Edited October 18, 2015 by r_Dark_Nightmare5

[xZilverxx 188]

Agreed completely with this topic, well done. Tanki Online is deteriorating and everyone knows it, many generalissimos and higher ranked players, including me, are quitting sooner or later.

Edited October 18, 2015 by xZilverxx

[Maf 32,300]

many generalissimos and higher ranked players, including me, are quitting sooner or later.

You just stated the obvious. Of course everyone will leave "sooner or later". You can't keep playing the same game your whole life...  -_-

[blazegirl13 0]

Can I just point something out please?

 

I'm a visual person. When I see something BIG or colorful, I instantly think it's important. When it's small or boring, I question its importance. So when I went to the test server and found that people are trying out the new Premium Accounts, I was a bit shocked at what I saw.

 

Don't you find it weird that almost all of the buttons that players use most (other than things like Garage and Battles) have all been pushed aside in favor of the Premium Accounts and Buy Crystals buttons? Things like Friends, Recruitment (which, just so you know, gets you free crystals), and Settings, even the new Daily Missions (which, need I remind you, reward players with crystals and supplies for doing tasks?) all have teeny weeny buttons, while the BUY CRYSTALS and PREMIUM ACCOUNTS tabs take up like half of the space, are highlighted orange, and scream in your face SPEND MONEY!!. It's like Tanki is saying all those things -- two of which could get you free stuff -- aren't important anymore, and that all you should worry about is spending money.

 

Just thought I'd bring it up, because it's really getting on my nerves. It could be just me, or it could not be. What do y'all think?

Edited October 19, 2015 by blazegirl13

[MacNaughton 4]

In many ways I agree with the original post. I have been playing for more than a year ("off and on" because of frustration). I'm a f2player and I have noticed that skill in other players peaks as I hit ranks where I need to buy M1. But, though I play skillfully I never have enough crystals to upgrade to M1 (even when I buy 1 turret and 1 hull or even just stick with hunter and smokey).

 

Because, of this imbalance I am inclined to agree with the original post that there is indeed a huge draw to put up some cash to continue (which is good business design). But, because of this frustration and inability to continue in any humanely survivable fashion I just make a new account and let the last account I hit the ceiling on rot. ^_^ lol

 

To date I believe I have in the area of 9 tanki accounts and rising. ^_^ lol

 

I like some of the changes, and I'm sure the developers put up with a ton of honest to goodness pure hater whining (God bless 'em). Irregardless of changes though, I have never been able to make it to M1 purely by earning crystals. This leads me to believe that the argument that changes to the game have created the imbalance is a false idea. I think the imbalance has been there for many years. The changes to gameplay have not altered their business plan.

 

Honestly, I've played and enjoyed tanki enough and appreciate their work (and personally realize nothing is free) that one of these days I may pay for crystals just out of guilt for never paying a dime for someone else's work. Granted, how much money they make in "cash cow" central doesn't need to be greedy making more than they need for good lives. But, we also are playing THEIR game. They're entitled to charge whatever and I'm sure employ en economist to keep profits to a max.

 

All in all, I will keep playing for free most likely and keep creating new accounts. I just wish there was a way I could either restart an account from zero experience like a reset OR be able to delete accounts I'll likely never play again (so their system isn't chalk full of all my past accounts. ^_^ lol

 

I'm leaning toward trying buying some crystals at least once, but then again probably wont because I'm never serious enough about a game to go to top levels and compete. As an example. World of Warcraft; I get to the top, I get bored, real life friends don't play, and paying to be mad at a game I'm not good at... lol I'm just not good at the top level of competing in games that are pay to play period. I know that about myself.. so I'll probably never pay to play a game that's free. Again, on WoW I continue on my original account creating and recreating toons and playing for free until level 20. ^_^ lol I love the creative process and tinkering.

 

Anyway, that's my 2 cents. To all you tankers out there - play with honour and respect and you will increase your honour and self respect. And that's the best kind of leveling up there is! Game on!

[lausaj 765]

OK, let me break this down for you...

 

 

1. This is something that is required to happen every now and then to make the game work. It's very difficult to achieve perfect balance, which is why some turrets always end up being more powerful than others, even though in theory (when balance was calculated) they all seemed equal. I doubt that balance changes are specifically biased to make players buy powerful guns every time.

 

2. This is something that exists is almost all free games and software. Playing Tanki Online for free is like using a trial version of the program, which is given for free, PRO battles are like an expansion pack, that gives you new features, variety and customisation options. Tanki is actually quite generous in that sense because those "extra features" can be bought for a fairly low price of in-game currency by free players, whereas for other programs you almost always have to pay real money to get them.

 

3. Crystal drop boxes have nothing to do with forcing players to buy. They were causing sabotage in battles and their removal helped the game become more interesting, fair and competitive.

 

4. Daily Missions are actually a benefit to players with only one account. With Daily Reawrds, players used to create many accounts and accumulate thousands of supplies by collecting the rewards every day on all accounts, but playing on just one. This resulted in a large number of "druggers", which were a problem for low ranks.

 

5. The paint is the only advantage Premium account gives. And even then, the paint is only 15%, which is rarely better than a normal paint with MUs. It's only a big advantage at low ranks, and not many low ranks will be buying Premium.

 

6. By removing the downvote button players are now forced to explain why they don't like the update in a comment. Leaving a dislike does not help the developers understand what is wrong with a new update.

well that was good explanation for some of the answers but I am not convinced by all of your replies. Are tanki really trying to balance the game? If they think so they might have not introduced XT weapons

atleast not permanently in garage. XT weapons are honoured by each tanker in tanki but tanki is giving them for some crystals.

