Is Tanki Becoming Pay-To-Play?

[viratno2 146]

For everyone who thinks that buying crystals or premium accounts will be the death of the game, isn't fair, etc, etc, I have a question:

How would YOU do it?

 

What's your plan to earn money while keeping the game 100% balanced? What's your plan to make the game "fair" while ensuring there is still a game to play? If you have a really good idea, speak now and maybe the devs will implement it. Or you can keep whining because some guy who's better than you beat your butt and happened to be premium. I have a feeling most people will choose the second option.

Look now, the premium idea is good, only give back the SMPs, and eliminate premium. Buying crystals should be cheaper, and decorative items for buyers with some amount of protection should be there. FYI, people will understand this post as offensive, and kindly refrain yourself from using such language again. :) . For your protection.

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

Requests to bring back SMP are puzzling. Additional experience without additional crystals is a clever way to force you donate later in the game, when you will face consequences. It is only fair that additional experience is now given only with additional crystals via PA. I do understand that there are people who does know how to use SMP properly but most of the time players are just hurt their own game.

 

Now you ask to bring it back. This is just inhuman.

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

Requests to bring back SMP are puzzling. Additional experience without additional crystals is a clever way to force you donate later in the game, when you will face consequences. It is only fair that additional experience is now given only with additional crystals via PA. I do understand that there are people who does know how to use SMP properly but most of the time players are just hurt their own game.

 

Now you ask to bring it back. This is just inhuman.

Yes, you have some point in that, partly...

 

But removing SMP is an experiment as it was first mentioned, or they are removed forever?

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

But removing SMP is an experiment as it was first mentioned, or they are removed forever?

SMP might be back, but I will only allow it to be back under PA requirement. SMP for crystals is a bad idea.

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

SMP might be back, but I will only allow it to be back under PA requirement. SMP for crystals is a bad idea.

So no more buying SMP, I get it

[Maf 32,300]

So no more buying SMP, I get it

Why would any non-generalissimo would even want to buy it?

 

Even if you buy it to earn a new rank in time for a sale, in the end you will still end up wasting more crystals on buying the SMP and having decreased Crystals/XP ratio for a month, than you will save from the sale itself.

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

Why would any non-generalissimo would even want to buy it?

 

Even if you buy it to earn enough experience in time for a sale, in the end you will still end up wasting more crystals on buying the SMP and having decreased Crystals/XP ratio for a month, than you will save from the sale itself.

Gold 30% Multiplier Pass - 2500 crystals

Gold 50% Multiplier Pass - 5000 crystals

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Every player at rank higher that Captain can earn that 2500 or 5000 in extra more battles or daily missions and to have SMP for a month

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I will continue to think that Premium players have more benefits just because they are paying, and that is my final opinion on this matter.

 

But now when we have the final answer about SMP, I think that further discussion is pointless. Also some Topics where is discussion about something what is past are pointless.

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

Just to add why I will continue thinking that Premium players have more benefits

 

For example, Premium player at rank of will rank up more quickly at rank , in contrast to the non Premium . Just because he took out a credit card and gave the money

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I will not go into that story that everything in Tanki is about money, because I'm not one of those people. But in this matter, the words money and advantage goes hand in hand.

I respected your opinion even earlier, so I hope you will respect my right that I have my own opinion.

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

I will continue to think that Premium players have more benefits just because they are paying, and that is my final opinion on this matter.

...but this is exactly how it should work o_O

Benefits are given because they are paying. If they wouldn't pay we wouldn't give any benefits. This is the whole point behind PA system.

 

For example, Premium player at rank of will rank up more quickly at rank , in contrast to the non Premium . Just because he took out a credit card and gave the money

Yes it does. And in contrast to some other games out there, this is the only benefit they get. This is about time vs money. They don't get unique overpowered items, they can't use better weapons or supplies, they just level up faster to top equipment. The Premium Paint is considered as pay2win, but we will cut out protection from the paint as soon as paints and protection will be divided for every other paint in the game.

 

So what is your point? We should give paying users nothing? Not power, I mean nothing at all?

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

So what is your point?

 

Same as yours - Pay to Win

 

 

We should give paying users nothing?

 

I did not say that.

 

First Premium players got special paint, unlocked XT equipment, 50 % more crystals from battles. And yes they paid for it, so it is logical that they get something special if they pay for it.

 

Later, you raised 50% more crystals from battles to 100% and now quicker rank up becouse you removed SMP for non buyers

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Summa summarum. Premium players got everything and non Premium lost what they had before - SMP

[Maf 32,300]

This is about time vs money. 

Exactly! I keep repeating this over and over...  In a lot of cases (real life or online) the whole point of paying is to save time and effort. You pay money - you work less, you don't pay with money - you are forced to wait and spend longer on doing things you may not enjoy as much (e.g. grinding for equipment).

 

 

 paints and protection will be divided for every other paint in the game.

Planned for TO, TankiX or both? Or secret?  :ph34r:

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

Quicker rank up does not make you win. But ok, I see your point, final opinion that is.

[Opex-Rah 5,375]

Planned for TO, TankiX or both? Or secret?  :ph34r:

TO. We hope to get it done till Christmas. No exact dates though.

[Phoenix.Raised 5,992]

But ok, I see your point, final opinion that is.

I am glad that we understand each other.

[Buggati_The_Best 1,233]

TO. We hope to get it done till Christmas. No exact dates though.

So i got generalismo account...

When Tanki X come,i have to start over or all players are getting the long but lost promission of transfering our account data to Tanki X?

[Maf 32,300]

When Tanki X come,i have to start over or all players are getting the long but lost promission of transfering our account data to Tanki X?

My question was about separating paints and protections from turrets, not transfer of accounts...

 

There is still no definite answer about transfer of accounts.

[Buggati_The_Best 1,233]

I care just about that question and i consider to be the most important question .-.

And i want Hazel to answer it with yes or no(maybe if over 50% yes)

[SpeedyRailgun 183]

this game is now all about drugging it has no skills anymore its not worth upgrading your tank a drugger beats you every time remove the drugs now or limit them to only one working at a time so you cant use them all together it is becoming unplayable drugged tanks are unbeatable its stupid

Amm. For me only smoky/twins druggers mean something :D everyone else peh....

 

Someone was there? wops! sorry! didnt saw u blowing up!

 

 

Actualy, drugs dont mean anything if you think for real.... Skills can beat drugs and i know that hight ranks ALWAYS drug even if you are playing m0 wasp+m0railgun against m3 railgun+m3 hornet :D i was with 1 of my accounts playing against generalissimos..... all of them are druggers! in every single map there is druggers...

 

 

Someone said MU doesnt mean anything.... BUT i disagree with them. I own enought good wasp to survive 2 railgun shots and only in 3rd i got killed. Even drugger cannot beat me in this situation  so....

Twins with DoubleDamage are realy op.

Ricoshet can blow wasp m1 with 3 ba-ba-ballz

smoky can blow up wasp m1 with 1 shot!

[SpeedyRailgun 183]

My question was about separating paints and protections from turrets, not transfer of accounts...

 

There is still no definite answer about transfer of accounts.

Actualy... I wont and want account transfer :D

I want account transfer otherwise low ranks have to play against generalissimos and generalissimos have better strategics so they will climb up ranks faster and my rail m1+wasp m1 (already good MU) will be gone

 

I wont transfer because it wont be funny anymore and you wont be able to explore everything... like generalissimos wont ever see how looks wasp m1 in tankiX

[Maf 32,300]

I care just about that question and i consider to be the most important question .-.

And i want Hazel to answer it with yes or no(maybe if over 50% yes)

He won't answer it without being 100% sure. If he says now that there will be a transfer and there actually won't be a transfer, a lot of people will complain and it will be a mess.

[projectkronos 24]

Look now, the premium idea is good, only give back the SMPs, and eliminate premium.

It's a good idea that should be eliminated??? I'm not following you.

Buying crystals should be cheaper, and decorative items for buyers with some amount of protection should be there.

So... in order to fix "pay2win" we should give buyers more power...

 

FYI, people will understand this post as offensive, and kindly refrain yourself from using such language again. :) . For your protection.

Are you threatening me? Because it sounds like you're threatening me.

[viduranga-x 305]

i don't care its pay or not
i don't care world flat or not
i don't care i will ban or not
i don't care this is tanki or WoT

dadda dadaa daddaa... :S

Edited November 12, 2015 by viduranga-x

[Helindu_2014 830]

Maybe T.O. can have ads on the Tanki billboards in maps?

So they will earn money and give us more easy gameplay?

[MusicJam19 737]

Maybe T.O. can have ads on the Tanki billboards in maps?

So they will earn money and give us more easy gameplay?

I am sure that this has been suggested before, but probably won't happen seeing that they don't even have ads on their site

[Maf 32,300]

Yeah, ads in a game always make the game look unprofessional and less attractive. The ads would make the game look so ugly, that I think it will actually be counterproductive as new players (potential buyers) will be repelled.