 

I totally disagree with your thoughts about dislike button, can you give me a single topic or anything in tanki which is disliked and not given a single reply comment,It is not necessary that all have different thoughts. Why would anyone want to write the samething again if it is already present,he can support it by giving a like.

 

Tanki forum is not the only place where tankers express their thoughts twitter,fb s are also filled with feedback.Why would the same person would like to write it here again.He can simply use the dislike button instead of it.It just makes it easier to the tankers that they don't like such sort of update.

[K.a.M.a.JI 600]

Can I just point something out please?

 

I'm a visual person. When I see something BIG or colorful, I instantly think it's important. When it's small or boring, I question its importance. So when I went to the test server and found that people are trying out the new Premium Accounts, I was a bit shocked at what I saw.

 

Don't you find it weird that almost all of the buttons that players use most (other than things like Garage and Battles) have all been pushed aside in favor of the Premium Accounts and Buy Crystals buttons? Things like Friends, Recruitment (which, just so you know, gets you free crystals), and Settings, even the new Daily Missions (which, need I remind you, reward players with crystals and supplies for doing tasks?) all have teeny weeny buttons, while the BUY CRYSTALS and PREMIUM ACCOUNTS tabs take up like half of the space, are highlighted orange, and scream in your face SPEND MONEY!!. It's like Tanki is saying all those things -- two of which could get you free stuff -- aren't important anymore, and that all you should worry about is spending money.

 

Just thought I'd bring it up, because it's really getting on my nerves. It could be just me, or it could not be. What do y'all think?

if you have a game in your phone or computer, please check where is the buy button and what is it's color ?

[projectkronos 24]

well that was good explanation for some of the answers but I am not convinced by all of your replies. Are tanki really trying to balance the game? If they think so they might have not introduced XT weapons

atleast not permanently in garage. 

 

XT weapons are cosmetic. No balance problems there.

[Maf 32,300]

[gauravrajput111 2]

yes i think that it is now becoming a game in which those who pay are in advantage.it is take the game ecomony up but will results in a disadvantage to us.if premium accounts are made then the daily mission rewards which was reduced to 50% should become as it was earlier.

[lausaj 765]

XT weapons are cosmetic. No balance problems there.

XT s are half microupgraded how do they not effect they game balance.At the rank of brigadier you can get half upgraded thunder which means a lot,A single shot does a lot of damage. So,it ultimately leads to imbalance

[QueenSeraphina 407]

XT s are half microupgraded how do they not effect they game balance.At the rank of brigadier you can get half upgraded thunder which means a lot,A single shot does a lot of damage. So,it ultimately leads to imbalance

What are you talking about? XT have the same stats as a normal weapon.

[freestylefrost 422]

Good you can become a reporter :)

[Maf 32,300]

XT s are half microupgraded how do they not effect they game balance.At the rank of brigadier you can get half upgraded thunder which means a lot,A single shot does a lot of damage. So,it ultimately leads to imbalance

As said above, all 6 current XT items are exactly the same as corresponding M3 guns without micro upgrades.

[lausaj 765]

What are you talking about? XT have the same stats as a normal weapon.

  

As said above, all 6 current XT items are exactly the same as corresponding M3 guns without micro upgrades.

sorry I misunderstood I thought XT s were microupgraded up to half in each parameter, that's why I thought they were overpowered. Sorry for inconvenience guys and thanks

[Lagnadium 54]

Tanki thinks that suddenly giving everyone double crystals when purchasing them will really help us earn crystals. It is so irritating when they do that. Don't they know that anybody with the slightest bit of financial sensibility will definately not bother to spend money on a Browser Game? And besides that, most Tanki players are still under-aged to have their own bank accounts or don't have the permission to use the money their parents gave them on Browser Games. I'm serious, Tanki. Do something about this please. I remember when you make 4x Crystals in battles or something like that. I'm sure that would make everyone, including the people who don't pay for Browser Games, happy.

 

Myself, once spent £3.00 from my phone credit to buy an add-on to a Browser Game. I had it for a while, then I could no longer play that game because I got my computer taken away. In these situations, it is not a good idea to do so.

[KrystenHunt16 128]

Tanki thinks that suddenly giving everyone double crystals when purchasing them will really help us earn crystals. It is so irritating when they do that. Don't they know that anybody with the slightest bit of financial sensibility will definately not bother to spend money on a Browser Game? And besides that, most Tanki players are still under-aged to have their own bank accounts or don't have the permission to use the money their parents gave them on Browser Games. I'm serious, Tanki. Do something about this please. I remember when you make 4x Crystals in battles or something like that. I'm sure that would make everyone, including the people who don't pay for Browser Games, happy.

 

Myself, once spent £3.00 from my phone credit to buy an add-on to a Browser Game. I had it for a while, then I could no longer play that game because I got my computer taken away. In these situations, it is not a good idea to do so.

I've stated this before, but it bears repeating. I work for a living, and spending money on a browser-based video game (especially when they're gonna replace it so quickly) is dumb. However, I still keep getting beat by sellouts, so I really don't know what to do.

 

Like I said, Tanki should either become full-on pay-to-play, or make some adjustments to help free-to-players not get dominated. Supressing free players like they are now is not a good place to be.

[ghost-guns 1,486]

Please limit the number of drugs players can use per battle. The higher I rank the more drugs are used ALL THE TIME and it's impossible to win without drugging. So many times I unload a full round of fire M2 on a tank only for it to use a health pack. AND there are drugging thunder M3s and Rails everywhere.